2019-03-22 13:14:33	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2019-03-22 13:14:34	<--	Plancke (~Plancke@2604:a880:400:d0::d58:e001) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2019-03-22 13:14:34	<--	AndrewPH (Butts@omega.classicube.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2019-03-22 13:14:37	--	Plancke_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Plancke
2019-03-22 13:16:50	<--	dexter0 (~dexter0@c-73-222-1-210.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-03-22 13:19:28	-->	dexter0 (~dexter0@2601:647:4500:700:7c:10ff:fe00:110b) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-22 13:32:07	<--	codecat (~codecat@171.217.50.250) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-03-22 14:02:57	-->	codecat_ (~codecat_@171.217.50.250) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-22 14:03:02	codecat_	hello?
2019-03-22 14:07:24	-->	AlexNagySchool (~jnagyjr@69.8.163.48) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-22 14:10:06	<--	codecat_ (~codecat_@171.217.50.250) a quitté #mcdevs
2019-03-22 14:11:07	-->	codecat (~codecat@171.217.50.250) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-22 14:11:24	<--	codecat (~codecat@171.217.50.250) a quitté #mcdevs
2019-03-22 14:11:47	-->	codecat (~codecat@171.217.50.250) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-22 14:12:17	<--	codecat (~codecat@171.217.50.250) a quitté #mcdevs
2019-03-22 14:12:37	-->	codecat (~codecat@171.217.50.250) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-22 14:25:31	<--	codecat (~codecat@171.217.50.250) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2019-03-22 19:38:48	<--	AlexNagySchool (~jnagyjr@69.8.163.48) a quitté (Quit: Leaving)
2019-03-22 19:54:35	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004CEA03100099039A9B7758FCCF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2019-03-22 19:58:34	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004CEA03100099A6C5A1A7A73837.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-23 01:18:02	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-23 06:56:18	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-23 06:57:53	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-252-55-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2019-03-23 06:58:33	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-252-55-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-23 06:58:49	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2019-03-23 06:58:50	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-03-23 09:52:56	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004CEA03100099A6C5A1A7A73837.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Quit: Of course we scientists have our little secrets. For instance, the moon is in Spain. Another: stars aren't real. Also, cells are huge. One cell is roughly the size of a marble.)
2019-03-23 13:51:45	--	Raqbit9 est maintenant connu sous le nom Raqbit
2019-03-23 18:55:26	--	ammar_ est maintenant connu sous le nom ammar2
2019-03-23 23:37:33	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:2983:9ae7:cf50:24db) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-24 02:58:06	<--	DemonWav_ (~DemonWav@unaffiliated/demonwav) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-03-24 02:58:53	-->	DemonWav (~DemonWav@unaffiliated/demonwav) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-24 06:56:09	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-24 06:57:47	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-24 06:57:48	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-03-24 09:55:14	-->	codecat (~codecat@171.217.50.250) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-24 09:56:16	codecat	anyone there?
2019-03-24 09:56:36	timmyRS	Yes
2019-03-24 09:56:51	codecat	msg timmyRS
2019-03-24 09:56:58	codecat	..
2019-03-24 09:56:58	codecat	emm
2019-03-24 09:57:00	codecat	how to use it
2019-03-24 10:23:11	-->	NickG365_ (~NickG365@2607:5300:60:6e29:472:6425:3733:0) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-24 10:23:12	<--	NickG365_ (~NickG365@2607:5300:60:6e29:472:6425:3733:0) a quitté (Excess Flood)
2019-03-24 10:23:42	-->	NickG365_ (~NickG365@system.properties) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-24 10:23:44	<--	NickG365_ (~NickG365@system.properties) a quitté (Excess Flood)
2019-03-24 10:24:24	<--	NickG365 (~NickG365@system.properties) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2019-03-24 10:24:29	-->	NickG365 (~NickG365@2607:5300:60:6e29:472:6425:3733:0) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-24 10:34:20	timmyRS	Alright, codecat's issue has been solved. He confused packet 25 (Plugin Message) with packet 0x25 (Join Game). And they are delivered one after another as well.
2019-03-24 11:55:15	<--	codecat (~codecat@171.217.50.250) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-24 12:15:00	<--	saper (saper@wikipedia/saper) a quitté (Quit: Upgrade to FreeBSD 12)
2019-03-24 17:42:10	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2019-03-24 17:48:54	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-24 19:04:10	-->	Dadido3_ (~quassel@p200300D9DF19FE00C900C0E461E3EF7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-24 19:06:54	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF19FE004D298AC9E7AD4B96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2019-03-24 23:49:07	<--	Dadido3_ (~quassel@p200300D9DF19FE00C900C0E461E3EF7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-25 00:07:01	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF19FE00C900C0E461E3EF7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 03:14:06	<--	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a quitté (Quit: Bye)
2019-03-25 03:17:19	-->	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 04:53:30	<--	chibill (~chibill@108-228-59-57.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-03-25 04:58:45	-->	chibill (~chibill@108-228-59-57.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 06:54:00	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 06:55:53	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-03-25 06:55:53	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-03-25 07:08:41	<--	kev009 (~kev009@ip72-222-200-117.ph.ph.cox.net) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-03-25 08:12:05	-->	kev009 (~kev009@ip72-222-200-117.ph.ph.cox.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 08:12:05	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v kev009] par ChanServ
2019-03-25 12:13:52	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2019-03-25 12:27:16	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 12:56:08	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-25 12:57:41	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 13:27:29	-->	tachyon_ (5bc768f4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.199.104.244) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 14:34:10	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-252-55-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-25 14:44:42	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-25 14:44:52	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 14:53:39	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-252-55-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 15:44:13	-->	Raqbit7 (~Raqbit@unaffiliated/raqbit) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 15:46:02	<--	Raqbit (~Raqbit@unaffiliated/raqbit) a quitté (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2019-03-25 17:54:42	<--	tachyon_ (5bc768f4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.199.104.244) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-03-25 19:41:12	<--	_MrGr33n_ (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:3591:3a9:302b:ac74) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-25 19:42:07	-->	_MrGr33n_ (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:dd09:f98b:8161:3664) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 20:28:22	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-03-25 20:31:29	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 21:38:59	<--	kev009 (~kev009@ip72-222-200-117.ph.ph.cox.net) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-03-25 21:42:06	-->	kev009_ (~kev009@ip72-222-200-117.ph.ph.cox.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-25 21:42:06	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v kev009_] par ChanServ
2019-03-26 01:04:29	<--	McLive (~McLive@2a05:bec0:20:1::9) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2019-03-26 02:51:45	<--	RoboMWM (~RoboMWM@xn--rh8h.xn--13h07alb18952afak11dq1gkm46v.robomwm.com) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-26 03:01:56	-->	RoboMWM (~RoboMWM@xn--rh8h.xn--13h07alb18952afak11dq1gkm46v.robomwm.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 06:52:49	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 06:54:22	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-03-26 06:54:22	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-03-26 07:38:02	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:2983:9ae7:cf50:24db) a quitté (Quit: Of course we scientists have our little secrets. For instance, the moon is in Spain. Another: stars aren't real. Also, cells are huge. One cell is roughly the size of a marble.)
