2017-04-10 02:43:42	+SpaceManiac	The GPL is a license for people opposed to the existence of non-free software
2017-04-10 02:43:59	chibill	It's for people who opposed free/open
2017-04-10 02:44:03	chibill	Stuff.
2017-04-10 02:44:11	+SpaceManiac	It's for people who want *all* software to be free, not just *some* of it
2017-04-10 02:45:04	chibill	Well it's the worst license to ever use.... It takes away right from all sides...
2017-04-10 02:45:08	+SpaceManiac	The GPL says: don't benefit from my work unless you let others benefit from yours
2017-04-10 02:45:23	chibill	It only works in a perfect world...
2017-04-10 02:45:37	pokechu22	Free, by restricting usage...  IMO it's not great for most projects - it fits the ideal well, but restricts other usages...
2017-04-10 02:45:59	+SpaceManiac	It's a give-and-take
2017-04-10 02:46:15	chibill	It's a give and steal type of thing.
2017-04-10 02:46:22	+SpaceManiac	Steal from who?
2017-04-10 02:46:32	chibill	The dev who wants to use your lib...
2017-04-10 02:46:43	chibill	They are forced to be GPL.
2017-04-10 02:46:52	pokechu22	Doesn't the GPL let _you_ use non-GPL libs, but not let your clients?
2017-04-10 02:47:00	chibill	Nope.
2017-04-10 02:47:10	+SpaceManiac	You can't mix GPL and proprietary code in a single software package
2017-04-10 02:47:27	chibill	Has to be Compton
2017-04-10 02:47:32	chibill	Comparable*
2017-04-10 02:47:40	chibill	Stupid auto correct.... :(
2017-04-10 02:48:00	+SpaceManiac	Proprietary library vendors say: pay us money to use our library
2017-04-10 02:48:05	chibill	No.
2017-04-10 02:48:06	+SpaceManiac	GPL says: pay us your source code to use our library
2017-04-10 02:48:27	chibill	Gpl says you can't use our free code unless your free
2017-04-10 02:48:36	+SpaceManiac	Yes, exactly
2017-04-10 02:48:56	+SpaceManiac	The GPL isn't right for everybody but it's not some fundamentally flawed monster license to anybody *except* proprietary software vendors
2017-04-10 02:48:57	chibill	Which is communism at its finest..
2017-04-10 02:49:21	+SpaceManiac	Is communism still a dirty word in 2017?
2017-04-10 02:49:32	chibill	It's against the core values of open source so it is flawed....
2017-04-10 02:49:46	chibill	Well communism only works in A perfect world...
2017-04-10 02:49:47	pokechu22	To be clear: Does GPL require users to be GPL, or does it require them to have the source code available but not necessarily licensed under GPL (eg, MIT)?
2017-04-10 02:49:52	+SpaceManiac	That relies on the inherent assumpton that the "open source" movement is the correct one
2017-04-10 02:50:00	+SpaceManiac	The "free software" movement is a *separate* movement
2017-04-10 02:50:22	+SpaceManiac	It requires GPL or GPL-compatible
2017-04-10 02:50:39	+SpaceManiac	I'd have to go back to research-land to remember about the more permissive licenses
2017-04-10 02:50:40	chibill	So why is GPL a open source license if it's a free license?
2017-04-10 02:50:56	+SpaceManiac	Because lots of people are very confused and think "free software" and "open source" are the same thing
2017-04-10 02:51:18	+SpaceManiac	pokechu22: I think you can combine GPL and MIT components and license the resultant package under GPL
2017-04-10 02:51:26	+SpaceManiac	But I'm not a lawyer
2017-04-10 02:51:55	+SpaceManiac	Some people define "open source" as "any situation where you get to see the source code of the software you're using"
2017-04-10 02:52:18	+SpaceManiac	Those people are wrong, but they exist
2017-04-10 02:55:16	+SpaceManiac	The LGPL *is* better than the GPL, because it lets you build a proprietary software package, as long as you let your users modify the segment of it that's based on the LGPL code. You can still have a proprietary segment.
2017-04-10 02:56:02	+SpaceManiac	This is why it's more common for libraries to use LGPL and end-products to use GPL
2017-04-10 03:00:40	chibill	Most common libs use MIT or (I can't remember the name) because both can be used in GPL code... And that's one force users into a flawed license.
2017-04-10 03:01:08	chibill	Don't*
2017-04-10 03:01:51	chibill	I just hate that I use rights under (L)GPL.....
2017-04-10 03:02:10	+SpaceManiac	Sorry, I meant out of just the LGPL and GPL. Yes, probably the most common (especially for small libs) in the wild is MIT
2017-04-10 03:02:45	chibill	Lose not use...
2017-04-10 03:02:54	chibill	I hate auto correct on Android.
2017-04-10 03:03:26	+SpaceManiac	I think it's fair, to not want to use (L)GPL code for that reason
2017-04-10 03:03:41	+SpaceManiac	but people who license their software like that see it differently: the only right you lose is that to deny others rights
2017-04-10 03:04:28	chibill	The rights you also lose is the freedom to use others open source code.... Which just sucks
2017-04-10 03:06:07	+SpaceManiac	You only lose the right to use other open-source code which has an even more restrictive license than GPL
2017-04-10 03:06:37	chibill	No.
2017-04-10 03:07:06	+SpaceManiac	I looked it up; the MIT license is GPL-compatible
2017-04-10 03:07:16	chibill	Yeah.
2017-04-10 03:07:18	chibill	I know.
2017-04-10 03:07:33	chibill	GPL is the most restrictive license I know.
2017-04-10 03:07:36	chibill	Of
2017-04-10 03:07:46	chibill	For both user and dev
2017-04-10 03:07:57	+SpaceManiac	The most restrictive license except for all the ones where you don't even get the source at all
2017-04-10 03:08:11	+SpaceManiac	Oh, or ones where you get the source but you're under NDA.
2017-04-10 03:09:00	+SpaceManiac	Or ones where you get the source but not the patent grants to do anything with it...
2017-04-10 03:09:02	chibill	I don't see how none open source license are relevant to this?
2017-04-10 03:09:31	chibill	We are talking open source licenses here.
2017-04-10 03:10:06	+SpaceManiac	The GPL is not right for every situation, I just disagree with the assertion that it's fundamentally flawed. To its proponents, these supposed flaws are actually its strengths
2017-04-10 03:11:33	chibill	Also most projects get licenses as GPL just because people don't read the licenses...
2017-04-10 03:13:12	+SpaceManiac	the problem of people not reading the license and not following its terms exists with any license
2017-04-10 03:13:42	+SpaceManiac	even MIT license is often not followed correctly, w.r.t including the credit statement in the end-product
2017-04-10 03:13:57	chibill	Still unless to can say who GPL is not flawed
2017-04-10 03:14:10	chibill	As I have giving facts as to how it is.
2017-04-10 03:14:18	chibill	How*
2017-04-10 03:14:28	chibill	Like really..
