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2017-07-10 10:43:47	rom1504	can't see why there would be a reasonable reason
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2017-07-10 12:39:58	usbpc	I'm currently playing around with the Realms API as documented here http://wiki.vg/Realms_API to download a world backup. The thing is the endpoint (https://mcoapi.minecraft.net/) documented there gives back a SSL certificate for *.realms.minecraft.net. So I'm wondering if there is a newer Endpoint or if Mojang just dosen't care about the SSL Certificate?
2017-07-10 12:42:36	+Dinnerbone	The documentation is out of date. We switched to pc.realms.minecraft.net some time ago
2017-07-10 12:43:44	usbpc	Awesome that works. Thank you! :)
2017-07-10 12:55:21	rom1504	what about peoapi.minecraft.net ?
2017-07-10 12:55:43	rom1504	is it now pe.realms.minecraft.net ?
2017-07-10 12:57:47	+Dinnerbone	I think it's pocket.realms.minecraft.net
2017-07-10 13:00:38	rom1504	ok I updated the doc
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2017-07-10 13:17:48	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker pushed 2 commits to openhmd-demo [+1/-0/±3] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/2d1fb97aa99a...7c9ef44f3b32
2017-07-10 13:17:50	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker 70d83f7 - voxel: Tidy shader a bit
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2017-07-10 14:47:53	usbpc	I think I found another mistake in the documentation here http://wiki.vg/Realms_API. Response for the /worlds Endpoint dosen't contain "worlds" anymore, but instead renamed it to "servers"
2017-07-10 14:48:07	usbpc	Probobly outdated, not a mistake
2017-07-10 14:54:06	rom1504	usbpc: update it ;)
2017-07-10 14:55:30	usbpc	You forgot the example ;)
2017-07-10 14:56:11	usbpc	But awesome work on the documentation, it is really helping me a lot :D
2017-07-10 15:00:53	rom1504	I meant you can update that (the worlds thing)
2017-07-10 15:00:56	rom1504	it's a wiki
2017-07-10 15:02:19	usbpc	ohhh, sorry. I'll do that now
2017-07-10 15:37:07	rom1504	anybody has a clue why it's needed to wait a bit between a ping and a connection ?
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2017-07-11 05:09:09	aphelion	what packet is fired when a new entity is rendered?
2017-07-11 05:09:16	aphelion	as in, a player is rendered by the client
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2017-07-11 05:17:33	pokechu22	There isn't exactly a packet for rendering; the client has a max render distance (that differs by entity) which is different from the distance it "knows" about an entity.  But to add an entity, there's several packets depending on the type
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2017-07-11 11:41:20	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/2b16be9e908b...a1c3b3e85ba9
2017-07-11 11:41:22	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker fcf8bbe - voxel: Flip magica models x axis
2017-07-11 11:41:23	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker a1c3b3e - voxel: Tidy shader a bit
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2017-07-11 16:12:13	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker pushed 2 commits to master [+2/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/a1c3b3e85ba9...3af64b0e0777
2017-07-11 16:12:15	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker 99c6336 - lib: Add optional OpenHMD bindings
2017-07-11 16:12:16	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker 3af64b0 - lib: Update bingings a bit
2017-07-11 16:12:27	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker pushed 3 commits to openhmd-demo [+6/-1/±4] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/7c9ef44f3b32...3b2cd1517b8a
2017-07-11 16:12:28	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker 5ab16c8 - ohmd: Add minimal VR demo
2017-07-11 16:12:30	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker b3a8d59 - ohmd: Work in progress
2017-07-11 16:12:31	Not-75c6	[Charge] Wallbraker 3b2cd15 - ohmd: Expand the scene with a wall
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2017-07-11 17:51:41	Tachyon_	so, each text component can have "extra" ? like, the childs of the main one can also have childs which can then have childs and so on and so forth ?
2017-07-11 17:59:36	pokechu22	Yes
2017-07-11 18:04:58	Tachyon_	good
2017-07-11 18:08:54	timmyRS	But what is the point of using extra on an extra when extra is an array?
2017-07-11 18:13:02	Meeeh	to inherit style
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2017-07-11 18:14:00	rom1504	implement css on this already
2017-07-11 18:14:29	Meeeh	as extra will have this same style as parent, so it is especially helpfull if you have some events timmyRS 
2017-07-11 18:15:07	Meeeh	as you don't need add that event to each element in array that is part of event-text, you only create new parent for it
2017-07-11 18:15:57	timmyRS	makes sense, thanks
2017-07-11 18:30:27	Tachyon_	you are sugesting that the parent style changes, so will the kids ones ?
2017-07-11 18:32:13	Tachyon_	like, in an implementation, would you update the kids too ?
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2017-07-11 18:33:45	Tachyon_	I wouldn't
2017-07-11 18:34:12	Tachyon_	I'm  not sure you can even reliable do it
2017-07-11 18:42:12	Tachyon_	does vanilla/spigot uses more than like, the main components + his childs ?
2017-07-11 18:42:22	Tachyon_	more than 2 depths ?
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2017-07-11 19:08:49	pokechu22	Vanilla has each style reference the parent's style, recursively (the style containing colors/other formatting, and events).  The style has fields (which are optional to signify "not overwritten") and methods that recursively look it up to the parent.
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2017-07-11 20:29:54	Tachyon_	pokechu22: and if the style is it just creates a new style independent from the one of the parent ?
2017-07-11 20:30:12	Tachyon_	if the style is overritten *
2017-07-11 20:30:57	pokechu22	No, it still references the parent; for fields that are overwritten it just doesn't use the one from the parent
2017-07-11 20:32:57	Tachyon_	so, if it has the same style and all the things the same, I can combine the parent with the first child or two consecutive childs, right ?
2017-07-11 20:33:01	Tachyon_	some kind of normalization
2017-07-11 20:34:19	pokechu22	Yea, you can combine them in some cases
2017-07-11 20:34:34	pokechu22	But if you do, you need to be careful about modifying them later
2017-07-11 20:35:45	Tachyon_	I'm thinking my implementation like: you can add, normalize, and get the json. I don't see why I would need modifying
2017-07-11 20:45:28	pokechu22	Yea, that'd be fine
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2017-07-11 22:49:46	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech pushed 3 commits to master [+1/-0/±5] https://github.com/TkTech/Jawa/compare/98d35b9f5313...9525b7b8b8c9
2017-07-11 22:49:48	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 492e04e - Return ConstantClass entries from the pool instead of indexes from ClassFile.interfaces
2017-07-11 22:49:49	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 6d71417 - Typo in docstring
2017-07-11 22:49:50	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 9525b7b - Attributes require two new properties, ADDED_IN and MINIMUM_CLASS_VERSION to improve detail in output.
