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lassipulkkinen *1.21.2 2024-11-20 23:48:15 lassipulkkinen *the latter 2024-11-20 23:56:01 lassipulkkinen (the new teleport_entity seems to be used to make relative adjustments to vehicle positions; the difference is that it doesn't change the reference point for future delta moves.) 2024-11-20 23:56:40 lassipulkkinen kind of a bad name for it anyway, don't know what they were thinking. honestly just calling that entity_position_sync wouldn've been better. 2024-11-20 23:56:49 lassipulkkinen *would've 2024-11-21 00:12:47 --> Dral (~Dral@83-87-174-171.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-21 00:59:33 lassipulkkinen i went with the option of calling entity_position_sync "Teleport Entity" and giving the new teleport_entity a better name, for now. 2024-11-21 01:46:00 <-- Dral (~Dral@83-87-174-171.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2024-11-21 04:24:22 --> PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-21 05:56:07 <-- PixDeVl 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joined #mcdevs 2024-11-23 14:22:39 <-- Dral (~Dral@83-87-174-171.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2024-11-23 14:29:17 --> Dral (~Dral@83-87-174-171.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-23 14:32:48 Grooble Hi lassipulkkinen, I saw you are working on 1.21.3 protocol specification and I would like to know if you have already started to look into the UpdateRecipesPacket? 2024-11-23 15:19:13 <-- mxtms (~mxtms@user/mxtms) has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2024-11-23 16:22:49 <-- balrog (znc@user/balrog) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2024-11-23 16:23:04 --> balrog_ (znc@user/balrog) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-23 17:33:24 lassipulkkinen Grooble: i'm at my parents and don't have a decompilation at hand atm, but i think i initially figured there were no changes to that when looking at diffs in net.minecraft.network.protocol.game. It's very possible there were changes to codecs defined in other files though, i looked at those already but ignored the recipe stuff since i thought those were all related to the recipe book add/remove 2024-11-23 17:33:26 lassipulkkinen packets etc. i'll look into it soon. 2024-11-23 18:35:44 Grooble From what I have seen it changed quite a lot, the especially the SlotDisplay type that I didn't sucess to fully replicate 2024-11-23 18:39:05 Grooble here is my attempt to implement it in node-minecraft-protocol https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/pull/936/commits/6218c8bd82de22e840662c4e2b9ef830290cbcbf#diff-e58935fba270cafe5bcec308e7eb75c639ed79f6ddf65aa3a08b2eba7815e1b1 2024-11-23 19:10:26 lassipulkkinen got a decompilation in termux now, indeed looks like it changed a lot. i guess i just missed it. 2024-11-23 19:30:56 lassipulkkinen though it doesn't look like RecipeDisplay is used anywhere in update_recipes, only in place_glost_recipe and recipe_book_add (the latter of which i appear to have screwed up; will fix soon.) 2024-11-23 20:21:45 <-- chibill (~chibill@c-67-175-64-113.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2024-11-23 20:31:10 --> chibill (~chibill@c-67-175-64-113.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-23 21:03:18 <-- Dral (~Dral@83-87-174-171.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2024-11-23 21:29:31 --> Dral (~Dral@217-123-34-54.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-23 21:46:10 --> Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-23 22:15:25 Tides I just updated to 1.21.3 and am now getting an exception that says "Unbound tags in registry ResourceKey[minecraft:root / minecraft:worldgen/biome]: [minecraft:is_badlands, minecraft:is_jungle, minecraft:is_savanna]" any idea what this means? 2024-11-23 22:17:15 lassipulkkinen I guess you need to include those keys in the registry entries you send. I would just use the known packs feature to get away without sending the data. 2024-11-23 22:20:58 Tides What's weird is that I do send those keys at least I'm pretty sure I do 2024-11-23 22:21:30 lassipulkkinen oh wait i misread, it's talking about tags 2024-11-23 22:21:44 lassipulkkinen but anyway, i didn't encounter that, i don't know 2024-11-23 22:21:59 lassipulkkinen i just don't send any tags, maybe that's why 2024-11-23 22:23:02 lassipulkkinen i know there are some bugs with tags from pervious sessions affecting future ones, i.e. i'm normally unable to swim in water on my server, but after playing on a vanilla server i can. 2024-11-23 22:24:15 Tides I thought about not sending tags as well and it still throws I'm assuming it has something to do wtih registry data and not tags but am unsure cause the exception is very not helpful 2024-11-23 22:24:53 lassipulkkinen did you try restarting the client (because of the stuff i just mentioned) 2024-11-23 22:25:55 Tides I'll try I am on an mcp client so I can debug easier so idk how much it'll help 2024-11-23 22:27:13 Tides Yeah still same problem 2024-11-23 22:28:55 lassipulkkinen do you send minecraft:core with version 1.21.3 in knwon packs? 2024-11-23 22:30:08 lassipulkkinen if you send the wrong version without sending any data the error is different, but maybe if you do send the data there are other problems that come up. 2024-11-23 22:30:39 Tides I'll give that a try is it mandatory to send that now?? 2024-11-23 22:31:40 lassipulkkinen i don't think so, but it's possible that it also adds some requirements for tags that i don't know about. 2024-11-23 22:32:14 lassipulkkinen aupposedly it's only required if you want to omit the registry data. 2024-11-23 22:32:18 lassipulkkinen *supposedly 2024-11-23 22:33:57 lassipulkkinen also the only biomes i send ids for are plains and forest. i just added stuff into the registry data packets until it worked. 2024-11-23 22:35:23 lassipulkkinen it's also possible it (perhaps unintentionally) handles tags differently if the data is sent vs not sent. 2024-11-23 22:35:42 lassipulkkinen so you could try omitting data for the biomes too. 2024-11-23 22:36:25 Tides Its so odd cause it doesn't happen in 1.21.1 2024-11-23 22:37:22 Tides If I omit biomes from the data it turns into "[minecraft:forest, minecraft:grove, minecraft:old_growth_pine_taiga, minecraft:old_growth_spruce_taiga, minecraft:snowy_taiga, minecraft:taiga]" 2024-11-23 22:37:54 Tides I went to check the assets I auto gen to see if I was missing those biomes but I am not 2024-11-23 22:38:19 lassipulkkinen those don't look like tags anymore, what's the full error message? 