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2017-01-29 16:08:39	MomoMC	Hello, I'm looking into the flags for the BossBar packet. I found this: http://pastebin.com/aQGy0Zm8  -- wouldn't it be the same to set bitmask 0x2 like: "if (this.h || this.h) i |= 2;" ?
2017-01-29 16:09:01	MomoMC	"if (this.h || this.i) i |= 2;" *
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2017-01-29 16:37:11	rom1504	no
2017-01-29 16:37:25	rom1504	hmm
2017-01-29 16:42:30	Tachyon_	can I "convince" minecraft client to let me use another username so I can test more easely all the player moving thing ?
2017-01-29 16:43:07	rom1504	offline mode
2017-01-29 16:43:24	Tachyon_	rom1504: how ?
2017-01-29 16:43:58	rom1504	online-mode=false in server.properties
2017-01-29 16:44:21	Tachyon_	yes, but.. in the client, where I put another username ?
2017-01-29 16:45:17	Tachyon_	my server doesn't even have online-mode yet.. lel
2017-01-29 16:47:23	Tachyon_	rom1504: in the original client/launcher
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2017-01-29 17:10:21	MiniDigger	just grab an offline mode launcher, idk if the normal launcher supports offline mode
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2017-01-29 17:46:00	+Grum	it does support it, when you are offline :p
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2017-01-29 18:17:11	Tachyon_	what happened with the logs site
2017-01-29 18:20:57	MiniDigger	rom1504, the log site is 503 ;)
2017-01-29 18:21:13	MiniDigger	Tachyon_, do you need some special logs? 
2017-01-29 18:22:05	Tachyon_	MiniDigger: someone told me to try a cracked client but I can't remember who and I want to ask him where I can find one for linux
2017-01-29 18:23:02	MiniDigger	I personally use this open source launcher Tachyon_ https://www.skyost.eu/skyolauncher/, it supports online and offline mode
2017-01-29 18:23:50	Tachyon_	MiniDigger: let me try it. are you using some linux distro too :D ?
2017-01-29 18:25:15	MiniDigger	not currently, no. my laptop runs mint. that launcher is just packaged as a jar so it works everywhere
2017-01-29 18:29:12	pokechu22	Tachyon_: What I'd recomend using is just MCP
2017-01-29 18:29:18	Tachyon_	MiniDigger: doesn't look to work
2017-01-29 18:29:32	pokechu22	It assigns random names when you log in, plus you have the decompiled source
2017-01-29 18:30:08	Tachyon_	pokechu22: iirc I had something missing in order to build
2017-01-29 18:30:23	pokechu22	If you want 1.11.2 here's the instructions: https://gist.github.com/Pokechu22/97bf5bd528eeadef09dcbae8a15b009f
2017-01-29 18:30:34	pokechu22	What was it missing?  Was it the realms library or something like that?
2017-01-29 18:30:34	Tachyon_	Description	Resource	Path	Location	Type
2017-01-29 18:30:34	Tachyon_	Project 'Client' is missing required library: 'jars/libraries/com/mojang/realms/1.9.0/realms-1.9.0.jar'	Client		Build path	Build Path Problem
2017-01-29 18:30:42	Tachyon_	yes, something like that
2017-01-29 18:31:51	pokechu22	Change it to realms-1.10.11 in a similar location - the realms library's updated several times in the lifetime of a version release and MCP's eclipse configuration doesn't always have the latest one
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2017-01-29 18:35:55	Tachyon_	or just realms-1.9.1.jar
2017-01-29 18:37:13	rom1504	Tachyon_: MiniDigger oh yeah sorry about that, I'll put it back online, my server rebooted that week and some things are still down
2017-01-29 18:39:35	Tachyon_	pokechu22: awesome. one more thing, can I start it without eclipse open ?
2017-01-29 18:43:48	pokechu22	Tachyon_: Yea, there's a runClient script inside of the MCP folder
2017-01-29 18:44:10	pokechu22	You need to run the compile script first though (compiling in eclipse doesn't do the same thing)
2017-01-29 18:44:21	Tachyon_	that's getting better and better
2017-01-29 18:46:49	Tachyon_	pokechu22: you mean startclient.sh ?
2017-01-29 18:47:07	pokechu22	Yea, sorry, mixed it up with forgegradle which uses runClient
2017-01-29 18:48:04	Tachyon_	perfect
2017-01-29 18:48:19	Tachyon_	your guide to get 1.11.2 went perfect
2017-01-29 18:59:19	Tachyon_	another question: when sending player list item, the skin has to be necessarely on the web so I can send an url ?
2017-01-29 18:59:48	Tachyon_	can't I just send the blob base64'd ?
2017-01-29 19:00:45	pokechu22	I think it needs to be a valid blob, but it needs to still have mojang's signature with it for it to be usable.
2017-01-29 19:00:54	pokechu22	I haven't done much with skins though
2017-01-29 19:02:52	Tachyon_	I can't see anywhere saying I can send blobs.. only url
2017-01-29 19:20:54	Tachyon_	pokechu22: it looks like the client is complaining, even if I set Is Signed to false:  Signature is missing from textures payload
2017-01-29 19:28:01	Tachyon_	does the other sections(profileid, profilename) have to be correct ?
2017-01-29 19:28:48	pokechu22	I'm not 100% sure.  You do have MCP though; you can look at it for yourself :P (Search in the code for "Signature is missing from textures payload" and you'll probably be able to find the conditions needed)
2017-01-29 19:35:44	Tachyon_	pokechu22: nothing :(
2017-01-29 19:37:08	pokechu22	Hm, yea, I can't find it either.  Maybe it's in AuthLib instead
2017-01-29 19:39:21	pokechu22	Yep, it's in AuthLib.  It can require the signature to be present in some cases, looks like.  (Authlib isn't obfuscated, so you can use a regular decompiler).  In SkinManager, look for calls to "sessionService.getTextures" with a value that can be true
2017-01-29 19:40:10	Tachyon_	pokechu22: it may be possible to be a problem that my uuids are version 5 and not 3 ?
2017-01-29 19:40:59	pokechu22	I don't recall there being an issue with the skin mismatching a UUID; it just needs to be something that mojang's signed on their servers...  One moment, I recall something.
2017-01-29 19:45:08	pokechu22	Right, it's possible to generate arbitrary skin data (see https://mineskin.org/), but the signature needs to be there in some way, and the image also needs to be hosted on a server ending in '.minecraft.net' or '.mojang.com' (the term 'blob' was referring to JSON blob evidently, and not base64 image blob)
2017-01-29 19:46:27	Tachyon_	that's cheating
2017-01-29 19:47:35	pokechu22	It's... a really strange implementation, indeed.