2017-04-10 03:14:41	+SpaceManiac	It's simple: those people have different values than you
2017-04-10 03:15:13	+SpaceManiac	They believe in different ideals
2017-04-10 03:15:25	+SpaceManiac	To them, the GPL achieves their goals; to you, it doesn't; your goals are different
2017-04-10 03:16:00	chibill	My goals are to have software everyone can use that I still own...
2017-04-10 03:16:54	chibill	GPL does not agree with that statement at all. Not even the I own part.
2017-04-10 03:17:07	+SpaceManiac	Sure.
2017-04-10 03:17:34	+SpaceManiac	GPL is for people who want their software to be free forever, even when other people build on top of it
2017-04-10 03:17:45	chibill	It stop mid
2017-04-10 03:17:51	chibill	It still is.
2017-04-10 03:18:01	chibill	Even under non-GPL stuff
2017-04-10 03:18:29	+SpaceManiac	If I release an amazing software package under MIT, tomorrow Microsoft could release a 2x better version, entirely closed-source, and my version would die, and the software would be entirely closed-source now.
2017-04-10 03:18:49	chibill	Not legally.
2017-04-10 03:19:17	+SpaceManiac	Yeah, legally. The MIT license permits it.
2017-04-10 03:19:33	chibill	MIT says you still own your code...
2017-04-10 03:19:57	chibill	But you are free to redistribute it.
2017-04-10 03:19:58	+SpaceManiac	I own the code, but I just granted all comers (including MS) the rights to do anything with it (include sublicense without restriction)
2017-04-10 03:20:09	chibill	Yeah so?
2017-04-10 03:20:34	+SpaceManiac	I still own my code, but as a continuing project, it can be subsumed by a future non-open software
2017-04-10 03:20:59	+SpaceManiac	MS benefits from me, but I don't benefit from them
2017-04-10 03:21:24	chibill	No legally.
2017-04-10 03:21:48	+SpaceManiac	The MIT license grants them the right to do that.
2017-04-10 03:24:03	+SpaceManiac	Look, I'm not a lawyer. Maybe I misunderstand something about the MIT license. But even less restrictive licenses than MIT (public domain, unlicense, WTFPL) have this problem
2017-04-10 03:24:33	+SpaceManiac	people who choose these licenses acknowledge these risks as acceptable
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2017-04-10 05:51:17	Z750	chibill: if you license your code MIT, anyone could very much throw it into a closed source platform and sell it without ever talking to you
2017-04-10 05:51:21	Z750	thats the entire point of the MIT license
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2017-04-10 07:04:37	chibill	So? Thats perfectly fine.
2017-04-10 07:04:53	chibill	That's is how open-source works...
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2017-04-10 07:32:42	MiniDigger	no
2017-04-10 07:32:57	MiniDigger	there is no single this is open source works 
2017-04-10 07:33:17	MiniDigger	there are many philosophies and that's why we have many licenses 
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2017-04-10 07:33:51	MiniDigger	both GPl and MIT are open source licenses but are extremely different 
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2017-04-10 08:40:18	Z750	I dont really care, Im a firm believer the author of software has a right to license it however they wish
2017-04-10 08:40:24	Z750	I was only responding to your early confusion
2017-04-10 08:40:35	Z750	s/y/ier
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2017-04-10 19:24:53	barneygale	FWIW I'm more interested in GPL nowadays than MIT/BSD
2017-04-10 19:25:20	barneygale	MIT/BSD is a reasonable choice if your objective is simply to get as many users of your software as possible. Otherwise Stallman has a point.
2017-04-10 19:30:36	barneygale	(my own viewpoint; there's no objectively correct answer)
2017-04-10 19:45:52	redstonehelper	having read only the last line, your opinion is objectively wrong
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2017-04-10 20:12:24	Tachyon_	is it teoretically possible to make a bridge/proxy between pc server edition and pe client ? eg phone client connects to bridge, bridge connects to actual server, bridge translates all the packets, everything is completely transparent to both server and client ?
2017-04-10 20:14:24	pokechu22	Theoretically, yes... but RakNet...
2017-04-10 20:15:05	Tachyon_	I am at that phrase in the wiki and I don't what it means
2017-04-10 20:15:48	kashike	https://github.com/DragonetMC/DragonProxy/commit/0e440f4449cbe62d6be5cc0e0d65c900ced058cc
2017-04-10 20:18:07	Tachyon_	that sounds really.. desolating
2017-04-10 20:20:49	Tachyon_	what are you saying is that is somehow hard to use raknet ?
2017-04-10 20:38:05	pokechu22	It's hard to implement it yourself, and over the network it's scary
2017-04-10 21:10:27	barneygale	in light arrays, is the first item stored in the low bits or high bits of the byte? i'm guessing low?
2017-04-10 21:10:49	barneygale	s/the byte/the first byte/
2017-04-10 21:18:25	pokechu22	barneygale: "In half-byte arrays, two values are packed into each byte. Even-indexed items are packed into the low bits, odd-indexed into the high bits.".  The first item is the low bits, yea.  I suppose that could be a bit more explicit.
2017-04-10 21:19:24	barneygale	pokechu22, sorry - I was ctrl-f'ing "light" and missed the sentence above.
2017-04-10 21:19:55	pokechu22	I think that sentence is a remenent from 1.6 or whenever when there were more half-byte arrays (for metadata and such)
2017-04-10 21:35:58	barneygale	Does the minecraft server use the packed array of longs for storing chunks in-memory? If so, I guess it re-packs the array when a change means bits-per-block needs to increase?
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2017-04-10 21:43:32	pokechu22	Yes, for both the client and server.
2017-04-10 21:43:53	barneygale	Fun. Thanks for being a fount of chunk-related wisdom lately pokechu22 :D
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2017-04-11 01:21:10	chibill	barneygale is quarry functional? the example servers don't seem to work at all.
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2017-04-11 16:11:57	chibill	I can't wait for 17w15a :D I got some new stuff to test.
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2017-04-11 19:35:53	yawkat	Aikar: http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk9-dev/2017-April/005749.html you did some g1 tuning, right? i was under the impression that <50ms pauses are attainable, even with >4gb heaps
2017-04-11 19:36:10	yawkat	is that right? maybe respond to that thread if you have anything to add
2017-04-11 19:36:22	 *	yawkat hasnt adminstrated an mc server in a long while
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2017-04-12 00:46:37	chibill	I can't wait for tomorrow. 
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2017-04-12 01:13:30	rom1504	why
2017-04-12 01:18:03	chibill	I have some new automatic mapping stuff.
2017-04-12 01:18:07	chibill	Using jawa.
2017-04-12 01:20:21	rom1504	what are you using the resulting code for ?
2017-04-12 01:23:51	chibill	Well its .srg mappings :P So to deobfuscate the snapshot
2017-04-12 01:32:10	rom1504	yeah but what for
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2017-04-12 02:46:02	chibill	Because why not?