2024-11-23 22:38:32 Tides Unbound values in registry ResourceKey[minecraft:root / minecraft:worldgen/biome]: [minecraft:forest, minecraft:grove, minecraft:old_growth_pine_taiga, minecraft:old_growth_spruce_taiga, minecraft:snowy_taiga, minecraft:taiga] 2024-11-23 22:39:00 Tides Sanme exception message 2024-11-23 22:39:56 lassipulkkinen it's not the same. "unbound values" vs "unbound tags" 2024-11-23 22:40:49 Tides Oh yeah 2024-11-23 22:40:53 Tides Hm 2024-11-23 22:41:01 Tides Sec 2024-11-23 22:41:45 Tides I do exclude all the worldgen tags 2024-11-23 22:41:49 lassipulkkinen kinda weird though, i definitely get away with only plains and forest. 2024-11-23 22:42:33 lassipulkkinen wait, you are still sending some tags (for other things)? 2024-11-23 22:42:43 Tides Yeah everything BUT the worldgen tags 2024-11-23 22:42:57 lassipulkkinen if you omit them all? 2024-11-23 22:43:17 lassipulkkinen and then restart the client to be safe 2024-11-23 22:43:35 Tides Unbound tags in registry ResourceKey[minecraft:root / minecraft:worldgen/biome]: [minecraft:is_badlands, minecraft:is_jungle, minecraft:is_savanna] the first message 2024-11-23 22:43:39 Tides If I omit all tags 2024-11-23 22:43:46 lassipulkkinen weird 2024-11-23 22:44:43 Tides Yeah that's why I confused 2024-11-23 22:44:51 Tides It wasn't enforced in 1.21.1 2024-11-23 22:45:11 Tides I am gonna try sending known packs so give me a sec 2024-11-23 22:46:06 lassipulkkinen i put my dummy registry sending code on pastebin for reference: https://pastebin.com/hFeTEBBE 2024-11-23 23:02:36 Tides Yeah I' practically did all that made sure to not send the extra codec data and its still giving me that exceptyion 2024-11-23 23:03:06 Tides Not sending tags and the registry data just gets the the entry name & no data 2024-11-23 23:10:24 lassipulkkinen you said you're using a modded client, so just in case, what if you use the vanilla jar directly? 2024-11-23 23:11:19 Tides Unbound values in registry ResourceKey[minecraft:root / minecraft:worldgen/biome]: [minecraft:grove, minecraft:old_growth_pine_taiga, minecraft:old_growth_spruce_taiga, minecraft:snowy_taiga, minecraft:taiga] 2024-11-23 23:11:39 Tides Same thing basically 2024-11-23 23:12:01 Tides Its different there cause I'm only adding plains and forest biome 2024-11-23 23:12:21 Tides But If I add them all it goes to unbound tags 2024-11-23 23:12:31 lassipulkkinen and you're not sending any references to those biomes anywhere? 2024-11-23 23:12:46 Tides Nope 2024-11-23 23:12:54 Tides Not even sending tags 2024-11-23 23:12:56 Tides Unless.... 2024-11-23 23:12:58 Tides Actually 2024-11-23 23:15:29 Tides Yeah no not referencing anywher 2024-11-23 23:17:38 lassipulkkinen looking at the code... unbound values is thrown in MappedRegistry.freeze 2024-11-23 23:18:26 Tides Yeah L:308 2024-11-23 23:19:52 lassipulkkinen well it's line 287 for me, i prob have a different decompilation. 2024-11-23 23:20:29 lassipulkkinen and yes, i'm also using an unmodified cluent har for testing 2024-11-23 23:20:37 Tides Oh I was looking at the unbound tags part 2024-11-23 23:20:54 Tides Since its the one I'm getting 2024-11-23 23:21:56 lassipulkkinen i'm still wondering about the unbound values; it's weird just sending the two biomes works for me. 2024-11-23 23:22:16 Tides Yeah... 2024-11-23 23:23:35 Tides I finally fixed it so it sends the worldgen tags as well and now I get this java.lang.IllegalStateException: Missing registry: ResourceKey[minecraft:root / minecraft:worldgen] 2024-11-23 23:24:32 lassipulkkinen weird.. that's not even the name of a registry..? 2024-11-23 23:25:25 lassipulkkinen or do you send the tags as "minecraft:worldgen" instead of "minecraft:worldgen/biome" by any chance? 2024-11-23 23:25:56 Tides Yeah I'm fixing that currently LOL 2024-11-23 23:26:00 Tides I never sent worldgen tags before 2024-11-23 23:26:09 Tides It was always excluded when I sent tags 2024-11-23 23:26:27 Tides worldgen/biome tags 2024-11-23 23:27:34 lassipulkkinen the "worldgen" in the registry name is i guess kind of a historical accident. the client obviously doesn't care about worldgen. 2024-11-23 23:33:53 lassipulkkinen did you try actually sending only the registry entries that i did? wondering since it could maybe be caused by some registry data known to the client having references to thosr biomes. so if you mention their ids then maybe it leads to that error. 2024-11-23 23:34:41 lassipulkkinen (still talking about the unbound values one, though might be related to the tags too) 2024-11-23 23:37:06 Tides Yeah 2024-11-23 23:37:12 Tides If I only include forest and plains 2024-11-23 23:37:14 Tides It says Unbound values in registry ResourceKey[minecraft:root / minecraft:worldgen/biome]: [minecraft:grove, minecraft:old_growth_pine_taiga, minecraft:old_growth_spruce_taiga, minecraft:snowy_taiga, minecraft:taiga] 2024-11-23 23:37:56 lassipulkkinen for instance, it seems the wolf variant minecraft:black references old_growth_pine_taiga, so if you send that (i didn't) that might cause it to look for the biome. 2024-11-23 23:38:19 Tides Oh wait I forgot bout the other codecs 2024-11-23 23:38:23 Tides Sec let me strip them down 2024-11-23 23:40:06 Tides Okay it seems like it was the wolf variant codec 2024-11-23 23:40:25 Tides I just did worlfvariant.woods like you and it gave me a different error (that I can fix) 2024-11-23 23:41:16 lassipulkkinen yeah and i did a search for is_badlands in the vanilla datapack, that's referenced by minecraft:striped 2024-11-23 23:41:21 Tides Yeah 2024-11-23 23:41:24 Tides I was just about to say that 2024-11-23 23:41:25 Tides "biomes": "#minecraft:is_badlands", 2024-11-23 23:42:07 Tides I'm still confused cause 2024-11-23 23:42:27 Tides Last I checked that hasn;t changed since wolf variants were introduced 2024-11-23 23:42:58 Tides And I never included worldgen/biome tags but I was always allowed to connect pre 1.21.3 2024-11-23 23:43:00 lassipulkkinen i would've expected errors relating to something not being found in a registry to appear in a related place in the call stack, but i guess it creates placeholders as it goes and then checks that all of them got filled in at the end. 2024-11-23 23:44:40 lassipulkkinen that is kind of weird. but maybe they just changed something about how unknown tags are handled. 2024-11-23 23:48:23 Tides Mhmm seems like it 2024-11-23 23:48:46 Tides A bit of a pain if I wanna send all the registry data so I guess I'll spend time fixing the way tags generate 2024-11-23 23:51:13 lassipulkkinen yeah, if you want to send all the vanilla registry entries, it's probably best to send all the tags too. 2024-11-23 23:52:31 Tides Thanks for helping me narrow it down ^ ^ 2024-11-24 00:39:42 <-- Dral (~Dral@217-123-34-54.