2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	Prf_Jakob (jakob@volt/developer/jakob) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	bigfoot547 (bigfoot@unaffiliated/bigfoot547) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	yangm (yanyetanot@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qejqmwbdbduukfrw) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	chibill (chibillmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ziummkucdrhhbqot) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	keg[m] (kegicyname@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-vztkacdwhqjgwxtr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	electronicboy (~electroni@atlas.valaria.pw) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	Sainan (~Sai@static.222.155.69.159.clients.your-server.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	NickG365 (~NickG365@2607:5300:60:6e29:472:6425:3733:0) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	RoboMWM (~RoboMWM@tf.robomwm.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	Adam (Adam@unaffiliated/adam-) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	Luck (~Luck@51.89.139.51) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	iczero (iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	Thinkofname (~Think@167.172.50.173) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	spirit (~spirit@233.ip-144-217-92.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	-->	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:32:22	--	Mode #mcdevs [+vvv Prf_Jakob Thinkofname Amaranth] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-05 22:33:07	<--	charims (~quassel@wsip-24-234-28-130.lv.lv.cox.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:33:07	<--	spirit (~spirit@233.ip-144-217-92.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:33:07	<--	Sainan (~Sai@static.222.155.69.159.clients.your-server.de) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:33:08	<--	KennyTV (~KennyTV@static.162.124.47.78.clients.your-server.de) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:33:08	<--	Tuxel (~tux@80.77.26.7) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:33:08	<--	dranghek (~darngeek@bouncer.pocketmine.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:33:08	<--	Anna (anna@borealis.voxelstorm.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:33:08	<--	switchy (~switchy@unaffiliated/switchy) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:33:08	<--	Yamakaja (~yamakaja@vps.pub.yamakaja.me) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:33:08	<--	WizardCM (~WizardCM@103.93.232.3) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:33:20	-->	charims (~quassel@wsip-24-234-28-130.lv.lv.cox.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:33:20	-->	spirit (~spirit@233.ip-144-217-92.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:33:20	-->	Sainan (~Sai@static.222.155.69.159.clients.your-server.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:33:20	-->	switchy (~switchy@unaffiliated/switchy) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:33:20	-->	KennyTV (~KennyTV@static.162.124.47.78.clients.your-server.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:33:20	-->	Tuxel (~tux@80.77.26.7) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:33:20	-->	dranghek (~darngeek@bouncer.pocketmine.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:33:20	-->	Anna (anna@borealis.voxelstorm.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:33:20	-->	Yamakaja (~yamakaja@vps.pub.yamakaja.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:33:20	-->	92AAAQKA8 (~WizardCM@103.93.232.3) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:34:12	<--	chibill (chibillmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ziummkucdrhhbqot) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2020-07-05 22:34:13	<--	Wanderer (~wanderer@unaffiliated/wanderer) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:14	<--	kev009 (~kev009@ip72-222-200-117.ph.ph.cox.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:14	<--	electronicboy (~electroni@atlas.valaria.pw) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:14	<--	Prf_Jakob (jakob@volt/developer/jakob) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:14	<--	MiniDigger (~MiniDigge@electroniccat.smells.minidigger.me) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:14	<--	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:14	<--	ammar2 (admin@i.diddled.with.the.opers.so.they.klined.me) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:14	<--	clonejo (~clonejo@shakik3.shakik.de) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:15	<--	x10A94 (~x@207.154.230.175) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:51	-->	Wanderer (~wanderer@unaffiliated/wanderer) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:34:51	-->	kev009 (~kev009@ip72-222-200-117.ph.ph.cox.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:34:51	-->	electronicboy (~electroni@atlas.valaria.pw) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:34:51	-->	Prf_Jakob (jakob@volt/developer/jakob) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:34:51	-->	MiniDigger (~MiniDigge@electroniccat.smells.minidigger.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:34:51	-->	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:34:51	-->	ammar2 (admin@i.diddled.with.the.opers.so.they.klined.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:34:51	-->	clonejo (~clonejo@shakik3.shakik.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:34:51	-->	x10A94 (~x@207.154.230.175) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:34:51	--	Mode #mcdevs [+vvv kev009 Prf_Jakob ammar2] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-05 22:34:54	<--	mrkirby153 (~mrkirby15@mrkirby153.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:55	<--	MisterVector (Vector@cpe-172-90-152-76.socal.res.rr.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:34:55	<--	Luck (~Luck@51.89.139.51) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:35:08	<--	keg[m] (kegicyname@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-vztkacdwhqjgwxtr) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2020-07-05 22:35:35	<--	Andrio (Andrio@questers-rest.andriocelos.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:35:35	<--	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:35:35	<--	iczero (iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:35:35	<--	NickG365 (~NickG365@2607:5300:60:6e29:472:6425:3733:0) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:35:36	<--	Fenhl (sid30770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bbhzdmdbnldvaqxv) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:35:36	<--	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hhifmgnilssqtipv) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:35:42	-->	mrkirby153 (~mrkirby15@mrkirby153.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:35:42	-->	MisterVector (Vector@cpe-172-90-152-76.socal.res.rr.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:35:42	-->	Luck (~Luck@51.89.139.51) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:35:52	-->	Andrio (Andrio@questers-rest.andriocelos.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:35:52	-->	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:35:52	-->	iczero (iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:35:52	-->	NickG365 (~NickG365@2607:5300:60:6e29:472:6425:3733:0) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:35:52	-->	Fenhl (sid30770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bbhzdmdbnldvaqxv) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:35:52	-->	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hhifmgnilssqtipv) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:35:52	--	Mode #mcdevs [+vv Amaranth Fenhl] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-05 22:36:05	<--	Fenhl (sid30770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bbhzdmdbnldvaqxv) a quitté (Max SendQ exceeded)
2020-07-05 22:36:11	<--	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@147.116.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:36:11	<--	None4U (~None4U@147.116.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:36:11	<--	ddevault (znc@sourcehut/staff/ddevault) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:36:11	<--	niceplace (~nplace@198.204.231.148) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:37:23	-->	None4U (~None4U@147.116.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:37:23	-->	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@147.116.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:37:23	-->	ddevault (znc@sourcehut/staff/ddevault) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:37:23	-->	niceplace (~nplace@198.204.231.148) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:37:23	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v ddevault] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-05 22:37:39	<--	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:37:39	<--	Proximyst (~Proximyst@freya.proximyst.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:37:39	<--	matthewprenger (~matthewpr@136.33.177.190) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:37:39	<--	Fador (fador@hentai.fi) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:37:40	<--	saper (saper@wikipedia/saper) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:37:40	<--	mrarm (~mrarm@unaffiliated/mrarm) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:37:43	<--	yangm (yanyetanot@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qejqmwbdbduukfrw) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2020-07-05 22:38:04	-->	None4U1 (~None4U@147.116.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:06	<--	None4U1 (~None4U@147.116.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:38:06	<--	Adam (Adam@unaffiliated/adam-) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:38:07	<--	vemacs (~vemacs@unaffiliated/vemacs) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:38:07	<--	GingerGeek (~Zed@unaffiliated/gingergeek) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:38:07	<--	Not-944e (~notifico@ec2-52-3-50-241.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:38:15	<--	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hhifmgnilssqtipv) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2020-07-05 22:38:18	-->	SiebeDW1 (~SiebeDW@147.116.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:21	-->	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:21	-->	Proximyst (~Proximyst@freya.proximyst.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:21	-->	matthewprenger (~matthewpr@136.33.177.190) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:21	-->	Fador (fador@hentai.fi) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:21	-->	saper (saper@wikipedia/saper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:21	-->	mrarm (~mrarm@unaffiliated/mrarm) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:21	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Fador] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-05 22:38:27	<--	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a quitté (Excess Flood)
2020-07-05 22:38:33	-->	None4U1 (~None4U@147.116.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:33	-->	Adam (Adam@unaffiliated/adam-) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:33	-->	vemacs (~vemacs@unaffiliated/vemacs) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:33	-->	GingerGeek (~Zed@unaffiliated/gingergeek) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:33	-->	Not-944e (~notifico@ec2-52-3-50-241.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:44	-->	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:38:46	<--	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@147.116.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Write error: Broken pipe)
2020-07-05 22:38:46	<--	None4U (~None4U@147.116.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Write error: Broken pipe)