2019-03-26 08:44:16	<--	_MrGr33n_ (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:dd09:f98b:8161:3664) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-26 08:44:43	-->	_MrGr33n_ (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:95eb:259a:f728:d3b2) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 09:01:14	<--	_MrGr33n_ (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:95eb:259a:f728:d3b2) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-26 09:01:42	-->	_MrGr33n_ (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:95eb:259a:f728:d3b2) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 09:14:16	<--	_MrGr33n_ (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:95eb:259a:f728:d3b2) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-26 10:58:11	<--	WizardCM- (~WizardCM@103.93.232.1) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2019-03-26 11:00:32	-->	WizardCM- (~WizardCM@2401:31c0:ffff:1:20c:29ff:fe5d:3e) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 11:16:07	-->	Me4502 (~quassel@167-179-190-91.a7b3be.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 11:16:07	<--	Me4502 (~quassel@167-179-190-91.a7b3be.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net) a quitté (Changing host)
2019-03-26 11:16:07	-->	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 11:56:10	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@athedsl-361556.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 12:12:12	-->	Dadido3_ (~quassel@p54A3AD49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 12:14:52	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF19FE00C900C0E461E3EF7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-03-26 12:18:42	<--	Dadido3_ (~quassel@p54A3AD49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-26 12:19:16	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF30E600885E72441D45568A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 12:57:04	<--	WizardCM- (~WizardCM@2401:31c0:ffff:1:20c:29ff:fe5d:3e) a quitté (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2019-03-26 12:57:32	-->	WizardCM- (~WizardCM@103.93.232.1) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 13:00:15	<--	WizardCM- (~WizardCM@103.93.232.1) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-26 13:00:34	-->	WizardCM- (~WizardCM@103.93.232.1) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 13:06:16	<--	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-26 16:55:56	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 16:59:01	-->	McLive (~McLive@2a05:bec0:20:1::9) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 16:59:04	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2019-03-26 16:59:05	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-03-26 18:48:46	-->	Evanry (~Evanry@p200300EDCF211993EB4FF207A0935F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 18:48:51	-->	janis (~Evanry@p200300EDCF211993EB4FF207A0935F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 18:49:11	<--	janis (~Evanry@p200300EDCF211993EB4FF207A0935F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Client Quit)
2019-03-26 20:43:00	<--	Evanry (~Evanry@p200300EDCF211993EB4FF207A0935F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-03-26 20:43:06	-->	bildramer1 (~bildramer@athedsl-361601.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 20:43:48	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@athedsl-361556.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-03-26 20:55:04	-->	Evanry (~Evanry@p200300EDCF211993EB4FF207A0935F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 20:56:35	<--	Tknoguyfication (~Tknoguyfi@75-167-41-151.phnx.qwest.net) a quitté (Quit: RIP ZNC)
2019-03-26 21:43:49	<--	Evanry (~Evanry@p200300EDCF211993EB4FF207A0935F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-26 22:47:36	-->	Evanry (~Evanry@p200300EDCF211993EB4FF207A0935F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-26 22:57:30	<--	Evanry (~Evanry@p200300EDCF211993EB4FF207A0935F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Quit: Leaving)
2019-03-27 03:48:45	<--	Aikar (~aikar@wikia/Aikar) a quitté (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)
2019-03-27 03:49:04	-->	Aikar (~aikar@2604:4500::5102) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-27 03:49:04	<--	Aikar (~aikar@2604:4500::5102) a quitté (Changing host)
2019-03-27 03:49:04	-->	Aikar (~aikar@wikia/Aikar) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-27 06:55:19	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-27 06:56:42	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-27 06:56:43	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-03-27 11:05:17	Raqbit7	It appears to me that some "non-notchian" servers do *not* return a TextComponent as the description in a Server List Ping response. (https://wiki.vg/Server_List_Ping#Response). Why does this work for normal clients?
2019-03-27 11:07:21	Raqbit7	The protocol documentation states that it should be a TextComponent, but without any formatting (as that still uses the legacy text formatting system). These servers instead return a string instead.
2019-03-27 11:07:41	Raqbit7	*These servers return a string instead
2019-03-27 11:14:01	timmyRS	Well, the json response is also just a string which happens to be valid JSON. I assume the vanilla client falls back to the legacy text format, because it's still used in some places in vanilla.
2019-03-27 11:19:48	Raqbit7	Yes, I should rephrase: In the json response, the "description" field should be a chat component but some servers send a plain string
2019-03-27 11:20:06	timmyRS	Yes, I understood, I just spilled a bit of nonsense
2019-03-27 11:21:08	timmyRS	Anyway, the vanilla client still uses the legacy text format in some places, so I reckon that in cases such as the description field there is a fallback to optionally allow legacy text.
2019-03-27 11:21:15	timmyRS	That's what I meant to say 
2019-03-27 11:22:11	Raqbit7	That's weird because the notchian server also sends legacy text, but wrapped in a chat component
2019-03-27 11:23:12	Raqbit7	so you get {"text:"§bSome §6server"}
2019-03-27 11:23:22	timmyRS	Yeah, "§4Hi", {"text:"§4Hi"}, and {"text":"Hi","color":"dark_red"} all mean the same thing to vanilla because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2019-03-27 11:23:34	Raqbit7	Heh. Alrighty then
2019-03-27 11:24:03	timmyRS	If you're planning on reading chat components, you should accept that as well
2019-03-27 11:25:10	Raqbit7	Yes, should probably do that.
2019-03-27 11:27:43	Raqbit7	Thanks!
2019-03-27 11:31:46	Raqbit7	https://wiki.vg/Chat#Schema : `Note that it is invalid to have a JSON primitive as the root object, so it is not valid to merely send the text in quotes.`  -> Is this sentence incorrect then?
2019-03-27 11:34:47	timmyRS	Hm, I'd say for the "Schema" that is correct, it's just that the Notchian implementation is a bit more relaxed
2019-03-27 11:37:55	timmyRS	In a future version when MC-119145 is fixed, maybe it'll be more strict
2019-03-27 11:52:16	<--	Yamakaja (~yamakaja@vps.pub.yamakaja.me) a quitté (Quit: Bye)
2019-03-27 12:38:39	-->	Yamakaja (~yamakaja@vps.pub.yamakaja.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-27 18:11:03	Not-e6c6	[New-Mc-Version] Minecraft snapshot 19w13a has just been released!
2019-03-27 18:12:12	PolarizedIons	https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-19w13a
2019-03-27 18:14:45	Not-e6c6	[Burger] New data now avaliable for 19w13a:
2019-03-27 18:14:47	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Diff from 19w12b: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w12b_19w13a.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w12b_19w13a.json)
2019-03-27 18:14:48	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/19w13a.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/19w13a.json)
2019-03-27 18:19:42	+pokechu22	I don't have time to update this stuff today unfortunately, at least not for a while.  Quick analysis is the addition of new clientbound packet 0x5A and serverbound 0x27, changes to clientbound 0x25, and no other serverbound changes
2019-03-27 18:28:22	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Quit: Meow)
2019-03-27 19:02:04	timmyRS	PolarizedIons is the best bot of them all :D
2019-03-27 19:14:33	PolarizedIons	😊
2019-03-27 19:31:30	<--	WizardCM- (~WizardCM@103.93.232.1) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-03-27 19:31:46	-->	WizardCM- (~WizardCM@103.93.232.1) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-27 20:14:39	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-27 23:28:11	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF30E600885E72441D45568A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-03-27 23:41:52	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF30E600195E986725F41BA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-27 23:48:57	<--	gabizou (~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2019-03-28 00:09:04	-->	Dadido3_ (~quassel@p200300D9DF30E600195E986725F41BA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 00:09:34	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF30E600195E986725F41BA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-28 00:10:16	<--	levifig (~levi@hakr.io) a quitté (Quit: Farewell)
2019-03-28 00:13:19	-->	levifig (~levi@hakr.io) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 02:08:58	-->	gabizou (~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 04:37:33	-->	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 04:39:18	<--	badepe2 (~badepe@54005EFC.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-28 06:53:03	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 06:55:04	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-28 06:55:04	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-03-28 07:14:40	<--	Raqbit7 (~Raqbit@unaffiliated/raqbit) a quitté (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)
2019-03-28 07:14:40	<--	PolarizedIons (~Polarized@unaffiliated/polarizedions) a quitté (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)
2019-03-28 08:27:32	<--	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-03-28 08:28:22	<--	Thinkofname (~Think@5.135.185.23) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-03-28 08:28:37	-->	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 08:30:10	-->	Thinkofname (~Think@5.135.185.23) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 08:30:10	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Thinkofname] par ChanServ
2019-03-28 10:30:29	<--	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a quitté
2019-03-28 11:22:45	<--	matthewprenger (~matt@irc.prenger.co) a quitté (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2019-03-28 11:23:06	-->	matthewprenger (~matt@irc.prenger.co) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 11:47:02	<--	bildramer1 (~bildramer@athedsl-361601.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Quit: Of course we scientists have our little secrets. For instance, the moon is in Spain. Another: stars aren't real. Also, cells are huge. One cell is roughly the size of a marble.)
2019-03-28 16:13:15	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:2c97:9d5e:da2a:ed10) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 17:14:25	-->	Duncan67 (63fb0595@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.251.5.149) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 17:15:40	Duncan67	For a server to despawn then respawn a player it would send a Delete Entities packet then a Spawn Player packet afterwards right? Can't seem to get the player entity to spawn again after being deleted
2019-03-28 17:30:07	+pokechu22	That sounds right to me, not 100% sure though
2019-03-28 17:32:51	+pokechu22	Yeah, that should be correct, destroy entities and then spawn player
2019-03-28 20:04:09	<--	Duncan67 (63fb0595@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.251.5.149) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2019-03-28 20:17:21	-->	Duncan67 (63fb0595@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.251.5.149) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 20:47:57	<--	tassu (~tassu@tassu.me) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-03-28 20:52:45	-->	tassu (~tassu@tassu.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 21:41:12	-->	Raqbit7 (~Raqbit@ip4da49ab9.direct-adsl.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 23:19:09	--	Raqbit7 est maintenant connu sous le nom Raqbit
2019-03-28 23:19:21	<--	Raqbit (~Raqbit@ip4da49ab9.direct-adsl.nl) a quitté (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)
2019-03-28 23:19:42	-->	Raqbit7 (~Raqbit@ip4da49ab9.direct-adsl.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 23:19:59	--	Raqbit7 est maintenant connu sous le nom Raqbit
2019-03-28 23:20:06	<--	Raqbit (~Raqbit@ip4da49ab9.direct-adsl.nl) a quitté (Client Quit)
2019-03-28 23:20:26	-->	Raqbit7 (~Raqbit@ip4da49ab9.direct-adsl.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-28 23:20:48	<--	Raqbit7 (~Raqbit@ip4da49ab9.direct-adsl.nl) a quitté (Client Quit)
2019-03-29 01:16:10	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-29 01:18:11	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 04:41:33	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-29 04:43:53	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 06:52:54	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 06:53:01	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-03-29 06:53:01	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-03-29 07:25:07	-->	PolarizedIons (~Polarized@unaffiliated/polarizedions) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 08:44:00	-->	saper (saper@wikipedia/saper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 13:40:30	-->	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 14:00:58	<--	PolarizedIons (~Polarized@unaffiliated/polarizedions) a quitté (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))
2019-03-29 14:01:24	-->	PolarizedIons (~Polarized@unaffiliated/polarizedions) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 14:01:41	<--	Yamakaja (~yamakaja@vps.pub.yamakaja.me) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-03-29 14:02:57	-->	Yamakaja (~yamakaja@vps.pub.yamakaja.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 14:31:46	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-29 14:33:59	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 14:40:03	Not-e6c6	[New-Mc-Version] Minecraft snapshot 19w13b has just been released!