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2024-11-24 00:58:10 Grooble if the client and server share the same minecraft:core version the client still expects that the server send every registry with every key but with empty values from what I have seen 2024-11-24 00:59:50 lassipulkkinen yes; it still needs to know the ids. 2024-11-24 02:26:48 <-- Grooble (~Grooble@2a01:e0a:b0:8a70:8a77:f496:86a2:198f) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2024-11-24 07:54:30 --> xii69 (~xii69@static.150.142.107.91.clients.your-server.de) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-24 07:54:34 xii69 hey 2024-11-24 07:54:59 xii69 Anyone knows how I can change the name of an ArmorStand using Packets? 2024-11-24 08:03:36 --> `xii69 (~xii69@151.240.67.144) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-24 08:03:48 <-- xii69 (~xii69@static.150.142.107.91.clients.your-server.de) has quit (Quit: Connection closed) 2024-11-24 08:04:54 lassipulkkinen have a look at https://wiki.vg/Entity_metadata#Entity. 2024-11-24 08:05:03 `xii69 thank you 2024-11-24 08:05:57 lassipulkkinen (you use the entity metadata packet to set them) 2024-11-24 08:06:42 `xii69 I'm new to this packet stuff, for now I'm trying to spawn a Hologram (Invisible ArmorStand with a Name) in front of Player 2024-11-24 08:07:14 `xii69 and i have no idea what is this chat system, how it is still alive and has active people in it 2024-11-24 08:08:54 lassipulkkinen i think i'm probably the most active person here atm, but there are some others too. the discord is probably more active now, has more people in it at least (based on the invite page). 2024-11-24 08:12:45 lassipulkkinen are you making your own server from scratch or modding mojang's code? asking since if you're modding there are normally more robust ways of doing things than sending packets dierctly. 2024-11-24 08:13:37 `xii69 i'm making a plugin for my own server, sending packets in this plugin to the player cause i don't wanna spawn real armorstands 2024-11-24 08:14:11 lassipulkkinen so it's a bukkit derivative plugin? 2024-11-24 08:14:29 `xii69 yes 2024-11-24 08:14:40 `xii69 for now i'm trying to spawn, move and rename an armorstands which the first 2 parts are done 2024-11-24 08:14:51 `xii69 trying to figure out how can i change the name of an armorstand 2024-11-24 08:16:39 lassipulkkinen i don't really have experience in that area; for all i know this kind of hackery might be common there. but i will say that it sounds like asking for a lot of trouble. you'll need to ensure that whwn players come into view distance of the armor stands, leave or enter the game etc, they get the coreect data, you need to not conflict with real entity ids, etc. 2024-11-24 08:17:12 lassipulkkinen so if there's any way to just have a real entity, i'd absolutely go witht hat. 2024-11-24 08:17:21 lassipulkkinen *with that 2024-11-24 08:17:46 `xii69 the main thing is other players shouldn't see this armor stand, that's why i choose this way 2024-11-24 08:18:03 `xii69 each player has its own armor stand to follow 2024-11-24 08:18:04 lassipulkkinen ah so it's player specific 2024-11-24 08:18:12 lassipulkkinen yeah that changes things 2024-11-24 08:18:34 `xii69 to be more clear i'm trying to create a GPS system, spawning a text which player follows until reaches the location 2024-11-24 08:19:01 lassipulkkinen though there could still be a way to have a real entity be only sent to some players. the compromise isn't as clear anymore though. 2024-11-24 08:19:41 `xii69 the only way i found was packets 2024-11-24 08:22:17 lassipulkkinen yeah you'd probably need to mod the entity tracker. so what you're doing is probably sensible. 2024-11-24 08:25:54 `xii69 uploading is possible in here? 2024-11-24 08:26:01 `xii69 or its just Text 2024-11-24 08:26:40 lassipulkkinen it's just text, and if you want to send a lot of it put it on pastebin or something. 2024-11-24 08:28:39 lassipulkkinen got to go now, hope you figure it out. 2024-11-24 08:30:06 `xii69 bye, thanks for ur help 2024-11-24 09:03:29 --> TkTech7 (~TkTech@modemcable198.106-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-24 09:04:39 <-- TkTech (~TkTech@modemcable198.106-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2024-11-24 09:04:39 -- TkTech7 is now known as TkTech 2024-11-24 09:21:54 <-- Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2024-11-24 11:30:46 --> Grooble (~Grooble@2a01:e0a:b0:8a70:79c8:cd91:4bde:fbf5) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-24 13:14:17 --> Dral (~Dral@217-123-19-119.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-24 13:18:58 <-- 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I think you forgot the stoneCutterRecipes field in the UpdateRecipes packet 2024-11-25 09:38:57 lassipulkkinen oh right 2024-11-25 09:39:35 lassipulkkinen always easy to forget later fields when you spend a lot of time looking at earlier ones 2024-11-25 09:42:36 Grooble yeah ^^ 2024-11-25 09:43:08 Grooble Also shouldn't Group ID in RecipeBookAdd be optional? 2024-11-25 09:45:44 lassipulkkinen it's OPTIONAL_VAR_INT, so the same thing as Optinal VarInt in entity metadata 2024-11-25 09:45:56 lassipulkkinen but yes it should be documented. 2024-11-25 09:46:50 lassipulkkinen (so it's not bool-prefixed but value + 1, 0 for none) 2024-11-25 10:10:58 <-- Grooble (~Grooble@193.51.159.250) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-11-25 11:51:53 <-- DigitalDragon9 (~digital@user/DigitalDragon) has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 2024-11-25 11:53:44 --> DigitalDragon9 (~digital@user/DigitalDragon) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-25 12:02:05 <-- Almtesh 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https://github.com/TkTech/wiki.vg/actions/runs/12072163562/job/33665514870 2024-11-28 15:56:59 --> magmaus3 (~magmaus3@user/magmaus3) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-28 15:57:23 botifico [wiki.vg] Check Run for deploy completed: Success. https://github.com/TkTech/wiki.vg/actions/runs/12072163562/job/33665514870 2024-11-28 15:57:30 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-fcfa-2ebe-d762-6793.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-28 16:17:54 lassipulkkinen oh well, was hoping to get 1.21.3 merged before the migration. or maybe it's a temporary thing? 2024-11-28 16:19:45 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-fcfa-2ebe-d762-6793.