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2017-07-11 23:25:11	tktech	Fuuuuuuuuuuckkkkk youuuuuuuuuuu Oraaaaaccccclllllleeeeeeeee
2017-07-11 23:25:42	tktech	Almost 900 LoC added to Jawa and counting to support assembling StackMapTables 
2017-07-11 23:29:54	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech deleted branch speed_freak
2017-07-11 23:30:05	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech deleted branch context
2017-07-11 23:30:16	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech deleted branch KISS
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2017-07-11 23:47:22	rom1504	did anyone have problem with pinging to get the server version then connecting using that version ?
2017-07-11 23:47:59	rom1504	it seems if I don't wait a bit, problems happen
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2017-07-12 00:10:55	tktech	rom1504: Connect -> handshake -> request <- response -> disconnect ;; connect -> *problems*?
2017-07-12 00:11:09	tktech	rom1504: That should be entirely stateless, odd you'd see a problem there
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2017-07-12 02:20:18	timmyRS	I re-added 0x04 to the entity base class documentation, as I was really confused by it missing there.
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2017-07-12 05:47:21	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech pushed 1 commit to develop [+2/-0/±1] https://github.com/TkTech/Jawa/commit/596fdb40f21d
2017-07-12 05:47:23	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 596fdb4 - Read-only support for StackMapTable [screw you Java])
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2017-07-12 06:39:02	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech pushed 1 commit to develop [+3/-0/±1] https://github.com/TkTech/Jawa/compare/596fdb40f21d...caaaaa3131d0
2017-07-12 06:39:04	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech caaaaa3 - Add basic read test for StackMapTable covering SL1SI, FF. Fix various bugs.
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2017-07-12 08:59:55	rom1504	tktech: yes it's a different connection so it should be completely unrelated. I don't know why that happens
2017-07-12 09:01:33	+SpaceManiac	rom1504: MC server doesn't like if you connect too rapidly
2017-07-12 09:01:50	+SpaceManiac	at least historically speaking
2017-07-12 10:09:20	+md_5	vanilla has no rate limit
2017-07-12 10:40:21	Hafydd	rom1504: I use a client that does that regularly, and have never had any problems.
2017-07-12 10:40:51	Hafydd	What were the problems you did encounter?
2017-07-12 10:49:38	rom1504	I'm getting Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: The received encoded string buffer length is longer than maximum allowed (335 > 64)
2017-07-12 10:49:44	rom1504	from the vanilla server
2017-07-12 10:50:03	rom1504	after http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Handshake on the real connection (second one)
2017-07-12 10:50:27	rom1504	if I wait 1 second before starting the second connection then it works
2017-07-12 10:51:02	rom1504	hopefully the bug is in my client and not in the vanilla server
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2017-07-12 12:14:42	Hafydd	rom1504: in that case, did 335 equal the sum of the data sent so far from both connections?
2017-07-12 12:15:16	Hafydd	Oh, wait... maybe that isn't what "string buffer" means.
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2017-07-12 12:24:59	rom1504	yeah I'm not sure
2017-07-12 12:25:15	rom1504	but I think I figured it out, somehow it's sending the packet 2 times
2017-07-12 12:25:19	rom1504	my bug
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2017-07-12 13:09:29	rom1504	ok I was just indeed sending the packet 2 times because of some specific case only triggered in these conditions. Now fixed, thanks for the help
2017-07-12 13:11:54	Tachyon_	what are you working on
2017-07-12 13:18:31	rom1504	node-minecraft-protocol client has automatic multiversion support and it was somehow broken in online mode, I'm fixing that
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2017-07-12 13:40:35	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/PrismarineJS/mineflayer/compare/09ee74f259ef...983a74ae977d
2017-07-12 13:40:36	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 983a74a - update minecraft-protocol, fix #551
2017-07-12 13:42:44	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 5 commits to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/PrismarineJS/mineflayer/compare/983a74ae977d...913cc2714fc2
2017-07-12 13:42:45	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] SuperOP535 a059bf7 - Fix code typo
2017-07-12 13:42:47	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] SuperOP535 cdd22cb - Update chatterbox.js
2017-07-12 13:42:48	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] SuperOP535 86b38ef - Update chatterbox.js
2017-07-12 13:42:50	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] ... and 2 more commits.
2017-07-12 13:46:49	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/PrismarineJS/mineflayer/compare/913cc2714fc2...e119fe8f9fd4
2017-07-12 13:46:50	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 0d71c9b - Release 2.6.0
2017-07-12 13:46:52	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 e119fe8 - Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master'
2017-07-12 13:47:14	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 tagged e119fe8 as 2.6.0 https://github.com/PrismarineJS/mineflayer/commit/e119fe8f9fd45e072a38721a2131ef648533573f
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2017-07-12 21:30:58	tktech	There really isn't any comprehensive test coverage for any JDK implementation :(
2017-07-12 21:31:39	tktech	Not a single one has any test for the full range of StackMapTable entry types :(
2017-07-12 21:35:12	tktech	Normally the minecraft jar ends up being a good coverage test but proguard is doing something super funky 
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2017-07-13 03:20:49	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech pushed 2 commits to develop [+2/-0/±7] https://github.com/TkTech/Jawa/compare/caaaaa3131d0...f44d50a09a4d
2017-07-13 03:20:51	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 53874cf - Move ClassFile loading to fixtures in tests.
2017-07-13 03:20:52	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech f44d50a - Add Exceptions attribute. Move all Attributes over to BufferStreamReader.