2017-01-29 19:51:21	Tachyon_	oh well at least it's working. I hardcoded a friend's skin for everyone
2017-01-29 19:53:28	Tachyon_	shouldn't the head appear while tabbing ?
2017-01-29 19:56:40	pokechu22	It should, but if the tab list is a displaying as a line, then you're sending the number of players wrong.  (If the player's name is there but not the head, then something's not working right )
2017-01-29 19:58:23	Tachyon_	pokechu22: http://i.imgur.com/grDbQnN.png
2017-01-29 20:01:36	pokechu22	Looks like it only renders the head if running an integrated server or if encryption is enabled (which IIRC can't happen in offline mode).
2017-01-29 20:02:27	Tachyon_	pokechu22: oh, that's ok
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2017-01-29 21:29:23	GarethTheGreat	my ping_server tool now actually pings the server without crashing it due to dodgy packet encoding
2017-01-29 21:29:32	WD_Gaster	...
2017-01-29 21:30:18	GarethTheGreat	http://pastebin.com/7jKqaSrw
2017-01-29 21:42:57	redstonehelper	you can crash a server with a dodgy ping packet?
2017-01-29 21:45:01	MiniDigger	I hope only his server
2017-01-29 21:45:15	GarethTheGreat	by crash i mean throw an exception
2017-01-29 21:45:18	GarethTheGreat	not a full crash
2017-01-29 21:48:31	GarethTheGreat	libopencraft is nearly complete, then i can get back to my client and my server
2017-01-29 21:48:49	GarethTheGreat	longterm plan: have a server compatible with regular minecraft client, and a client compatible with regular minecraft server
2017-01-29 21:48:58	GarethTheGreat	then replace both with the now free equivalents
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2017-01-29 22:30:00	WD_Gaster_	Gareth...
2017-01-29 22:32:12	WD_Gaster_	nvm
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2017-01-29 22:37:34	rom1504	GarethTheGreat: is it java ?
2017-01-29 22:37:35	rom1504	also
2017-01-29 22:37:52	rom1504	do you know there are minecraft lib, client and servers in many languages
2017-01-29 22:37:59	rom1504	but gl
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2017-01-29 22:56:06	pokechu22	What does "destructing 1" mean when committing in git?  I just saw this once today, when I ran 'git commit --amend'; trying to amend the same way again didn't create it.  Here's a log: http://pastebin.com/iJiCCj1W
2017-01-29 22:56:36	pokechu22	I do see http://stackoverflow.com/q/38118886/3991344, but I did a commit, not a pull (so it couldn't be something from a remote server).  There don't seem to be any commit hooks.
2017-01-29 23:11:09	pokechu22	Can't find anything with the word 'destructing' in the git source or my repo (including git objects).  That's... very odd.
2017-01-29 23:12:59	GarethTheGreat	rom1504: C++
2017-01-29 23:13:04	GarethTheGreat	and i'm writing this lib myself
2017-01-29 23:13:15	GarethTheGreat	was amazed one didn't already exist for modern minecraft
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2017-01-29 23:15:43	ariel_	yo
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2017-01-29 23:16:15	Guest20996	how's life
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2017-01-29 23:19:31	Guest10238102389	Could someone please explain to me why physics are handled clientside?
2017-01-29 23:19:43	Guest10238102389	This seems like an abysmally stupid thing to do
2017-01-29 23:20:13	pokechu22	I'm guessing player physics are handled there because it helps deal with latency.
2017-01-29 23:20:40	pokechu22	All other physics (fallling blocks, redstone, entity movement, etc) are handled serverside with client prediction in some cases
2017-01-29 23:20:55	Guest10238102389	But it was established in like the 90s that trusted client models are no good for games on anything besides consoles
2017-01-29 23:21:23	C4K3	Isn't it just legacy code? I.e. when multiplayer was originally made, everything was a trusted client model, and then it's slowly shifted away from that over time, so it's partially client trusted now
2017-01-29 23:21:47	pokechu22	It's supposed to be a validated model (but, not very well validated).  IIRC way back notch said "Multiplayer with server-side validation" when he was planning the game, maybe because he didn't know better back then too.
2017-01-29 23:22:18	Guest10238102389	It seems to me like there's not much validation actually happening
2017-01-29 23:22:25	C4K3	I just remember the early beta (or was it alpha?) versions where practically everything was clientside. Even your inventory and location was stored client side
2017-01-29 23:22:35	Guest10238102389	Hitting switches through walls, onGround when flying, etc
2017-01-29 23:22:46	Guest10238102389	Jeez
2017-01-29 23:23:35	Guest10238102389	The Division was an excellent example of why that's a horrible idea
2017-01-29 23:23:37	pokechu22	Yea, there isn't as much validation as there should be, but there is some
2017-01-29 23:24:09	C4K3	You pretty much need plugins (e.g. NCP) to do proper validation
2017-01-29 23:24:37	Guest10238102389	Yeah, that's what I've heard
2017-01-29 23:24:52	Guest10238102389	It's a shame horrible practices have gimped this game in so many ways
2017-01-29 23:26:48	WD_Gaster_	I remember when "sign update" packet was always accepted by server and you could change text on signs... even if these were protected by cuboid xD
2017-01-29 23:28:20	Guest10238102389	Heh
2017-01-29 23:28:36	C4K3	Oh I miss update sign, it's not the same not being able to watch other people type
2017-01-29 23:29:34	pokechu22	I don't recall watching other people type ever working in multiplayer (though your own sign displaying text as you type did work in the past IIRC)
2017-01-29 23:31:10	rom1504	GarethTheGreat: what about cuberite ?
2017-01-29 23:33:15	Guest10238102389	I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the way that minecraft packs packets
2017-01-29 23:34:51	pokechu22	What specifically about it?
2017-01-29 23:35:50	Guest10238102389	VarInts
2017-01-29 23:35:57	Guest10238102389	The rest is pretty straightforward
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2017-01-29 23:37:13	pokechu22	Ah, yea, VarInts are a bit hard to understand, but basically, they're a way of storing numbers in a smaller area.  The exact format is described in data types, along with a few sample implementations.
2017-01-29 23:38:37	Guest10238102389	I understand the concept of the first 7 bits being the number, and the last being whether or not another byte follows, but the byte operations used in the examples is soooo far out of my league
2017-01-29 23:39:25	pokechu22	Which language are you trying to implement it in?