2019-03-29 14:40:26	PolarizedIons	https://www.minecraft.net/nl-nl/article/minecraft-snapshot-19w13a
2019-03-29 14:42:07	timmyRS	Finally my Minecraft server auto-updated like I told it to
2019-03-29 14:42:09	PolarizedIons	Who do I complain to for redirecting me to nl-nl ?
2019-03-29 14:44:19	Not-e6c6	[Burger] New data now avaliable for 19w13b:
2019-03-29 14:44:21	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Diff from 19w13a: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w13a_19w13b.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w13a_19w13b.json)
2019-03-29 14:44:22	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/19w13b.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/19w13b.json)
2019-03-29 15:47:31	<--	Morrolan (morrolan@znc.morrolan.ch) a quitté (Quit: Goodbye)
2019-03-29 15:50:47	-->	Morrolan (morrolan@znc.morrolan.ch) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 16:13:18	-->	PolarizedIons6 (~Polarized@unaffiliated/polarizedions) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 16:14:35	<--	PolarizedIons (~Polarized@unaffiliated/polarizedions) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-03-29 16:23:05	--	PolarizedIons6 est maintenant connu sous le nom PolarizedIons
2019-03-29 17:10:37	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:2c97:9d5e:da2a:ed10) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-03-29 17:14:24	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:ac9b:cca1:4258:dfa9) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 17:25:38	<--	PolarizedIons (~Polarized@unaffiliated/polarizedions) a quitté (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)
2019-03-29 17:26:10	-->	PolarizedIons (~Polarized@unaffiliated/polarizedions) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 21:38:42	<--	Duncan67 (63fb0595@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.251.5.149) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-03-29 22:42:36	<--	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@c-67-172-121-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-29 23:50:31	-->	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@2601:200:4400:ec::1002) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-29 23:50:31	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ
2019-03-30 01:37:22	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-30 01:39:59	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 03:06:05	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:ac9b:cca1:4258:dfa9) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-03-30 03:06:54	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:ac9b:cca1:4258:dfa9) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 12:16:43	<--	jamieroc- (~jamie@vista.jamiemansfield.me) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2019-03-30 12:16:44	<--	humerusj (~humerusj@unaffiliated/humerusj) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2019-03-30 12:16:44	<--	mundus (~mundus201@unaffiliated/mundus2018) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2019-03-30 12:16:44	<--	Adam (Adam@unaffiliated/adam-) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2019-03-30 12:16:50	-->	Adam (Adam@sigterm.info) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 12:16:53	<--	Adam (Adam@sigterm.info) a quitté (Changing host)
2019-03-30 12:16:53	-->	Adam (Adam@unaffiliated/adam-) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 12:16:53	-->	humerusj (~humerusj@unaffiliated/humerusj) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 12:17:51	-->	mundus2018 (~mundus201@unaffiliated/mundus2018) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 12:19:00	<--	darngeek (~darngeek@bouncer.pocketmine.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-03-30 12:19:24	-->	dranghek (~darngeek@bouncer.pocketmine.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 12:20:29	-->	jamierocks (~jamie@vista.jamiemansfield.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 13:53:05	<--	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@2601:200:4400:ec::1002) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-30 14:38:17	<--	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-03-30 14:48:42	-->	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 16:14:35	timmyRS	The "Last Version Supported" field in https://wiki.vg/Library_List is a bit confusing, as sometimes the value is a list of supported versions.
2019-03-30 16:15:10	timmyRS	Also, "All" is a bit questionable
2019-03-30 20:53:37	-->	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@c-67-172-121-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 20:53:37	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ
2019-03-30 21:00:54	<--	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@c-67-172-121-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a quitté (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
2019-03-30 21:05:55	-->	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@2601:200:4400:ec::1002) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-30 21:05:55	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ
2019-03-31 03:36:55	-->	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-31 04:04:53	<--	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a quitté (Quit: Bye)
2019-03-31 04:07:58	-->	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-31 05:50:35	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-31 05:52:38	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-31 06:23:30	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-31 06:24:38	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2019-03-31 06:24:38	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-03-31 07:00:27	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:ac9b:cca1:4258:dfa9) a quitté (Quit: Of course we scientists have our little secrets. For instance, the moon is in Spain. Another: stars aren't real. Also, cells are huge. One cell is roughly the size of a marble.)
2019-03-31 08:09:15	<--	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@2601:200:4400:ec::1002) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-03-31 08:13:42	-->	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@c-67-172-121-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-31 08:13:42	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ
2019-03-31 10:43:49	timmyRS	Discovered another Minecraft bug. Sending a Boss Bar packet and then disconnecting the client (not sending a Join Game packet) will result a phantom boss bar. :D
2019-03-31 13:35:43	<--	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-31 13:45:52	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004CEA0310007DC19D55DD24E881.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-31 15:26:30	-->	bildramer1 (~bildramer@p2003004CEA031000E902D9E32BC4DB19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-31 15:28:16	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004CEA0310007DC19D55DD24E881.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-03-31 16:53:04	-->	hwiggy (~hwiggy@mobile-107-77-160-70.mobile.att.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-31 16:53:30	hwiggy	I am struggling whilst trying to respond to a Legacy Ping packet
2019-03-31 16:54:13	hwiggy	My best attempt (partial) is this: https://hastebin.com/evijupejaf.java
2019-03-31 16:54:41	hwiggy	When using 1.6.4 (It is legacy ping) I see this: http://prntscr.com/n5gi8v
2019-03-31 16:56:25	timmyRS	writeAndFlush doesn't do any more processing other than sending it, right?
2019-03-31 16:57:46	hwiggy	Flush sends the packet and cleans the sending queue
2019-03-31 16:58:22	hwiggy	Without the flush operation, the client never receives the packet
2019-03-31 16:59:23	timmyRS	Yeah, I just mean that it's not length-prefixed or such
2019-03-31 16:59:58	hwiggy	No, there is no additional modification to the packet from that method
2019-03-31 17:00:24	timmyRS	And putString also doesn't length-prefix it?
2019-03-31 17:01:17	hwiggy	:O looking at the decompiled code, it does
2019-03-31 17:02:20	hwiggy	After modifying that, the packet works now. Thank you
2019-03-31 17:02:59	timmyRS	No problem :D
2019-03-31 17:03:44	hwiggy	I will have to make a new method to write strings
2019-03-31 17:08:55	hwiggy	Does anyone have any pointers for how the packet system for my server should work
2019-03-31 17:56:19	<--	hwiggy (~hwiggy@mobile-107-77-160-70.mobile.att.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-03-31 20:22:03	-->	badepe_ (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-03-31 20:22:07	<--	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-03-31 22:47:25	<--	badepe_ (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-03-31 22:47:58	-->	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 01:02:49	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-04-01 01:04:57	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 02:31:46	-->	Me4502 (~Me4502@unaffiliated/me4502) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 03:54:25	-->	pvpctutorials (~skyrising@ppp-62-216-196-255.dynamic.mnet-online.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 03:57:54	<--	skyrising (~skyrising@89.43.124.79) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2019-04-01 04:09:47	--	mundus2018 est maintenant connu sous le nom mundus
2019-04-01 06:23:54	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 06:25:27	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-04-01 06:25:27	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-04-01 07:43:16	<--	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a quitté (Quit: lax is dum lol)
2019-04-01 07:49:17	-->	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 08:23:50	<--	Me4502 (~Me4502@unaffiliated/me4502) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-04-01 11:06:24	-->	Me4502 (~quassel@180.150.93.140) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 11:06:24	<--	Me4502 (~quassel@180.150.93.140) a quitté (Changing host)
2019-04-01 11:06:24	-->	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 11:50:43	-->	Me4502__ (~Me4502@unaffiliated/me4502) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 11:51:59	<--	Me4502__ (~Me4502@unaffiliated/me4502) a quitté (Client Quit)
2019-04-01 13:27:32	<--	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-04-01 14:04:56	-->	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 14:20:57	<--	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2019-04-01 14:55:27	<--	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-04-01 14:59:48	-->	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 15:20:16	PolarizedIons	👀 @ Mojang 
2019-04-01 15:37:29	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-252-55-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-04-01 15:55:54	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-252-55-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 16:00:04	Not-e6c6	[New-Mc-Version] Minecraft snapshot 3D Shareware v1.34 has just been released!