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2017-07-13 05:40:11	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@p200300ED83D0490061657CA62BF4CDC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-07-13 07:07:27	<--	GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
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2017-07-13 07:23:02	<--	zhuyifei1999_ (uid97661@wikimedia/zhuyifei1999) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
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2017-07-13 08:43:54	-->	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-07-13 11:20:25	<--	laxask (~lax@h-187-69.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
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2017-07-13 13:42:26	-->	oldmanmike (~oldmanmik@pool-173-75-221-55.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-07-13 14:15:07	-->	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-07-13 14:41:30	-->	deep-book-gk_ (~1wm_su@94.242.252.58) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-07-13 15:18:23	<--	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
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2017-07-13 15:40:26	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/PrismarineJS/mineflayer/compare/e119fe8f9fd4...9b671c0a03a1
2017-07-13 15:40:27	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] plexigras 6933c6e - added plugins to bot options
2017-07-13 15:40:29	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] plexigras b86dd95 - added plugin options to api.docs
2017-07-13 15:40:30	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 9b671c0 - Merge pull request #557 from plexigras/internal-plugin-opts added plugins to bot options
2017-07-13 16:27:41	<--	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
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2017-07-13 19:54:08	-->	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-07-13 20:00:39	--	Tachyon_ est maintenant connu sous le nom _Tachyon
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2017-07-13 20:54:05	-->	MeltedLux (MeltedLux@help.lux.melted.me) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-07-14 00:14:08	-->	oldmanmike (~oldmanmik@pool-173-75-221-55.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-07-14 04:03:45	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-07-14 04:05:13	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2017-07-14 04:05:13	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
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2017-07-14 07:26:07	Hafydd	Does anyone know what is going on with <http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Map_item_format#Color_table>? There are small differences (of 0-3) between the colour values in the "base" table and the 1.12 table, which leads me to think they were measured in different ways but refer to the same colours.
2017-07-14 07:26:40	Hafydd	Edit messages refer to getting colours from screenshots and from the source code, but it's currently unclear which are from where.
2017-07-14 07:38:24	Hafydd	I should say from the code, not from the source code, as I assume it was decompiled.
2017-07-14 08:58:50	pokechu22	Hm
2017-07-14 08:59:59	pokechu22	Probably from MCP, which is more or less completely accurate (especially for constants).  And I do think they may have actually changed the colors in 1.12 (it's the "world of color" update, after all).
2017-07-14 09:04:46	pokechu22	Checked with MCP... doesn't look like there's a difference to any of the "base" colors, just new colors added
2017-07-14 09:05:42	Hafydd	Does MCP get its data from Mojang's code?
2017-07-14 09:07:28	pokechu22	MCP decompiles from the code (which is deobfuscates using both searge-provided SRG mappings for classes+as a base and community-generated names+comments for everything else)
2017-07-14 09:08:34	pokechu22	Also note that if you use forge, forge uses the same mappings (and most of the toolchain) as MCP
2017-07-14 09:09:04	Hafydd	Ah.
2017-07-14 09:09:26	Hafydd	Good to know. Thanks.
2017-07-14 09:09:58	pokechu22	... when I say "from the code" I mean the game JAR, oops
2017-07-14 09:10:24	Hafydd	That's what I assumed. It is a type of code.
2017-07-14 09:13:23	pokechu22	Anyways, I don't see any obvious change to the way the colors are generated; probably they were measured in different ways.  It's really late for me though so I'm going to go to sleep
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2017-07-14 13:11:27	-->	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-07-14 17:55:20	<--	laxask (~lax@h-187-69.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) a quitté (Changing host)
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2017-07-14 19:54:59	Meeeh	what weird thing is mojang doing that they are looking for c++ programmers and asking about "We’re currently extending our team to design, develop and maintain extensibility features for Minecraft, adding the possibility to extend our C++ codebase to enable similar possibilities as Minecraft: Java Edition mods."
2017-07-14 19:55:38	Meeeh	They plan to replace java version with cpp one? with shitty api? as this sounds quite like that...
2017-07-14 20:06:07	+ammar2	it feels like they've been trying to phase out java for the win10/c++ version for a fair bit of time
2017-07-14 20:10:26	Meeeh	ammar2, but isn't cpp version more like microsoft one?
2017-07-14 20:10:47	+ammar2	yes, they kinda own the game
2017-07-14 20:10:52	+ammar2	they do whatever they want with it
2017-07-14 20:11:13	Meeeh	but MS idea was to make cpp version of it
2017-07-14 20:11:21	Meeeh	for win10
2017-07-14 20:12:45	Meeeh	huh, that would kind of sucks, and split community (killing part of it)
2017-07-14 20:14:17	Meeeh	https://mojang.workable.com/ but maybe it is only for that relams stuff
2017-07-14 20:15:46	Meeeh	huh, maybe someone from mojang Dinnerbon/Gru can clarify that? Would be great to know what is going on. or is that "top secret" :D
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2017-07-14 20:43:20	Tachyon_	minecraft educational edition is in c=+
2017-07-14 20:44:15	Tachyon_	maybe they want to support it in parallel
2017-07-14 20:44:30	Tachyon_	I really doubt they are that dumb to kill the java edition
2017-07-14 20:48:18	Tachyon_	to be honest I would rather play the c++ edition than the java one when it comes to vanilla
2017-07-14 20:56:00	Meeeh	why?
2017-07-14 20:56:06	Meeeh	Tachyon_, 
2017-07-14 20:57:44	Tachyon_	it shoudn't make a difference for vanilla
2017-07-14 20:58:04	Tachyon_	a cpp version will suposelly consume less
2017-07-14 21:04:45	Tachyon_	I understand that the possibility of modding java is what made minecraft because what it is, and I don't want to kill it
2017-07-14 21:04:57	Tachyon_	but I'm really not a big fan of it
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2017-07-14 21:24:53	MiniDigger	community is already split
2017-07-14 21:25:22	MiniDigger	the bedrock editions (the new c++ engine is called bedrock) already have way more sold units
2017-07-14 21:26:00	MiniDigger	but idk, java team still has enough devs to properly do stuff and I hope they will do so for the next years
2017-07-14 21:29:38	Tachyon_	Meeeh: MiniDigger: https://i.imgflip.com/1sifj2.jpg
2017-07-14 21:30:37	MiniDigger	nah, they actually work together (or just copy features, nobody knows)
2017-07-14 21:31:50	Tachyon_	I don't suppose it's available outsite mojang ?
2017-07-14 21:41:54	MiniDigger	what? 
2017-07-14 21:43:17	Tachyon_	that bedrock thing
2017-07-14 21:53:50	MiniDigger	no, its just for their mc editions
2017-07-14 21:54:13	MiniDigger	and iirc mojang didn't even develop that but that other studio that works on mc
2017-07-14 21:59:53	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/PrismarineJS/mineflayer/compare/9b671c0a03a1...06b213b86ac9
2017-07-14 21:59:55	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] plexigras a01c82c - fix chatmessage version pass down
2017-07-14 21:59:56	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 06b213b - Merge pull request #564 from plexigras/fix-chatMessage fix chatmessage version pass down
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2017-07-14 22:51:04	--	aphelion est maintenant connu sous le nom aphel
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2017-07-15 21:46:30	AJM	For some reason, armor stand names are rendered higher on 1.9 and 1.10 clients unlike 1.8 where it is normal
2017-07-15 21:46:53	AJM	Anybody know why this is the case on my end?