2017-04-12 02:46:40	chibill	Plus I can find hidden features quickly. And also deobfuscate the releases before MCP eventually.
2017-04-12 03:24:56	Aikar	yawkat: quick test on dev, 2gb heap, with my GC tuning, 3k~ entities in clustered area, bringing tps to like 17, triggering young gen collections every 15s or so, is about 25ms each
2017-04-12 03:25:36	Aikar	https://gist.github.com/aikar/90be7f14ae720fdb09a0c402255bf070
2017-04-12 03:28:44	Aikar	the real secret to my tuning is focusing on eden, identifying how much eden your app really needs, and giving longer intervals to young collections, which avoids promoting short lived memory to old gen incorrectly just because of GC pressure
2017-04-12 03:29:30	Aikar	as you can see in that gc.log, even though i cycled through my avail memory like 20 times, i still didnt old gen collect (ignore the one at top, thats just during initial jvm boot, things warming up)
2017-04-12 03:29:42	Aikar	and even those were like 100ms to 300ms
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2017-04-12 04:05:37	Aikar	yawkat: ive attempted to respond, never used mailinglist before heh, so i hope i did it right
2017-04-12 04:11:25	Aikar	its pending approval since im not a member of the list
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2017-04-12 04:47:16	Aikar	yawkat: checked my logs, the other benefit of g1 is that its logic means it doesnt use memory it doesnt need. even though i have 10gb assigned, its smart, and still hit 30-40ms pauses in prod
2017-04-12 04:47:27	Aikar	https://gist.github.com/aikar/5fd99dd4b8c4b573a39f5c99ce5dda00
2017-04-12 04:47:39	+ammar2	good gc
2017-04-12 04:47:43	+ammar2	that's some good gc right there
2017-04-12 04:47:44	+ammar2	right there
2017-04-12 04:47:47	+ammar2	if I do say so myself
2017-04-12 04:47:48	+ammar2	I do
2017-04-12 04:48:07	chibill	hi
2017-04-12 04:48:17	+ammar2	hi
2017-04-12 04:50:59	chibill	sup?
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2017-04-12 05:33:23	yawkat	Aikar: try subscribing to jdk9-dev on http://mail.openjdk.java.net/mailman/listinfo
2017-04-12 05:33:36	Aikar	i dont want to be subbed lol
2017-04-12 05:33:59	Aikar	nothing there will be of interest to me 
2017-04-12 05:34:06	yawkat	Hm, fair... Maybe sub and unsub in a day or so? I'd appreciate it
2017-04-12 05:34:24	Aikar	a moderator can just manually approve my reply
2017-04-12 05:34:35	yawkat	"pending approval" means eaten by mailman
2017-04-12 05:34:43	Aikar	and why are 'you' going to appreciate it lol
2017-04-12 05:35:01	yawkat	Because I'm interested in the discussion 
2017-04-12 05:35:27	Aikar	if it doesnt get approved, heres my response if you want to post it: https://gist.github.com/aikar/5f68dc6dc80db0b0352450aab580d05c
2017-04-12 05:35:35	yawkat	Okay, thank you
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2017-04-12 11:48:12	minecrell	Dinnerbone: Thanks a lot for updating log4j :)
2017-04-12 11:50:35	+Dinnerbone	<3
2017-04-12 11:50:52	+Dinnerbone	I also fixed the launcher not showing lines immediately, and hiding any throwables
2017-04-12 11:52:22	minecrell	The server JAR is broken for me though. The new log4j version has an annotation processor that writes custom plugins into META-INF/org/apache/logging/etc/Log4jPlugins.dat (so it doesn't need to scan at runtime). You probably shade it from the log4j-core JAR and from authlib. If you want to use a fat JAR you'll need to exclude the one from authlib
2017-04-12 11:54:54	+Dinnerbone	The server doesn't need the layout though?
2017-04-12 11:55:07	+Dinnerbone	Even the client isn't built with it - it's just added by the launcher in classpath
2017-04-12 11:55:11	minecrell	Yeah, not related to the XML layout. It's related to the QueueLogAppender in authlib
2017-04-12 11:55:19	+Dinnerbone	Aha
2017-04-12 11:55:35	minecrell	The client isn't affected because you use separate JAR files
2017-04-12 11:56:48	minecrell	the new server JAR actually has Log4jPlugins.dat included twice, but Java doesn't handle duplicate files well
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2017-04-12 12:32:43	minecrell	Dinnerbone: https://bugs.mojang.com/projects/MC/issues/MC-115797 is the related bug report
2017-04-12 12:33:07	minecrell	If you're using the maven shade plugin or Gradle shadow plugin there is also a transformer to merge them
2017-04-12 12:33:16	minecrell	but excluding authlib's would also work
2017-04-12 12:54:03	_MylesC	I've pushed a PR to Jawa with working constants for Java 8 (though i'm unsure on it's completeness) for anyone wanting to use Burger on the latest snapshot.
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2017-04-12 13:21:43	Tachyon_	is there any out of the box, standalone, minecraft terrain generator ?
2017-04-12 13:24:56	MiniDigger	something like worldpainter? 
2017-04-12 13:25:06	MiniDigger	what features are you looking for?
2017-04-12 13:26:42	Tachyon_	give it a chunk(somehow) and it's chunk coordinates and generate some terrain(it doesn't have to be the best)
2017-04-12 13:28:56	Tachyon_	and a seed
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2017-04-12 16:23:41	chibill	SO I love digging in JVM bytecode it seems...
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2017-04-12 16:37:40	chibill	Rip... :(
2017-04-12 16:38:21	chibill	Something inside of mr.class messes up Jawa... :( Its an interesting class but. Theres stuff about the advancements in it.
2017-04-12 16:39:19	chibill	Apparently mr.class has an invalid byte tag in its constant pool...
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2017-04-12 17:06:39	pokechu22_	chibill: It's Java 8 - myles has a fix: https://github.com/MylesIsCool/Jawa/ (https://github.com/TkTech/Jawa/pull/10)
2017-04-12 17:09:25	pokechu22_	And, burger: http://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/diff_17w14a_17w15a.html (note, this is missing sounds for reasons, but PAaaS has those)
2017-04-12 17:15:38	chibill	Okay. :D I am going to be replacing my other tool https://github.com/MCCarbon/DecompileTools (I use a slightly edited version) with pure Jawa.
2017-04-12 17:18:56	chibill	Also going to be adjusting my Jar FingerPrinter to also map enum constnats to there real name.
2017-04-12 17:29:09	pokechu22_	chibill: Any clue what "pf" is in 17w15a?  Sound effect (not named sound effect) changed; trying to figure out what happened.
2017-04-12 17:33:09	pokechu22_	NVM, looks like it's used for the parrot immatates effect
2017-04-12 17:34:07	kashike	yes
2017-04-12 17:40:24	chibill	pf class? 
2017-04-12 17:41:25	pokechu22_	Yea
2017-04-12 17:42:21	chibill	give me a sec building a sec of mappings.