2017-01-29 23:39:37	pokechu22	(and yea, the >>> operator is a bit strange)
2017-01-29 23:39:49	Guest10238102389	C++
2017-01-29 23:40:08	C4K3	If it's too strange you can surely find dozens of implementations in C++ already and just reuse one of them
2017-01-29 23:40:13	Guest10238102389	It's a little embarrasing that I've never gotten around to learning this stuff
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2017-01-29 23:41:06	pokechu22	The C++ equivalent is basically casting to an unsigned type first and then using the normal >> operator
2017-01-29 23:41:50	GarethTheGreat	rom1504: cuberite isn't a library
2017-01-29 23:42:26	pokechu22	Say, "unsigned int num = static_cast<unsigned int>(value)", and then use >> instead of >>>
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2017-01-29 23:45:16	Guest10238102389	I sort of see what you're saying
2017-01-29 23:45:32	Guest10238102389	What about the bit signifying whether or not ther'll be another byte
2017-01-29 23:45:48	Guest10238102389	Should I just set it manually with a bit_array[8] or something?
2017-01-29 23:47:23	pokechu22	You can set it with a bitwise or (|) with the number 128 (which is 0b10000000 in binary or 0x80 in hexadecimal)
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2017-01-29 23:48:12	Guest10238102389	That makes sense
2017-01-29 23:48:17	Guest10238102389	Thanks!
2017-01-29 23:48:55	pokechu22	No problem
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2017-01-29 23:54:52	WD_Gaster	I don't know it too. :C It's not published. Minecraft isn't open source. :F
2017-01-29 23:55:26	Guest10238102389	Which is a real shame
2017-01-29 23:55:30	Guest10238102389	Just sayin
2017-01-29 23:57:05	pokechu22	Well, it kinda is open source (mcp), though not licensed as open-source. Searge provides the base MCP mappings, and he's a mojang employee.
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2017-01-30 00:05:12	Guest10238102389	That's interesting
2017-01-30 00:05:41	Guest10238102389	I've fiddled with mcp in the past, but I never knew searge was with mojang
2017-01-30 00:10:38	rom1504	GarethTheGreat: sure. But it seems to me it would be easier to extract the network code from it and making it a library than rebuilding everything
2017-01-30 00:11:31	pokechu22	Try running `/help' in a command block :P  (also, if you want to set up MCP for 1.11.2, see https://gist.github.com/Pokechu22/97bf5bd528eeadef09dcbae8a15b009f - the full mappings haven't been set up or something like that so it needs manual configuration)
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2017-01-30 00:13:13	GarethTheGreat	rom1504: my code is more generic - it dynamically generates classes for each packet type
2017-01-30 00:13:47	Guest10238102389	Oh man
2017-01-30 00:13:57	Guest10238102389	I haven't messed with minecraft in a few years
2017-01-30 00:14:07	Guest10238102389	They've really changed it up quite a bit
2017-01-30 00:17:34	rom1504	GarethTheGreat: okay interesting, are you generatic c++ code or using c++ meta programming ? what are you generating from ?
2017-01-30 00:18:31	pokechu22	One thing to note is that cuberite's packet system doesn't have each packet as a class, but instead it has a single class that implements the entire protocol (and subclasses for different versions).  It works for cuberite, but it isn't too modular.
2017-01-30 00:18:56	GarethTheGreat	i'm generating using a python script from burger data
2017-01-30 00:19:10	GarethTheGreat	each packet class inherits from a base packet class
2017-01-30 00:19:36	GarethTheGreat	then there's a wrapper class named raw_packet which handles the packet length and stuff for network transmission
2017-01-30 00:19:43	GarethTheGreat	not got round to implementing compression yet
2017-01-30 00:20:00	pokechu22	Oooh, one thing I should mention.  Burger has an issue with a few of the more complex packets - see https://github.com/Pokechu22/Burger/issues/2
2017-01-30 00:20:11	pokechu22	Also, enums are a bit strange because of the way java's switch on enum works
2017-01-30 00:20:19	GarethTheGreat	i've accounted for packets burger fails on
2017-01-30 00:20:35	GarethTheGreat	basically it spits out a warning and tells me to manually specify them
2017-01-30 00:21:28	rom1504	burger protocol data is not complete last I checked, but maybe it would be time to generate our protocol.json from it if it's already usable for these kind of things. At least for the packets where it's complete
2017-01-30 00:21:55	+md_5	really wiki.vg should be in a parseable format
2017-01-30 00:22:19	GarethTheGreat	it's "usable enough"
2017-01-30 00:22:26	pokechu22	Yea, it would be nice to make something both human-readable and parsable
2017-01-30 00:22:43	GarethTheGreat	quarry has a hackish way to grab packet names from the wiki
2017-01-30 00:23:02	pokechu22	I know the regular minecraft wiki uses lua scripts to generate tables from data - such an approach might be usable on wiki.vg too
2017-01-30 00:23:11	rom1504	we're still planning on improving http://prismarinejs.github.io/minecraft-data/?d=protocol so it has comments and all from wiki.vg, but well parsing wikitext is annoying
2017-01-30 00:23:52	rom1504	they use lua to store aliases
2017-01-30 00:24:28	+md_5	pokechu22 are those scripts somewhere?
2017-01-30 00:24:30	rom1504	pokechu22: where is the data example collected with burger ?
2017-01-30 00:24:53	rom1504	md_5: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Module:Crafting
2017-01-30 00:25:07	rom1504	(for example)
2017-01-30 00:25:57	pokechu22	md_5: https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=828 (see also: https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Template:Lua)
2017-01-30 00:26:12	pokechu22	rom1504: What do you mean by the "data example"?
2017-01-30 00:26:34	rom1504	hmm something on github pages showing the data extracted from minecraft with burger
2017-01-30 00:27:06	pokechu22	You mean like http://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.11.html?
2017-01-30 00:27:16	rom1504	yes thanjs
2017-01-30 00:27:36	rom1504	ah the protocol data is not there though
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2017-01-30 00:28:03	rom1504	http://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.11.json ah it's there got it
2017-01-30 00:28:18	pokechu22	That's generated with BurgerVitrine (https://github.com/pokechu22/burgervitrine).  IIRC vitrine used to support scraping wiki.vg but I haven't worked with it before.
2017-01-30 00:29:21	WD_Gaster	I am writing program that gets server status... Maybe it will work someday... http://pastebin.com/JejG4Sa1 http://pastebin.com/UmAwGryt
2017-01-30 00:33:30	pokechu22	WD_Gaster: Nothing about that looks too odd (but I can't quite read C).  What issue is it having?
2017-01-30 00:36:24	WD_Gaster	Well... It works fine, but I don't have idea how to make real parser. 
2017-01-30 00:38:20	WD_Gaster	and now everything is "in-code"
2017-01-30 00:38:21	WD_Gaster	for eg. "handshake_data[] = { 0xD2, 0x01, 0x00, 0x63, 0xDD, 0x01 };"
2017-01-30 00:38:46	WD_Gaster	I have manually created this packet ;-;
2017-01-30 00:38:56	WD_Gaster	It's not "parsing".