2020-07-05 22:38:55	<--	asdew (~asdew@dsl-hkibng11-50dc43-88.dhcp.inet.fi) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:38:55	<--	Thinkofname (~Think@167.172.50.173) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:38:55	<--	RoboMWM (~RoboMWM@tf.robomwm.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:38:55	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:38:55	<--	Intelli (sid46069@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-alvprjhpksojdhdg) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:38:55	<--	Tux (~tux@unaffiliated/tux) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:28	<--	Plancke (~Plancke@2604:a880:400:d0::d58:e001) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:28	<--	bigfoot547 (bigfoot@unaffiliated/bigfoot547) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:29	<--	kashike (kashike@unaffiliated/kashike) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:29	<--	Brandon15811 (sid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zcqysolgfapywjlf) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:29	<--	ecx (~ecx@unaffiliated/ecx) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:30	<--	Pyker (~pyker@hexagon.pyker.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:30	<--	EvilJStoker (jstoker@unaffiliated/jstoker) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:30	<--	SupaHam (~SupaHam@supaham.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:30	<--	offbeatwitch (~offbeatwi@2001:bc8:604:343::1) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:30	<--	craftxbox (~craftxbox@unaffiliated/craftxbox) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:39:43	-->	asdew (~asdew@dsl-hkibng11-50dc43-88.dhcp.inet.fi) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:39:43	-->	Thinkofname (~Think@167.172.50.173) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:39:43	-->	RoboMWM (~RoboMWM@tf.robomwm.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:39:43	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:39:43	-->	Intelli (sid46069@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-alvprjhpksojdhdg) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:39:43	-->	Tux (~tux@unaffiliated/tux) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:39:43	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Thinkofname] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-05 22:40:16	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2020-07-05 22:40:39	<--	__0x277E (~Hex@four.out.of.five.doctors.recommend.hex.lc) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:40:39	<--	Morrolan (morrolan@139.162.178.137) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:40:39	<--	vemacse (~vemacs@192.3.17.176) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:40:39	<--	Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:40:48	-->	__0x277E (~Hex@four.out.of.five.doctors.recommend.hex.lc) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:40:48	-->	Morrolan (morrolan@139.162.178.137) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:40:48	-->	vemacse (~vemacs@192.3.17.176) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:40:48	-->	Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:22	rom1504	I see node GUI is based on Qt
2020-07-05 22:41:30	<--	Akkarin (~Akkarin@hyperion.torchmind.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:41:30	<--	ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:41:40	rom1504	Not sure which one is the biggest bloat between electron and Qt
2020-07-05 22:41:41	-->	Plancke (~Plancke@2604:a880:400:d0::d58:e001) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:41	-->	bigfoot547 (bigfoot@unaffiliated/bigfoot547) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:41	-->	kashike (kashike@unaffiliated/kashike) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:41	-->	Brandon15811 (sid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zcqysolgfapywjlf) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:41	-->	ecx (~ecx@unaffiliated/ecx) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:41	-->	Pyker (~pyker@hexagon.pyker.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:41	-->	EvilJStoker (jstoker@unaffiliated/jstoker) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:41	-->	SupaHam (~SupaHam@supaham.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:41	-->	offbeatwitch (~offbeatwi@2001:bc8:604:343::1) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:41	-->	craftxbox (~craftxbox@unaffiliated/craftxbox) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:50	rom1504	Both of them bundle a web renderer
2020-07-05 22:41:58	rom1504	And a JavaScript engine
2020-07-05 22:41:58	-->	Akkarin (~Akkarin@hyperion.torchmind.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:58	-->	ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:41:58	--	Mode #mcdevs [+o ChanServ] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-05 22:42:23	<--	e (e@freenode/staff/spy.edk) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:42:23	<--	imharvol1 (~imharvol@92.176.208.85) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:42:23	<--	deltab (~deltab@95.154.230.49) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:42:32	rom1504	Node GUI also have react too so well, definitely in bloat land
2020-07-05 22:42:40	-->	e (e@freenode/staff/spy.edk) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:42:40	-->	imharvol1 (~imharvol@92.176.208.85) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:42:40	-->	deltab (~deltab@95.154.230.49) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:42:51	rom1504	So I'd tend to agree with what has been said here
2020-07-05 22:43:00	rom1504	Just pick the one you're most comfortable with
2020-07-05 22:43:14	rom1504	Users don't even notice how much room it takes
2020-07-05 22:43:42	rom1504	However there's another consideration you might think important
2020-07-05 22:43:51	rom1504	Users don't like to download programs
2020-07-05 22:44:06	rom1504	If instead they can use it from a web page it'll have more success
2020-07-05 22:44:35	rom1504	But if it's for dev (and I think it is here ?), A desktop app is quite fine
2020-07-05 22:45:27	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:46:41	-->	chibill (chibillmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-atwgcigidipkuuxa) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:46:42	-->	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gnfxpgcsacqwkgdt) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:49:14	-->	Fenhl (sid30770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhkchisqiyyecakj) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-05 22:49:14	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Fenhl] par ChanServ
2020-07-05 22:49:20	<--	mrkirby153 (~mrkirby15@mrkirby153.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:49:20	<--	MisterVector (Vector@cpe-172-90-152-76.socal.res.rr.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-05 22:49:20	<--	Luck (~Luck@51.89.139.51) a quitté (*.net *.split)
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2020-07-05 22:59:34	circuit10	You can't easily monitor packets from a webpage
2020-07-05 22:59:54	circuit10	Unless you run the proxy through a local server
2020-07-05 23:00:03	circuit10	But then you can't connect to a localhost server
2020-07-05 23:00:41	circuit10	> ​Both of them bundle a web renderer​​
2020-07-05 23:00:43	circuit10	Are you sure?
2020-07-05 23:01:05	+pokechu22	I think QT's renderer is a separate module
2020-07-05 23:01:05	Not-944e	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://git.io/JJI0Q
2020-07-05 23:01:06	Not-944e	[mineflayer] Nurutomo 8f11cdf - Fix chat_message..js bracketing (#1105)
2020-07-05 23:01:49	circuit10	I think Qt is like GTK
2020-07-05 23:02:10	circuit10	They're both "widget toolkits"
2020-07-05 23:03:18	rom1504	circuit10: yeah you can have a proxy
2020-07-05 23:03:42	rom1504	Qt do have a web renderer but yeah might they didn't include it
2020-07-05 23:04:07	rom1504	about the js engine, they have one in Qt too, but they could have decided not to include it either
2020-07-05 23:04:23	rom1504	what's for sure is it's a huge framework
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2020-07-05 23:25:50	yyvwPpI7BO_	Hey everyone, I wanted to ask if the format for Anvil files changed in the last few updates because I can't manage to parse chunk data correctly even when following the documentation, and even a program I wrote in the past that used to work just fine seems to break when working with newly generated chunks
2020-07-05 23:26:41	Not-944e	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JJIED
2020-07-05 23:26:43	Not-944e	[mineflayer] rom1504 dd2e278 - Release 2.22.1
2020-07-05 23:27:24	Not-944e	[mineflayer] github-actions[bot] tagged dd2e278 as 2.22.1 https://git.io/JJIEQ
2020-07-05 23:27:34	rom1504	yyvwPpI7BO_: yes it did
2020-07-05 23:27:38	rom1504	you can check this PR https://github.com/PrismarineJS/prismarine-provider-anvil/pull/24
2020-07-05 23:27:47	rom1504	and this page https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Talk:Chunk_format#Parsing_Heightmaps_field_.281.15.2.29
2020-07-05 23:27:49	rom1504	for details
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2020-07-05 23:28:43	yyvwPpI7BO_	That certainly seems like a relevant change, however my program fails much earlier
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2020-07-05 23:28:56	yyvwPpI7BO_	It seems like it grabs the data for the wrong chunk
2020-07-05 23:29:33	yyvwPpI7BO_	The data is valid NBT and can be parsed just fine, but it contains completely different data than when I open the work in NBTExplorer and check the chunk manually
2020-07-05 23:30:15	yyvwPpI7BO_	But I feel like I checked the code that gets the chunk data offset a million times and I can't figure out what's wrong
2020-07-05 23:30:17	rom1504	no the region format didn't change
2020-07-05 23:30:22	rom1504	the chunk format did
2020-07-05 23:31:29	rom1504	did you handle the palette and everything ?
2020-07-05 23:31:51	yyvwPpI7BO_	Well I'm not even there yet
2020-07-05 23:32:15	rom1504	then what do you mean by "I feel like I checked the code that gets the chunk data offset a million times" ?
2020-07-05 23:32:26	yyvwPpI7BO_	I'm just comparing the chunk data I'm getting from my program with the correct one from NBTExplorer and the Heightmaps are completely different for example
2020-07-05 23:32:38	rom1504	if you don't handle the palette you cannot generate the chunk data
2020-07-05 23:33:24	yyvwPpI7BO_	By chunk data I mean the section in the .mcr file corresponding to the chunk at a certain x/z coordinate
2020-07-05 23:33:58	rom1504	ok I need more info
2020-07-05 23:34:06	rom1504	what are you building ?
2020-07-05 23:34:08	rom1504	a server ?
2020-07-05 23:34:23	rom1504	are you working on reading an existing world or reading to a region file ?
2020-07-05 23:34:31	rom1504	*writing
2020-07-05 23:34:33	yyvwPpI7BO_	Well it's supposed to be a program that generates a png image of your world
2020-07-05 23:34:52	yyvwPpI7BO_	Should look like a minecraft map
2020-07-05 23:35:31	yyvwPpI7BO_	https://i.imgur.com/mn3gCzO.png
2020-07-05 23:35:45	yyvwPpI7BO_	This is an output of an old version of the program I wrote for 1.13
2020-07-05 23:36:11	yyvwPpI7BO_	Now I'm reimplementing a new version and while testing I noticed that the old version doesn't even seem to work with new worlds anymore
2020-07-05 23:36:20	yyvwPpI7BO_	That's why I asked if there were any changes
2020-07-05 23:38:31	rom1504	got it
2020-07-05 23:38:35	rom1504	pretty cool btw
2020-07-05 23:38:42	rom1504	so you're trying to read
2020-07-05 23:39:00	rom1504	you do need to handle the palette and everything to be able to read the new chunks
2020-07-05 23:39:10	rom1504	but if you did write it for 1.13 that's not your issue
2020-07-05 23:39:16	rom1504	you need the other changes that were made
2020-07-05 23:39:23	yyvwPpI7BO_	Yeah the old program handles palettes already
2020-07-05 23:39:37	rom1504	which version are you targeting ?