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2024-11-28 17:30:44 <-- botifico (~botifico@montreal.tkte.ch) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2024-11-28 20:23:04 --> Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-28 20:28:48 <-- simon816 (~simon816@secondary.machine.simon816.com) has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in) 2024-11-28 20:30:39 --> 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Individual chunks just used to not show up back around 1.0 and in beta, but that eventually stopped happening. But Minecraft's always used TCP so it's not like they were caused by dropped packets, so it feels like there must have been a game logic bug or something that was fixed 2024-11-28 21:26:35 lassipulkkinen i've assumed that was because of bad occlusion culling; there are bug many bug reports about that at least, some actually unresolved. 2024-11-28 21:26:50 lassipulkkinen though maybe that's too early for it to have been implemented 2024-11-28 21:27:42 lassipulkkinen i know at least from recent testing the culling still does weird things when the loaded chunk area isn't convex 2024-11-28 21:28:22 lassipulkkinen *many bug reports 2024-11-28 21:31:52 lassipulkkinen also some of it was definitely actual save corruption 2024-11-28 21:35:14 pokechu22 Those were definitely things, but there also was a case where a chunk just wouldn't be sent to clients, but would exist after relogging 2024-11-28 21:41:21 pokechu22 e.g. https://youtu.be/-7HJ39ac4jw?t=1445 I guess 2024-11-28 21:46:35 lassipulkkinen took me a while to notice the corresponding gap in the lava, but yeah. there's also another one in the background. 2024-11-28 21:48:19 <-- Grooble (~Grooble@2a01:e0a:b0:8a70:d10b:4385:23f9:180e) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2024-11-28 21:52:34 pokechu22 I think there are aspects of it that relate to the quality of the connection (it seems like most of the hits on https://etho.fyi/?q=chunk+error are on that Vinyl Fantasy series) but I know that it did happen in a few other ones 2024-11-28 22:08:37 pokechu22 https://youtu.be/QiZDLpe9kTQ?t=1534 is another example 2024-11-28 22:32:55 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-fcfa-2ebe-d762-6793.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-28 23:15:54 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-fcfa-2ebe-d762-6793.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2024-11-28 23:45:21 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-fcfa-2ebe-d762-6793.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 00:01:18 --> IzMichael (~Thunderbi@2405:da40:1178:a300:286e:e1fa:51a7:2be6) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 00:48:21 <-- IzMichael (~Thunderbi@2405:da40:1178:a300:286e:e1fa:51a7:2be6) has quit (Quit: IzMichael) 2024-11-29 01:11:13 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-fcfa-2ebe-d762-6793.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2024-11-29 01:25:49 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-fcfa-2ebe-d762-6793.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 01:57:11 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-fcfa-2ebe-d762-6793.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2024-11-29 02:07:24 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 02:12:28 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2024-11-29 02:45:47 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 03:02:06 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2024-11-29 03:07:30 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 03:11:59 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2024-11-29 03:27:42 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 08:05:55 <-- Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2024-11-29 09:13:29 --> stewi (~stewi@180.150.80.63) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 09:16:54 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2024-11-29 10:29:07 --> PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 10:35:07 <-- PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-11-29 11:30:54 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 11:49:06 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2024-11-29 12:15:50 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 12:26:04 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-8198-a637-ba47-8902.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2024-11-29 16:43:07 <-- MisterVector (Vector@47.145.160.227) has quit 2024-11-29 16:43:55 --> MisterVector (Vector@47.145.160.227) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-29 18:04:10 snep Saw a post that wiki.vg is shutting down tomorrow, is it true? 2024-11-29 19:17:17 pokechu22 snep: Not 100% sure about tomorrow, but yeah, it is shutting down (and currently is read-only). 2024-11-29 20:02:14 <-- stewi (~stewi@180.150.80.63) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2024-11-29 20:55:36 lassipulkkinen apparently it's up on minecraft wiki already 2024-11-29 22:07:02 bswartz Does anyone have a mirror of the wiki.vg website? 2024-11-29 22:12:43 pokechu22 There'll be a mirror on web.archive.org via archivebot (there's one at https://web.archive.org/web/20241113021013/https://wiki.vg/Main_Page and also a second one started after the site went read-only, but that hasn't fully ingested into web.archive.org yet). There's also dumps at https://archive.org/search?query=originalurl%3A%28%2Awiki.vg%2A%29 (I think TkTech was planning on uploading one for the 2024-11-29 22:12:45 pokechu22 final database now that it's read-only, but there's also one from a week ago) 2024-11-29 22:13:32 TkTech Archive.org is having trouble at the moment but yes it'll be up there eventually 2024-11-29 22:13:59 TkTech There's a full dump in the minecraft wiki discord as of the time it was made read-only 2024-11-29 22:15:33 bswartz Where's that discord? I'm not a member 2024-11-29 22:15:57 pokechu22 https://discord.gg/fGdE5ZE is listed on the homepage of minecraft.wiki so it's probably that? 2024-11-29 22:16:52 bswartz Thx pokechu22 2024-11-30 02:18:19 --> mbax (~mbax@user/mbaxter) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-30 03:20:29 --> Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-30 09:01:25 <-- Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2024-11-30 16:42:37 <-- sudden (~cat@user/sudden) has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2024-11-30 16:43:41 --> sudden (~cat@user/sudden) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-30 22:29:07 --> Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has joined #mcdevs 2024-11-30 23:46:50 rom15041 sad wiki.vg is going down, let's hope that doesn't affect the mc dev community 2024-11-30 23:46:59 rom15041 thanks for hosting it for that long TkTech 2024-11-30 23:47:25 rom15041 somehow minecraft is still as relevant as it was 10 years ago 2024-11-30 23:47:50 rom15041 lot of work is being done in the AI community on agents and world models; using minecraft as a test bed 2024-11-30 23:48:06 rom15041 https://oasis.decart.ai/starting-point is a recent example 2024-11-30 23:49:32 rom15041 I think minecraft will probably stay relevant for another 5 years. After which it'll have been completely solved and we'll have engines able to generate variants of this kind of game easily 2024-11-30 23:49:39 rom15041 still a long time to go 2024-11-30 23:54:10 TkTech The 'official' minecraft wiki so far has been receptive to feedback and has most of the content integrated, and are respecting the license difference 2024-11-30 23:54:24 TkTech Quite optimistic! :) 2024-11-30 23:55:43 rom15041 great 2024-11-30 23:56:23 -- You are now known as rom1504 2024-12-01 05:29:03 lassipulkkinen rom15041: still a long way ahead of ourselves to solve the great problem of our times, maximally effcient minecraft slop generation. 