2017-07-15 21:54:43	MiniDigger	Vanilla change iirc 
2017-07-15 21:56:58	AJM	Hmm I tried spawning the armor stand lower for 1.9 and 10 clients, no luck still
2017-07-15 22:07:00	timmyRS	AJM, is the height different of that much of a significance that it breaks your use-case?
2017-07-15 22:10:42	AJM	yes
2017-07-15 22:11:17	AJM	I spawn it at a specific location where that 0.5+ y distance makes it a problem
2017-07-15 22:12:09	AJM	Although, I am onto something right now with the head height that might play a factor in this problem
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2017-07-16 05:05:31	bugfroggy	Hi. I've actually been here before but took a break from my project for a few months. Unfortunately I'm still stuck. I'm working on (essentially) rewriting a lot of the Minecraft protocol in a language other than Java, but last time I tried, I got stuck at the Encryption Request packet. Everything in the packet looks fine, except for the actual public key, which looks like a bunch of random bytes. From what I could find on the wiki
2017-07-16 05:10:46	bugfroggy	Here's a sample of the "public key" from the local server I'm using to test: https://pastebin.com/EgWMwMK9 I haven't been able to find any useful information here.
2017-07-16 05:18:12	+ammar2	that's fairly normal
2017-07-16 05:18:27	+ammar2	the public key is in a special binary format that's not really supposed to be human readable
2017-07-16 05:18:53	+ammar2	what language are you writing in and what library do you plan on using for encryption?
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2017-07-16 05:56:24	bugfroggy	@ammar2 Maybe I misinterpreted what the wiki article said then. I've been working in PHP, and as for what library, any that I can get to work properly, although defuse/php-encryption is what I was planning on using.
2017-07-16 05:58:12	bugfroggy	Is the gibberish binary the key itself then, or is it retained within that somewhere?
2017-07-16 05:58:23	+ammar2	the format its in is specifically called DER, taking a quick look at defuse, looks like there isn't an easy way to load a key in that format from it
2017-07-16 05:58:38	+ammar2	bugfroggy: its inside it, but the actual numbers that represent a public key look gibberish to a human
2017-07-16 05:59:00	+ammar2	you wouldn't really be able to read it even if you could understand the format by hand
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2017-07-16 06:01:01	bugfroggy	ammar2: Good to know. I have looked at the wiki page and it talks about ASN.1 format (which I've had no experience with up until now). I was expecting something that looked remotely like that example but I couldn't produce a satisfactory result. Do you know of any other libraries that would do what I need?
2017-07-16 06:01:34	bugfroggy	I was planning on working with phpseclib originally but then switched.
2017-07-16 06:01:52	+ammar2	you can probably use the php openssl api, one sec
2017-07-16 06:02:12	+ammar2	http://php.net/manual/en/ref.openssl.php control+f for "der2pem"
2017-07-16 06:02:16	+ammar2	you would run the key through that method
2017-07-16 06:02:19	+ammar2	and then pass it to http://php.net/manual/en/function.openssl-pkey-get-public.php
2017-07-16 06:03:06	+ammar2	and then use this to actually encrypt the data http://php.net/manual/en/function.openssl-public-encrypt.php
2017-07-16 06:03:27	+ammar2	but try seeing if you can just do the first part yet without any errors
2017-07-16 06:03:37	bugfroggy	the "key" being the entire 162 bytes?
2017-07-16 06:03:45	bugfroggy	(or however many it was)
2017-07-16 06:03:46	+ammar2	yup
2017-07-16 06:04:03	bugfroggy	Alright thanks a ton. I'll try that and see what I can figure out for now and then be back here again if I get stuck. :)
2017-07-16 06:04:18	+ammar2	good luck
2017-07-16 06:32:50	bugfroggy	ammar2: A little stuck again unfortunately.. openssl_pkey_get_public returns false, which is an error. Can't seem to figure out why, I don't know if you'd have any ideas. I'm feeding it this string: https://pastebin.com/YkXQZVtc
2017-07-16 06:34:08	bugfroggy	I have phpseclib loaded in at the moment, but I'm not sure where I'd start with it. This whole encryption deal is a little confusing for me.
2017-07-16 06:35:35	bugfroggy	Ah, actually, may have just figured it out.
2017-07-16 06:35:52	bugfroggy	instead of -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- I think I need -----BEGIN PUBLIC KEY-----
2017-07-16 06:40:06	+ammar2	yeah that'll do it
2017-07-16 06:43:45	+ammar2	also openssl_error_string might give you a more helpful error whne it returns false
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2017-07-16 16:16:59	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech pushed 1 commit to develop [+3/-0/±0] https://github.com/TkTech/Jawa/compare/f44d50a09a4d...0db150a75f64
2017-07-16 16:17:00	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 0db150a - Add tests for the Exceptions method attribute.
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2017-07-16 17:36:11	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech pushed 3 commits to develop [+2/-0/±2] https://github.com/TkTech/Jawa/compare/0db150a75f64...1eb1851e4dec
2017-07-16 17:36:12	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 89284e6 - Add repr for ExceptionsAttribute.
2017-07-16 17:36:14	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 4da6060 - Add LineNumberTable attribute support.
2017-07-16 17:36:15	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 1eb1851 - Add LineNumberTable tests
2017-07-16 18:15:09	tktech	LocalVariableTable attribute and then it's 100% Java SE 1.1 (CF v. 45.3) compliant, 5 years later lmao
2017-07-16 18:17:08	tktech	pokechu22: looks like the server jars have the LVT and LNT attributes still attached 
2017-07-16 18:17:41	tktech	pokechu22: Haven't taken a good look yet but if proguard leaves anything in them for debugging (probably does so error reports aren't insane) it might be useful 
2017-07-16 18:19:12	pokechu22	Ah, makes sense; I do remember ☃ all over the place for LocalVariableTable.  LineNumberTable has always been there for debugging; it's pretty useful; LocalVariableTable is new but I think it was actually added for MCP so that MCP could theoretically name local variables (but I'm not sure of that) as otherwise it has little use for debugging
2017-07-16 18:20:30	tktech	Is that the little unicode snowman?