2020-07-05 23:39:43	yyvwPpI7BO_	1.16
2020-07-05 23:40:42	yyvwPpI7BO_	But as I said I feel like it confuses the chunks that are stored in the .mcr and seems to grab the wrong one for any given X/Z coordinate, because the chunk data is completely valid but also completely different from the one any other program displays when I search for the same chunk
2020-07-05 23:40:55	rom1504	ok
2020-07-05 23:41:07	rom1504	in 1.16 they changed the way chunks are encoded in a subtle way
2020-07-05 23:41:22	rom1504	https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Talk:Chunk_format#1.16_Chunk_format_changes
2020-07-05 23:41:36	rom1504	blocks used to span multiple longs in the bytearray
2020-07-05 23:41:59	rom1504	now they don't, if a block would be at the end of a long and span to the next one, it just go to the next one
2020-07-05 23:42:09	rom1504	it might be related to your issue
2020-07-05 23:42:55	rom1504	they might have changed heightmaps too but not sure there, I didn't handle the heightmaps
2020-07-05 23:43:25	rom1504	I don't see why you would be getting a different x/z chunk as region format didn't change
2020-07-05 23:43:30	yyvwPpI7BO_	I think I need to handle that but the decoded NBT chunk data is also very different which is the main problem right now
2020-07-05 23:44:04	yyvwPpI7BO_	For example if I open the chunk 0/0 in NBTExplorer it tells me there is one entity, but my program says there are none
2020-07-05 23:44:22	yyvwPpI7BO_	The sections and heightmaps are completely different as well
2020-07-05 23:44:47	yyvwPpI7BO_	And the kicker is that my old program agrees with the output from my new one
2020-07-05 23:45:00	yyvwPpI7BO_	But it seemed to work perfectly fine in 1.13
2020-07-05 23:45:24	yyvwPpI7BO_	In fact if I open a world in 1.16 and try to generate a map around the spawn it breaks
2020-07-05 23:45:59	yyvwPpI7BO_	But if I shift the coordinates by a few thousand blocks to old chunks that I didn't visit since 1.14ish? it works perfectly fine
2020-07-05 23:47:41	rom1504	maybe the way you get the chunk in the region file is slightly wrong and somehow in 1.13 it still worked ?
2020-07-05 23:47:54	rom1504	but I'm just guessing, no idea, you'll have to debug :)
2020-07-05 23:48:05	rom1504	there are a bunch of region format implementation
2020-07-05 23:48:08	rom1504	try to compare with them
2020-07-05 23:48:17	yyvwPpI7BO_	The problem is that it's so simple it's basically impossible to do wrong
2020-07-05 23:48:38	rom1504	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/prismarine-provider-anvil/blob/master/src/region.js here is one in js if that can help
2020-07-05 23:49:09	yyvwPpI7BO_	I've tried comparing it with source of various implementations I found on GitHub and they all seem to do it the same way
2020-07-05 23:49:10	rom1504	mostly based on this java one https://pastebin.com/niWTqLvk
2020-07-05 23:49:27	yyvwPpI7BO_	It's just reading 3 bytes and multiplying by 4096
2020-07-05 23:49:43	yyvwPpI7BO_	I like to imagine I couldn't possibly screw that up
2020-07-05 23:49:53	rom1504	yyvwPpI7BO_: try to use any other implementation to get the chunk and compare with what you get with yours
2020-07-05 23:49:54	yyvwPpI7BO_	But I'll take a look at those implementations, thanks
2020-07-05 23:50:02	rom1504	that way you'll know for sure if it's correct or not
2020-07-05 23:51:09	rom1504	for example you can use https://github.com/PrismarineJS/prismarine-provider-anvil#anvilloadrawxz to compare
2020-07-05 23:53:01	yyvwPpI7BO_	Ironic
2020-07-05 23:53:26	yyvwPpI7BO_	I'm trying to rewrite my program so it doesn't use JS anymore and here I am going back to JS for debugging
2020-07-05 23:53:53	rom1504	what language are you targeting ?
2020-07-05 23:53:57	yyvwPpI7BO_	Rust
2020-07-05 23:54:53	rom1504	cool
2020-07-05 23:55:08	rom1504	there are a bunch of minecraft stuff that have been written in rust
2020-07-05 23:55:16	yyvwPpI7BO_	It's pretty much a learning project, I wrote my own NBT parser as well
2020-07-05 23:55:43	yyvwPpI7BO_	Trying to keep it at 2 dependencies only, one for PNG encoding and one for Zlib decompression
2020-07-05 23:57:07	yyvwPpI7BO_	I feel like writing my own implementations for those would expand the scope of the project too much :D
2020-07-05 23:58:53	rom1504	I think zlib is not too difficult
2020-07-05 23:59:00	rom1504	png though, I bet it's a pain
2020-07-05 23:59:26	rom1504	but if you start going that path, you'll endup reimplementing libc ;)
2020-07-06 00:00:09	yyvwPpI7BO_	Still seems too easy
2020-07-06 00:00:20	yyvwPpI7BO_	I should make my own CPU with a custom instruction set
2020-07-06 00:01:10	rom1504	ah interesting PNG also uses DEFLATE (zlib is mostly based on this)
2020-07-06 00:01:28	rom1504	but with a step before, and a bunch of options to handle colors and stuff
2020-07-06 00:02:03	rom1504	ah yeah making a custom CPU architecture to produce minecraft maps doesn't sound overkill at all :D
2020-07-06 00:02:29	yyvwPpI7BO_	Still too basic
2020-07-06 00:02:55	yyvwPpI7BO_	Maybe I should reinvent electricity
2020-07-06 00:03:08	yyvwPpI7BO_	Well anyways
2020-07-06 00:03:17	yyvwPpI7BO_	The example in the JS lib you sent seems to crash when using my example world
2020-07-06 00:03:35	rom1504	which example ?
2020-07-06 00:03:40	yyvwPpI7BO_	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/prismarine-provider-anvil/blob/b873f4b2034b6d6c6f390dcf4b0d3ed2df121a79/examples/example_read_anvil.js
2020-07-06 00:04:04	rom1504	remove the load line, just do loadRaw
2020-07-06 00:04:18	rom1504	and this too https://github.com/PrismarineJS/prismarine-provider-anvil/blob/b873f4b2034b6d6c6f390dcf4b0d3ed2df121a79/examples/example_read_anvil.js#L13
2020-07-06 00:04:26	rom1504	just keep only the anvil instance and loadRaw
2020-07-06 00:04:26	yyvwPpI7BO_	I tried (new Anvil('C:\\Users\\<redacted>\\AppData\\Roaming\\.minecraft\\saves\\Dungeon\\region')).load(0, 0)
2020-07-06 00:04:33	rom1504	no, loadRaw not load
2020-07-06 00:04:33	yyvwPpI7BO_	That didn't work
2020-07-06 00:04:45	rom1504	load will try to parse the chunks, we support chunk parsing only up to 1.13
2020-07-06 00:05:04	yyvwPpI7BO_	Parse in what sense?
2020-07-06 00:05:28	rom1504	look into it, read the palette etc
2020-07-06 00:05:38	rom1504	loadRaw just reads the nbt
2020-07-06 00:06:10	rom1504	that should make it possible for you to do basic checks to make sure you have the same chunk (same entities etc)
2020-07-06 00:06:48	yyvwPpI7BO_	I wanted to compare the Heightmaps but I forgot that JS doesn't support longs
2020-07-06 00:06:50	yyvwPpI7BO_	-_-
2020-07-06 00:08:00	yyvwPpI7BO_	Ok no it returns the same value as NBTExplorer
2020-07-06 00:08:06	yyvwPpI7BO_	The correct one I assume
2020-07-06 00:08:10	yyvwPpI7BO_	Unsurprisingly
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2020-07-06 00:11:02	rom1504	ok so now you know you have to debug it :)
2020-07-06 00:11:25	yyvwPpI7BO_	I have to admit that I don't really understand the source
2020-07-06 00:11:57	yyvwPpI7BO_	I assume that the offset is being read here https://github.com/PrismarineJS/prismarine-provider-anvil/blob/b873f4b2034b6d6c6f390dcf4b0d3ed2df121a79/src/region.js#L70
2020-07-06 00:12:03	rom1504	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/prismarine-provider-anvil/blob/master/src/anvil.js that's the only thing this loadRaw is doing
2020-07-06 00:12:13	yyvwPpI7BO_	But this reads 4 bytes and it should be only 3
2020-07-06 00:12:23	yyvwPpI7BO_	There is a >> 8 under that
2020-07-06 00:12:38	yyvwPpI7BO_	But I don't know what this.sectorFree is supposed to be
2020-07-06 00:13:53	rom1504	I don't really remember the details of that region.js
2020-07-06 00:13:58	rom1504	mostly remember I translated https://pastebin.com/niWTqLvk
2020-07-06 00:14:56	rom1504	ah yeah
2020-07-06 00:15:09	rom1504	I think sectors are just chunks
2020-07-06 00:15:11	yyvwPpI7BO_	Oh I see
2020-07-06 00:15:12	yyvwPpI7BO_	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/prismarine-provider-anvil/blob/b873f4b2034b6d6c6f390dcf4b0d3ed2df121a79/src/region.js#L109
2020-07-06 00:15:22	yyvwPpI7BO_	This is where it's actually being extracted
2020-07-06 00:15:48	yyvwPpI7BO_	This does look similar enough to what I'm doing
2020-07-06 00:16:07	yyvwPpI7BO_	I'll try putting a logging thingy there to see what value it actually returns
2020-07-06 00:21:13	yyvwPpI7BO_	It's exactly the same as my program...