2017-04-12 17:47:53	chibill	welp I have no idea.. Need to take a look at the source.
2017-04-12 17:48:47	pokechu22_	It's doing something with parrots and subtitles, but there's too many ☃ for me to understand completely (might make more sense in-game).  Packet structure is interesting, for sure.
2017-04-12 17:49:22	chibill	It seems to extend the pg which is the Sound class. 
2017-04-12 17:49:38	chibill	SO it is definitely a sound
2017-04-12 17:52:27	chibill	https://pastebin.com/LFZK3AVx is pf
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2017-04-12 17:54:34	Tachyon_	again, why aren't we getting a nice & documented API from mojang ?
2017-04-12 17:54:57	Tachyon_	would make things too easy, wouldn't they ?
2017-04-12 17:55:34	pokechu22_	I get that much, what I'm not sure about is what parameters are given into it.  The only references are in 'bin' (which seems to be the subtitle _renderer_), 'ju' (the sound effect packet), and 'zc' (which is parrot).
2017-04-12 17:56:02	chibill	and pg is net.minecraft.util.SoundEvent
2017-04-12 17:58:22	chibill	Once I get a proper mapping file for 15w17a I will try and figure it out. (I have to rewrite my enum mapper)
2017-04-12 18:05:33	chibill	Decompiling
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2017-04-12 18:06:53	kashike	pokechu22_: run it through something that strips, or renames, LVT - like MCInjector
2017-04-12 18:06:56	kashike	java -jar mcinjector-3.4-SNAPSHOT-fatjar.jar --jarIn minecraft_server.17w15a.jar --jarOut in/17w15a_prep.jar --lvt LVT --mapIn null --log true && java -jar fernflower-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar -din=1 -dgs=1 -asc=1 -iec=1 -rsy=1 -rbr=1 -lit=0 -__unit_test_mode__=0 -mpm=0 in/17w15a_prep.jar out/
2017-04-12 18:06:58	kashike	etc
2017-04-12 18:09:52	chibill	-dgs=1 -hdc=0 -rbr=0 -asc=1 -udv=0  on fernflower
2017-04-12 18:10:10	chibill	is what forge and spigot use
2017-04-12 18:11:10	chibill	And my byte code based mapper sucks when it gets a stupid funcky minecart...
2017-04-12 18:13:51	pokechu22_	When did we start getting an LVT?  I think it must have been a snapshot a while ago - it's an interesting change (assuming that it's an accurate LVT other than the names being ☃, it means that local variables could be assigned names in the future)
2017-04-12 18:14:21	minecrell	1.8.3
2017-04-12 18:15:02	pokechu22_	Huh
2017-04-12 18:16:04	minecrell	Together with annotations and generics, plus other things I might not remember
2017-04-12 18:16:40	kashike	annotations came later
2017-04-12 18:16:52	chibill	1.8 had the cursed snowmen.
2017-04-12 18:16:59	minecrell	kashike: I'm pretty sure it was the same update :o
2017-04-12 18:17:04	chibill	yep
2017-04-12 18:18:13	pokechu22_	I vaugly remember annotions being one of the 1.9 builds, not completely sure though
2017-04-12 18:18:13	minecrell	Right it was the inner class table too
2017-04-12 18:18:28	minecrell	Well, doesn't really matter when it was :P
2017-04-12 18:19:17	kashike	2016-04-11 22:57:42 kashike seems that latest MC snapshots retain @Deprecated, @Nullable annotations \o/
2017-04-12 18:19:23	kashike	1.9 was released feb 2016
2017-04-12 18:19:29	minecrell	fine
2017-04-12 18:19:31	minecrell	you win :P
2017-04-12 18:19:32	kashike	annotations did not come with 1.8.
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2017-04-12 18:22:36	kashike	chibill: that isn't what forge uses for fernflower, my fernflower args are from forge
2017-04-12 18:22:39	kashike	https://github.com/MinecraftForge/ForgeGradle/blob/FG_2.2/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/gradle/tasks/fernflower/ApplyFernFlowerTask.java#L70-L79
2017-04-12 18:37:02	chibill	Kash mine are from before gradle and also what mcp uses too.
2017-04-12 18:37:32	chibill	I am an old school deobfuscstor. Started doing this back in 1.r
2017-04-12 18:37:36	chibill	1.4*
2017-04-12 18:39:06	pokechu22_	Looking at what's going on in 'bin': I can't quite tell how that'd work.  It's translating the resource identifier into a String, but that String is the old-style entity ID (what used to be EntityHorse, for instance), and it doesn't use any further processing.  So in english, that'll give you "Parrot", but it needs to be run through translation for "entity.Parrot.name" (using that value) to get the right thing...
2017-04-12 18:39:23	pokechu22_	Probably a bug, but I'd need to test in-game.
2017-04-12 18:43:29	rom1504	pokechu22_: http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Unlock_Recipes
2017-04-12 18:43:35	rom1504	what is the type of identifier
2017-04-12 18:44:01	pokechu22_	Oops, was going to add that
2017-04-12 18:44:51	pokechu22_	It's a namespaced ID (minecraft:something), implemented as a string.  Maybe it shouldnt' be its own type, but there's some specialty to the parsing that makes it of note
2017-04-12 18:45:49	rom1504	ok
2017-04-12 18:46:10	pokechu22_	Because, you can have it with or without the namespace, and it's case-insensitive (as far as I can tell).  It's used in the game in other places, but only recently it was added strictly as a protocol data type instead of being constructed from a string
2017-04-12 18:47:13	pokechu22_	Also, burger doesn't identify it right - it assumes it's a position
2017-04-12 18:47:42	rom1504	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/pull/172/commits/5e6154479575ded7855df1db338a27699e213c71
2017-04-12 18:51:22	kashike	pokechu22_: not a new data type, standard string - it just does return new ResourceLocation(this.readString(Short.MAX_VALUE)); / this.writeString(resourceLocation.toString());
2017-04-12 18:51:23	kashike	helper method
2017-04-12 18:52:04	rom1504	wiki.vg datatypes can be different than the java ones
2017-04-12 18:52:11	rom1504	if it's useful
2017-04-12 18:52:52	pokechu22_	^ that's why I marked it as its own type; but I'm not 100% sure it's a good idea to do it that way
2017-04-12 19:05:13	pokechu22_	It's much like Chat - in essense text components are just strings, but there's plenty of logic that goes with them.
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2017-04-12 20:21:42	rom1504	pokechu22: http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Crafting_Book_Data
2017-04-12 20:21:46	rom1504	is it 35 or 17 ?
2017-04-12 20:22:08	rom1504	going with 17
2017-04-12 20:26:38	rom1504	an int to store a value between 1 and 2 is great
2017-04-12 20:26:41	rom1504	very nice idea
2017-04-12 20:29:04	Tachyon_	seems legit
2017-04-12 20:31:07	chibill	well its better then a bool. They can easily add more types this way in that.