2019-04-01 16:00:19	PolarizedIons	OwO
2019-04-01 16:00:48	PolarizedIons	https://www.minecraft.net/nl-nl/article/minecraft-3d-rediscovered
2019-04-01 16:07:19	PolarizedIons	classy as ever Mojang ♥️
2019-04-01 17:28:48	<--	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2019-04-01 17:29:22	-->	badepe (~badepe@95C869E8.mobile.pool.telekom.hu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 18:34:48	+pokechu22	utoh, burger does not like that
2019-04-01 18:35:44	+pokechu22	I'm not escaping spaces properly
2019-04-01 18:43:37	Not-e6c6	[Burger] New data now avaliable for 3D Shareware v1.34:
2019-04-01 18:43:38	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Diff from 19w13b: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w13b_3D Shareware v1.34.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w13b_3D Shareware v1.34.json)
2019-04-01 18:43:40	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/3D Shareware v1.34.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/3D Shareware v1.34.json)
2019-04-01 18:49:18	+pokechu22	PVN 1, that's pretty good
2019-04-01 19:18:34	timmyRS	Finally, a 3D version of Minecraft. I was so tired of it only being available in 2D. 
2019-04-01 20:25:19	-->	Evanry (~Evanry@p200300EDCF211922EA71473DF4004228.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 21:18:22	<--	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-04-01 22:22:07	<--	Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-04-01 22:33:29	-->	Guest95175 (~alex@znc.alexmonk.uk) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 22:42:29	<--	Guest95175 (~alex@znc.alexmonk.uk) a quitté (Changing host)
2019-04-01 22:42:29	-->	Guest95175 (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 22:44:55	--	Guest95175 est maintenant connu sous le nom Krenair
2019-04-01 23:02:53	<--	Evanry (~Evanry@p200300EDCF211922EA71473DF4004228.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-04-01 23:05:30	-->	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 23:26:58	<--	Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a quitté (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
2019-04-01 23:32:37	-->	Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-01 23:43:52	Not-e6c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjIJy
2019-04-01 23:43:53	Not-e6c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 b17af05 - add version to createBot in API.md
2019-04-01 23:45:05	timmyRS	How does one guess the version? I assume you mean "default to pinging the server", rom1504?
2019-04-01 23:47:08	rom1504	yes
2019-04-01 23:47:25	rom1504	it's a guess though
2019-04-01 23:47:39	rom1504	because the server doesn't always provide the version properly
2019-04-01 23:47:45	rom1504	in particular non-vanilla
2019-04-01 23:54:16	timmyRS	Really? 
2019-04-01 23:54:43	timmyRS	Any examples? My couple of list ping tests against popular servers worked fine.
2019-04-01 23:55:29	rom1504	for example there are several servers supporting multiple versions
2019-04-01 23:55:35	rom1504	that doesn't work on those
2019-04-01 23:55:49	rom1504	but yes it usually works to use the version reported by the server
2019-04-01 23:55:54	rom1504	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/src/client/autoVersion.js#L19
2019-04-01 23:57:05	timmyRS	Is the ping packet using protocol version -1?
2019-04-02 00:00:30	rom1504	no it's using some default version
2019-04-02 00:00:42	rom1504	it doesn't really matter which version it uses
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2019-04-02 00:03:04	timmyRS	I would imagine servers would implement the list ping correctly, even if they support multiple versions, but maybe there are some edge cases
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2019-04-02 00:41:09	rom1504	well they have to return one version !
2019-04-02 00:42:24	timmyRS	My logic is "is the client's version supported? I give them their version back. Not supported? I give them the latest but with an accuracte string e.g. 1.8 - 1.13.2"
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2019-04-02 01:41:24	+pokechu22	Yeah, the general recommendation is to use -1 since that will never normally be a version (but in practice it probably doesn't matter _too_ much)
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2019-04-03 06:15:29	+pokechu22	So... I managed to spill stuff on my keyboard again.  This time OJ instead of water.  I've got things mostly cleaned out, though I'm probably going to need to take my laptop apart even further to clean it all the way (sometimes it fails to boot with repeated beeping -- I think that means it thinks a key is held, so the connector for the keyboard needs to be cleaned as I don't have any internal keryboard at
2019-04-03 06:15:32	+pokechu22	the moment).  Might make things hard to keep up to date.  I do have an external keyboard... buty it's one of the curvy ergonomic ones and I"m not used to it at all
2019-04-03 06:17:54	+pokechu22	Everything seems to be running fine now that I've got it on at least, though I'm copying files off now.  And I know this is a rather weird place to repeatedly talk about me breaking my laptop, but I don't have a better place to do it :D
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2019-04-03 08:21:28	MiniDigger	oh wow
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2019-04-03 15:11:30	badepe	Hey, what packet am I supposed to send to get the worldchange loading screen?
2019-04-03 15:17:02	timmyRS	Respawn
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2019-04-03 17:25:04	Not-e6c6	[New-Mc-Version] Minecraft snapshot 19w14a has just been released!
2019-04-03 17:25:06	Not-e6c6	[Burger] New data now avaliable for 19w14a:
2019-04-03 17:25:07	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Diff from 3D Shareware v1.34: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_3D Shareware v1.34_19w14a.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_3D Shareware v1.34_19w14a.json)
2019-04-03 17:25:09	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/19w14a.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/19w14a.json)
2019-04-03 17:27:01	PolarizedIons	https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-19w14a0
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2019-04-03 22:31:27	+pokechu22	So I was wrong, and my laptop nonkeyboard is spewing an infinite stream of 2s.  I managed to connect from my phone, which was an ordeal with setting up keys.  But I can at leasrnchat... kinda.
2019-04-03 22:32:13	+pokechu22	Anyways, I'll do Aa diff from 1913b now
2019-04-03 22:40:11	MiniDigger	we should start a fund to get your laptop fixed, lol
2019-04-03 22:40:42	MiniDigger	poke's laptop: a tragedy in three acts
2019-04-03 22:40:42	MiniDigger	:D
2019-04-03 22:43:45	Not-e6c6	[Burger] New data now avaliable for 19w14a:
2019-04-03 22:43:47	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Diff from 19w13b: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w13b_19w14a.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w13b_19w14a.json)
2019-04-03 22:43:48	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/19w14a.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/19w14a.json)
2019-04-03 22:50:16	thekinrar	Hi everyone
2019-04-03 22:50:17	thekinrar	I have a question regarding the MC protocol: why does the server send the whole ~ 21*21 chunk columns around the client even if the client has a render distance inferior to 10 chunks? Couldn't it just load the chunks but not send them, as the client reports its render distance in 0x04? Thanks!
2019-04-03 22:51:13	timmyRS	It only reports its render distance for some custom servers to respect it, but vanilla only uses the render distance specified in server.properties.
2019-04-03 22:51:57	+pokechu22	^ It could... vanilla jusr doesnt
2019-04-03 22:54:49	thekinrar	okay, thank you very much!
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2019-04-04 02:14:29	+pokechu22	Did some cleaning and am now reassembling.  Hopefully it'll work.
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2019-04-04 02:29:44	+pokechu22	It seemed to be starting up... but the fan's making a clickibg noise.  Taking it apart again to check for obstructions
2019-04-04 02:31:08	timmyRS	We better change the channel topic to "pokechu22's Twitter" lol
2019-04-04 02:32:33	+pokechu22	:D
2019-04-04 02:34:16	+pokechu22	I guess I shpuld also ask - does anyone have recommendations for a new laptop?  Ideally one that can be repaired and upgraded fairly easily and possibly also one that's waterproof (which seems to be more important as of late)
2019-04-04 02:35:19	timmyRS	What do you mean by "upgrade"?
2019-04-04 02:38:04	+pokechu22	e.g. adding more RAM or such.  For my current one it's pretty easy to open the bottom and get to that (no screws for that even)
2019-04-04 02:38:45	+pokechu22	Not RAM soldered in place
2019-04-04 02:40:01	timmyRS	I had one like that as well. I was just worried that you might want to be able to upgrade more than just RAM. Tho I'm not sure if that and waterproof are a good and/or cheap match.