2020-07-06 00:29:42	yyvwPpI7BO_	Ok I guess I'll try parsing every chunk in the region file and looking for the one I want and then checking where it's at
2020-07-06 00:47:48	yyvwPpI7BO_	Well for what it's worth, I found the error and feel pretty dumb now
2020-07-06 00:47:58	yyvwPpI7BO_	But anyways thanks for the help
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2020-07-06 00:52:48	rom1504	what was the error ?
2020-07-06 00:53:29	rom1504	it's almost always a stupid error that takes 3h to debug :)
2020-07-06 00:57:12	yyvwPpI7BO_	I was reading from the wrong buffer
2020-07-06 00:57:46	yyvwPpI7BO_	I actually read the offsets correctly but then read from the start of the file instead of from the start of the chunk data
2020-07-06 00:58:29	yyvwPpI7BO_	And coincidentally it seems like this was still parsable somehow
2020-07-06 01:19:02	rom1504	interesting
2020-07-06 01:19:10	rom1504	glad it's solved !
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2020-07-06 09:28:50	Not-944e	[minecraft-data] Naomi-alt 16daba7 - Update instruments.json from 1.13 onward
2020-07-06 09:28:51	Not-944e	[minecraft-data] rom1504 6e5241d - Merge pull request #305 from Naomi-alt/master Update instruments.json from 1.13 onward
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2020-07-06 13:00:25	yyvwPpI7BO_	I'm having a problem with parsing chunk heightmap data, did the way of doing it change from 1.15.2 to 1.16? Following the advice in https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Talk:Chunk_format#Parsing_Heightmaps_field_.281.15.2.29 and using the leftmost bit as the rightmost bit for the next long doesn't really work, I only get realistic results when discarding the last bit and only using 63 bits for 7 values. I'm just not sure if it's a 
2020-07-06 13:00:33	yyvwPpI7BO_	coincidence that it gives me reasonable results now or actually the correct way of doing it.
2020-07-06 13:04:07	circuit10	I think it changed so it wouldn't store data across 64-bit values or something (or maybe I'm thinking of something else)
2020-07-06 13:04:30	yyvwPpI7BO_	Yeah, that seems to be exactly it
2020-07-06 13:05:11	yyvwPpI7BO_	The array contains 37 longs instead of 36 longs now, but I couldn't find this documented anywhere
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2020-07-06 16:16:27	circuit10	I spend way too much time on this
2020-07-06 16:16:30	circuit10	https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705480156092825630/729702314427809842/unknown.png
2020-07-06 16:16:33	circuit10	*spent
2020-07-06 16:17:09	circuit10_	I didn't actually ping D*nnerbone, that was a test channel
2020-07-06 16:17:29	circuit10_	Oops, this is the wrong account
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2020-07-06 16:36:52	circuit10_	```test```
2020-07-06 16:37:17	circuit10_	Sorry, wrong channel
2020-07-06 16:43:02	circuit10	I just realised that IRCcloud supports proper code blocks
2020-07-06 17:18:40	--	bswartz1 est maintenant connu sous le nom bswartz
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2020-07-06 21:40:17	Not-944e	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JJLzo
2020-07-06 21:40:18	Not-944e	[mineflayer] Naomi-alt 118cea6 - Fix noteHeard event not working in 1.13 and above (#1115) * Fix noteHeard event not working in 1.13 and above * Fix formatting
2020-07-06 22:33:28	Not-944e	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 6 commits to master [+0/-0/±26] https://git.io/JJLVT
2020-07-06 22:33:30	Not-944e	[mineflayer] rom1504 d506192 - Merge pull request #1102 from PrismarineJS/1.16 1.16 support
2020-07-06 22:35:33	Not-944e	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JJLVO
2020-07-06 22:35:35	Not-944e	[mineflayer] rom1504 2c5e263 - Release 2.23.0
2020-07-06 22:36:11	Not-944e	[mineflayer] github-actions[bot] tagged 2c5e263 as 2.23.0 https://git.io/JJLV3
2020-07-06 22:51:46	-->	Unarelith (~Quent4234@5-51-160-161.abo.bbox.fr) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2020-07-07 06:14:14	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2020-07-07 09:41:38	-->	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-07 11:28:20	<--	Thinkofname (~Think@167.172.50.173) a quitté (Quit: Leaving)
2020-07-07 11:32:30	-->	Thinkofname (~Think@167.172.50.173) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-07 11:32:30	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Thinkofname] par ChanServ
2020-07-07 15:26:34	<--	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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2020-07-07 17:53:24	-->	islender (~islender@195.153.70.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-07 17:53:24	-->	None4U (~None4U@195.153.70.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2020-07-08 00:43:47	<--	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gnfxpgcsacqwkgdt) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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2020-07-08 01:01:32	-->	Unarelith (~Quent4234@5-51-160-161.abo.bbox.fr) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2020-07-08 02:10:36	tktech	If folks want to translate their MC-related projects, or collaborate on translating wiki content, feel free to use https://accent.tktech.dev
2020-07-08 02:24:33	Sainan	I hope it's as good as Crowdin, but what happened to tkte.ch?
2020-07-08 02:27:01	tktech	Nothing, tkte.ch and tktech.dev just host different things.
2020-07-08 02:29:19	tktech	Most tkte.ch content is stuff I wrote and hosted on AWS with failover, most tktech.dev stuff is hosted on a colo in Canada and if that stuff goes down for a bit who cares
2020-07-08 02:31:15	Sainan	for enough, I just think domain hacks are cooler and since you're using subdomains I don't think you need that discrimination
2020-07-08 02:34:32	tktech	It makes my life easier. tktech.dev uses less secure wildcards which requires allowing certbot DNS credentials. It uses different MX records for internal mailing.
2020-07-08 02:38:43	tktech	One is on Google, one is on Route 53. One uses wildcards, ELB for SSL termination, AWS-issued certificates, one uses none of that.
2020-07-08 02:40:04	Sainan	and I bet the one that doesn't rely on all those stinkers is has just as much uptime but is 5-10 times cheaper to run ;)
2020-07-08 05:37:52	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@p200300cf37172c007a69f23d89291c16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
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2020-07-08 14:40:16	-->	None4U (~None4U@188.41.72.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-08 14:50:36	<--	charims (~quassel@wsip-24-234-28-130.lv.lv.cox.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
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2020-07-08 16:05:16	-->	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@4.251.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-08 16:05:16	-->	None4U (~None4U@4.251.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2020-07-08 18:00:02	Not-944e	[McUpdates] Minecraft snapshot 20w28a has just been published to the launcher!
2020-07-08 18:00:14	Not-944e	[McUpdates] Data generated by 20w28a: https://apimon.de/mcdata/20w28a/
2020-07-08 18:00:23	Not-944e	[minecraft-data] automatic-beyond-belief pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JJqoG
2020-07-08 18:00:25	Not-944e	[minecraft-data] automatic-beyond-belief a637148 - Add 20w28a to common/protocolVersions.json
2020-07-08 18:07:59	Not-944e	[Burger] New data now avaliable for 20w28a:
2020-07-08 18:08:01	Not-944e	[Burger] Diff from 20w27a: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_20w27a_20w28a.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_20w27a_20w28a.json)
2020-07-08 18:08:02	Not-944e	[Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/20w28a.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/20w28a.json)
2020-07-08 21:48:16	-->	Intelli (sid46069@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wdatmqcrehphrjnj) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-08 21:59:29	-->	Fenhl (sid30770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nubpksothmstiyee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-08 21:59:29	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Fenhl] par ChanServ
2020-07-08 22:20:13	-->	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bnkrsgmnubwtbanj) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-08 22:22:09	-->	Brandon15811 (sid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzfdvocrcwafnzyc) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-08 22:54:27	<--	None4U (~None4U@4.251.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
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2020-07-08 23:01:21	-->	circuit10 (~circuit10@70.223.223.35.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2020-07-09 00:31:45	Not-944e	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 4 commits to master [+2/-0/±12] https://git.io/JJqHC
2020-07-09 00:31:47	Not-944e	[mineflayer] Naomi-alt 97ad2fa - Add ability to change the skin parts of a bot
2020-07-09 00:31:49	Not-944e	[mineflayer] Naomi-alt 127a988 - Group all the skin parts in a skinPart object
2020-07-09 00:31:50	Not-944e	[mineflayer] Naomi-alt 519ac69 - Add skin_blinker example
2020-07-09 00:31:52	Not-944e	[mineflayer] rom1504 7b47f00 - Merge pull request #1122 from Naomi-alt/feature-skin-layers Add ability to change the skin parts of a bot
2020-07-09 01:50:53	<--	Not-944e (~notifico@ec2-52-3-50-241.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
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2020-07-09 10:40:48	circuit10	Shouldn't https://wiki.vg/Protocol be updated to 1.16?