2017-04-12 20:31:44	Tachyon_	it's also better than a nibble !
2017-04-12 20:32:11	chibill	Or maybe that there is wrong? 
2017-04-12 20:33:39	chibill	Actually the do worse in some cases using a varint...... 
2017-04-12 20:33:44	chibill	for 1,2 or 3
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2017-04-12 20:41:02	Aikar	yawkat: my reply got approved. redhat guy is saying we should try shenandoah GC engine lol
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2017-04-12 20:41:11	yawkat	toldya!
2017-04-12 20:41:20	pokechu22_	17, looks like a copy-paste error.  Also it's server-bound.
2017-04-12 20:41:29	Aikar	you told me redhat would reply with that? cause i dont remember that :P
2017-04-12 20:41:44	yawkat	told you shenandoah was interesting ;)
2017-04-12 20:42:16	Aikar	i dont have time to mess with it though
2017-04-12 20:42:41	pokechu22_	And it looks like they're using int constants... why...‽ There's already a utility method for enums and they use enums for most other packets.
2017-04-12 20:43:43	pokechu22_	(and the enums are automatically encoded as a VarInt)
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2017-04-12 20:44:22	pokechu22_	rom1504: ^
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2017-04-12 21:06:51	chibill	Partially mapped 17w15a https://github.com/chibill/Minecraft-Mappings/tree/17w15a 
2017-04-12 21:08:05	chibill	just add specialsoruce and you have some stuff to look at. Granted there is no field or method naming yet. But I just started using the new process I made this year
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2017-04-12 21:19:04	chibill	hi
2017-04-12 21:19:20	chibill	barneygale, right your the person that made quarry? 
2017-04-12 21:19:30	chibill	I can't seem to get the example server working at all.
2017-04-12 21:20:07	chibill	https://github.com/barneygale/quarry/blob/master/examples/server_chat_room.py just makes the client hang at loggin in...
2017-04-12 21:20:23	chibill	on mc version 1.11 and 1.11.2
2017-04-12 21:20:59	barneygale	Works for me. Have you tried setting `log_level = "DEBUG"` on the factory?
2017-04-12 21:21:25	barneygale	I'm surprised you're still trying to use quarry after so thoroughly rubbishing it a couple of days ago
2017-04-12 21:22:09	chibill	Well I am not going to give up on making a server if the only alternative is to not use a lib.
2017-04-12 21:22:58	barneygale	Yeah. Well you said yourself that what quarry does is trivial and doesn't even qualify as a protocol implementation
2017-04-12 21:23:58	chibill	this is true.... But it atleast has a framework for giving me packets.
2017-04-12 21:24:23	barneygale	I'm struggling to find any motivation to help you with it given how insulting you were before. Technical opinions are fine, but not when they're expressed as if they're objective truth.
2017-04-12 21:27:31	chibill	Sorry
2017-04-12 21:28:29	chibill	I get this https://pastebin.com/pZ72yFKg  Something looks like it errored but it does not say what.
2017-04-12 21:30:12	chibill	Also just going to say it was wrong for me to express how I think a protocol implementation should implement the protocol. (Or at least decode it)
2017-04-12 21:36:25	chibill	Any ideas?
2017-04-12 21:38:43	barneygale	Not something I've seen before, and I haven't figured out why twisted will sometimes fail to print error details
2017-04-12 21:40:14	chibill	It could also just be my install twisted and other stuff was being problematic to install. (Stupid python 64bit
2017-04-12 21:40:15	chibill	)
2017-04-12 21:41:53	chibill	I have tried in both online and offline mode 
2017-04-12 21:46:09	barneygale	Yeah, very odd. If you're running a server in offline mode it shouldn't be doing any HTTP, which is where quarry uses Deferreds most of all.
2017-04-12 21:46:31	chibill	Well I tried the client in both. 
2017-04-12 21:46:51	Aikar	yawkat: lol i now got the CEO of jclarity offering me a free copy of their tool
2017-04-12 21:47:35	chibill	By adding my own print statement I was able to find that it errors during the call to write the join_game packet to the buffer
2017-04-12 21:50:07	barneygale	You're connecting with a mojang client, or with quarry?
2017-04-12 21:50:14	kashike	Aikar: you've made it to #minecraftforge as well, someone just linked http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk9-dev/2017-April/005756.html
2017-04-12 21:50:14	chibill	Found it. send_packet() takes at most 3 arguments (5 given) mojang
2017-04-12 21:50:24	chibill	send_packet() takes at most 3 arguments (5 given) is the error.
2017-04-12 21:50:25	Aikar	lol
2017-04-12 21:50:50	barneygale	Hang on. Have you copy-pasted the example from the online docs, but installed quarry with `pip`?
2017-04-12 21:51:05	barneygale	The online docs or github.
2017-04-12 21:52:02	barneygale	There's a backwards-compatible (but not forwards-compatible) change to `send_packet` in master, but not in the pip version
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2017-04-12 21:52:40	barneygale	Have a look at the repo using the 1.6.3 tag: https://github.com/barneygale/quarry/tree/v0.6.3
2017-04-12 21:52:48	barneygale	err, 0.6.3*
2017-04-12 21:53:45	chibill	Okay so my problem is the pip version does not match the github version? (I used the online docs)
2017-04-12 21:53:56	barneygale	Easiest way to fix it would be to `pip install git+git://github.com/barneygale/quarry.git`
2017-04-12 21:53:57	barneygale	Correct
2017-04-12 21:54:14	chibill	okay. 
2017-04-12 21:54:53	barneygale	It's interesting that twisted doesn't log a useful error message though. I'll look into that...
2017-04-12 21:56:04	chibill	Also the github version still have the same version number as the pip version. (Just saying.) Assuming this is because the updated is not ready yet for pip?
2017-04-12 21:56:35	chibill	It works. :D
2017-04-12 21:57:13	chibill	Maybe I should start from scratch anyways. Using a lib now that I think about it takes half the fun away.
2017-04-12 21:58:10	barneygale	That's fair. I like to think the quarry code is reasonably readable and might be useful as a reference
2017-04-12 21:59:12	chibill	Yeah. Plus I am sort of half waiting for protodef to get there compiler thing working.
2017-04-12 21:59:39	barneygale	protodef?
2017-04-12 22:00:00	chibill	https://github.com/ProtoDef-io
2017-04-12 22:00:17	chibill	And off shoot of https://github.com/PrismarineJS
2017-04-12 22:00:43	chibill	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/blob/master/data/pc/1.11/protocol.json is a protodef json file
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2017-04-12 22:06:31	chibill	Only problem with making my own server.. Me and threading do not get along...
2017-04-12 22:07:11	barneygale	If you're using python you should avoid threading anyway
2017-04-12 22:07:37	chibill	true.
2017-04-12 22:08:35	chibill	But I still need to be able to handle more then one connection at a time. Unless I just keep the clients in a huge list and deal with them as I need to.