2019-04-04 02:40:58	+pokechu22	Yeah, I don't know if both would be possible, and between the two I'd probably prefer being able to access stiff
2019-04-04 02:42:28	timmyRS	What if you glue like a thin sheet of plastic ontop of the bottom side of your laptop so it's waterproof? :D
2019-04-04 02:43:29	timmyRS	I mean this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_wrap
2019-04-04 02:45:39	+pokechu22	Ideally, I'd just not drink near it... but my ability to refrain from doing that seems rqther weak
2019-04-04 02:46:56	timmyRS	"Ideally, our customers would stop holding the phone the wrong way!" -- Apple, probably
2019-04-04 02:47:09	timmyRS	You should just idiot/self proof your laptop. That's the smarter move.
2019-04-04 02:51:09	+pokechu22	I don't even know of something like that wluld really solve the problem, since a spill could get around it (there's a tray-like thing under the keyboard, though it has holes...  basically anytjing woild have to have a hole of some sort, even if just on the side)
2019-04-04 02:52:54	+pokechu22	I do partoLly blame the tables at my school being rather unsteady (though it's mostly my fault)
2019-04-04 03:06:43	kashike	I'm a fan of thinkpad's
2019-04-04 03:33:33	+pokechu22	Alright, everything seems to be working again, other than the fan still clicking... but I'm just going to ignore that.  That's the kind of thing that could lead to issues in a few months time, but hopefully I can get it replaced before then.  ... and actually, it seems to stop if I have the lid less open.
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2019-04-04 08:45:07	MiniDigger	I also have a thinkpad for too, really liking it for its durability 
2019-04-04 08:45:35	MiniDigger	altho the fans are loud as fuck, but that might be caused by me putting too much load on a machine with way too less power 
2019-04-04 08:46:25	MiniDigger	its only a T560 with a i5-6300U, but 32gb ram, that poor thing really doesn't like me working on it with 3 monitors :D
2019-04-04 08:47:12	MiniDigger	thinkpads are supposed to be spill proof, right? 
2019-04-04 08:51:04	MiniDigger	I got both my sister and my best friend a hp x360 (can't remember if pavilion or spectre), they are amazing for uni and stuff for keeping notes
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2019-04-04 12:18:10	timmyRS	only 32 gb ram? damn, so you can only have 1 chrome tab and 1 minecraft client open at the same time? xD
2019-04-04 12:29:33	MiniDigger	I didn't equip that machine, its work issued :D
2019-04-04 12:30:29	MiniDigger	at first they actually wanted to give me 8gb, since we were the first to get laptops (for uni and stuff), took us a whole year of debate to get proper laptops
2019-04-04 12:30:59	timmyRS	32 GB for a laptop is very nice, almost seemed too nice for a work-issued laptop. That explains it.
2019-04-04 12:31:19	timmyRS	If I were to buy a new tower, I'd also go for 32 GB, no more, no less. I feel like it's the perfect amount.
2019-04-04 12:31:32	timmyRS	Until every single desktop app is chrome in disguise, then maybe 128 GB.
2019-04-04 12:36:00	MiniDigger	yeah I have 32gb at home too, kinda want to upgrade soonish tho. my 6700k is getting old and my ram is clocked kinda slow, I can afford better ram now that prices are better again ^^
2019-04-04 12:37:27	timmyRS	my mainboard only supports DDR2 :/
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2019-04-04 23:39:42	rom1504	it's crazy the amount of ram needed these days
2019-04-04 23:40:08	rom1504	old games use like 30MB of rams
2019-04-04 23:40:51	rom1504	software tends to be optimized for dev comfort rather than ram usage
2019-04-04 23:41:31	rom1504	"let's use 5 more level of abtraction to gain 10% of time for devs"
2019-04-04 23:50:16	timmyRS	I wonder how long the "as long as it works" excuse will work
2019-04-04 23:50:38	timmyRS	I very much prefer sublime text over atom/vscode because I click its icon and I can start typing within actual 10ms
2019-04-04 23:52:51	+ammar2	it will only get worse over time
2019-04-04 23:53:53	rom1504	yeah I agree
2019-04-04 23:54:15	rom1504	if hardware provides 10TB of ram, why bother with optimizations
2019-04-04 23:54:17	timmyRS	I find myself making stuff like https://www.npmjs.com/package/add-dashes-to-uuid as a joke but then I ask if it's really a joke or if some dev is gonna find use in that
2019-04-04 23:54:39	+ammar2	oh god damnit
2019-04-04 23:54:43	+ammar2	don't even start with npm
2019-04-04 23:55:40	rom1504	that proves how easy it is to publish a npm package though ;)
2019-04-04 23:55:54	timmyRS	thing's basically a snippet library
2019-04-04 23:55:55	rom1504	you wouldn't have bothered in another language
2019-04-04 23:56:20	+ammar2	https://github.com/moxystudio/node-cross-spawn/pull/102
2019-04-04 23:56:31	timmyRS	and if someone introduces malware in one of their "snippets" its the fault of the author and not of the community 
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2019-04-05 01:12:02	+Amaranth	crates.io trends toward tiny crates too
2019-04-05 01:13:23	timmyRS	I honestly thought it was just nodejs, but I think it's just a new generation of developers with a... unique... mindset
2019-04-05 01:13:47	timmyRS	I wonder where you learn that? School? Blogs? StackOverflow? Twitter?
2019-04-05 01:14:16	+Amaranth	Backlash against giant do everything C++ and Java "libraries" which are really frameworks
2019-04-05 01:14:51	timmyRS	frameworks are awesome
2019-04-05 01:17:05	+Amaranth	Things like Qt or Spring are so large and all-encompassing you're working in a completely different environment
2019-04-05 01:17:17	+Amaranth	You're not even really writing C++ or Java, you're writing Qt and Spring :P
2019-04-05 01:20:17	timmyRS	I wouldn't want to try making a GUI in C++ without Qt
2019-04-05 01:20:39	+Amaranth	Plus the JavaScript ecosystem doesn't have great optimizers that can strip out anything you aren't using (it has them but they're not that good) so lots of small targetted libraries is better than a swiss army knife
2019-04-05 01:22:04	timmyRS	Still, there are some hilarious dependencies
2019-04-05 01:22:28	timmyRS	It's like stackoverflow copy paste code as an ecosystem
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2019-04-05 02:32:25	+pokechu22	https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-even (which is literally just https://github.com/jonschlinkert/is-even/blob/master/index.js) depends on https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-odd depends on https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-number -- and those have millions of downloads.  Not a good setup IMO
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2019-04-05 08:36:15	MiniDigger	code reuse is good
2019-04-05 08:36:26	MiniDigger	having thousands of dependencies isn't
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2019-04-05 08:36:31	MiniDigger	finding a middle group is hard
2019-04-05 08:37:51	MiniDigger	doesn't help that many js developers aren't trained as other developers might are so for them its harder to find that middle ground (because its nothing that can be explained in a medium post, lol)
2019-04-05 08:38:10	MiniDigger	(really don't want to sound elitist here)
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2019-04-05 13:01:53	timmyRS	As a human, that might be sad, but as a commercial developer, I'm very happy that our competition uses angular, nodejs, and whatnot, making their website load infinitely longer.
2019-04-05 13:27:04	Not-e6c6	[New-Mc-Version] Minecraft snapshot 19w14b has just been released!
2019-04-05 13:33:42	Not-e6c6	[Burger] New data now avaliable for 19w14b:
2019-04-05 13:33:44	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Diff from 19w14a: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w14a_19w14b.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w14a_19w14b.json)
2019-04-05 13:33:45	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/19w14b.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/19w14b.json)
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2019-04-05 22:27:01	rom1504	I completely disagree with most of the statements above
2019-04-05 22:27:12	rom1504	have more dependency is good
2019-04-05 22:27:19	rom1504	huge frameworks are bad
2019-04-05 22:27:27	rom1504	newbies don't publish packages
2019-04-05 22:27:53	rom1504	unexperienced developpers code everything in a monolithic
2019-04-05 22:28:11	rom1504	it's impossible to do packages in c++ and java
2019-04-05 22:28:39	rom1504	unless you pay a high cost, that is affordable only for huge things like Qt and Spring
2019-04-05 22:29:23	rom1504	php is getting a bit better these days, but its standard library is a huge monolithic and is very bad
2019-04-05 22:29:43	rom1504	I hear composer is ok though
2019-04-05 22:30:09	rom1504	and yeah you learn to do modular code with experience
2019-04-05 22:30:17	rom1504	and good examples
2019-04-05 22:30:47	rom1504	and also bad examples when you had to install 10GB of Qt to code a 300 lines UI
2019-04-05 22:34:18	rom1504	afaik npm is still the best package manager. Look at gradle and its way too powerful gradles files, at c# with its csproj without spec, c++ with no package manager, python with 3 package managers, etc.