2020-07-09 11:24:59	KennyTV	I updated wiki's multi block change section (based on what works in Via's reading https://i.imgur.com/ic9BwYv.png https://i.imgur.com/Zy4taBE.png)
2020-07-09 16:00:31	<--	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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2020-07-09 16:22:55	-->	Alex_ (~alex@2606-a000-1218-c661-ad16-ce51-64bb-5257.inf6.spectrum.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 16:23:49	--	Alex_ est maintenant connu sous le nom AlexCalder
2020-07-09 16:26:50	AlexCalder	Does anyone know how to set the flying-squid world generation to flat?
2020-07-09 17:09:03	-->	Nick88 (56e95dca@lfbn-poi-1-378-202.w86-233.abo.wanadoo.fr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 17:11:20	Nick88	Hi, there's a mistake on the description of the position type, the Z and the Y have been swapped. I don't have an account to correct it, but can someone do it?
2020-07-09 17:14:56	Sainan	You can just create an account, but which description do you mean exactly?
2020-07-09 17:17:59	Nick88	This https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Position
2020-07-09 17:18:22	Nick88	I don't know how to change all the pages at once.
2020-07-09 17:18:33	Sainan	It is accurate tho
2020-07-09 17:18:56	Nick88	I've tested several times, I can show you.
2020-07-09 17:19:18	Nick88	I use 1.8.9, vanilla.
2020-07-09 17:19:37	Sainan	The wiki is up-to-date
2020-07-09 17:19:42	Sainan	The 1.8 is like 5 years old?
2020-07-09 17:20:20	Sainan	https://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Data_types&diff=14906&oldid=14345
2020-07-09 17:21:05	Nick88	https://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Protocol&oldid=7368#Position
2020-07-09 17:21:12	Nick88	This is page of the 1.8
2020-07-09 17:21:36	<--	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@70.223.223.35.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
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2020-07-09 17:21:39	Nick88	And this is information that is not valid for 1.8.
2020-07-09 17:21:53	Sainan	The protocol page embeds the "Data types" page and this embed is always up-to-date, even in that historic view
2020-07-09 17:22:14	Nick88	Ah, that's a problem...
2020-07-09 17:23:25	-->	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@89.173.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 17:23:26	-->	islender (~islender@89.173.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 17:23:26	-->	None4U (~None4U@89.173.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 17:23:26	-->	circuit10 (~circuit10@89.173.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 17:31:02	Sainan	Since a couple of people have had this issue: https://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Data_types&diff=15919&oldid=15808
2020-07-09 17:36:34	Nick88	That's cool, maybe you should add in the "latest" protocol. However, the update does not reflect on the old pages.
2020-07-09 17:37:15	Sainan	Of course it does, otherwise you wouldn't have this issue in the first place, it's just cached now.
2020-07-09 17:38:03	Nick88	Oh, all right.
2020-07-09 18:16:19	<--	islender (~islender@89.173.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
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2020-07-09 18:19:48	-->	None4U (~None4U@21.147.66.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 18:19:48	-->	circuit10 (~circuit10@21.147.66.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 18:19:49	-->	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@21.147.66.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 18:19:49	-->	islender (~islender@21.147.66.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 18:20:32	<--	AlexCalder (~alex@2606-a000-1218-c661-ad16-ce51-64bb-5257.inf6.spectrum.com) a quitté
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2020-07-09 18:48:25	-->	Andrio- (Andrio@questers-rest.andriocelos.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 18:48:33	-->	wlp1s1 (iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 18:55:30	<--	chibill (chibillmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-atwgcigidipkuuxa) a quitté (*.net *.split)
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2020-07-09 18:55:53	--	Andrio- est maintenant connu sous le nom Andrio
2020-07-09 18:56:46	<--	JuniorJPDJ (juniorjp1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lroppomtwfwsihlg) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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2020-07-09 18:58:43	-->	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 18:58:43	-->	NickG365 (~NickG365@2607:5300:60:6e29:472:6425:3733:0) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 18:58:43	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-09 19:03:09	-->	JuniorJPDJ (juniorjp1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-cvojgbejlgxkahlf) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2020-07-09 19:28:04	-->	chibill (chibillmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ihsbunbbpqhvabme) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2020-07-09 22:17:54	-->	GeorgH93 (~GeorgH93@h081217042019.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 22:32:12	<--	None4U (~None4U@21.147.66.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2020-07-09 22:32:12	<--	circuit10 (~circuit10@21.147.66.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2020-07-09 22:32:12	<--	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@21.147.66.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2020-07-09 22:32:12	<--	islender (~islender@21.147.66.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2020-07-09 22:32:50	--	csnxs est maintenant connu sous le nom DrinkyBird
2020-07-09 22:34:57	-->	circuit10 (~circuit10@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 22:34:57	-->	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 22:34:57	-->	None4U (~None4U@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 22:34:57	-->	islender (~islender@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 23:18:31	<--	niceplace (~nplace@198.204.231.148) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2020-07-09 23:18:44	-->	niceplace (~nplace@37.120.142.134) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-09 23:26:49	-->	Guest80587 (~notifico@ec2-52-3-50-241.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 00:57:43	<--	Dadido3_ (~quassel@p200300d9df3b2900f5e6c13fa333d097.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2020-07-10 00:59:31	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300d9df3b2900404428f19cb80b04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 02:45:31	-->	VADemon (~VADemon@2a01:4f8:212:2f1d:88::41) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 03:05:46	<--	GeorgH93 (~GeorgH93@h081217042019.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) a quitté (Quit: Leaving)
2020-07-10 03:38:12	--	wlp1s1 est maintenant connu sous le nom iczero
2020-07-10 05:45:14	<--	VADemon (~VADemon@2a01:4f8:212:2f1d:88::41) a quitté (Quit: left4dead)
2020-07-10 06:08:32	<--	e (e@freenode/staff/spy.edk) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:35	<--	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:35	<--	NickG365 (~NickG365@2607:5300:60:6e29:472:6425:3733:0) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:35	<--	circuit10 (~circuit10@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:35	<--	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:35	<--	None4U (~None4U@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:35	<--	islender (~islender@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:35	<--	Guest80587 (~notifico@ec2-52-3-50-241.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:35	<--	mrkirby153 (~mrkirby15@mrkirby153.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:35	<--	MisterVector (Vector@cpe-172-90-152-76.socal.res.rr.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:35	<--	Luck (~Luck@51.89.139.51) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:36	<--	deltab (~deltab@95.154.230.49) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:38	<--	Akkarin (~Akkarin@hyperion.torchmind.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:38	<--	ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:39	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:39	<--	__0x277E (~Hex@four.out.of.five.doctors.recommend.hex.lc) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:39	<--	Morrolan (morrolan@139.162.178.137) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:39	<--	vemacse (~vemacs@192.3.17.176) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:39	<--	Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:39	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300d9df3b2900404428f19cb80b04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	Plancke (~Plancke@2604:a880:400:d0::d58:e001) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	bigfoot547 (bigfoot@unaffiliated/bigfoot547) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	kashike (kashike@unaffiliated/kashike) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	ecx (~ecx@unaffiliated/ecx) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	Pyker (~pyker@hexagon.pyker.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	EvilJStoker (jstoker@unaffiliated/jstoker) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	SupaHam (~SupaHam@supaham.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	offbeatwitch (~offbeatwi@2001:bc8:604:343::1) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	craftxbox (~craftxbox@unaffiliated/craftxbox) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	asdew (~asdew@dsl-hkibng11-50dc43-88.dhcp.inet.fi) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	RoboMWM (~RoboMWM@tf.robomwm.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:40	<--	Tux (~tux@unaffiliated/tux) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:41	<--	chibill (chibillmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ihsbunbbpqhvabme) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:42	<--	Adam (Adam@unaffiliated/adam-) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:43	<--	vemacs (~vemacs@unaffiliated/vemacs) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:43	<--	GingerGeek (~Zed@unaffiliated/gingergeek) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:43	<--	Proximyst (~Proximyst@freya.proximyst.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:43	<--	matthewprenger (~matthewpr@136.33.177.190) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:43	<--	Fador (fador@hentai.fi) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:43	<--	saper (saper@wikipedia/saper) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:43	<--	niceplace (~nplace@37.120.142.134) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:43	<--	Thinkofname (~Think@167.172.50.173) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:43	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@156.146.37.26) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	ddevault (znc@sourcehut/staff/ddevault) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	Wanderer (~wanderer@unaffiliated/wanderer) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	kev009 (~kev009@ip72-222-200-117.ph.ph.cox.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	electronicboy (~electroni@atlas.valaria.pw) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	Prf_Jakob (jakob@volt/developer/jakob) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	MiniDigger (~MiniDigge@electroniccat.smells.minidigger.me) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	ammar2 (admin@i.diddled.with.the.opers.so.they.klined.me) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	clonejo (~clonejo@shakik3.shakik.de) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	x10A94 (~x@207.154.230.175) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	spirit (~spirit@233.ip-144-217-92.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	Sainan (~Sai@static.222.155.69.159.clients.your-server.de) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	KennyTV (~KennyTV@static.162.124.47.78.clients.your-server.de) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	Tuxel (~tux@80.77.26.7) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	dranghek (~darngeek@bouncer.pocketmine.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:44	<--	Anna (anna@borealis.voxelstorm.