2017-01-30 00:41:34	pokechu22	The general next step is to create a class that reads/writes higher level types of some sort from/to a buffer, so that you can call 'packet.WriteVarInt' or such
2017-01-30 00:42:49	pokechu22	That's easier said than done, of course, but it's the next logical move to organizing the code in a way you can expand easilly
2017-01-30 00:44:12	WD_Gaster	and I don't know how to organise send/recv buffers. 
2017-01-30 00:44:16	WD_Gaster	How large they need to be?
2017-01-30 00:45:46	pokechu22	Pretty sure the maximum size is 2 megabytes, but for most packets you won't need that much space.
2017-01-30 00:46:02	pokechu22	It's only with plugin channels that you can get near to that limit
2017-01-30 00:47:44	Guest10238102389	There's also zlib compression if you really need big packets
2017-01-30 00:50:41	WD_Gaster	Let's stay with "parsing" topic, not "compression". Many things need to be done first. ;D If I knew good way to parse VarIts I would read lenght and ID and then redirect packet to specfied buffer ;F 
2017-01-30 00:51:45	WD_Gaster	Actually minecraft's varints are "unsigned LEB128"... :F
2017-01-30 00:52:13	pokechu22	One tip is that a VarInt can never be longer than 5 bytes, and a VarLong can never be longer than 10.  Of course, it won't always be 5 bytes, so you'd need to put stuff back into the buffer afterwards.
2017-01-30 00:53:37	WD_Gaster	oh... ;D "put stuff back into the buffer afterwards" I didn't thought about this. :D TY
2017-01-30 00:59:47	WD_Gaster	One more question: What notchian client/server does if they meet longer VarInt/VarLong than 5/10 bytes?
2017-01-30 01:00:27	GarethTheGreat	i prefer never pulling it out of the buffer
2017-01-30 01:00:36	GarethTheGreat	just parse direct from the buffer and then and only then pull from the buffer
2017-01-30 01:02:10	pokechu22	WD_Gaster: If it's longer than 5 bytes they throw an exception and then disconnect.
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2017-01-30 01:07:11	WD_Gaster	well... I wrote my program to use pointer, so I can move pointer back to its original position.
2017-01-30 01:07:22	WD_Gaster	So... nothing will be overwritten until I won't use circular buffers.
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2017-01-30 01:09:28	WD_Gaster	Separate buffers for specific packets seem be good idea. :D
2017-01-30 01:11:10	WD_Gaster	It would be easier if every field in packet has const size.
2017-01-30 01:11:35	+md_5	each packet is prefixed by its size
2017-01-30 01:11:49	+md_5	check it for sanity and allocate a buffer that big
2017-01-30 01:14:09	WD_Gaster	OK. I will try do that.
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2017-01-30 02:02:05	GarethTheGreat	https://github.com/GarethNelson/opencraft/blob/master/libopencraft/examples/ping_server_basic_client.cpp < this is what my API looks like
2017-01-30 02:02:55	GarethTheGreat	i should probably start adding field names beyond just alphabetical names
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2017-01-30 02:18:04	WD_Gaster	I thought I am writing in C++... I was wrong. D:
2017-01-30 02:19:08	GarethTheGreat	how can you be wrong about what language you're using?
2017-01-30 02:19:27	coderbot	GarethTheGreat: Some of the function names in the API seem a little terse
2017-01-30 02:19:59	GarethTheGreat	coderbot: example?
2017-01-30 02:20:17	coderbot	You wouldn't need the comment on the line calling "send_hs" if the function was named "send_handshake"
2017-01-30 02:20:42	GarethTheGreat	send_hs is quicker to type and the comment is only there because it's example/test code
2017-01-30 02:21:42	coderbot	It's really just a matter of personal preference
2017-01-30 02:22:12	GarethTheGreat	indeed
2017-01-30 02:22:14	WD_Gaster	Well... I am not using OOB in C++, so it looks like C. :F
2017-01-30 02:22:41	GarethTheGreat	WD_Gaster: i have a habit of doing that at times
2017-01-30 02:23:10	GarethTheGreat	to be honest i prefer plain C a lot of the time, but there are some advantages to C++ - not having to do low level string manipulation for example
2017-01-30 02:26:47	WD_Gaster	I think you wouldn't like assembly then. ;D
2017-01-30 02:26:50	WD_Gaster	Maybe someday I will taste OOB's usefulness... :D 
2017-01-30 02:29:13	GarethTheGreat	heh, C is basically high level portable asm
2017-01-30 02:29:37	GarethTheGreat	i don't really write asm a lot though, only the odd bit of inline where it's needed
2017-01-30 02:29:54	GarethTheGreat	like in an OS kernel i was working on, or when coding for AVR chips
2017-01-30 02:30:44	WD_Gaster	I wrote bootsector once.
2017-01-30 02:35:07	WD_Gaster	It is just displaying "!" in 16 bit mode, and "Hi" after jumping into protected mode. I am proud of it! xD
2017-01-30 02:35:08	WD_Gaster	...
2017-01-30 02:35:24	WD_Gaster	Well... I even tried creating my own programming language with using bare x86 machine code, but it stopped at generating executable file. D:
2017-01-30 02:38:32	WD_Gaster	I mean my compiler generates machine code, not programmer writes it. ;D
2017-01-30 02:38:33	GarethTheGreat	my kernel got to the point where i could load binaries from a mounted filesystem and run them
2017-01-30 02:38:38	GarethTheGreat	but then i got bored
2017-01-30 02:39:08	GarethTheGreat	https://www.youtube.com/user/gwengareth/videos?sort=dd&shelf_id=0&view=0 < look at the zoidberg videos
2017-01-30 02:40:36	WD_Gaster	Is your kernel published somewhere?
2017-01-30 02:41:02	WD_Gaster	gwengareth.subsribers++; // :D
2017-01-30 02:47:57	GarethTheGreat	WD_Gaster: it's on my github
2017-01-30 02:48:06	WD_Gaster	Okie
2017-01-30 02:48:08	GarethTheGreat	https://github.com/GarethNelson
2017-01-30 02:58:05	GarethTheGreat	and first successful player spawn, woohoo
2017-01-30 03:00:11	WD_Gaster	Good job! :D
2017-01-30 03:00:56	GarethTheGreat	https://github.com/GarethNelson/opencraft/blob/master/libopencraft/examples/spawn_player.cpp
2017-01-30 03:07:09	GarethTheGreat	next i'm going to hack together a little chat client
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2017-01-30 03:29:57	GarethTheGreat	first i need to implement the bloody compression, ugh
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2017-01-30 04:03:57	WD_Gaster	zlib?