2019-04-05 22:34:35	rom1504	maybe the new languages have good things (rust, elixir, go ?)
2019-04-05 22:37:48	rom1504	and people don't really use things like is-even, look at https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-even
2019-04-05 22:38:47	rom1504	I mean at the dependents tab
2019-04-05 22:41:12	+ammar2	here's a better example: https://www.npmjs.com/package/nice-try
2019-04-05 22:41:27	+ammar2	one of its dependents is https://www.npmjs.com/package/cross-spawn
2019-04-05 22:41:31	+ammar2	and look at their dependents
2019-04-05 22:41:51	+ammar2	and what does that package do?
2019-04-05 22:41:57	+ammar2	literally just eats an exception
2019-04-05 22:42:08	+ammar2	if you think that sort of dependency is good then uhh
2019-04-05 22:42:11	+ammar2	you're the problem
2019-04-05 22:53:52	rom1504	ammar2: what is the benefit in stopping using nice-try in that case?
2019-04-05 22:54:16	+ammar2	what is the benefit of using it
2019-04-05 22:54:30	+ammar2	making it longer to do an npm install?
2019-04-05 22:54:38	timmyRS	exceptions get handled exceptionally -- the way they're supposed to be handled?
2019-04-05 22:54:39	+ammar2	making it easier to compromise one package and affect a thousand others?
2019-04-05 22:55:15	+ammar2	do I need to point at left-pad and event-stream?
2019-04-05 22:55:56	+ammar2	there is a nice middle ground between giant dependencies and using a package manager to download 5 line snippets
2019-04-05 22:56:25	+ammar2	the javascript framework is leaned very heavily to the latter
2019-04-05 22:56:35	+ammar2	partially because the standard library is non existent
2019-04-05 22:56:47	rom1504	"making it longer to do an npm install?" it's *not* longer to do an npm install
2019-04-05 22:56:58	rom1504	that's a problem for languages with bad package manager
2019-04-05 22:57:12	+ammar2	have a billion copies of nice-try in my .node_modules folder?
2019-04-05 22:57:24	rom1504	no just one
2019-04-05 22:57:40	+ammar2	I mean you're arguing a tiny point anyway
2019-04-05 22:57:50	+ammar2	look at the other stuff I pointed to
2019-04-05 22:57:53	+ammar2	it's way more important
2019-04-05 22:59:45	rom1504	https://github.com/moxystudio/node-cross-spawn/pull/121
2019-04-05 22:59:49	rom1504	solved
2019-04-05 23:00:09	+ammar2	https://github.com/moxystudio/node-cross-spawn/pull/102
2019-04-05 23:00:10	+ammar2	nope
2019-04-05 23:00:25	rom1504	"making it easier to compromise one package and affect a thousand others?" that's an orthogonal problem
2019-04-05 23:00:42	rom1504	"do I need to point at left-pad and event-stream?" those were solved in npm
2019-04-05 23:00:51	rom1504	by making it not possible to unpublish so easily
2019-04-05 23:01:06	rom1504	"partially because the standard library is non existent" that's good
2019-04-05 23:01:15	rom1504	it would be better if there was none
2019-04-05 23:01:38	+ammar2	it's really not an orthogonal problem, thousands of transitive dependencies mean a way more massive attack surface
2019-04-05 23:02:55	rom1504	can't see how
2019-04-05 23:03:10	rom1504	it means there's more people looking at the code you depend on
2019-04-05 23:03:29	rom1504	whereas if you depend on Qt, who knows what goes on in that code
2019-04-05 23:03:38	rom1504	or if you use linux
2019-04-05 23:03:56	+ammar2	aah yes, I forgot about that time someone snuck malware into the linux source tree
2019-04-05 23:04:00	+ammar2	oh wait, that was an npm package
2019-04-05 23:04:07	rom1504	(or any other os, there are no non monolithic os)
2019-04-05 23:05:00	rom1504	and if you mean you can make some maintainer give you the permission to push bad code, well yeah and you can also contribute to Qt
2019-04-05 23:05:07	rom1504	it's not that hard
2019-04-05 23:05:21	+ammar2	except when it's a thousand projects with a thousand different maintainers
2019-04-05 23:05:32	+ammar2	its easier to be nice and contribute to one random one
2019-04-05 23:05:44	+ammar2	rather than the scrutiny that Qt or Linux patches have to go through
2019-04-05 23:06:11	rom1504	well if you contribute a 2000 lines patch to linux, maybe one or two people will look at it
2019-04-05 23:06:53	rom1504	there's no way you can contribute bad code to nice-try
2019-04-05 23:06:54	+ammar2	again, feel free to show malware contributed straight into linux or qt or any of these monolithic packages 
2019-04-05 23:07:23	rom1504	https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-33/product_id-47/cvssscoremin-7/cvssscoremax-7.99/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html
2019-04-05 23:07:53	+ammar2	bugs != malware
2019-04-05 23:08:11	rom1504	how so ? it's the same consequence
2019-04-05 23:08:16	+ammar2	uhh okay
2019-04-05 23:08:19	+ammar2	this is where I stop talking
2019-04-05 23:08:21	rom1504	your intention doesn't matter so much
2019-04-05 23:08:27	+ammar2	enjoy your 3000 transitive dependency environment
2019-04-05 23:08:42	timmyRS	We're getting a bit off-topic here, eh?
2019-04-05 23:09:09	timmyRS	Why do you care, ammar2? If your competition uses 3000 dependencies then you can easily make a superior product, so let them be. ;)
2019-04-05 23:09:43	rom1504	if my competition uses 1 dependency of 3M lines I can definitely make a superior product indeed :)
2019-04-05 23:11:21	rom1504	the worse is they don't do modular code though
2019-04-05 23:12:11	rom1504	and it's much harder to contribute any open source code for them
2019-04-05 23:12:54	timmyRS	Is it? You need to read 1-2 documentations, instead of 1000 documentations to understand all the functions available to you.
2019-04-05 23:13:08	timmyRS	Also, are you actively looking for an argument here, rom1504?
2019-04-05 23:13:45	rom1504	just trying to educate you people a bit
2019-04-05 23:13:51	rom1504	I'll finish with https://gist.github.com/substack/5075355
2019-04-05 23:16:11	rom1504	timmyRS: you mean you have 1-2 incomplete documentations that may have mistake you cannot fix, instead of having as many functions as needed, that can be fixed if incorrects
2019-04-05 23:17:33	timmyRS	Not sure what you're refering to, but PHP doc is editable by everyone and contains information about all functions
2019-04-05 23:18:42	timmyRS	And as a good dev, you obviously want to know what external function calls will do and what responses you can expect
2019-04-05 23:19:18	timmyRS	Especially in PHP and JS where you don't have typesafety
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2019-04-06 00:06:53	rom1504	"about all functions", no, only the one in php standard lib
2019-04-06 00:07:09	rom1504	How much code did you contribute to it ?
2019-04-06 00:22:59	+pokechu22	There is value in smaller dependencies, but is-even, is-odd, and is-number or whatever as _3 separate dependencies_ is just silly.  1 dependency per 5-line function is not a good idea
2019-04-06 00:25:03	+pokechu22	It's like having separate dependencies for each data type used in MC... no, not even that.  It's like having separate dependencies for each data type, with for each type there being one dependency for reading and one for writing.  That's just getting silly.
2019-04-06 00:25:34	tyteen4a03	 is-even, is-odd, and is-number <- this feels more like a failure of the stdlib
2019-04-06 00:26:52	+pokechu22	Sure, it can be both a failure of the stdlib and a failure of package organization not providing a single 3rd party number util that can handle both types of number parity.  You can blame more than one person :D
2019-04-06 00:28:31	+pokechu22	... oh, yes, there's also these: https://github.com/jonschlinkert/ansi-reset#related-projects
2019-04-06 00:32:41	timmyRS	this feels like a joke
2019-04-06 00:47:15	+pokechu22	Anyways, trying to be kinda on-topic... the changes in the snapshot seem weird, and I haven't looked into them at all yet.  Anyone know what actually changed?  It seems more complex than them just adding a new packet at the start
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2019-04-07 06:58:23	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-04-07 07:01:44	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-07 08:31:30	-->	Me4502 (~quassel@180.150.93.140) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-07 08:31:30	<--	Me4502 (~quassel@180.150.93.140) a quitté (Changing host)
2019-04-07 08:31:30	-->	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-07 11:02:16	-->	grumble (~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-07 11:56:47	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF30E600C900C0E461E3EF7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2019-04-07 11:59:09	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF1DE400A42D9FD19030C232.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-07 15:17:13	<--	Me4502 (~quassel@unaffiliated/me4502) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-04-07 15:36:16	-->	_MrGr33n_ (~None@BSN-142-194-111.static.siol.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-07 15:38:14	<--	Mr_Gr33n (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:10ae:1aba:3de8:b502) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2019-04-07 22:52:18	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-07 23:02:56	<--	KernelFreeze (kernel@wikimedia/KernelFreeze) a quitté (Quit: Kernel Panic)
2019-04-08 00:43:27	<--	l4mRh4X0r (l4mRh4X0r@pomacium.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-04-08 00:51:46	-->	l4mRh4X0r (l4mRh4X0r@pomacium.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 01:52:15	thekinrar	Hi everyone, I have a question (again), about Anvil. I was looking at https://wiki.vg/Map_Format which seems to say .mca files are NBT files just like level.dat. But they are not gzip files, nor uncompressed NBT files, so... What are these files? Thanks!