2017-04-12 22:10:20	barneygale	That's pretty much exactly what you should do if you're using python ;)
2017-04-12 22:10:25	barneygale	use twisted or asyncio
2017-04-12 22:10:42	barneygale	or some more exotic python implementation
2017-04-12 22:11:09	barneygale	https://wiki.python.org/moin/GlobalInterpreterLock
2017-04-12 22:14:27	chibill	I know about the GIL. 
2017-04-12 22:15:12	chibill	Also I never really touched twisted. And I wish asyncio was for python 2
2017-04-12 22:22:49	chibill	Really I sort of have to use py3 and asyncio because I won't beable to install twisted where I want to use my server.
2017-04-12 22:24:10	chibill	But I think twisted is what I am going to use when ever I made a server on desktop.
2017-04-12 22:30:36	barneygale	In its layout it's quite Java-y, which isn't to everyone's tastes (I initially hated it), but if you're building something big you need to start being reasonable disciplined about these things anyway
2017-04-12 22:47:49	chibill	asyncio just does not seem like something in python... It even feels odd to call it java like. (I do most of my code in python or Java)
2017-04-12 22:50:06	chibill	Interesting Asyncio is actually much like twisted... Just parts of it are weird.
2017-04-12 22:53:15	chibill	the annoying thing when not using a lib you have to deal with the data raw to get it into your representation of a packet.
2017-04-12 22:59:42	barneygale	mate if you're building a server that's a very minor worry
2017-04-12 23:12:26	chibill	true.
2017-04-12 23:16:01	barneygale	Does minecraft's run time chunk data logic keep a reference count of block IDs in a chunk, so that it doesn't need to scan all the data to recompute the palette? Or does it just regenerate the palette from scratch (by scanning through the entire chunk) when asked?
2017-04-12 23:16:35	chibill	no idea.
2017-04-12 23:16:49	barneygale	I was asking the channel rather than you specifically
2017-04-12 23:16:55	chibill	A chunk is basiclly the raw data that is sent over the network when in memory.
2017-04-12 23:17:01	barneygale	gee thanks
2017-04-12 23:17:39	chibill	But its the data in a instance of ExtendedBlockStorage that does all the fancy stuff like actually setting blocks. (At least in a mojang client)
2017-04-12 23:17:55	barneygale	sure
2017-04-12 23:19:11	chibill	Okay. Well Mojang does not use that nice of a way to store it in memory... :(
2017-04-12 23:19:51	chibill	it looks it up in the pallete per block that you get.
2017-04-12 23:19:57	chibill	In the BitArray
2017-04-12 23:20:27	chibill	IBlockState iblockstate = this.palette.getBlockState(this.storage.getAt(y << 8 | z << 4 | x));
2017-04-12 23:20:29	chibill	ew
2017-04-12 23:20:54	barneygale	ok
2017-04-12 23:21:43	barneygale	i'm talking specifically about when you've added/removed unique blocks to/from the chunk, which affects the size of your palette, which affects bits-per-block.
2017-04-12 23:22:32	barneygale	When you remove a block that's unique in the chunk, do you decrement a reference count?
2017-04-12 23:23:08	barneygale	Otherwise you don't know when your palette needs to shrink
2017-04-12 23:24:10	chibill	https://pastebin.com/Rk2NLxRH looks like it goes thru the who palette to change the bit size.  And it uses this to recalulate the refs https://pastebin.com/j9DXswgm
2017-04-12 23:24:18	chibill	whole not who
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2017-04-13 13:08:39	rom1504	I'm getting "ERROR StatusLogger Unrecognized format specifier [d]" while trying to run the 17w15a server
2017-04-13 13:08:44	rom1504	is that "normal" ?*
2017-04-13 13:08:48	rom1504	(known)
2017-04-13 13:22:53	kashike	rom1504: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-60282?jql=project%20%3D%20MC%20AND%20text%20~%20StatusLogger
2017-04-13 13:22:56	kashike	yes
2017-04-13 13:25:28	Tachyon_	normal as in I'm not the only person who gets that
2017-04-13 13:42:08	rom1504	ok
2017-04-13 13:42:12	rom1504	it works anyway
2017-04-13 13:42:38	rom1504	how do I trigger prepare crafting grid and crafting book data packets
2017-04-13 13:43:37	rom1504	ok in the crafting table
2017-04-13 13:43:46	rom1504	all working
2017-04-13 13:44:44	Not-d65d	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 10 commits to master [+4/-0/±15] https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/compare/bc2a00454ad6...bee6b74ed8f4
2017-04-13 13:44:46	Not-d65d	[minecraft-data] rom1504 bee6b74 - Merge pull request #172 from PrismarineJS/17w15a 17w15a
2017-04-13 13:47:08	Tachyon_	thanks for keeping that repo up-to-date. I kinda depend on it and it's important for me
2017-04-13 14:00:32	Not-d65d	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/compare/bee6b74ed8f4...1f7547675956
2017-04-13 14:00:34	Not-d65d	[minecraft-data] rom1504 1f75476 - Release 2.14.0
2017-04-13 14:00:41	Not-d65d	[minecraft-data] rom1504 tagged 1f75476 as 2.14.0 https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/commit/1f7547675956682681609e708b67f527a2f00e27
2017-04-13 14:34:44	rom1504	Tachyon_: how do you use it yet ? I don't remember
2017-04-13 15:00:40	Tachyon_	rom1504: generating items, blocks, and soon packets from it
2017-04-13 15:05:05	rom1504	okay
2017-04-13 15:11:02	rom1504	so java8 is now required
2017-04-13 15:11:14	rom1504	I hope they fix their logging in the next snapshot though
2017-04-13 15:23:51	chibill	I have my mappings getting better again. Got to rewrite my EnumMapper in python as the java version bit the bucket.
2017-04-13 15:26:30	chibill	Also for the crafting grid packets I would assume when you open the crafting grid. (Or maybe on login?)
2017-04-13 15:35:21	rom1504	yes
2017-04-13 15:35:26	rom1504	when you open the crafting grid
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2017-04-13 16:20:12	kashike	rom1504: they just upgraded log4j2 from 2.0-beta9 to 2.8.1
2017-04-13 16:20:16	kashike	bound to be an issue or two
2017-04-13 16:20:18	kashike	:P
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2017-04-14 04:07:39	LucaDev	Hey! I'm currently writing a little minecraft chat client from scratch as a nice side project to keep me busy. I got the complete handshake and login working(protocol 316) but was wondering what packets would be essential to implement. I think I'd have to handle health updates, keep alive and position updates or am I missing something?
2017-04-14 04:10:17	pokechu22	Depends on how you're defining "handle"
2017-04-14 04:10:55	pokechu22	You need to read all packets, but that can just be "read the length and skip it".  You can get a bunch of different packets depending on the case, and should just ignore the ones you don't know
2017-04-14 04:11:13	pokechu22	Oh, and obviously, if you're implementing a chat client, you need to handle the chat packet :3
2017-04-14 04:12:41	LucaDev	Yeah I know, I will just be skipping the other packets but was wondering which packets are essential to actually handle in code and not just skip
2017-04-14 04:16:11	pokechu22	You probably want to handle Disconnect (0x1A), though it isn't completely required (it'll make things clearer).  But you can actually get away with not handling most packets.