2017-01-30 04:14:01	GarethTheGreat	yeah, but it's still a pain
2017-01-30 04:14:29	GarethTheGreat	for now i've disabled compression on the server, i'll revisit compression support after doing some more fun stuff
2017-01-30 04:14:33	GarethTheGreat	http://pastebin.com/YjHXhDQU < like this
2017-01-30 04:15:48	GarethTheGreat	getting some weird nondeterministic behaviour right now though
2017-01-30 04:16:16	GarethTheGreat	when i run inside gdb, it mysteriously works
2017-01-30 04:16:24	GarethTheGreat	which is annoying but suggests a timing error
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2017-01-30 04:57:36	WD_Gaster	Why '<' and '>' are "escaped"? Can they be just '<' and '>'? Doesn't JSON allow using these characters?
2017-01-30 04:57:49	WD_Gaster	(escaped charcter: eg.: "\u003c")
2017-01-30 05:06:10	coderbot	According to RFC7159, any character can be escaped, but the only characters that need to be escaped are '?', '\', '"', and control characters
2017-01-30 05:06:20	coderbot	So yes, JSON allows using those characters
2017-01-30 05:06:38	coderbot	But the particular encoder chose to escape them for some reason
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2017-01-30 05:09:54	Andrio	Why '?'?
2017-01-30 05:12:53	coderbot	Andrio: Depends on the encoder - I'll assume Gson (the one the Notchian client uses), which does that if htmlSafe is true.
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2017-01-30 18:02:37	WD_Gaster	Is someone here?
2017-01-30 18:02:44	Tachyon_	I'm someone
2017-01-30 18:03:57	WD_Gaster	OK. 
2017-01-30 18:04:00	WD_Gaster	At least someone is here. xD
2017-01-30 18:05:08	Tachyon_	what do you need ?
2017-01-30 18:12:01	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: ^
2017-01-30 18:12:30	Tachyon_	again logs are down :(
2017-01-30 18:43:08	WD_Gaster	I have everything what I need to continue writing my minecraft client.
2017-01-30 18:43:09	WD_Gaster	I wanted listen someone's conversation here just to get know something new.
2017-01-30 18:43:22	WD_Gaster	I am still beginner :D
2017-01-30 18:44:14	WD_Gaster	My "client" just only pings minecraft server for stasus, right now.
2017-01-30 18:44:51	WD_Gaster	Well... I need real packet parser.
2017-01-30 18:45:38	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: we can talk after I'll restart my computer :D
2017-01-30 18:45:42	WD_Gaster	Now it just sends raw char array (manually written by me ;-; ) to server to get its status
2017-01-30 18:45:51	WD_Gaster	Okay.
2017-01-30 18:45:55	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: in what language are you writting your client ?
2017-01-30 18:46:56	WD_Gaster	C++ without OOB. :C
2017-01-30 18:47:06	Tachyon_	OOP ?
2017-01-30 18:47:23	WD_Gaster	right xD OOP*
2017-01-30 18:47:41	Tachyon_	why without ?
2017-01-30 18:48:22	WD_Gaster	I can't use it, because I didn't learned how to use it.
2017-01-30 18:48:24	 *	Tachyon_ is restarting the computer
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2017-01-30 18:53:06	Tachyon_	where are you
2017-01-30 18:53:32	Tachyon_	I can't remember your name
2017-01-30 18:53:49	WD_Gaster	;P
2017-01-30 18:54:02	Tachyon_	so why you don't learn oop ?
2017-01-30 18:54:22	Tachyon_	c++ original name was c with classes
2017-01-30 18:54:31	Tachyon_	this should make you think
2017-01-30 18:58:01	WD_Gaster	I am considering lerning OOB. It seems be useful in some way.
2017-01-30 18:58:28	Tachyon_	"some ways"
2017-01-30 18:58:41	Tachyon_	c++ is an oop language
2017-01-30 18:59:50	WD_Gaster	C++ is multi-paradigm
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2017-01-30 19:00:46	Tachyon_	I see it more OOP than multi-paradigm
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2017-01-30 19:00:56	Tachyon_	because all the things it has about classes
2017-01-30 19:01:05	Tachyon_	anyway, you said your client can ping ?
2017-01-30 19:01:53	WD_Gaster	ping packet is used, but does not really telling ping in ms
2017-01-30 19:03:25	Tachyon_	what libraries are you using ?
2017-01-30 19:03:44	WD_Gaster	now, only WinSock2
2017-01-30 19:03:58	Tachyon_	umm
2017-01-30 19:04:04	Tachyon_	client windows only :( ?
2017-01-30 19:04:47	WD_Gaster	well... I didn't find others libraries to do networking
2017-01-30 19:05:01	Tachyon_	boost.asio
2017-01-30 19:07:04	WD_Gaster	I will rewrite my "client" with using this. 
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2017-01-30 19:07:30	Tachyon_	it is a "little" confusing at first, but after a while you'll realise it's easier than winapi and cross-platform
2017-01-30 19:11:24	Tachyon_	but still better than how winapi does(throwing a truck at you and expecting to catch it, or at least this is how I felt it)
2017-01-30 19:12:34	WD_Gaster	Actual code: http://pastebin.com/a6b2LZtR http://pastebin.com/Z8sGAZsU http://pastebin.com/0J7NxK5S
2017-01-30 19:13:29	rom1504	Tachyon_: https://logs.rom1504.fr/parts2/109.txt back
2017-01-30 19:13:45	Tachyon_	rom1504: finally <3
2017-01-30 19:13:50	Tachyon_	thanks
2017-01-30 19:15:15	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: iirc send is synchronous, right ?
2017-01-30 19:16:30	WD_Gaster	"iirc"? I don't know.
2017-01-30 19:16:35	WD_Gaster	anyway recv/send is blocking in my code
2017-01-30 19:17:13	rom1504	if I recall correctly
2017-01-30 19:17:31	rom1504	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=iirc
2017-01-30 19:17:47	WD_Gaster	xD thx
2017-01-30 19:17:53	WD_Gaster	(blocking = freezes thread until reciving/sending is done)
2017-01-30 19:17:57	Tachyon_	if you want I can show you how I've done a server pinger with asio and sync operations. it is almost correct, but it's working given the small packets for ping
2017-01-30 19:18:10	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: this is synchronous
2017-01-30 19:20:10	WD_Gaster	Sure. I want see it.