2024-12-01 05:29:29 lassipulkkinen but i'm sure capitalism will make it a top peiority, so you well might be correct. 2024-12-01 05:29:42 lassipulkkinen *priority 2024-12-01 09:23:40 <-- Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2024-12-01 16:14:38 <-- sudden (~cat@user/sudden) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 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(~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-4999-a2ae-cf94-23b9.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2024-12-03 03:36:41 --> Dral (~Dral@77-171-221-82.fixed.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-03 06:03:31 --> halloy1339 (~halloy133@ool-18b9ca6d.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-03 06:03:46 halloy1339 is client_tick_end a new packet to 1.21.3? 2024-12-03 06:19:20 lassipulkkinen yes 2024-12-03 09:33:24 --> Guest27 (~Guest27@c-71-202-238-254.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-03 10:01:50 <-- Guest27 (~Guest27@c-71-202-238-254.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-12-03 12:39:08 <-- Dral (~Dral@77-171-221-82.fixed.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2024-12-03 17:43:54 ddevault TkTech: can you provide the mediawiki dump somewhere other than discord 2024-12-03 17:44:22 pokechu22 Burger: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.21.4-rc3_1.21.4.html 2024-12-03 17:44:48 TkTech ddevault: It'll be on archive.org whenever it's working again 2024-12-03 17:45:12 ddevault any other solution you can come up with in the meantime? who knows when archive.org is going to be back in good order 2024-12-03 17:45:24 TkTech FYI it's been more or less completely imported into the minecraft wiki 2024-12-03 17:45:44 ddevault yeah, I know, but it's not entirely useful to my use-case there 2024-12-03 17:45:54 ddevault I'm running a mediawiki locally where I can finagle it a bit to better suit my needs 2024-12-03 17:49:52 pokechu22 I'm pretty sure archive.org uploads are working again 2024-12-03 17:53:30 pokechu22 TkTech: is there a specific error you're getting when trying to upload? 2024-12-03 17:55:25 TkTech Oh I just straight can't login or signup for a new account 2024-12-03 17:55:34 TkTech Always times out 2024-12-03 17:56:14 TkTech Login > User with that email does not exist 2024-12-03 17:56:19 TkTech Signup > Email already in use 2024-12-03 17:56:40 TkTech Login with gsuite > Locating your account .... > Could not verify account please try again... 2024-12-03 17:57:16 TkTech This reminds of KDE, where you had to login to the KDE support portal to request a password reset ;_; 2024-12-03 17:57:26 pokechu22 Hmm, you might want to email info@archive.org about that; I've been able to sign in properly 2024-12-03 18:00:14 pokechu22 Before people were getting a message along the lines of "Login successful, but we can't actually let you log in right now since we're read-only" and then "Login successful but you need to change your password". Your email not existing is something weirder :| 2024-12-03 18:04:02 TkTech Hm, login works but only on Chrome. Fantastic. 2024-12-03 18:04:12 TkTech GSuite login that is. 2024-12-03 18:05:05 pokechu22 Weird; I use just email-based login which worked fine from Firefox 2024-12-03 18:05:53 TkTech Email login is definitely hosed, might just be my account. 2024-12-03 18:06:02 TkTech Gave up and made a new one through GSuite. 2024-12-03 18:22:18 TkTech https://archive.org/details/wiki.vg_revision_and_uploads 2024-12-03 18:23:30 pokechu22 Thanks 2024-12-03 20:57:49 ddevault thanks TkTech! 2024-12-03 20:58:26 TkTech https://bsky.app/profile/tkte.ch/post/3lcgb7qcngs2i this thread if you want to share any cleanups/conversions/whatever 2024-12-03 22:04:19 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-d27-a8e9-61fd-bb16.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-03 22:11:33 <-- Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-d27-a8e9-61fd-bb16.fixed6.kpn.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2024-12-03 23:12:40 --> Dral (~Dral@2a02-a45c-e666-1-d27-a8e9-61fd-bb16.fixed6.kpn.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-03 23:41:15 <-- Dral 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2024-12-06 23:04:57 <-- Nyxarid_ (~Nyxarid@87.68.137.72) has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2024-12-07 00:55:13 --> mbax (~mbax@user/mbaxter) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-07 00:57:43 <-- mbax (~mbax@user/mbaxter) has quit (Client Quit) 2024-12-07 01:02:44 --> mbax (~mbax@user/mbaxter) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-07 03:52:47 pokechu22 [Burger] New data now avaliable for 1.24.1-rc2: 2024-12-07 03:52:49 pokechu22 [Burger] Diff from 1.24.1-rc1: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.24.1-rc1_1.24.1-rc2.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.24.1-rc1_1.24.1-rc2.json) 2024-12-07 03:52:51 pokechu22 [Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.24.1-rc2.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.24.1-rc2.json) 2024-12-07 03:53:36 pokechu22 ok, looks like I got the weechat fifo to work, going to send the other two just for searchability. This *should* automatically work when new versions come out but my code to automatically run burger is a mess 2024-12-07 03:54:15 pokechu22 [Burger] New data now avaliable for 1.24.1-rc3: 2024-12-07 03:54:17 pokechu22 [Burger] Diff from 1.24.1-rc2: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.24.1-rc2_1.24.1-rc3.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.24.1-rc2_1.24.1-rc3.json) 2024-12-07 03:54:19 pokechu22 [Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.24.1-rc3.