2017-04-14 04:17:17	LucaDev	Yea just implemented disconnect, still have to implement packet skipping though. But thanks!
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2017-04-14 09:44:45	Tachyon_	don't forget the keep alive
2017-04-14 09:45:13	Tachyon_	and also the plugin messages
2017-04-14 09:45:37	Tachyon_	you may want tab-complete
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2017-04-14 17:22:49	chibill	Is there any like information on where to go after you get players able to connect to your server? Like do I start send chunks next or what?  http://wiki.vg/How_to_Write_a_Server does not go past logging in.
2017-04-14 17:23:41	Tachyon_	see protocol faq 
2017-04-14 17:26:26	chibill	should we not link from http://wiki.vg/How_to_Write_a_Server to the FAQ considering its part of it? Or move that to How to Write a Server? 
2017-04-14 18:41:20	chibill	Question when I send the Join Game packet will the EID always be 0?  (I can't find players in the list of entity
2017-04-14 18:41:27	chibill	entities.)
2017-04-14 18:45:54	Tachyon_	eid is a number unique on the session for each entity
2017-04-14 18:46:19	chibill	So I have to have a unique one for each player? 
2017-04-14 18:46:43	Tachyon_	a unique one for each entity
2017-04-14 18:47:28	chibill	We should maybe add that to the wiki.... (I would but I am on mobile right now)
2017-04-14 18:47:37	Tachyon_	it is, somewhere
2017-04-14 18:48:46	chibill	it's not anywhere where EID is mentioned. (at least not on the packet stuff)
2017-04-14 18:55:57	chibill	okay.
2017-04-14 18:56:30	Tachyon_	An EID — or Entity ID — is a 4-byte sequence used to identify a specific entity. An entity's EID is unique on the entire server.
2017-04-14 18:57:56	Tachyon_	see other definitions at data types
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2017-04-14 19:25:18	chibill	just emptying my buffer.
2017-04-14 19:27:06	Tachyon_	.clear()
2017-04-14 19:27:14	Tachyon_	.shrink_to_fit()
2017-04-14 19:27:37	chibill	.... I was clearing my znc buffer... that's why I left and rejoined.... lol
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2017-04-14 20:20:12	wsendon	In this(http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Named_Sound_Effect) packet, sound category is given as a varint enum. But in the categories gist, it looks like it's a string enum?
2017-04-14 20:26:16	chibill	Twisted is giving me pain in quarry... :(
2017-04-14 20:26:30	chibill	Stupid bug in the error reporter.
2017-04-14 20:27:45	kashike	wsendon: protocol writes the enum ordinal as a varint, the string in the category is used for MC|StopSound channel, and /playsound and /stopsound commands
2017-04-14 20:29:13	wsendon	kashike, thanks.
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2017-04-14 22:48:58	chibill	I have been on #twisted to get errors out of queasy...
2017-04-14 22:49:01	chibill	Quarry
2017-04-14 22:50:21	chibill	Some sort of addErrBack they are talking about.
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2017-04-15 16:14:13	Bebras	Hello
2017-04-15 16:15:34	Bebras	I've been trying to implement a primitive Minecraft server. I am currently trying to implement the login. After I send the client a packet with the public key, the client closes the connection and displays "Access token can not be null or empty" error message. Any ideas?
2017-04-15 16:16:44	Tachyon_	if it's a "primitive" server, why are you bothering with encryption ?
2017-04-15 16:17:17	Bebras	I'm just blindly following the docs here http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Login
2017-04-15 16:17:36	Tachyon_	For unauthenticated and localhost connections (either of the two conditions is enough for an unencrypted connection) there is no encryption. In that case Login Start is directly followed by Login Success.
2017-04-15 16:21:45	Tachyon_	Bebras: aka bother later about encryption
2017-04-15 16:22:38	Bebras	Yes, I'm trying to send the Login Success now
2017-04-15 16:22:54	Bebras	I don't really see any docs for UUID formats, is there any format?
2017-04-15 16:23:20	Bebras	Or is a 36char string enough?
2017-04-15 16:28:19	Tachyon_	search on wikipedia
2017-04-15 16:28:25	Tachyon_	I'm just using a library for that
2017-04-15 16:29:11	Redrield	The difference between offline and online UUIDs is that they use v3 and v4 respectively, right
2017-04-15 16:29:11	Redrield	?
2017-04-15 16:40:00	Tachyon_	I think minecraft accepts any uuid
2017-04-15 16:42:56	pokechu22	Bebras: For most cases, you want 2 Longs; but in login success (IIRC) it's a string.  There's docs on how it should be formatted on Player List Item I think
2017-04-15 16:43:12	pokechu22	* spawn player
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2017-04-15 16:46:48	Tachyon_	if you are doing c++, there's a library called boost.uuid
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2017-04-15 21:09:51	anli_	Can I ask about scripcraft in here?
2017-04-15 21:10:04	anli_	Whats wrong with /js for (var i = 0; i < 3; i++) { box(blocks.quartz, 1, 1, 3); fwd(4); } ?
2017-04-15 21:10:13	pokechu22	Scriptcraft is worldedit's thing, yes?
2017-04-15 21:10:14	anli_	I expect that command to draw 3 lines after eachother
2017-04-15 21:10:30	anli_	Its javascript for minecraft, server mod
2017-04-15 21:10:32	anli_	https://scriptcraftjs.org/
2017-04-15 21:10:37	anli_	We use it to teach kids
2017-04-15 21:11:44	pokechu22	Hm, not sure if anyone here's worked with it before, but interesting question.  That looks valid though I don't know too much about it.  What happens when you run that?
2017-04-15 21:11:54	anli_	only one line
2017-04-15 21:12:01	anli_	if I put an alert in the loop, it will happen 3 times
2017-04-15 21:12:17	anli_	Maybe the "drone" is reset in some way
2017-04-15 21:12:50	anli_	Ah, it seems every operation uses a new drone so I need to create that first
2017-04-15 21:17:16	anli_	got two lines with /js for (var i = 0; i < 3; i++) { this.box(blocks.quartz, 1, 1, 3).fwd(4).box(blocks.quartz, 1, 1, 3); }
2017-04-15 21:17:31	anli_	ah, must use another approach
2017-04-15 21:18:53	anli_	I thought this would work: /js var self = this; for (var i = 0; i < 3; i++) { self.box(blocks.quartz, 1, 1, 3); self.fwd(4); }
2017-04-15 21:19:29	pokechu22	Maybe fwd returns a changed state, but doesn't actually change the current state?