2017-01-30 19:24:56	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: https://gist.github.com/xTachyon/ac124232c8a689af9506036192cc72ba
2017-01-30 19:25:20	Tachyon_	it uses early versions of some classes I am using in my server like packetreader, writer, bytebuffer
2017-01-30 19:25:37	Tachyon_	and a lot of boost
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2017-01-30 20:01:32	WD_Gaster	Hi?
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2017-01-30 20:22:01	WD_Gaster	http://pastebin.com/ULLXEbN4
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2017-01-30 20:38:10	WD_Gaster	.
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2017-01-30 21:22:06	Not-63f6	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/PrismarineJS/mineflayer/compare/059f65272927...a3afb6f57e17
2017-01-30 21:22:07	Not-63f6	[mineflayer] rom1504 a3afb6f - Merge pull request #470 from PrismarineJS/internalId check internalId if network id not found, fix #430
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2017-01-30 22:35:43	WD_Gaster	mhmmm...
2017-01-30 22:43:42	WD_Gaster	I fell alone here. :C
2017-01-30 23:22:50	x10A94	Did you break any bones
2017-01-30 23:23:55	rom1504	:)
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2017-01-31 00:44:59	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/1b13efa2bfb5...304f953e5e50
2017-01-31 00:45:00	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer 304f953 - core: Print out bind dimensions.
2017-01-31 00:48:49	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/304f953e5e50...553d2b840e50
2017-01-31 00:48:51	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer 553d2b8 - core: Use resize dimensions, not window dimensions for DefaultTarget.
2017-01-31 01:01:31	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/553d2b840e50...e082ca7333af
2017-01-31 01:01:32	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer e082ca7 - core: Use WS_CLIPCHILDREN and WS_CLIPSIBLINGS when switching to Normal.
2017-01-31 01:11:49	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/e082ca7333af...ac03804dbbaa
2017-01-31 01:11:50	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer ac03804 - core: Let the DefWindowProc see WM_SIZE.
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2017-01-31 11:36:24	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±13] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/9a75c6436828...8d1f4f8ac1e1
2017-01-31 11:36:25	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker 9f95198 - lib: Update SDL bindings
2017-01-31 11:36:27	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker 8d1f4f8 - core: Use new SDL bindings
2017-01-31 11:46:19	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/8d1f4f8ac1e1...c17fe97fa2f9
2017-01-31 11:46:20	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker c17fe97 - core: Ugly hack while Linux node are using old SDL
2017-01-31 12:10:50	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 21 commits to win32 [+1/-0/±24] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/ac03804dbbaa...dc27ee6e4625
2017-01-31 12:10:52	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker 6e8cdb9 - lib: SDL2 changes
2017-01-31 12:10:53	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer 56310d7 - core: Import rough win32 code.
2017-01-31 12:10:55	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer c4d9f36 - core: mouseUp and mouseDown through win32 core.
2017-01-31 12:10:56	Not-63f6	[Charge] ... and 18 more commits.
2017-01-31 12:19:16	WD_Gaster	;D
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2017-01-31 12:35:13	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/dc27ee6e4625...e70d571fefaa
2017-01-31 12:35:14	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer e70d571 - core: Clean up, remove WS_OVERLAPPED from Normal.
2017-01-31 12:47:29	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker pushed 2 commits to win32 [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/e70d571fefaa...6a2733a4e0e5
2017-01-31 12:47:31	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker 59b6ea8 - core: Some other tidying
2017-01-31 12:47:32	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker 6a2733a - core: Now with more bugs
2017-01-31 13:00:50	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/6a2733a4e0e5...da423c7b735b
2017-01-31 13:00:52	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer da423c7 - core: Reset rect before styling.
2017-01-31 13:11:16	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/da423c7b735b...d83191f27682
2017-01-31 13:11:18	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker d83191f - core: Fix resetRect not being called
2017-01-31 13:23:43	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/d83191f27682...48a6d0079606
2017-01-31 13:23:45	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer 48a6d00 - core: Use all coordinates for SetWindowPos.
2017-01-31 13:38:02	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/48a6d0079606...fcdfedf61270
2017-01-31 13:38:04	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer fcdfedf - core: Disable gl context before window move.
2017-01-31 13:48:02	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/fcdfedf61270...523a0fa4e38a
2017-01-31 13:48:03	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer 523a0fa - core: Set exstyles when changing modes.
2017-01-31 13:52:32	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/523a0fa4e38a...ba3554fe6cb6
2017-01-31 13:52:33	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer ba3554f - core: Adjust with coreWindow.Normal.
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2017-01-31 14:13:37	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/c17fe97fa2f9...c4cd405520f5
2017-01-31 14:13:38	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer c4cd405 - core: Remove Borderless.
2017-01-31 14:20:35	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 31 commits to win32 [+1/-0/±35] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/ba3554fe6cb6...40688767b7f3
2017-01-31 14:20:37	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker 239050a - lib: SDL2 changes
2017-01-31 14:20:38	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer ac67295 - core: Import rough win32 code.
2017-01-31 14:20:40	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer 43740c7 - core: mouseUp and mouseDown through win32 core.
2017-01-31 14:20:41	Not-63f6	[Charge] ... and 28 more commits.
2017-01-31 14:37:21	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+1/-0/±6] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/40688767b7f3...a32bcb3f834f
2017-01-31 14:37:23	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker a32bcb3 - core: Add win32 backend.
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2017-01-31 15:00:29	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to win32 [+1/-0/±42] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/a32bcb3f834f...c2869f88d1db
2017-01-31 15:00:31	Not-63f6	[Charge] Wallbraker c2869f8 - core: Add win32 backend.
2017-01-31 15:11:25	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±42] https://github.com/VoltLang/Charge/compare/c4cd405520f5...c2869f88d1db
2017-01-31 15:15:48	Not-63f6	[Charge] bhelyer deleted branch win32
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2017-01-31 16:02:43	WD_Gaster	Hi, Tachyon!
2017-01-31 16:02:54	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: hello
2017-01-31 16:03:44	WD_Gaster	Can I ping your server? ;D
2017-01-31 16:04:33	Tachyon_	um.. yeah, let me just compile it(I'm on windows right now)
2017-01-31 16:05:12	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: ok done
2017-01-31 16:06:34	WD_Gaster	IP wan't changed? Is IP still the same?
2017-01-31 16:06:52	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: should be the same
2017-01-31 16:07:24	Tachyon_	crash :D
2017-01-31 16:09:03	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: now you can say you crashed my server in two OSes(ubuntu gnome 16.04 and windows 10)
2017-01-31 16:09:32	WD_Gaster	xD how and why it has crashed?