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.24.1-rc3.json) 2024-12-07 03:55:00 pokechu22 [Burger] New data now avaliable for 1.24.1: 2024-12-07 03:55:02 pokechu22 [Burger] Diff from 1.24.1-rc3: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.24.1-rc3_1.24.1.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.24.1-rc3_1.24.1.json) 2024-12-07 03:55:04 pokechu22 [Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.24.1.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.24.1.json) 2024-12-07 03:58:26 pokechu22 hmm, one downside is that weechat doesn't mark this channel as unread or ping me for my own messages, so if something stupid happens and this starts repeating endlessly, it won't be obvious that it's happening. Though that wasn't an issue with notifico so it's probably fine, and I still get cron emails 2024-12-07 04:00:38 pokechu22 [Burger] New data now avaliable for 1.21.4: 2024-12-07 04:00:40 pokechu22 [Burger] Diff from 1.21.3: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.21.3_1.21.4.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.21.3_1.21.4.json) 2024-12-07 04:00:42 pokechu22 [Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.21.4.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.21.4.json) 2024-12-07 04:01:55 pokechu22 I still need to deal with the long github pages build times (and the notification being sent without waiting for the pages build), but I don't want to deal with that now :) 2024-12-07 20:53:02 <-- mbax (~mbax@user/mbaxter) has quit (Quit: bye!) 2024-12-07 20:53:17 --> mbax (~mbax@user/mbaxter) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-07 22:50:47 TkTech Seems to work pretty well as-is 2024-12-07 22:51:25 TkTech I'll try to spend some time on Monday to throw together a little wiki.vg landing page. 2024-12-08 13:57:24 <-- TkTech (~TkTech@modemcable198.106-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2024-12-08 22:28:40 <-- bixilon (~bixilon@node-3.bixilon.de) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2024-12-08 22:29:07 --> bixilon (~bixilon@node-3.bixilon.de) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 00:32:53 <-- vpzom (793a5d3604@irc.cheogram.com) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2024-12-09 00:35:06 --> vpzom (793a5d3604@irc.cheogram.com) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 04:33:14 --> PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 05:31:48 <-- PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-12-09 06:49:48 --> DigitalDragon9 (~digital@user/DigitalDragon) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 11:01:38 <-- balrog_ (znc@user/balrog) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2024-12-09 12:02:27 --> PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 12:50:26 <-- PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-12-09 15:23:08 --> balrog (znc@user/balrog) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 15:50:55 --> PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 16:08:09 <-- PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-12-09 16:30:35 --> DFUnkown (~DFUnkown@45.133.217.48) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 17:10:47 <-- DFUnkown (~DFUnkown@45.133.217.48) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-12-09 18:57:28 bswartz pokechu22: How come the version number is skipping from 1.21.x to 1.24.x? Where did 1.22 and 1.23 go? 2024-12-09 19:01:03 pokechu22 uhh 2024-12-09 19:01:34 pokechu22 that's probably a "I mixed up the digits" thing 2024-12-09 19:02:50 pokechu22 Yeah, what happened there was I manually ran my script with version numbers to *only* generate the notification, and thus the links are completely bogus because they correspond to versions that don't exist because I typed 1.24.1 instead of 1.21.4 2024-12-09 19:03:47 bswartz Doh! 2024-12-09 19:04:24 bswartz Is there a link to where the wiki.vg content has moved to under minecraft.wiki? 2024-12-09 19:05:26 pokechu22 [Burger] New data now avaliable for 1.21.4-rc2: 2024-12-09 19:05:28 pokechu22 [Burger] Diff from 1.21.4-rc1: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.21.4-rc1_1.21.4-rc2.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.21.4-rc1_1.21.4-rc2.json) 2024-12-09 19:05:30 pokechu22 [Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.21.4-rc2.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.21.4-rc2.json) 2024-12-09 19:05:32 pokechu22 [Burger] New data now avaliable for 1.21.4-rc3: 2024-12-09 19:05:34 pokechu22 [Burger] Diff from 1.21.4-rc2: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.21.4-rc2_1.21.4-rc3.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.21.4-rc2_1.21.4-rc3.json) 2024-12-09 19:05:36 pokechu22 [Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.21.4-rc3.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.21.4-rc3.json) 2024-12-09 19:05:43 pokechu22 [Burger] New data now avaliable for 1.21.4: 2024-12-09 19:05:45 pokechu22 [Burger] Diff from 1.21.4-rc3: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.21.4-rc3_1.21.4.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.21.4-rc3_1.21.4.json) 2024-12-09 19:05:47 pokechu22 [Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.21.4.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.21.4.json) 2024-12-09 19:05:58 pokechu22 those are the correct links (not that they're particularly interesting) 2024-12-09 20:14:33 bswartz https://minecraft.wiki/w/Minecraft_Wiki:Projects/wiki.vg_merge/Main_Page 2024-12-09 20:56:20 --> PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 21:19:11 <-- PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-12-09 21:26:41 --> PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 21:43:20 <-- PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-12-09 22:05:27 --> Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 22:06:51 --> PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 22:12:38 <-- PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-12-09 22:53:25 --> fabricsheet7 (~fabricshe@user/fabricsheet) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-09 22:55:18 <-- fabricsheet (~fabricshe@user/fabricsheet) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2024-12-09 22:55:18 -- fabricsheet7 is now known as fabricsheet 2024-12-09 23:56:25 <-- Erb3 (~Erb3@xenon.patriik.one) has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 2024-12-09 23:56:36 --> Erb3 (~Erb3@xenon.patriik.one) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-10 01:07:53 <-- Schoentoon (~Schoentoo@schoentoon.com) has quit (Quit: THE GAME) 2024-12-10 01:08:07 --> Schoentoon (~Schoentoo@schoentoon.com) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-10 10:08:31 <-- Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2024-12-10 