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:45	<--	switchy (~switchy@unaffiliated/switchy) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:45	<--	Yamakaja (~yamakaja@vps.pub.yamakaja.me) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:45	<--	92AAAQKA8 (~WizardCM@103.93.232.3) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:46	<--	JuniorJPDJ (juniorjp1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-cvojgbejlgxkahlf) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:46	<--	Guest76055 (znc@2400:6180:0:d0::64f:9001) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:46	<--	Disconsented (~quassel@disconsented.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:47	<--	yangm (yanyetanot@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rcxazwlfzyhtwekk) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:47	<--	Intelli (sid46069@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wdatmqcrehphrjnj) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:47	<--	md_5 (~md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:47	<--	Karyon (~Karyon@unaffiliated/karyon) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:47	<--	dav1d (~dav1d@volt/developer/dav1d) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:47	<--	DrinkyBird (~sean@unaffiliated/plussean) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:47	<--	AndrewPH_ (~Butts@2606:db00:0:62e::b) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:47	<--	Processus42 (~leo@unaffiliated/processus42) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:47	<--	I9hdkill_ (~quassel@2001:41d0:d:1cb7::) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	killme (~killmePI@185.9.253.124) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	m0r13 (~m0r13@mail.yellow-ray.de) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	gabizou (~gabizou@69.147.207.130) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	Dykam (~Dykam@dykam.nl) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	iczero (iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	charims (~quassel@wsip-24-234-28-130.lv.lv.cox.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	willies952002 (~willies95@irc.domnian.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	bswartz (~bswartz@unaffiliated/bswartz) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	shoghicp (~shoghicp@bouncer.pocketmine.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@c-73-116-110-236.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	levifig (~levi@205.186.144.152) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	StackDoubleFlow (~StackDoub@45-29-51-69.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	Steve42 (~Steve42@pool-96-241-222-61.washdc.fios.verizon.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	pokechu22 (~pokechu22@50-47-111-46.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	dexter0 (~dexter0@c-73-222-1-210.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	peterix-w (quassel@quassel.woboq.de) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:48	<--	ashka (~postmaste@pdpc/supporter/active/ashka) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:49	<--	tktech (~tktech@ec2-52-70-105-60.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:49	<--	simon816 (~simon816@ec2-35-178-246-72.eu-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:49	<--	humerusj (~humerusj@unaffiliated/humerusj) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:49	<--	jamierocks (~jamie@167.99.87.71) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:50	<--	Brandon15811 (sid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzfdvocrcwafnzyc) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:50	<--	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bnkrsgmnubwtbanj) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:50	<--	keg[m] (kegicyname@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-nyccyeqeruzsozkt) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:51	<--	Andrio (Andrio@questers-rest.andriocelos.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:51	<--	Fenhl (sid30770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nubpksothmstiyee) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:51	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:51	<--	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:51	<--	Techcable (znc@irc.techcable.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:51	<--	laxask (~lax@unaffiliated/laxask) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:52	<--	mrarm_ (~mrarm@unaffiliated/mrarm) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:08:52	<--	Dinnerbone (dinnerbone@i.like.butts.and.my.name.is.dinnerbone.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	ddevault (znc@sourcehut/staff/ddevault) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	GingerGeek (~Zed@unaffiliated/gingergeek) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	vemacs (~vemacs@unaffiliated/vemacs) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Adam (Adam@unaffiliated/adam-) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	chibill (chibillmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ihsbunbbpqhvabme) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	saper (saper@wikipedia/saper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Fador (fador@hentai.fi) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	matthewprenger (~matthewpr@136.33.177.190) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Proximyst (~Proximyst@freya.proximyst.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	niceplace (~nplace@37.120.142.134) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Dykam (~Dykam@dykam.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	gabizou (~gabizou@69.147.207.130) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	m0r13 (~m0r13@mail.yellow-ray.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	killme (~killmePI@185.9.253.124) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	iczero (iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Andrio (Andrio@questers-rest.andriocelos.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Brandon15811 (sid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzfdvocrcwafnzyc) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bnkrsgmnubwtbanj) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	charims (~quassel@wsip-24-234-28-130.lv.lv.cox.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	mrarm_ (~mrarm@unaffiliated/mrarm) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Akkarin (~Akkarin@hyperion.torchmind.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Disconsented (~quassel@disconsented.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Guest76055 (znc@2400:6180:0:d0::64f:9001) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	willies952002 (~willies95@irc.domnian.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	jamierocks (~jamie@167.99.87.71) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	humerusj (~humerusj@unaffiliated/humerusj) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	simon816 (~simon816@ec2-35-178-246-72.eu-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	tktech (~tktech@ec2-52-70-105-60.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	ashka (~postmaste@pdpc/supporter/active/ashka) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	peterix-w (quassel@quassel.woboq.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	dexter0 (~dexter0@c-73-222-1-210.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	pokechu22 (~pokechu22@50-47-111-46.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	--	Mode #mcdevs [+vvov ddevault Fador ChanServ pokechu22] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Steve42 (~Steve42@pool-96-241-222-61.washdc.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	StackDoubleFlow (~StackDoub@45-29-51-69.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	levifig (~levi@205.186.144.152) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@c-73-116-110-236.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	shoghicp (~shoghicp@bouncer.pocketmine.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	bswartz (~bswartz@unaffiliated/bswartz) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Techcable (znc@irc.techcable.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	laxask (~lax@unaffiliated/laxask) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	-->	Dinnerbone (dinnerbone@i.like.butts.and.my.name.is.dinnerbone.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:12:59	--	Mode #mcdevs [+vv SpaceManiac Dinnerbone] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-10 06:13:12	-->	asdew (~asdew@dsl-hkibng11-50dc43-88.dhcp.inet.fi) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:12	-->	RoboMWM (~RoboMWM@tf.robomwm.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:12	-->	Tux (~tux@unaffiliated/tux) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:24	-->	Intelli (sid46069@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wdatmqcrehphrjnj) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:24	-->	md_5 (~md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:24	-->	Karyon (~Karyon@unaffiliated/karyon) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:24	-->	dav1d (~dav1d@volt/developer/dav1d) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:24	-->	DrinkyBird (~sean@unaffiliated/plussean) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:24	-->	AndrewPH_ (~Butts@2606:db00:0:62e::b) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:24	-->	Processus42 (~leo@unaffiliated/processus42) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:24	-->	I9hdkill_ (~quassel@2001:41d0:d:1cb7::) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:24	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v md_5] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-10 06:13:39	-->	spirit (~spirit@233.ip-144-217-92.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:39	-->	Sainan (~Sai@static.222.155.69.159.clients.your-server.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:39	-->	switchy (~switchy@unaffiliated/switchy) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:39	-->	KennyTV (~KennyTV@static.162.124.47.78.clients.your-server.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:39	-->	Tuxel (~tux@80.77.26.7) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:39	-->	dranghek (~darngeek@bouncer.pocketmine.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:39	-->	Anna (anna@borealis.voxelstorm.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:39	-->	Yamakaja (~yamakaja@vps.pub.yamakaja.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:39	-->	92AAAQKA8 (~WizardCM@103.93.232.3) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:48	-->	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:48	-->	NickG365 (~NickG365@2607:5300:60:6e29:472:6425:3733:0) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:13:48	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-10 06:14:14	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300d9df3b2900404428f19cb80b04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:14	-->	Plancke (~Plancke@2604:a880:400:d0::d58:e001) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:14	-->	bigfoot547 (bigfoot@unaffiliated/bigfoot547) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:14	-->	kashike (kashike@unaffiliated/kashike) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:14	-->	ecx (~ecx@unaffiliated/ecx) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:14	-->	Pyker (~pyker@hexagon.pyker.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:14	-->	EvilJStoker (jstoker@unaffiliated/jstoker) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:14	-->	SupaHam (~SupaHam@supaham.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:14	-->	offbeatwitch (~offbeatwi@2001:bc8:604:343::1) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:14	-->	craftxbox (~craftxbox@unaffiliated/craftxbox) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:26	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:26	-->	__0x277E (~Hex@four.out.of.five.doctors.recommend.hex.lc) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:26	-->	Morrolan (morrolan@139.162.178.137) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:26	-->	vemacse (~vemacs@192.3.17.176) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:26	-->	Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:36	-->	Wanderer (~wanderer@unaffiliated/wanderer) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:36	-->	kev009 (~kev009@ip72-222-200-117.ph.ph.cox.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:36	-->	electronicboy (~electroni@atlas.valaria.pw) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:36	-->	Prf_Jakob (jakob@volt/developer/jakob) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:36	-->	MiniDigger (~MiniDigge@electroniccat.smells.minidigger.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:36	-->	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:36	-->	ammar2 (admin@i.diddled.with.the.opers.so.they.klined.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:36	-->	clonejo (~clonejo@shakik3.shakik.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:36	-->	x10A94 (~x@207.154.230.175) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:36	--	Mode #mcdevs [+vvv kev009 Prf_Jakob ammar2] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-10 06:14:48	-->	Thinkofname (~Think@167.172.50.173) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:48	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@156.146.37.26) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:14:48	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Thinkofname] par moon.freenode.net