2017-01-31 16:09:42	Tachyon_	same as yesterday
2017-01-31 16:10:21	Tachyon_	for whatever reason in the packet buffer it's nothing after size
2017-01-31 16:10:32	Tachyon_	or at least this is how my server parses it
2017-01-31 16:11:16	Tachyon_	and I tend to trust it because it worked so far pretty good with real mc client
2017-01-31 16:13:11	WD_Gaster	Does your server use somehow IP, port or protocol field in handshake packet?
2017-01-31 16:13:49	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: iirc it just parses it until it gets to state
2017-01-31 16:14:37	WD_Gaster	Let me try again. I will use WireShark for this time.
2017-01-31 16:15:20	Tachyon_	yes, it just skips them
2017-01-31 16:26:37	WD_Gaster	It seems my "client" sends these bytes: char peer0_2[] = { /* Packet 5 */
2017-01-31 16:26:37	WD_Gaster	0x07, 0x00, 0x00, 0x01, 0x21, 0x63, 0xdd, 0x01, 
2017-01-31 16:26:37	WD_Gaster	0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00 };
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2017-01-31 18:48:55	WD_Gaster	Tachyon_: 
2017-01-31 18:48:55	WD_Gaster	It seems my "client" sends these bytes: char peer0_2[] = { /* Packet 5 */
2017-01-31 18:48:55	WD_Gaster	0x07, 0x00, 0x00, 0x01, 0x21, 0x63, 0xdd, 0x01, 
2017-01-31 18:48:55	WD_Gaster	0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00 };
2017-01-31 18:49:56	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: *msvc horribly slow compiler is compiling*
2017-01-31 18:51:40	WD_Gaster	When did compiling started? ;D
2017-01-31 18:52:00	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: few mins ago
2017-01-31 18:52:30	WD_Gaster	MinGW compiles mine projects in less than 30 seconds... even on Pentium III (600MHz)
2017-01-31 18:52:33	Tachyon_	after starting and breaking the first few times because sometimes it takes minutes to compile just on mostly empty files
2017-01-31 18:53:06	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: on ubuntu clang compiles my full project under 30 seconds
2017-01-31 18:54:15	Tachyon_	WD_Gaster: it's true it really uses the proc and I can't do really a lot while compiling, but it's damn better than waiting minutes
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2017-01-31 19:56:43	Tachyon_	where is pokechu22 when you need him
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2017-01-31 20:59:01	GarethTheGreat	you know you can use clang or gcc on windows if you really MUST use windows to dev on
2017-01-31 20:59:22	GarethTheGreat	personally i can't stand trying to code on windows without having cygwin or msys installed
2017-01-31 21:02:44	MiniDigger	I added all of msys bin stuff to the path
2017-01-31 21:02:47	MiniDigger	works nice :D
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2017-01-31 21:10:24	GarethTheGreat	i'll always be a unix man
2017-01-31 21:10:41	GarethTheGreat	well, maybe that'll change in 100 years or so
2017-01-31 21:10:51	GarethTheGreat	wonder what OS will be around then
2017-01-31 21:11:50	Tachyon_	GarethTheGreat: I also have mingw 6.2 but I haven't compiled with msvc in a long time and I said let's give it a shot
2017-01-31 21:11:55	Tachyon_	same bug on mingw too
2017-01-31 21:15:13	GarethTheGreat	speaking of bugs, i have some bugs i need to work out in my networking code
2017-01-31 21:15:30	GarethTheGreat	so close to a pure C++ implementation of minecraft's protocol i can taste it....
2017-01-31 21:17:10	Tachyon_	GarethTheGreat: how are you gonna do packets
2017-01-31 21:17:38	GarethTheGreat	Tachyon_: packets are basically already done in my code - working on a "packet stream" that deserialises from a TCP socket
2017-01-31 21:17:44	Tachyon_	separate class for each with nicely .read and .write
2017-01-31 21:17:54	GarethTheGreat	.pack() and .unpack()
2017-01-31 21:17:56	Tachyon_	or same class with different members like cuberite ?
2017-01-31 21:18:19	GarethTheGreat	autogenerated classes
2017-01-31 21:18:29	GarethTheGreat	look in libopencraft/ in my github opencraft repo
2017-01-31 21:27:40	GarethTheGreat	non-deterministic behaviour drives me mad
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2017-01-31 23:45:59	pokechu22	I guess if it helps (not that Tachyon_ is online right now), on weekdays I'm avaliable for roughly 5 minutes at 2:00 PM UTC (6 AM my time) and after roughly 11 PM UTC (3 PM my time) for a while (on wednesdays, it can be earlier).
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2017-02-01 01:51:37	Not-63f6	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 4 commits to master [+35/-13/±22] https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/compare/52c61a130a44...c78155f63c4b
2017-02-01 01:51:38	Not-63f6	[minecraft-data] rom1504 c78155f - Merge pull request #142 from PrismarineJS/split_protocol_schema split the protocol schema
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2017-02-01 03:20:08	GarethTheGreat	anyone know a way to tell the server to disable compression completely?
2017-02-01 03:20:55	GarethTheGreat	disregard, found the setting
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2017-02-01 06:50:24	GarethTheGreat	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3jqlQlWQAA4zQ2.jpg:large
2017-02-01 07:04:11	GarethTheGreat	pokechu22: check out the screenshot
2017-02-01 07:05:09	pokechu22	Neat!
2017-02-01 07:13:22	GarethTheGreat	wondering where to go next with my API
2017-02-01 07:13:44	GarethTheGreat	chunk data would seem the next thing to do - which also implies an opencraft::blocks namespace full of block classes
2017-02-01 07:14:44	pokechu22	I'm working on rewriting the smp map format page to be a bit less confusing; you might want to wait 'till I've finished (or at least gotten a draft) of that.
2017-02-01 07:14:46	GarethTheGreat	or of course, implementing compression
2017-02-01 07:14:52	GarethTheGreat	which is a total pain
2017-02-01 07:15:27	GarethTheGreat	i suppose i should get that over with - it's probably the cause of my startup lag
2017-02-01 07:15:34	pokechu22	Well, after compression, there's also always encryption :D
2017-02-01 07:15:58	pokechu22	And yea, getting compression is probably a good place to start, but it's not easy
2017-02-01 07:16:09	GarethTheGreat	is crypto really required if you're not using mojang's servers?
2017-02-01 07:16:26	GarethTheGreat	could i get away with just wrapping the socket up in SSL and calling it a day?
2017-02-01 07:16:42	GarethTheGreat	i.e not bothering to implement the minecraft-specific crypto, just relying on SSL
2017-02-01 07:17:13	GarethTheGreat	actually that's something, i'll take a break from lowlevel stuff and build an auth server
2017-02-01 07:17:17	pokechu22	You'd need to use the same crypto for the client to understand how to decrypt it, I think.