16:20:22 --> PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-10 16:27:51 <-- PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has quit (Quit: Client closed) 2024-12-10 21:01:36 --> NoahvdAa (~NoahvdAa@user/noahvdaa) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-11 04:39:18 <-- antoniomika (~antonio@user/antoniomika) has quit (Quit: antoniomika) 2024-12-11 04:39:46 --> antoniomika (~antonio@user/antoniomika) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-11 11:25:52 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@c-98-238-129-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2024-12-11 11:26:00 --> SpaceMan1ac (~SpaceMani@2601:206:8300:393::1008) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-11 11:26:24 -- SpaceMan1ac is now known as SpaceManiac 2024-12-11 11:31:09 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@2601:206:8300:393::1008) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2024-12-11 16:05:51 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@2601:206:8300:393::1008) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-11 16:10:33 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@2601:206:8300:393::1008) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2024-12-11 16:14:48 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@2601:206:8300:393::1008) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-11 16:17:44 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@2601:206:8300:393::1008) has quit (Client Quit) 2024-12-11 16:18:03 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@c-98-238-129-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-11 17:33:40 bswartz Has anyone made much progress on the network protocol changes between 1.21.1 -> 1.21.4? I've been scanning the wiki and it's a lot -- very complex 2024-12-11 17:40:10 bswartz I thought someone had written an automatic code decompiler and network parser that could extract out the network packet formats from the decompiled code at one point -- maybe I'm misremembering 2024-12-11 17:42:00 lassipulkkinen burger used to do that but it hasn't been updated to understand the new stream codec system 2024-12-11 17:42:17 lassipulkkinen i've just been going off of plain text diffs 2024-12-11 17:43:43 bswartz Text diffs of what? 2024-12-11 17:43:46 bswartz Of the java code? 2024-12-11 17:44:05 lassipulkkinen i think the 1.21.3 changes were pretty much complete before some 1.21.4 changes got added on top. i should look into 1.21.4 soon and try to merge it into the protocol article. 2024-12-11 17:44:12 lassipulkkinen of the java code, yes 2024-12-11 17:44:32 bswartz Yeah I was going to ask if you're updating the (now-moved) wiki with the new information 2024-12-11 17:44:58 bswartz The pre-release protocol article is incomplete and wrong and I'm not sure how to best help fix it 2024-12-11 17:45:06 bswartz Maybe I need to decompile this stuff myself 2024-12-11 17:46:02 lassipulkkinen you can, yeah. i used vineflower (the quilt project's fork of fernflower); seems to work well enough, though it has some weird problems with local variable names 2024-12-11 17:48:38 lassipulkkinen i think the jar has names generated by proguard that look like $$1 etc, which end up in the decompiled source - which mostly works, but sometimes variables in inner scopes shadow outer ones and things break. there's a flag that's supposed to disable use of LVT names but (as of whatever version i'm using) it doesn't seem to do anything..? 2024-12-11 17:49:52 pokechu22 IIRC those local variable names exist so that there is a valid local variable name table, and thus the forge team's system/MCP can assign unique names to all of them (even though that never ended up happening). So theoretically that could avoid issues with reconstructing the local variable table incorrectly, but in practice it might not be helping 2024-12-11 17:51:51 lassipulkkinen there's a flag literally called --use-lvt-names=/true/false, but it has almost no effect on the output 2024-12-11 17:52:04 lassipulkkinen i should try updating and see if it's fixed 2024-12-11 17:54:17 lassipulkkinen but i always fear i'll caught up in some supply chain attack when i deal with gradle/maven garbage 2024-12-11 17:55:39 lassipulkkinen *get 2024-12-11 17:57:25 bswartz pokechu22: Did you ever consider updating burger to understand the new stream codec system? 2024-12-11 18:00:16 pokechu22 I haven't had time to look into what's changed 2024-12-11 18:01:47 pokechu22 It seems like it would be worth implementing but it's also probably a lot of effort; the packet decompilation part of burger is something that I'm always surprised works as well as it does 2024-12-11 18:03:30 lassipulkkinen but yeah my server is currently on 1.21.3, and i don't feel comfortable updating the wiki without trying if any of it works, otherwise i'll miss something very obvious. it's in a pretty good state right now, i'm in the process of adding inventory handling atm. maybe i'll update to 1.21.4 soon. 2024-12-11 18:05:08 bswartz lassipulkkinen: Do you write custom clients or custom servers? 2024-12-11 18:05:31 lassipulkkinen i just said it's a server 2024-12-11 18:10:05 bswartz You said you had a server but I didn't know if you were running a vanilla server and testing a custom client against it 2024-12-11 18:10:31 bswartz I have a client and so I do run the vanilla server for testing purposes 2024-12-11 18:10:43 lassipulkkinen sure, would be kinda weird to refer to the server in that case though, idk 2024-12-11 20:58:48 --> Tides (~Tides@user/Tides) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-11 21:08:28 bswartz lassipulkkinen: The IntelliJ IDE seems perfectly able to decompile the jar files on my system 2024-12-11 21:46:17 bswartz Reading the decompiled code makes it very easy to get the fields of each packet, but the packet IDs are not straightforward to extract because they seem to be generated dynamically by a hashmap at runtime 2024-12-11 21:47:02 bswartz Has anyone figured out a way to just link to the jar file and make the codec dump the mappings from IDs to packets? 2024-12-11 21:47:40 lassipulkkinen the builtin data generators can provide packet ids nowadays 2024-12-11 21:47:48 bswartz Oooh 2024-12-11 21:47:56 bswartz How can I invoke that? 2024-12-11 21:48:10 lassipulkkinen https://minecraft.wiki/w/Minecraft_Wiki:Projects/wiki.vg_merge/Data_Generators 2024-12-11 21:50:04 lassipulkkinen also i think the order is just the one they're listed in in code, no hash map involved 2024-12-11 21:50:31 bswartz I looked at the order in the code and it doesn't match the documented packets IDs 2024-12-11 21:50:44 bswartz Maybe something new happened in 1.21.4 2024-12-11 21:51:24 lassipulkkinen there are two places where packet types are listed in the code, one that defines all packets and another that defines which belong to which state. maybe you looked at the wron one? 2024-12-11 21:51:31 lassipulkkinen i can never remember the file names 2024-12-11 21:52:20 bswartz Holy crap the data generator worked! 