2020-07-10 06:15:01	-->	deltab_ (~deltab@95.154.230.49) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:01	-->	Guest80587 (~notifico@ec2-52-3-50-241.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:01	-->	islender (~islender@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:01	-->	None4U (~None4U@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:01	-->	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:01	-->	circuit10 (~circuit10@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:01	-->	mrkirby153 (~mrkirby15@mrkirby153.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:01	-->	MisterVector (Vector@cpe-172-90-152-76.socal.res.rr.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:01	-->	Luck (~Luck@51.89.139.51) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:08	<--	chibill (chibillmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ihsbunbbpqhvabme) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2020-07-10 06:15:11	-->	None4U1 (~None4U@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:11	-->	circuit101 (~circuit10@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:11	-->	SiebeDW1 (~SiebeDW@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:11	-->	islender1 (~islender@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:15	<--	circuit10 (~circuit10@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Write error: Broken pipe)
2020-07-10 06:15:15	<--	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Write error: Broken pipe)
2020-07-10 06:15:15	<--	None4U (~None4U@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Write error: Broken pipe)
2020-07-10 06:15:15	<--	islender (~islender@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Write error: Broken pipe)
2020-07-10 06:15:20	-->	Fenhl (sid30770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:20	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Fenhl] par ChanServ
2020-07-10 06:15:50	<--	Fenhl (sid30770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session) a quitté (Changing host)
2020-07-10 06:15:50	-->	Fenhl (sid30770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dqxiffhhjfqmijpo) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:15:50	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Fenhl] par leguin.freenode.net
2020-07-10 06:18:28	<--	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bnkrsgmnubwtbanj) a quitté (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2020-07-10 06:18:28	-->	edk_ (e@freenode/staff/spy.edk) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:18:59	-->	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tommaavllyjtcxqb) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:22:59	-->	yangm (yanyetanot@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-anyfcdcjfyrclskb) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:47:12	-->	chibill (chibillmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bowahmmhmqipyyts) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:47:13	-->	JuniorJPDJ (juniorjp1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-excvptzslgvwocej) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 06:47:19	-->	keg[m] (kegicyname@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-plxmgzszpeadvfge) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 09:17:42	-->	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 10:47:12	--	edk_ est maintenant connu sous le nom e
2020-07-10 13:23:58	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 13:23:59	<--	__0x277E (~Hex@four.out.of.five.doctors.recommend.hex.lc) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 13:23:59	<--	Morrolan (morrolan@139.162.178.137) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 13:23:59	<--	vemacse (~vemacs@192.3.17.176) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 13:24:00	<--	Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2020-07-10 13:27:34	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 13:27:34	-->	__0x277E (~Hex@four.out.of.five.doctors.recommend.hex.lc) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 13:27:34	-->	Morrolan (morrolan@139.162.178.137) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 13:27:34	-->	vemacse (~vemacs@192.3.17.176) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 13:27:34	-->	Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 15:29:18	<--	ddevault (znc@sourcehut/staff/ddevault) a quitté (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2020-07-10 15:30:43	-->	ddevault (znc@sourcehut/staff/ddevault) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 15:30:43	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v ddevault] par ChanServ
2020-07-10 15:50:14	-->	circuit10_ (uid386904@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-awkjohttyfajatpi) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 15:50:40	-->	lxeiqr (~lxeiqr@188.146.226.103.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 15:53:03	circuit101	Does this work as a code block in most IRC clients?
2020-07-10 15:53:29	circuit101	What about ```this```?
2020-07-10 16:12:26	e	i don't think there's anything resembling a de facto standard for that
2020-07-10 16:15:13	circuit101	I'm asking what works in most things, though
2020-07-10 16:15:21	circuit101	They work in IRCcloud at least
2020-07-10 16:34:31	<--	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2020-07-10 17:59:46	<--	circuit10_ (uid386904@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-awkjohttyfajatpi) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2020-07-10 18:02:27	<--	charims (~quassel@wsip-24-234-28-130.lv.lv.cox.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2020-07-10 20:13:11	+pokechu22	Your bridge removed the backticks around the first one, and left 3 around the second one.  At least Weechat doesn't do anything with code formatting, but it's already running in a (monospaced) terminal for me so there's not much it could do
2020-07-10 20:14:51	circuit101	That was on purpose, that wasn't my bridge...
2020-07-10 20:15:17	circuit101	The first was invisible formatting characters that work on IRCcloud
2020-07-10 20:15:38	circuit101	The second is normal Markdown code blacks
2020-07-10 20:15:41	circuit101	*blocks
2020-07-10 20:16:06	circuit101	https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705480156092825630/731212168426684507/unknown.png
2020-07-10 20:16:44	circuit101	I suppose setting the background would distinguish it, IRC supports that
2020-07-10 20:16:51	circuit101	I think
2020-07-10 20:17:00	+pokechu22	Ah, not a single markdown `inline code` block, ok.  Might be that it is standard, and it just doesn't do anything in my terminal, then
2020-07-10 20:18:09	circuit101	Its not quite standard
2020-07-10 20:18:29	-->	circuit10_ (uid386904@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-myxritxlnrnnnnbu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 20:20:10	circuit101	> This character is a relatively new addition, and was defined by IRCCloud (as of right now, IRCCloud’s the only client that understands this character). However, if you do add monospace capabilities within your client, please use this character as it is already defined and in use.
2020-07-10 20:20:34	circuit101	I though other clients might have implemented it now
2020-07-10 20:22:41	circuit101	I suppose this works as a code block
2020-07-10 20:23:39	Sainan	https://lava.st/bm4ce.png
2020-07-10 20:24:26	circuit101	Hmm
2020-07-10 20:24:40	circuit101	https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705480156092825630/731214323443302460/unknown.png
2020-07-10 20:24:52	circuit101	The colour codes are different?
2020-07-10 20:27:07	--	deltab_ est maintenant connu sous le nom deltab
2020-07-10 20:28:19	 *	Sainan uses "/me" for testing purposes
2020-07-10 20:28:28	circuit101	If I find some universal colour codes and combine it with the monospace character that should work well enough for inline code
2020-07-10 20:31:04	-->	circuit10-2 (~heath@cpc139358-aztw33-2-0-cust1041.18-1.cable.virginm.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 20:33:18	circuit10_	So this should look like inline code in most clients
2020-07-10 20:34:52	Sainan	https://lava.st/b_8v7.png
2020-07-10 20:35:11	circuit101	https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705480156092825630/731216969122054244/unknown.png
2020-07-10 20:35:28	circuit101	https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705480156092825630/731217043600310323/unknown.png
2020-07-10 20:36:16	Sainan	HexChat can do it for the notifico messages with colours, I think the issue is with you
2020-07-10 20:37:03	circuit101	Hmm, it matches https://modern.ircdocs.horse/formatting.html
2020-07-10 20:37:25	circuit101	And Weechat and IRCCloud can do it
2020-07-10 20:37:42	circuit101	I'll get Hexchat to test
2020-07-10 20:38:22	Sainan	I think the issue might be that hexchat refuses background colours
2020-07-10 20:42:38	circuit101	So you can't set the background?
2020-07-10 20:44:41	Sainan	Not if you want it to look proper in all IRC clients
2020-07-10 20:45:50	circuit101	Most IRC clients support it so I'm fine with Hexchat looking a bit strange
2020-07-10 20:47:12	Sainan	HexChat is the most popular IRC client depending on who you ask but okay
2020-07-10 20:49:19	circuit101	Really?
2020-07-10 20:49:25	circuit101	I'll make it look OK there then
2020-07-10 20:50:41	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@2a02:587:6231:7e00:4058:361a:99a:e3a4) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 20:52:56	circuit101	Hmm, Hexchat uses different codes to eveyone else
2020-07-10 20:54:57	Sainan	As I said, it works fine with the notifico messages
2020-07-10 21:03:45	circuit101	Yes, so they obviously use the codes it supports
2020-07-10 21:03:59	circuit101	It only supports colour codes up to 16
2020-07-10 21:04:33	circuit101	But this looks sot of OK on most clients
2020-07-10 21:09:15	Sainan	Still looks broken in HexChat, but better than before: https://lava.st/o3_5q.png
2020-07-10 21:10:46	circuit101	Yep, I tested in Hexchat
2020-07-10 21:10:57	circuit101	That's as good as I can get for now
2020-07-10 21:13:19	circuit101	Or I could just do it like `this` maybe
2020-07-10 21:14:23	circuit101	How it looks with actual code: `console.log("code block")`
2020-07-10 21:15:10	Sainan	That looks perfect in HexChat, does it have something to do with the ` or did you just fix your formatting? :P
2020-07-10 21:15:14	circuit101	Hexchat:
2020-07-10 21:15:14	circuit101	https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705480156092825630/731227047711735808/unknown.png
2020-07-10 21:15:37	circuit101	Weechat:
2020-07-10 21:15:37	circuit101	https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705480156092825630/731227144474329109/unknown.png
2020-07-10 21:16:01	circuit101	IRCCloud:
2020-07-10 21:16:01	circuit101	https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705480156092825630/731227245896794133/unknown.png
2020-07-10 21:17:13	circuit101	> ​That looks perfect in HexChat, does it have something to do with the ` or did you just fix your formatting? :P​​
2020-07-10 21:17:13	circuit101	Nope, I was using the monospace control character for IRCCloud before but I switched to just using ` which looks cleaner than a control character
2020-07-10 21:19:31	-->	Bixilon (~moritz@x4d041a71.dyn.telefonica.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 21:21:14	Bixilon	Having an other problem... Item IDs 1.13+. The slot format has an var int itemId. Why isn't this an Identifier? O thought 1.13 has removed all item IDs. Also if I read the data, I get wrong (or wrong parsed data). I am expecting to get an gold leggings (316) but I get an unknown (533). How to read it and how to get the metadata (aka damaage)?