2017-07-16 18:20:35	tktech	Thta's both hilarious and evil
2017-07-16 18:20:55	tktech	JAD was notorious for crashing on all unicode symbols
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2017-07-16 18:22:46	tktech	The StackMapTable is also parsed now, and since Minecraft is now built for newer versions of Java it's populated
2017-07-16 18:23:14	pokechu22	Yea, I looked at that once in the spec and noped out... that thing's kinda scary looking
2017-07-16 18:23:28	tktech	For the psuedo-decompiliation it can be used to verify correctness since you can verify the type for your given local
2017-07-16 18:23:53	tktech	Yeah, misery to implement
2017-07-16 18:24:10	tktech	It's R/O for now in develop since I haven't finished the verifier in the assemble() helper
2017-07-16 18:24:14	tktech	It's 1000+ LoC now
2017-07-16 19:01:57	tktech	pokechu22: https://gist.github.com/TkTech/824d062d01c4db1185edee28aa9c7751 yup there's the snowman
2017-07-16 19:02:31	tktech	A simple decompiler would likely happily sub in those names for your locals instead of generated positional ones
2017-07-16 19:02:45	tktech	Making every assignment go to a snowman and making it completely unreadable 
2017-07-16 19:05:03	pokechu22	Oh, right, does localvariabletable also affect parameters?
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2017-07-16 19:06:25	tktech	Yeah, the first few slots are your method args
2017-07-16 19:09:33	pokechu22	IIRC those tables are actually accurate other than the name, so just substituting the ☃ for par1, par2, var1, etc would give very useful results
2017-07-16 19:12:31	tktech	Yeah the main thing would be that + the SMT to verify assumptions you're making when doing the psuedo java
2017-07-16 19:12:59	tktech	You know what class you expect to be there, and if the SMT says hm no that's wrong in this frame local 5 should be obj AJ you know it's incorrect
2017-07-16 19:13:47	tktech	The main thing is those tables can't be *wrong*
2017-07-16 19:14:11	tktech	They could be totally absent, since they're optional (SMT is mandatory now but wasn't always)
2017-07-16 19:14:22	tktech	But they can't be wrong since the verifier will kill it
2017-07-16 19:14:47	tktech	So proguard can't really use them to break things or lie to you
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2017-07-16 19:43:40	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 0a0ac82 - Deprecated attribute support.
2017-07-16 19:43:41	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 3813561 - LocalVariableTable attribute support.
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2017-07-16 20:58:07	bugfroggy	ammar2: and anyone else who might be able to help me: So I've gotten working what you helped me with last night (the public key), but I'm confused for the next part. Wiki says I dont use the public key anymore, so I assume I use the shared secret. I'm kind of lost on what that means, though. Do you have any good way of explaining, or any material I could use to read up on this?
2017-07-16 21:02:32	bugfroggy	It also says "Note that the AES cipher is updated continuously, not finished and restarted every packet." Does this mean I can decrypt the bytes individually? Even if I figure out how to decrypt stuff, I can't picture the process, because I need the length of the packet (which is encrypted) before I can do anything else.
2017-07-16 21:03:19	bugfroggy	(and to me, logically, decrypting the first VarInt on it's own wouldn't work as you'd need to decrypt everything together)
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2017-07-16 21:13:25	tktech	bugfroggy: if you're not familiar with it I recommend taking a look at someone else's implementation 
2017-07-16 21:13:36	tktech	Might help it click for you
2017-07-16 21:17:51	tktech	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/src/client/encrypt.js
2017-07-16 21:21:51	bugfroggy	tktech Thanks. I was looking for an implementation but couldn't find one. I'll check that out first
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2017-07-16 21:35:29	bugfroggy	tktech: That example doesn't help me much unfortunately. That covers steps I've already completed (receiving encryption request and sending encryption response). Where I'm stuck is decrypting packets beyond that point.
2017-07-16 21:36:30	bugfroggy	The wiki suggests I use the shared secret to both encrypt and decrypt packets, but I don't use the server's public key at all.
2017-07-16 21:37:15	bugfroggy	To me that seems like a security risk, considering it's only 16 bytes, which is where I'm sort of stuck and confused.
2017-07-16 21:37:40	bugfroggy	Do I use the encrypted shared secret instead?
2017-07-16 21:40:52	bugfroggy	In the repository provided there's only two instances of decrypting data and that's in the server code. Do I not decrypt data as the client?
2017-07-16 21:46:18	bugfroggy	Nevermind, found where the "decipher" is "piped" into the socket. Still quite confused but I'll probably figure it out eventually.
2017-07-16 21:48:56	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech pushed 2 commits to develop [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/TkTech/Jawa/compare/3813561033f9...3d82dd748a5e
2017-07-16 21:48:57	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 9b8589f - Fix PEP8 errors introduced in d82b4d01
2017-07-16 21:48:59	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 3d82dd7 - Fix CHOP SMT frame when first frame. Fix typo in SAME_FRAME_EXTENDED.
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2017-07-16 21:58:28	+ammar2	bugfroggy: so you generate a random cryptographically secure shared secret that's 16 bytes long and then you encrypt it with the server's public key and send it to the server
2017-07-16 21:58:40	+ammar2	along with some other stuff like that verification token
2017-07-16 21:59:03	+ammar2	this way the only way to decrypt it is with the private key, that only the server has
2017-07-16 21:59:17	+ammar2	and that's where the security of it comes from
2017-07-16 21:59:18	bugfroggy	Yep, I know that and have gotten that done
2017-07-16 21:59:56	bugfroggy	And when you encrypt it it's 128 bytes long. Is the 128-byte thing the shared secret or is the 16-byte thing the shared secret?
2017-07-16 22:00:36	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/PrismarineJS/mineflayer/compare/06b213b86ac9...124b838af980
2017-07-16 22:00:38	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] plexigras 124b838 - Release 2.6.1
2017-07-16 22:00:43	Not-75c6	[mineflayer] rom1504 tagged 124b838 as 2.6.1 https://github.com/PrismarineJS/mineflayer/commit/124b838af9800e8196725df9f3e89600b903254d
2017-07-16 22:00:44	bugfroggy	From what I've found just reading the past hour and a half or so, I need to somehow tell my socket connection to decrypt data as it comes in. But from what I can find, PHP doesn't have that ability very easily (if at all)
2017-07-16 22:00:51	bugfroggy	It's pretty bad at socket connections
2017-07-16 22:01:38	+ammar2	its 128 bytes long because that's the length of the RSA key. 