2017-04-15 21:20:59	anli_	/js var d = this; for (var i = 0; i < 3; i++) { d = d.box(blocks.quartz, 1, 1, 3); d = d.fwd(4); }
2017-04-15 21:21:03	anli_	that was actually true
2017-04-15 21:21:16	anli_	Now I can make my road :)
2017-04-15 21:21:27	pokechu22	Yep, that's what I found - /js pos = this; for (var i = 0; i < 3; i++) { pos.box(blocks.quartz, 1, 1, 3); pos = pos.fwd(4) }.  Interesting...
2017-04-15 21:23:43	anli_	:)
2017-04-15 21:24:21	pokechu22	Might make sense to use 'var pos = move("start")' instead of this
2017-04-15 21:24:42	pokechu22	(though they're equivalent)
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2017-04-15 21:51:26	Tachyon_	this reminded me how I was teached fractions: with apples cut in parts
2017-04-15 21:54:25	Tachyon_	this is a really big readme the repository has
2017-04-15 21:55:06	Tachyon_	wouldn't be just easier to teach spigot api ?
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2017-04-15 23:34:06	Bebras	I get this error after sending the SpawnPosition packet internal exception: java.io.ioexception: received string length longer than maximum allowed 108 > 64
2017-04-15 23:34:18	Bebras	I didn't send no string...
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2017-04-16 02:07:13	pokechu22	Bebras: That means you're sending the wrong packet ID (or the wrong length, so it's interpreted as a different packet).  The only packet with a string of length 64 is Entity Properties BTW, and the 108 would be the 6th (ish) byte in the packet
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2017-04-16 07:08:49	protryon	this is minecraft forge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w&feature=youtu.be
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2017-04-16 11:20:36	Bebras	Could anyone explain me why this error occurs? "the received encoded string buffer length is longer than maximum allowed 108 > 64". I get it after sending the SpawnPosition packet
2017-04-16 11:25:14	Tachyon_	your packet is wrong
2017-04-16 11:30:56	Bebras	Hmm but it's such a simple packet. 09 43 0000014014000005 Size 9: 1 for packet ID and 8 for the position as a 64 bit int. The Packet ID is 0x43 and then just a random position encoded as a 64bit int
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2017-04-16 11:55:01	Tachyon_	Bebras: what are you sending after this
2017-04-16 12:00:48	Bebras	Nothing
2017-04-16 12:01:42	Bebras	I send LoginSuccess then JoinGame and then SpawnPosition
2017-04-16 12:02:11	Tachyon_	make it output the bytes it send
2017-04-16 12:02:28	Bebras	I did Response bytes: 09430000014014000005
2017-04-16 12:02:47	Bebras	That's the SpawnPosition 
2017-04-16 12:02:55	Tachyon_	put spaces between them
2017-04-16 12:03:15	Bebras	 09 43 00 00 01 40 14 00 00 05
2017-04-16 12:03:24	Tachyon_	hex or dec ?
2017-04-16 12:03:27	Bebras	hex
2017-04-16 12:04:29	Tachyon_	are you sure this is the packet is it complaining about ?
2017-04-16 12:05:21	Tachyon_	try to send first one packet, then two.. etc. and see where it complains the first time
2017-04-16 12:05:54	Tachyon_	eg. first time send just login succes, then send login succes and join game, etc.
2017-04-16 12:06:05	Bebras	Yeah if I comment the SpawnPosition one out the client displays "Logging in" which I think is normal
2017-04-16 12:07:17	Tachyon_	what are you sending before spawn position ?
2017-04-16 12:08:16	Bebras	JoinGame with some hardcoded data:  0f 23 00 00 00 00 00 07 64 65 66 61 75 6c 74
2017-04-16 12:09:49	Tachyon_	0f is 15
2017-04-16 12:09:57	Tachyon_	and there are 14 bytes after it
2017-04-16 12:10:21	Bebras	Blah. I thought I fixed that. Will test, thanks
2017-04-16 12:15:15	Bebras	Apparently I forgot to include the ReduceDebug boolean, so was missing a byte. 
2017-04-16 12:15:39	Tachyon_	you hardcored the size ?
2017-04-16 12:16:26	Bebras	Nah the size was calculated correctly but when formatting the buffer I just forgot about it
2017-04-16 12:16:56	Tachyon_	I calculate the size at the end, after I put everything in the buffer
2017-04-16 12:17:19	Tachyon_	size will always be correct, even if the packet isn't
2017-04-16 12:19:06	Bebras	My current milestone logging the client in to see the world. Then I'll be re-working my packet formatting
2017-04-16 12:19:43	Tachyon_	that isn't that hard
2017-04-16 12:20:29	Bebras	Well I'm still getting the same error so started looking at my LoginSuccess packet. That one seems to have problems too
2017-04-16 12:41:54	Bebras	How important is the packet order for the standard login sequence? http://wiki.vg/Protocol_FAQ
2017-04-16 12:46:47	+md_5	1-9 are mandatory in that order
2017-04-16 12:46:54	+md_5	otherwise it doesnt matter
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2017-04-16 14:09:53	Bebras	Finally solved my error, the problem was terribly malformed JoinGame packet, i'm surprised I fucked it up as much as I did
2017-04-16 14:10:41	Tachyon_	never be surprise how fucked can be a thing
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2017-04-16 17:09:29	pokechu22	Bebras: I mentioned this while you were offline, but: " That means you're sending the wrong packet ID (or the wrong length, so it's interpreted as a different packet).  The only packet with a string of length 64 is Entity Properties and the 108 would be the 6th (ish) byte in the packet".
2017-04-16 17:11:26	Bebras	Ah I disconnected too early, that would have been very helpful
2017-04-16 17:11:33	Bebras	Thanks :)
2017-04-16 17:16:25	clud	I seem to wrongly interpret the documentation of the chunk update packet, or I'm otherwise missing something. I'm sending https://pastebin.com/kDeeNSUZ this chunk data packet, but I don't see anything showing up on the client (I fall out of the world)
2017-04-16 17:16:30	clud	Could anyone take a look at that packet?
2017-04-16 17:16:44	clud	I manually constructed it to see if I read the documentation correctly (it's commented)
2017-04-16 17:18:00	pokechu22	clud: Are you sending just one packet?  Or multiple?
2017-04-16 17:18:08	clud	I tried both
2017-04-16 17:18:18	clud	First one, the multiple, then back to one
2017-04-16 17:18:31	clud	I always sent the same chunk, but with different X, Y
2017-04-16 17:24:19	pokechu22	Hm, that all looks more or less right.  If you press F3 while in-game, does it say "Waiting for chunk..."?
2017-04-16 17:24:39	clud	Nope, it also says 1, 1 chunk cache
2017-04-16 17:24:53	clud	so it did receive it, let me try to send a second one to see if it counts that too
2017-04-16 17:26:15	clud	Now it says chunk cache 2,2
2017-04-16 17:27:47	pokechu22	clud: I think I see what's happening.  "02 00 01        // array of 2 for palette, 0 is air, 1 is stone