2024-12-11 21:52:29 bswartz I need to double check that these values are accurate 2024-12-11 21:53:01 bswartz Yeah it's likely that I missed some crucial file in the code 2024-12-11 21:53:32 bswartz I've been poking around in the net.minecraft.network package 2024-12-11 21:53:59 bswartz There are several subpackages with lists of packets 2024-12-11 21:54:12 bswartz But not comprehensive list 2024-12-11 21:54:27 lassipulkkinen in 1.21.3 at least the play packet id order is defined in net/minecraft/network/protocol/game/GameProtocols.java 2024-12-11 21:55:34 bswartz In 1.21.4 that file is just 12 lines 2024-12-11 21:55:42 lassipulkkinen oh 2024-12-11 21:55:55 lassipulkkinen got to look into that 2024-12-11 21:55:56 bswartz (plus 35 lines of imports) 2024-12-11 21:56:49 bswartz Oh wait, those 12 lines are LONG lines 2024-12-11 21:56:59 bswartz 13398 columns long 2024-12-11 21:57:06 lassipulkkinen maybe the decomp did weird 2024-12-11 21:57:10 bswartz My decompiler doesn't line wrap it would seem 2024-12-11 21:57:22 lassipulkkinen yeah those are long statements 2024-12-11 21:57:29 bswartz Yeah I see the packets listed in order 2024-12-11 21:57:37 bswartz Okay thanks this is additional useful info 2024-12-11 21:57:55 bswartz But the generator report is probably easier to consume diretly 2024-12-11 21:58:10 bswartz (If it's accurate) 2024-12-11 21:58:38 lassipulkkinen you should probably configure the decompiler to line wrap though, there are going to be more long lines 2024-12-11 21:59:04 bswartz I don't rely on the decompiler for most things 2024-12-11 21:59:32 bswartz But yeah I can look into how that works. Probably a command line setting 2024-12-11 22:12:25 bswartz Yep the numbers look right 2024-12-11 22:12:45 bswartz This is going to make my life so easy after I rewrite my packet generator to parse these files 2024-12-11 22:13:58 lassipulkkinen yeah, i have some jq scripts that write c headers from the packet, block and registry reports 2024-12-11 22:16:27 bswartz The problem with the block reports is that they don't have all the data I want 2024-12-11 22:16:53 bswartz You can get IDs for the blocks, but not all the block properties 2024-12-11 22:18:33 lassipulkkinen yeah, that is annoying. but i suppose it's easier to write some code that assigns those values if you don't have to worry about getting the id order correct. 2024-12-11 22:24:16 bswartz There's too many blocks though. I needed an automated way to dump all the block properties so I had to write code that directly loads the server jar and uses Java code to dump the stuff I care about 2024-12-11 22:24:34 bswartz Mainly the geometry of each block so that I can run physics on them 2024-12-11 22:26:18 bswartz This stuff hasn't been updated in ages though -- looks like it's all broken 2024-12-11 22:28:02 lassipulkkinen i've never had to do that so far; soon will though. i'll probably try to do it by hand. for the block models at least it's not like there are that many unique ones. 2024-12-11 22:28:23 bswartz That's what I thought..... 2024-12-11 22:28:56 bswartz There's close to 1000 though when you start looking at the weirder blocks 2024-12-11 22:29:34 lassipulkkinen surely that includes rotated permmutations etc 2024-12-11 22:29:43 lassipulkkinen *permutations 2024-12-11 22:31:08 bswartz Yes, but you still need to map every block ID to its shape based on rotation and other block tags 2024-12-11 22:31:37 bswartz Think about weird blocks like lecterns, bells, grindstones, etc 2024-12-11 22:31:52 bswartz The worst one of all is chorus flower if I'm not mistaken 2024-12-11 22:32:08 lassipulkkinen but it can be done 2024-12-11 22:32:20 bswartz I was able to do a few dozen by hand, but when I wanted more than that I had to automate 2024-12-11 22:33:51 lassipulkkinen to be clear, by "by hand" i don't mean literally assigning every model to every block state or block manually. just doing it without any data extractor tools 2024-12-11 22:35:07 bswartz Remember that each block has multiple shapes too 2024-12-11 22:35:34 bswartz The collision model is different from the visual model 2024-12-11 22:35:56 lassipulkkinen i know, i've implemented rendering for the visual models 2024-12-11 22:36:21 lassipulkkinen (not in this project ofc) 2024-12-11 22:36:29 bswartz Okay well I will need some luck fixing my broken code 2024-12-11 22:36:32 bswartz BBL 2024-12-12 00:15:06 <-- Tknoguyfication (~hayden@user/Tknoguyfication) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2024-12-12 00:27:47 --> Tknoguyfication (~hayden@user/Tknoguyfication) has joined #mcdevs 2024-12-12 03:10:26 Tides I have a question about structures I know mojang includes some of the worldgen aspect of them but is there a reason why they don't include the actual structure files? 2024-12-12 03:14:03 lassipulkkinen dunno what you mean by "include", but the structure files for some structures at least are defined in the default data pack. the rest are probably defined in code. 2024-12-12 03:14:50 Tides I meant included in the data generators sorry ^ ^ 2024-12-12 03:15:21 lassipulkkinen the directory structure is kinda confusing ig, the worldgen info is in worldgen/structure/ and the actual structure files are in structure/ 2024-12-12 03:16:23 lassipulkkinen now i'm actually really interested in how desert temples etc are programmed given there are no structure files for them 2024-12-12 03:19:08 lassipulkkinen yeah net/minecraft/world/level/levelgen/structure/structures/DesertPyramidPiece.java seems like my guess was correct 2024-12-12 03:20:16 Tides Ahh okay I see 2024-12-12 03:22:29 Tides I was just wondering cause I'm getting into adding structures to my world gen 2024-12-12 03:23:15 lassipulkkinen cool 2024-12-12 03:23:27 Tides Only worldgen/structures was included in data generators 2024-12-12 03:24:17 Tides Which doesn't really provide the data of the pieces just the resource loc of them 2024-12-12 03:24:53 lassipulkkinen you don't need data generators for those things; i guess those parts only exist for mojang to generate the default data pack. 2024-12-12 03:25:27 Tides Yeah, I figured 2024-12-12 05:49:36 <-- dav1d (~dav1d@user/meow/dav1d) has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 2024-12-12 05:49:58 --> dav1d (~dav1d@user/meow/dav1d) has joined #mcdevs