2017-07-16 22:01:49	+ammar2	1024 bit rsa key, 1024/8 = 128 bytes
2017-07-16 22:01:59	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech pushed 2 commits to develop [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/TkTech/Jawa/compare/3d82dd748a5e...318cceecc9a4
2017-07-16 22:02:00	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 33fbacb - ClassFile.interfaces is now a list not an iterator (usability improvement)
2017-07-16 22:02:02	Not-75c6	[Jawa] TkTech 318ccee - Start SMT parsing with a null-state FULL_FRAME (fixes APPENDS when first frame)
2017-07-16 22:02:20	+ammar2	but anyway
2017-07-16 22:02:35	+ammar2	yeah you do need to decrypt the data as it comes in from the socket
2017-07-16 22:03:01	+ammar2	this is how I do it https://github.com/ammaraskar/pyCraft/blob/master/minecraft/networking/encryption.py#L74
2017-07-16 22:03:22	+ammar2	which is I just made a wrapper on top of the existing socket class with the same receive and send methods
2017-07-16 22:03:23	bugfroggy	Okay. Well I found this github file here: https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/9c1925a1f2a8cbe58ec1e2e99ef9f43209f24d07/src/client.js Here they seemingly "attach" the secret key to the socket, which decrypts the data for you I guess.
2017-07-16 22:03:35	bugfroggy	PHP doesn't have that feature from what I can find. I'll check out your file.
2017-07-16 22:03:56	+ammar2	PHP doesn't have to support it built in, you can just do it yourself like I did
2017-07-16 22:04:00	tktech	There have been PHP clients/servers before, tho they may use OpenSSL directly
2017-07-16 22:04:33	+ammar2	there's probably some libraries that expose a nicer api tho
2017-07-16 22:04:38	+ammar2	openssl is horrible to work with
2017-07-16 22:06:46	+ammar2	bugfroggy: you said you're using phpseclib, right? This is the relevant class from there https://api.phpseclib.org/master/phpseclib/Crypt/AES.html
2017-07-16 22:07:12	+ammar2	you'll be using the encrypt and decrypt methods in there
2017-07-16 22:07:53	bugfroggy	ammar2: Hmm, alright. I'll look into making my own. I suspect I'll get stuck, simply because I'm still not entirely sure what "shared secret" means entirely. Yea, phpseclib. I could use that instead of the openssl library in the original encryption request as well, I assume?
2017-07-16 22:08:11	+ammar2	you don't have to
2017-07-16 22:08:12	bugfroggy	tktech: Yeah there are. I've found one or two, quite outdated though.
2017-07-16 22:08:22	+ammar2	if you have it working already, you can keep using openssl for the RSA bit
2017-07-16 22:08:40	+ammar2	this is for the actual game connection which uses AES
2017-07-16 22:08:51	+ammar2	two different encryption schemes
2017-07-16 22:09:06	bugfroggy	ammar2: Yeah I'm gonna keep openssl for now since I have it, although eventually I might try to switch just so I'm using the same library everywhere
2017-07-16 22:10:59	bugfroggy	so, just to check if I've got this right:
2017-07-16 22:12:02	bugfroggy	I use setIV and setKey, and for both pass the 128-byte encrypted shared secret?
2017-07-16 22:13:04	bugfroggy	and then use decrypt() on anything I want to decrypt?
2017-07-16 22:13:37	+ammar2	yup
2017-07-16 22:14:10	+ammar2	also set the mode to MODE_CFB
2017-07-16 22:17:25	bugfroggy	ammar2: Alright. But then, say I want to get the number of bytes in the packet, can I just decrypt the first VarInt, or do I have to decrypt the entire packet and then read it to get the first VarInt? Because if I have to decrypt the entire packet, how do I know how much to decrypt?
2017-07-16 22:17:51	+ammar2	you can just decrypt the first varint
2017-07-16 22:18:15	+ammar2	you can literally just read 1 byte off the stream and decrypt it one at a time
2017-07-16 22:19:24	bugfroggy	ammar2: That makes things a lot easier then. Thanks. I'll mess around with that a bit and see what I can do. Progress! :)
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2017-07-16 22:31:23	bugfroggy	ammar2: Don't know if I'm doing something wrong... Trying to get the length of the next packet (I assume the set encryption packet), but it's just gibberish https://bugg.co/i/?i=596bccbaf2fe2&lg=1
2017-07-16 22:31:27	bugfroggy	There's my code
2017-07-16 22:31:50	bugfroggy	and then it outputs random bytes, seemingly different each time
2017-07-16 22:33:11	+ammar2	how would readVarInt work if you decrypt after you read all of it
2017-07-16 22:33:24	+ammar2	you can't possibly read a VarInt if you don't read it byte by byte
2017-07-16 22:33:32	+ammar2	since then you don't know if there's a continuing byte
2017-07-16 22:34:10	bugfroggy	That's a good point..
2017-07-16 22:34:17	bugfroggy	Haha, I'll work on that
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2017-07-16 22:47:29	bugfroggy	ammar2: Sorry for bringing you into this so much, but I feel like I'm close to getting this working. Is reading the VarInt not as simple as just decrypting each byte before you read it? https://bugg.co/i/?i=596bd089c2564&lg=1
2017-07-16 22:48:11	+ammar2	yup that looks right
2017-07-16 22:49:05	bugfroggy	Hmm.. I've done something wrong then. I'm getting an integer each time (as you might expect), but the integer is different each time I run it, and it's not anywhere near what you'd expect.
2017-07-16 22:50:33	pokechu22	Can you print the decrypted bytes as you get them?  Also, make sure you're starting encryption at the right time
2017-07-16 22:52:39	bugfroggy	pokechu22: "make sure you're starting encryption at the right time" and when would that be? I'm trying to read right now, what I assume to be, the compression packet.
2017-07-16 22:55:40	bugfroggy	Interesting. The second I try to read the packet, This pops up in the server log: https://bugg.co/i/?i=596bd2a72a186&lg=1
2017-07-16 22:55:41	pokechu22	Should be enabled right after you receive encryption response.  Yea, the next one should be the compression packet (or the login success packet).  Might actually be a good idea to disable compression on the server and see whether you're getting the login success packet
2017-07-16 22:56:05	bugfroggy	pokechu22: btw, I'm creating a client, not a server. 
2017-07-16 22:56:22	pokechu22	Yea, but while you're testing it may be a good idea to disable it on your test server
2017-07-16 22:56:33	bugfroggy	so I'm sending the encryption response, not receiving it. I'll disable compression and see how that turns out.
2017-07-16 22:56:40	pokechu22	Oh, hm
2017-07-16 22:57:37	pokechu22	Encryption isn't an area I know too much about unfortuantely, mostly making suggestions as I think of possibilities.
2017-07-16 23:00:03	bugfroggy	pokechu22: That's fine, I appreciate you trying to help. I clearly don't know enough about it either. I have no idea why I'm getting kicked off the server when I try to read off of the socket, though.