2019-04-08 01:54:09	+pokechu22	I'm pretty sure that page is many years out of date -- though the basics of it are still right ish
2019-04-08 01:54:32	+pokechu22	mca files _do_ contain NBT, but it's got a header and stuff -- there's separate NBT for each chunk
2019-04-08 01:55:36	+pokechu22	Mojang includes a reference thing for it (though that reference tool is also pretty old -- but it should cover the container format at least): https://www.mojang.com/2012/02/new-minecraft-map-format-anvil/
2019-04-08 02:01:03	thekinrar	okay, I'll look into that, thanks
2019-04-08 02:05:53	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-04-08 02:30:13	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 06:17:42	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 06:19:13	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-04-08 06:19:13	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-04-08 07:02:48	-->	YetAnotherUserna (~user@119-18-27-243.77121b.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 07:05:22	<--	YetAnotherUserna (~user@119-18-27-243.77121b.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net) a quitté (Client Quit)
2019-04-08 11:23:49	<--	sebagius7110 (~sebagius7@proximyst.com) a quitté (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2019-04-08 11:24:06	<--	Proximyst (~proximyst@proximyst.com) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-04-08 12:19:25	<--	skyrising (~skyrising@ppp-62-216-196-255.dynamic.mnet-online.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-04-08 12:24:53	-->	skyrising (~skyrising@ppp-62-216-196-255.dynamic.mnet-online.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 12:59:32	-->	Unarelith (~Quent4234@static-176-158-117-112.ftth.abo.bbox.fr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 15:37:03	<--	MasterdonY (~mas@162.243.120.25) a quitté (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
2019-04-08 15:37:41	-->	masterdonx (~mas@162.243.120.25) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 15:39:18	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-252-55-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-04-08 15:56:09	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-252-55-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 17:09:22	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-04-08 17:11:18	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 17:50:58	<--	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-04-08 17:53:02	-->	Starz0r (~quassel@138.197.214.219) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 18:48:40	<--	Plancke (~Plancke@2604:a880:400:d0::d58:e001) a quitté (Quit: Leaving)
2019-04-08 18:48:53	-->	Plancke (~Plancke@2604:a880:400:d0::d58:e001) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 18:48:56	<--	Plancke (~Plancke@2604:a880:400:d0::d58:e001) a quitté (Client Quit)
2019-04-08 18:49:09	-->	Plancke (~Plancke@2604:a880:400:d0::d58:e001) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-08 21:26:53	<--	Unarelith (~Quent4234@static-176-158-117-112.ftth.abo.bbox.fr) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2019-04-09 00:35:27	<--	skyrising (~skyrising@ppp-62-216-196-255.dynamic.mnet-online.de) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-04-09 02:04:43	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-04-09 02:25:18	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 06:14:46	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 06:18:22	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-04-09 06:18:22	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-04-09 08:23:07	-->	Unarelith (~Quent4234@static-176-158-117-112.ftth.abo.bbox.fr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 08:37:35	<--	Unarelith (~Quent4234@static-176-158-117-112.ftth.abo.bbox.fr) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-04-09 09:14:42	-->	tassu64 (~tassu@tassu.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 09:14:59	<--	tassu6 (~tassu@tassu.me) a quitté (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))
2019-04-09 09:15:00	<--	gabizou (~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-04-09 09:16:42	<--	Prf_Jakob (jakob@volt/developer/jakob) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-04-09 09:17:13	-->	gabizou (~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 09:17:29	-->	Prf_Jakob (jakob@volt/developer/jakob) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 09:17:29	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Prf_Jakob] par ChanServ
2019-04-09 09:56:10	-->	PolarizedIons3 (~Polarized@unaffiliated/polarizedions) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 09:56:20	-->	ashka` (~postmaste@baptiste-huve.fr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 09:56:21	<--	ashka` (~postmaste@baptiste-huve.fr) a quitté (Changing host)
2019-04-09 09:56:21	-->	ashka` (~postmaste@pdpc/supporter/active/ashka) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 09:58:22	<--	PolarizedIons (~Polarized@unaffiliated/polarizedions) a quitté (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))
2019-04-09 09:58:22	<--	ashka (~postmaste@pdpc/supporter/active/ashka) a quitté (Quit: En fait, le BSDiste, c'est comme l'homme politique, tu lui dis de quoi t'as besoin, il t'explique comment t'en passer)
2019-04-09 09:58:27	--	ashka` est maintenant connu sous le nom ashka
2019-04-09 14:00:47	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF1DE400A42D9FD19030C232.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-04-09 14:02:01	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF1DE400C900C0E461E3EF7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 15:12:11	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Quit: Meow)
2019-04-09 15:21:32	--	PolarizedIons3 est maintenant connu sous le nom PolarizedIons
2019-04-09 15:25:27	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 15:44:15	<--	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-04-09 15:46:11	-->	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 17:28:26	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004CEA031000F5FC97C4DC67B7DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-04-09 17:31:18	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004CEA031000F5FC97C4DC67B7DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 17:33:10	<--	pokechu22 (~pokechu22@2601:602:980:3d99:78f7:a549:526a:f769) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-04-09 17:33:46	-->	pokechu22 (~pokechu22@2601:602:980:3d99:78f7:a549:526a:f769) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 17:33:46	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v pokechu22] par ChanServ
2019-04-09 19:39:34	-->	Unarelith (~Quent4234@static-176-158-117-112.ftth.abo.bbox.fr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 21:48:31	-->	eleix (~boothf@orion.boothlabs.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-09 22:03:54	eleix	Anyone have any tips for a MC server in ruby? I know kylc has code on Github from 2011 but looking at the code and the protocol documentation something tells me it wouldn't be as simple as updating the packet ids to the newest version.
2019-04-09 22:09:24	timmyRS	2011? That would be 1.0. I'd say it's basically unusable and you're better off starting from scratch
2019-04-09 22:11:00	eleix	That's exactly what I was getting to but didn't want to throw it completely out if there was anything I could salvage from it. Unfortunately it is mostly unusable, I was looking for how it would even understand what mode we are in (handshake, login, etc) and all it knows are the original 0x00 handshake packets so I figured it was too old to even bother with.
2019-04-09 22:12:06	eleix	sorry I mean 0x00 keep alives ;) still pretty old no doubt.
2019-04-09 22:13:04	timmyRS	Maybe it's usuable reading and writing for the data types like VarInt, tho I'm not sure if they were already in 1.0
2019-04-09 22:15:18	eleix	sadly not, I found the old protocol page from around that time and MC only had 10 data types and VarInt was not one of them sadly 
2019-04-09 22:18:08	timmyRS	Welp, so, starting from scratch it is
2019-04-09 22:19:29	eleix	Not too concerned about starting from scatch, the code from 2011 only handled getting the client into the game, everything else wasn't handled so it's not a huge loss.
2019-04-09 22:24:36	<--	Unarelith (~Quent4234@static-176-158-117-112.ftth.abo.bbox.fr) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-04-10 00:07:33	<--	Morrolan (morrolan@znc.morrolan.ch) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-04-10 00:11:47	-->	Morrolan (morrolan@znc.morrolan.ch) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-10 01:11:04	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-04-10 01:21:31	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-10 02:05:52	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2019-04-10 02:32:39	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-10 02:33:49	-->	Mr_Gr33n (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:84cb:ea1:a70:5a84) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-10 02:36:48	<--	_MrGr33n_ (~None@BSN-142-194-111.static.siol.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2019-04-10 04:17:07	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF1DE400C900C0E461E3EF7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-04-10 04:27:16	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p54A3A266.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-10 06:46:27	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-10 06:48:54	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-04-10 06:48:54	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-04-10 07:10:32	<--	grumble (~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble) a quitté (Quit: If we're putting dbus in the linux kernel, I want a Java RMI registry there too.)
2019-04-10 07:16:47	-->	grumble (~~~@freenode/staff/grumble) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-10 17:10:26	 *	PolarizedIons waits 
2019-04-10 17:13:05	Not-e6c6	[New-Mc-Version] Minecraft snapshot 1.14 Pre-Release 1 has just been released!