2020-07-10 21:22:02	Sainan	Didn't I already link you the Data Generators?
2020-07-10 21:22:11	Bixilon	Yes, you did. 
2020-07-10 21:22:12	Sainan	https://apimon.de/mcdata/1.13.2/items.json
2020-07-10 21:22:26	Bixilon	But why is this so?
2020-07-10 21:22:32	Sainan	As you can see: "minecraft:golden_leggings": {
2020-07-10 21:22:32	Sainan	"protocol_id": 533
2020-07-10 21:22:32	Sainan	},
2020-07-10 21:22:52	Bixilon	Okay. I saw this already, but what is which metadata and the original item Id
2020-07-10 21:23:07	Sainan	There's no more metadata
2020-07-10 21:23:13	Bixilon	Why?
2020-07-10 21:23:20	Sainan	Only NBT
2020-07-10 21:23:26	Bixilon	aha. 
2020-07-10 21:23:30	Sainan	I can't speak for Mojang
2020-07-10 21:23:43	Sainan	I assume this system is more scalable
2020-07-10 21:23:53	Bixilon	Any for what are identifiers? 
2020-07-10 21:24:28	Sainan	For your implementation to cross-reference the protocol IDs and for the players to use in commands?
2020-07-10 21:25:13	Bixilon	Why they don't use this in the slot data type?
2020-07-10 21:26:32	Sainan	Less bytes to send over the network
2020-07-10 21:26:41	+pokechu22	They still use numeric IDs over the network; they're just dynamically allocated.  Same happens with block state IDs and the like.
2020-07-10 21:26:59	Bixilon	uff.
2020-07-10 21:27:25	Bixilon	For me that means recoding much...did not know that. 
2020-07-10 21:27:59	<--	circuit10-2 (~heath@cpc139358-aztw33-2-0-cust1041.18-1.cable.virginm.net) a quitté (Quit: WeeChat 2.8)
2020-07-10 21:28:00	+pokechu22	Incidentally, for items that actually have damage (such as gold leggings), there will be additional NBT for it.  But other things (such as wool) have separate IDs for each variant now.
2020-07-10 21:28:23	Bixilon	thanks for the help (again)
2020-07-10 21:28:57	+pokechu22	With the flattening, there no longer is overhead for the block states in doing that, since it doesn't reserve 16 metadata values for every block; each block can have however many states it needs (with wool, 1 per type; with things like fences, a ton more states are used and the server can actually specify the full state instead of the client filling it in)
2020-07-10 21:30:02	Bixilon	I also have an other question about the wiki itself. I often work in the UBahn (metro in english, I think), and I need to cache the wiki locally in the browser (only an open tab). Does anybody known a tool to download a full media wiki (with history)?
2020-07-10 21:30:22	+pokechu22	Take a look at https://wiki.vg/dumps/
2020-07-10 21:31:17	+pokechu22	(though, you'd want to import it to a local mediawiki install or something to use it; manually reading the XML dumps isn't ideal)
2020-07-10 21:31:56	Bixilon	wanted to ask that question :D
2020-07-10 21:32:09	Bixilon	Bit isn't 1.1.19 a bit old?
2020-07-10 21:32:41	Bixilon	oh, thats randomly ordered
2020-07-10 21:32:46	Bixilon	(part of)
2020-07-10 21:33:04	Sainan	YYYY-MM-DD gang rise up
2020-07-10 21:33:47	Bixilon	jip. that would make more sense
2020-07-10 21:35:34	<--	SiebeDW1 (~SiebeDW@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2020-07-10 21:35:35	<--	circuit101 (~circuit10@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2020-07-10 21:35:35	<--	islender1 (~islender@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2020-07-10 21:35:35	<--	None4U1 (~None4U@152.230.67.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2020-07-10 21:39:56	-->	None4U (~None4U@161.62.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 21:39:56	-->	SiebeDW (~SiebeDW@161.62.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 21:39:56	-->	islender (~islender@161.62.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 21:39:57	-->	circuit10 (~circuit10@161.62.69.34.bc.googleusercontent.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2020-07-10 22:10:26	Bixilon	Hmm. After importing the "Vorlage" is missing. (I think you call it template). Is this normal?
2020-07-10 22:22:01	Bixilon	Sainan: How does the original minecraft client saves the block ids? does it use an enum or an json file? And where is this located?
2020-07-10 22:24:16	Sainan	Are you asking about how the Data Generators?
2020-07-10 22:24:22	Bixilon	Yes
2020-07-10 22:25:00	Sainan	You can generate the same JSON files you see at https://apimon.de/mcdata/ with the server of the respective version: https://wiki.vg/Data_Generators
2020-07-10 22:25:47	Bixilon	That wasn't my question. I read the wiki article. I mean: how does the notchian server uses the data. 
2020-07-10 22:29:46	Sainan	I have no idea about the Notchian implementation (although I'm sure you could decompile it if you want to know) but I guess it's for commands like /give and /setblock
2020-07-10 22:30:31	Bixilon	Decompiling classes like zz.java? No way :D I will be 90y old, if I start with this :)
2020-07-10 22:30:55	Sainan	MCP exists
2020-07-10 22:31:22	Bixilon	LOL
2020-07-10 22:32:43	Bixilon	Did not know that...
2020-07-10 22:32:52	Bixilon	I will stay 16 forever :)
2020-07-10 22:33:33	Bixilon	Why is on apimoon only 1.13+?
2020-07-10 22:34:36	Sainan	because that's when the flattening nation attacked
2020-07-10 22:34:50	Sainan	and the data generators started being a thing
2020-07-10 22:34:55	Bixilon	aha.
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2020-07-11 02:45:07	StackOtter	hi, i'm working on deserialising chunk data packets from a 1.15.2 server and it seems like the page on the wiki for the packet might be outdated (https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Chunk_Data). i looked at the reverse engineered source code for the chunk packet used by spigot and it also seems to be using a different format. the first 4 fields seem correct
2020-07-11 02:45:07	StackOtter	(chunkX, chunkZ, fullChunk and primaryBitMask) but from what i can see, the 1.15.2 server sends some sort of uuid after that instead of the heightmaps. does anyone have experience with chunk packets that could confirm this? thanks :)
2020-07-11 02:45:54	+pokechu22	I don't think there was ever a UUID field; it should be up-to-date for 1.15.2 (there are changes in 1.16 listed on the pre-release protocol page though)
2020-07-11 02:46:57	StackOtter	ok thanks, i'll look into it a bit further then and try and figure out what's going on
2020-07-11 02:49:59	+pokechu22	1.15.2, PacketPlayOutMapChunk, `packetdataserializer.a(this.d)` where this.d is `private NBTTagCompound d`.  I think you're getting confused by method overloads
2020-07-11 02:54:15	StackOtter	in packetdataserializer a is this: `public PacketDataSerializer a(UUID uuid)` i think. i'm probably just reading the code wrong though 
2020-07-11 02:56:06	+pokechu22	a is also this: `public PacketDataSerializer a(@Nullable NBTTagCompound nbttagcompound)`
2020-07-11 02:57:52	StackOtter	cool, thanks, anyway i think the problem is my nbt deserialiser
2020-07-11 02:59:26	+pokechu22	Java lets you have multiple methods with the same name as long as types differ, and spigot's toolchain doesn't undo that (MCP/forge's, though, does by assigning each method a unique ID, so func_179252_a and func_150786_a for instance, and nearly all of those have meaningful names such as writeUniqueId and writeCompoundTag beyond that.  But it's a bit harder to set up for examining code.)
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2020-07-11 03:00:20	rtm516	Have you looked at https://github.com/Steveice10/MCProtocolLib/tree/1.15.2-1 ?
2020-07-11 03:00:25	StackOtter	yeah ok, that makes sense, i'll look out for that in the future
2020-07-11 03:01:04	StackOtter	thanks, i might look at that code if i get stuck again
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2020-07-11 07:14:01	StackOtter	i've got the chunk deserialised pretty much, but it looks like the biome ids are sent in little endian, is this right or is my alignment just off by three?
2020-07-11 07:14:38	StackOtter	i can't tell cause the biome ids are never above 256 in vanilla by the looks of things so it never uses more than one of the 4 bytes
2020-07-11 07:15:09	+pokechu22	Uhh, I think it should be big endian, one moment
2020-07-11 07:15:26	StackOtter	i would've thought so too
2020-07-11 07:17:28	+pokechu22	Both reading biomes and reading the x/z coordinates use the same readInt method, so it should still be big endian.  You might be off by 3 then.
2020-07-11 07:18:53	StackOtter	yeah, ok :( time to debug my nbt decoder again
2020-07-11 07:42:53	iczero	is anyone here familiar with node-minecraft-protocol?
2020-07-11 07:44:02	iczero	i keep getting a protocol error and since protodef uses eval i don't really know how to debug it
2020-07-11 07:44:05	iczero	> TypeError: Deserialization error for play.toClient : Read error for undefined : Cannot destructure property 'value' of 'ctx.entityMetadataItem(...)' as it is undefined.
2020-07-11 07:44:46	iczero	it seems rather rare
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