2017-07-16 23:00:51	bugfroggy	I think I turned off compression (changed the threshold from 256 to -1), that didn't change a thing.
2017-07-16 23:01:07	pokechu22	You could enable packet debugging on the server too (http://wiki.vg/Debugging); would let you know what packets it's sending (may or may not be helpful)
2017-07-16 23:01:22	bugfroggy	Ill look into that
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2017-07-16 23:13:29	bugfroggy	pokechu22: Maybe you'll know the answer to this, here's one of the lines of output when I enabled debugging: OUT: [LOGIN:3] jp
2017-07-16 23:13:33	bugfroggy	is that STATE:ID?
2017-07-16 23:14:13	pokechu22	Yes.  STATE:ID, with the obfuscated class name afterwards (you could use MCPBot for that, but it's not too important).  ID is in decimal, not hex, though.  3=set compression.
2017-07-16 23:14:39	bugfroggy	Yeah, alright thanks.
2017-07-16 23:20:17	bugfroggy	Well, I'm stumped. https://pastebin.com/NqMYgs4H Compression is disabled here and everything looks fine. As long as I don't try to read anything, I can remain logged in fine. But once I read off of the stream, instantly kicked
2017-07-16 23:20:49	bugfroggy	The data on the stream also isn't anything significant. I'd expect a compression packet but that's not what I'm reading.
2017-07-16 23:21:46	pokechu22	Oh, actually - forcibly closed by the remote host means that _your client_ closed the connection...
2017-07-16 23:21:57	pokechu22	At least, if I recall correctly it does
2017-07-16 23:22:22	bugfroggy	gahhh
2017-07-16 23:22:48	bugfroggy	I suppose that's a good sign
2017-07-16 23:34:52	bugfroggy	haha, I figured out why I was getting disconnected, incredibly stupid mistake
2017-07-16 23:35:48	bugfroggy	I disabled the piece of my script that keeps it in a loop, so it just stopped after the last line of code and I didn't realize that until now.
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2017-07-16 23:47:14	coderbot	ugh, Map Chunk Bulk is so annoying
2017-07-16 23:47:31	coderbot	it's my second least favorite part of the old protocols
2017-07-16 23:48:06	coderbot	my least favorite part was Notch's attempt to be clever by only sending the NBT length field for item stacks if the item uses NBT data
2017-07-16 23:49:03	coderbot	and Map Chunk Bulk is annoying because the metadata is after the compressed data, so you have to buffer potentially several megabytes of data before you can parse it using the metadata
2017-07-17 00:02:11	rom1504	what kind of random number is natives-5214169570279 ?
2017-07-17 00:04:54	rom1504	let's say Math.floor(Math.random()*10000000000000)
2017-07-17 00:06:23	coderbot	no idea
2017-07-17 00:06:33	coderbot	does it have something to do with the process id?
2017-07-17 00:06:50	rom1504	/home/rom1504/.minecraft/versions/1.12/1.12-natives-26273003950252
2017-07-17 00:06:55	rom1504	no clue
2017-07-17 00:07:07	rom1504	no I don't think so
2017-07-17 00:07:11	rom1504	number is too big
2017-07-17 00:07:16	coderbot	probably a random number
2017-07-17 00:07:17	rom1504	I think it's just a random number
2017-07-17 00:07:18	rom1504	yeah
2017-07-17 00:07:23	coderbot	Random.nextLong?
2017-07-17 00:10:03	+Dinnerbone	System.nanoTime()
2017-07-17 00:10:24	coderbot	ah
2017-07-17 00:11:28	+Dinnerbone	(It should probably have been currentTimeMills but it's just an arbitrary number that probably won't clash.)
2017-07-17 00:13:23	coderbot	It seems simpler to just keep the natives around like the jar files in seperate folders (/windows, /mac, or /linux) and not create/delete them every time
2017-07-17 00:14:16	+Dinnerbone	Then we'd need to verify their integrity alongside everything else. it was cheaper to just recreate
2017-07-17 00:14:37	coderbot	hmm, I see
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2017-07-17 01:12:20	rom1504	ok thanks
2017-07-17 02:12:13	MVXA	Hey guys, is there any other way to send rcon commands to a vanilla minecraft server? Wrote a client in python utilizing the asyncio library for the rcon interface and just realized how broken the command processing is and already experienced a few concurrent modification errors. 
2017-07-17 02:18:28	MVXA	I was thinking about a script that would in turn run the server jar and listen on a socket with tls for authenticated and encrypted communication and pipe communication into the server and log output to connected clients but shouldn't there be already a better way?
2017-07-17 02:18:48	pokechu22	RCON's just that broken (vote for https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-72390; also if this is 1.12 I'll add that to the affected versions)
2017-07-17 02:19:08	pokechu22	As for that... probably you could just use SSH or something similar
2017-07-17 02:19:21	MVXA	already upvoted that ticket but thanks for pointing it out
2017-07-17 02:19:50	MVXA	I have a systemd service file that directly starts the minecraft jar 
2017-07-17 02:20:15	MVXA	but maybe I can do something with screen … mhhh 
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2017-07-17 03:57:32	Hafydd	I settled on running the server within screen and sending commands over SSH.
2017-07-17 03:57:46	Hafydd	However, I didn't have any need for concurrent access.
2017-07-17 03:58:50	Hafydd	(And I use `tail -n0 --follow=name logs/latest.log' to get the output.)
2017-07-17 05:04:26	MVXA	Yeah but it's kind of sad though. The feature is there but it can't be used.
2017-07-17 05:04:47	MVXA	Or with caution only.
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2017-07-17 19:14:19	Hafydd	I have now fixed the map colours: https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Map_item_format#Base_colors
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2017-07-17 23:50:38	chibill	So I still fail at sending chunks to the client.... I can't figure it out.
2017-07-18 00:18:20	pokechu22	Having trouble implementing the chunk format?  Or something else?
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2017-07-18 07:09:43	coderbot	hmm, according to wiki.vg JoinGame/LoginRequest became clientbound only in 1.3.1, but Burger thinks it's duplex all the way up to 1.6.2 (the last documented version under burger vitrine)
2017-07-18 07:11:40	timmyRS	who doesn't love inconsistencies?
2017-07-18 07:12:55	timmyRS	it was said here before that burger vitrine is more acurate tho.