2019-04-10 17:13:59	PolarizedIons	https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-1-14-pre-release-1
2019-04-10 17:15:13	Not-e6c6	[Burger] New data now avaliable for 1.14 Pre-Release 1:
2019-04-10 17:15:15	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Diff from 19w14b: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w14b_1.14 Pre-Release 1.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w14b_1.14 Pre-Release 1.json)
2019-04-10 17:15:16	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.14 Pre-Release 1.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.14 Pre-Release 1.json)
2019-04-10 17:31:52	-->	sebagius7110 (~sebagius7@proximyst.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-10 17:32:47	+pokechu22	I guess they've decided they like spaces in version names now; good thing it was done for 3D shareware before
2019-04-10 17:33:13	-->	Proximyst (~proximyst@proximyst.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-10 17:37:40	PolarizedIons	breaks the link parser in my client :|
2019-04-10 18:21:56	+ammar2	same
2019-04-10 19:00:53	kashike	breaks lots of things >.>
2019-04-10 19:15:51	PolarizedIons	pokechu22: mind .replaceAll(" ", "%20") or something on those links for next time please? :)
2019-04-10 19:43:59	<--	AndrewPH (Butts@omega.classicube.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2019-04-10 20:20:43	timmyRS	Woaw, pre-release already? O.o
2019-04-10 20:41:49	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004CEA031000F5FC97C4DC67B7DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-04-10 20:42:20	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004CEA031000F5FC97C4DC67B7DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-10 21:18:40	+pokechu22	Yeah, I can add the %20 to it, shouldn't be too hard.  Can't wait for mojang to start using the heiroglyph control characters in version names or something though :D
2019-04-10 21:23:44	+pokechu22	Huh, weirdly github pages doesn't like https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w14b_1.14+Pre-Release+1.html -- isn't plus supposed to also escape for space?
2019-04-10 21:26:20	kashike	pokechu22: https://stackoverflow.com/a/2678602
2019-04-10 21:30:11	timmyRS	I suppose some webservers just implemented it that way (by mistake) and this implementation detail became popular
2019-04-10 21:30:29	+pokechu22	I'm gonna run another test version to see if I've got escaping working right
2019-04-10 21:45:55	Not-e6c6	[Burger] New data now avaliable for 1.14 Pre-Release 1:
2019-04-10 21:45:56	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Diff from 19w14b: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w14b_1.14%20Pre-Release%201.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_19w14b_1.14%20Pre-Release%201.json)
2019-04-10 21:45:58	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.14%20Pre-Release%201.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.14%20Pre-Release%201.json)
2019-04-11 00:23:14	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@p54A3A266.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)
2019-04-11 00:24:00	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p200300D9DF189800ACCA4CC22B4EEA09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-11 02:05:47	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-04-11 02:29:39	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-11 02:31:40	-->	kev009_ (~kev009@ip72-222-200-117.ph.ph.cox.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-11 02:31:40	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v kev009_] par ChanServ
2019-04-11 02:32:15	<--	kev009 (~kev009@ip72-222-200-117.ph.ph.cox.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2019-04-11 02:32:46	<--	charims (~quassel@wsip-24-234-28-130.lv.lv.cox.net) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2019-04-11 02:34:05	-->	charims (~quassel@wsip-24-234-28-130.lv.lv.cox.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-11 02:35:32	<--	gabizou (~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2019-04-11 02:37:20	-->	gabizou (~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-11 03:44:06	timmyRS	Why is there a "cookingtime" attribute in smelting recipies if everything takes 200 ticks/10 seconds?
2019-04-11 03:50:12	+pokechu22	Probably so that they can take different amounts of time if wanted (and so that people making a map can tweak it with data packs)
2019-04-11 03:51:09	kashike	Not everything is 200
2019-04-11 03:51:29	+pokechu22	Oh, right, and there's also the blast furnace and the smoker (I think that's what it's called?) which presumably have it at 100 ticks
2019-04-11 03:51:36	kashike	in 1.14: data/minecraft/recipes/cooked_mutton_from_campfire_cooking.json for example - "cookingtime": 600
2019-04-11 03:52:24	timmyRS	Weird, I thought the campfire just took the normal cooking time * 3
2019-04-11 03:52:44	timmyRS	Instead, it's a different recipe? O.o
2019-04-11 03:52:59	+pokechu22	Yup, so that you can define things that could only be cooked in a campfire for instance
2019-04-11 03:53:46	timmyRS	Seems like it's also different recipes for "smoking" instead of just taking the time / 2
2019-04-11 03:53:50	timmyRS	Certainly interesting
2019-04-11 03:54:52	+pokechu22	I've gone through and named all the unknown packets (https://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Chunk_Position is still mysterious and I think I described it _very_ wrong, but the rest seem right to me)
2019-04-11 06:01:27	+pokechu22	TkTech: would you be willing to install https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Variables ?  It would be useful for entity metadata (and probably other things) since the addition of something near the start could have the rest just be calculated automatically.
2019-04-11 06:45:22	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-11 06:47:35	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-04-11 06:47:35	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2019-04-11 09:29:34	thekinrar	Any idea why I have no issue sending flat worlds to the notchian client while it crashes when I send a normal world? Both being loaded by reading .mca files. I get crashes either with almost no info or just "error while tesselating block/liquid".
2019-04-11 11:31:17	-->	_MrGr33n_ (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:dd8b:45ba:ade1:ab7f) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-11 11:34:43	<--	Mr_Gr33n (~None@2a00:ee2:2702:ee00:84cb:ea1:a70:5a84) a quitté (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2019-04-11 14:11:18	<--	yangm97 (yangm97mat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bktbubeqwqfizabc) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2019-04-11 14:11:29	<--	Moep[m] (moepmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-mlybkdpyhveaejzp) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2019-04-11 14:12:05	<--	Processus42 (processus4@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-sghelzeswkuattpv) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2019-04-11 14:14:51	<--	gabizou (~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2019-04-11 14:17:18	-->	gabizou (~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-11 14:37:56	<--	grumble (~~~@freenode/staff/grumble) a quitté #mcdevs
2019-04-11 15:51:29	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2019-04-11 16:04:13	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-11 16:18:37	<--	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a quitté (Quit: lax is dum lol)
2019-04-11 16:22:47	-->	Byteflux (~byte@byteflux.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2019-04-11 17:13:48	+Amaranth	flat worlds are unlikely to have water
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2019-04-11 18:26:47	+pokechu22	IIRC that message can relate to invalid biomes leading to null biomes, causing issues when coloring grass or water.  (And you can get a bit of water in villages, though the majority is grass...)
2019-04-11 18:27:28	+pokechu22	Depends on the block being tesselated, of course.  If it's something other than grass or water then who knows... but that information should be in the report somewhere
2019-04-11 18:28:42	thekinrar	it was various blocks
2019-04-11 18:29:02	thekinrar	just figured out my palette was wrong when there were a 2^n count of states in the section
2019-04-11 18:29:28	thekinrar	so I guess MC was just reading nonsense 
2019-04-11 18:29:41	thekinrar	thank for your help :)
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2019-04-12 10:25:13	timmyRS	Let's all bask in our superiority as users without web clients
2019-04-12 10:40:38	PolarizedIons	>.>
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2019-04-12 14:29:04	Not-e6c6	[New-Mc-Version] Minecraft snapshot 1.14 Pre-Release 2 has just been released!
2019-04-12 14:32:09	PolarizedIons	https://www.minecraft.net/nl-nl/article/minecraft-1-14-pre-release-1
2019-04-12 14:34:36	Not-e6c6	[Burger] New data now avaliable for 1.14 Pre-Release 2:
2019-04-12 14:34:38	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Diff from 1.14 Pre-Release 1: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.14%20Pre-Release%201_1.14%20Pre-Release%202.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_1.14%20Pre-Release%201_1.14%20Pre-Release%202.json)
2019-04-12 14:34:39	Not-e6c6	[Burger] Full data: https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.14%20Pre-Release%202.html (https://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.14%20Pre-Release%202.json)
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2019-04-12 21:09:40	timmyRS	Couldn't you make the diff thing a bit more flexible so that, for example, "full data" also takes up the full screen, and that in theory you could compare 3 or more versions at a time?
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2019-04-13 01:05:04	+pokechu22	It'd be neat to do 3 version diffs (and I think the code theoretically might work that way, or at least would be not too hard to modify like that) but I'm not sure what the use case would be (or what to actually include).  For "full data", _kinda_, but it's using the same stylesheet and the actual data wouldn't be presented any differently presumably.  And all of this is based on fairly old code that I'm
2019-04-13 01:05:06	+pokechu22	maintaining but didn't write and does some weird stuff
2019-04-13 01:05:51	+pokechu22	https://pokechu22.github.io/BurgerWebViewer/ is a (very laggy) thing that is worth messing with if you want to compare other versions
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