2017-07-18 07:13:01	coderbot	yeah
2017-07-18 07:13:07	coderbot	but there's no reason for it to be duplex
2017-07-18 07:13:36	coderbot	because ClientStatus { FinishLogin } fulfills the original purpose of serverbound JoinGame
2017-07-18 07:14:11	pokechu22	I don't remember how burger determined if a packet was one-way or both-ways
2017-07-18 07:14:18	coderbot	Forge apparently used it serverbound with invalid values for Gamemode (0xFF) and Dimension (0x02)
2017-07-18 07:16:56	coderbot	Here's some pre-1.7 code it looks like: https://github.com/mcdevs/Burger/blob/6a72bef2c745c053c4990773ad6730c9ffa89473/burger/toppings/packets.py
2017-07-18 07:17:00	pokechu22	Ooh.  Apparently in 1.6 the packet class had code that registered whether it was usable both for clientside and serverside
2017-07-18 07:17:13	coderbot	hmm, interesting
2017-07-18 07:17:26	coderbot	so it was still valid both ways, the server just ignored it completely?
2017-07-18 07:17:32	pokechu22	Dunno whether the wiki matched _that_, or whether it was useful for the server
2017-07-18 07:17:54	pokechu22	What was the ID of JoinGame and LoginRequest?
2017-07-18 07:18:08	coderbot	0x01 for pre-1.7 versions
2017-07-18 07:18:17	coderbot	they are different names for the same thing
2017-07-18 07:18:34	coderbot	but LoginRequest is the old name
2017-07-18 07:18:59	pokechu22	Yep, it's registered accepting both ways.  (MCP 811 says Packet1Login)
2017-07-18 07:19:17	pokechu22	Uugh, back before things were put into separate packages
2017-07-18 07:19:51	coderbot	interesting
2017-07-18 07:20:26	coderbot	So Forge probably used JoinGame as an indicator that the client is Forge because of the invalid gamemode and dimension
2017-07-18 07:20:48	pokechu22	Yea, there were handlers both client and server side, but the server one was a noop
2017-07-18 07:21:14	pokechu22	Err.. rather, the login one was a noop; the server one rejected it since it didn't override it.  Or something
2017-07-18 07:22:23	coderbot	The NetHandler style just redirects unhandled packets to a default function I think
2017-07-18 07:22:44	coderbot	would that close the connection with an error?
2017-07-18 07:22:45	pokechu22	Now forge uses the \0 in a packet + more info in the server ping, which is nicer.
2017-07-18 07:23:08	coderbot	yea, old forge was weird
2017-07-18 07:23:27	coderbot	did they even use PluginMessage back then?
2017-07-18 07:24:03	pokechu22	The server disconnects with it (in both login and what I guess counts as play); the client doesn't care.
2017-07-18 07:24:11	pokechu22	PluginMessage did exist; it's been around for a while.
2017-07-18 07:24:21	pokechu22	In fact the server list ping used it IIRC (janky)
2017-07-18 07:25:07	coderbot	interesting; but I was asking if Forge used PluginMessage for the mod negotiation in particular pre-1.7
2017-07-18 07:25:27	coderbot	It would be kinda nice to have pre 1.7 forge documentation
2017-07-18 07:25:43	pokechu22	Oh, I don't know; I haven't looked at forge before 1.7.  The forge source (mixed into FML too probably) still exists though :3
2017-07-18 07:26:10	coderbot	hmm
2017-07-18 07:27:15	coderbot	I know that there was a big deal about Forge support in Bungee, maybe something can be learned about the old forge protocol from that (if possible)
2017-07-18 07:27:31	coderbot	s/Bungee/BungeeCord/
2017-07-18 07:28:44	pokechu22	Oh my, there's stuff about the bukkit coremod and weird bukkit+forge stuff... don't want to think about that; I have no clue how it was supposed to work
2017-07-18 07:29:16	coderbot	Old modding apis were like the wild west
2017-07-18 07:29:57	pokechu22	Oh my, https://github.com/MinecraftForge/FML/wiki/FML-and-the-ModAPI
2017-07-18 07:30:50	coderbot	Finally, ModAPI, except maybe the merest hints, is not going to be in MC 1.5: https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/272733076738682881
2017-07-18 07:30:54	coderbot	well that's an understatement
2017-07-18 07:32:18	coderbot	Looking at the bungee source it seems Forge used the FML plugin channel since at least 1.4
2017-07-18 07:32:22	pokechu22	Looks like forge did have something with a plugin message: https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/1.6/common/net/minecraftforge/common/network/ForgePacket.java
2017-07-18 07:32:45	pokechu22	That's the only reference I can find to the plugin channel class
2017-07-18 07:33:44	pokechu22	IIRC forge wasn't compatible with vanilla servers back then
2017-07-18 07:33:47	pokechu22	Or something like that
2017-07-18 07:34:03	coderbot	That's not true actually
2017-07-18 07:34:25	coderbot	I remember being able to connect to vanilla 1.4.7 servers with my Mindcrack FTB client
2017-07-18 07:34:37	pokechu22	Hm
2017-07-18 07:34:45	coderbot	it was buggy as heck (crafting recipes appearing and dissapearing) but it worked
2017-07-18 07:34:50	pokechu22	Or maybe it was something about not syncing block lists or whatnot
2017-07-18 07:36:18	coderbot	Forge servers probably crashed vanilla clients though
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2017-07-18 10:36:00	Hafydd	Does anyone know what the "Purge" action on minecraft.gamepedia.com wiki pages is supposed to do? I can't see it documented anywhere.
2017-07-18 10:37:08	Hafydd	(And when I use it, it doesn't appear to do anything.)
2017-07-18 10:54:21	MiniDigger	clears cache iirc
2017-07-18 10:55:18	MiniDigger	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purge#Purge_request_to_server
2017-07-18 10:55:19	MiniDigger	yep
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2017-07-18 16:52:52	rom1504	is there some rate limiting for downloading assets ? it seems much slower than it could be
2017-07-18 16:55:13	timmyRS	rom1504, I have made a own cheap Minecraft Launcher and I did not notice any rate limiting or unusual slowness.
2017-07-18 16:55:46	rom1504	how many connections do you do concurrently ?
2017-07-18 16:55:52	timmyRS	1
2017-07-18 16:55:57	rom1504	oh
2017-07-18 16:56:17	rom1504	and how much time does it take to download all the assets ? less than 5 minutes ?
2017-07-18 16:56:31	timmyRS	Yes.
2017-07-18 16:56:43	timmyRS	I will measure it for you, wait a second.
2017-07-18 17:01:47	timmyRS	rom1504, It took about 90 seconds to download everything with my assets folder deleted.
2017-07-18 17:02:00	rom1504	ok that's pretty fast
2017-07-18 17:02:12	rom1504	I guess there's something I'm doing wrong then