2017-02-01 07:17:25	pokechu22	I don't entirely know how either work.
2017-02-01 07:18:20	GarethTheGreat	well i'm working on a server and a client, generally trying to keep minecraft compatibility.... but... i think i can get away with just using SSL
2017-02-01 07:41:08	GarethTheGreat	actually, fuck that for now
2017-02-01 07:44:54	+Fador	you could skip the encryption before by sending "Login Success" instead of "Encryption Request" in the server side, no idea if it still works like that =b
2017-02-01 07:46:53	+Fador	but I don't think it's possible to skip it from the client side
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2017-02-01 15:17:38	Na	GarethTheGreat: http://www.dest-unreach.org/socat/doc/socat-openssltunnel.html <- Socat may be handy if you want to test against the official client, but also have TLS in the mix. Assuming you can ask it to skip encryption at least
2017-02-01 15:22:03	GarethTheGreat	Na: no point in using an external process
2017-02-01 15:22:14	GarethTheGreat	i'll put it in the library using openssl/libressl
2017-02-01 15:31:29	Na	It's still handy if you're trying to track down some server-y hiccup and want to leave TLS on, but don't want to use a custom client
2017-02-01 15:31:38	Na	Maybe I'm just too fond of socat :P
2017-02-01 15:31:54	 *	Na <3s socat
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2017-02-01 21:44:26	GarethTheGreat	https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/5rduj6/libopencraft_a_c_library_for_minecraft_work_in/dd79kv1/ < why on earth would anyone want to write their own minecraft server? /s
2017-02-01 21:44:57	Tachyon_	GarethTheGreat: downvote
2017-02-01 21:45:57	Tachyon_	GarethTheGreat: what can your servere do so far :D ?
2017-02-01 21:49:23	LiftLeft	can the client know everything about everything that's in a shulker box without opening it?
2017-02-01 22:14:08	pokechu22	LiftLeft: No, they won't know until they open it, if the box is on the ground (at least, if I recall correctly; I'm not 100% sure how it works with the chunk data packet).  When it's in their inventory then yes, they do know everything.
2017-02-01 22:15:55	LiftLeft	ok
2017-02-01 22:15:57	LiftLeft	thanks
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2017-02-02 00:24:18	-->	qws-user-1228 (~quassel@2605:a000:110c:a019:5ce6:15aa:f82f:320e) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-02-02 01:30:46	<--	makkron_ (~chatzilla@2a01cb00091cfa00451027e8f1f2d55f.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
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2017-02-02 02:52:56	LiftLeft	would this channel be a good place to ask for help with forge?
2017-02-02 02:54:08	pokechu22	Depends on what you're doing with forge.  Most of us don't use the forge API, though.
2017-02-02 03:05:01	-->	barneygale (~barneygal@90.194.209.233) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-02-02 03:19:28	ishitatsuyuki	Most of us are familiar with the protocol it self, and half of the people doesn't use Java.
2017-02-02 03:48:03	-->	Valdiralita (~Valdirali@ipbcc10d66.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-02-02 04:17:24	-->	Protryon1 (~javaproph@2601:647:ca03:600:16b9:8d47:200c:9a3a) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 04:35:15	-->	coderbot (~coderbot@99-7-126-128.lightspeed.simica.sbcglobal.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 04:37:28	coderbot	Turns out the wiki.vg documentation on the Particle packet doesn't mention that the "fallingdust" particle also has data
2017-02-02 04:38:02	coderbot	I found that out when writing a program to loop through every particle and try to spawn it with my protocol implementation
2017-02-02 04:39:21	pokechu22	The particle data is fairly spare unfortunately
2017-02-02 04:39:50	coderbot	I'm doing lots of experimenting with particles
2017-02-02 04:39:59	coderbot	A lot of them just flat out don't spawn for some reason
2017-02-02 04:41:02	pokechu22	Some of them (I think 'take' is the most notable example) aren't actually real particles but instead used for other animations
2017-02-02 04:41:55	coderbot	interesting
2017-02-02 05:14:58	coderbot	turns out you can't see a lot of particles on the "Minimal" particle setting
2017-02-02 05:15:01	coderbot	that explains a lot
2017-02-02 05:18:46	pokechu22	That'd do it
2017-02-02 05:56:17	-->	TheNet (~TheNet@pool-108-30-113-194.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-02-02 06:15:50	LiftLeft	gr8, banned from the forge irc for making a hacked client
2017-02-02 06:21:25	coderbot	why would you make a hacked client with forge
2017-02-02 06:27:20	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-02-02 06:43:01	LiftLeft	coderbot: well, The docs suck, plus I'm banned from their irc. You do make a good point. I was going to use forge because there's this mod I want to use and If I released it would be easier for other people to modify.
2017-02-02 06:45:32	<--	kamcio96 (~kamcio96@host-81-190-229-209.dynamic.mm.pl) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
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2017-02-02 06:46:36	LiftLeft	oh he left
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2017-02-02 07:25:35	LiftLeft	does anyone know how I can get when the user says something in forge on the client side?
2017-02-02 07:26:26	-->	Na (~Na@unaffiliated/na) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 08:00:35	<--	coolsa (~coolsa@unaffiliated/coolsa) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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2017-02-02 08:56:59	-->	Gjum (~Gjum@37.120.103.3) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 09:05:27	-->	zhuyifei1999_ (uid97661@wikimedia/zhuyifei1999) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 09:07:42	-->	UUID00 (~UUID00@BSN-142-133-132.dynamic.siol.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 09:31:14	rom1504	there's a specific way to chat in forge ?
2017-02-02 10:04:38	-->	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 10:05:38	Tachyon_	anyone using linux can try to connect to my server to check something (in 20 mins) ?
2017-02-02 10:17:06	LiftLeft	what?
2017-02-02 10:17:30	Tachyon_	LiftLeft: I am trying to find a bug which happens on windows, but not on linux
2017-02-02 10:17:44	Tachyon_	so I'd like to have someone using a mc client on linux to connect on my server on windows
2017-02-02 10:19:43	<--	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a quitté (Quit: Tachyon_)
2017-02-02 10:20:28	LiftLeft	Tachyon_: use a vm
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2017-02-02 10:41:59	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004D2B28FF00B11A1DB4BE112477.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Quit: "I suspect that in general big mistakes cause defeat much more often than excellent moves cause victory." -Dominic Cummings)
2017-02-02 11:19:27	<--	LiftLeft (~loser@67.205.149.187) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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2017-02-02 14:55:55	GarethTheGreat	my C++ server now spawns a client into the game
2017-02-02 14:58:56	GarethTheGreat	now comes the fun part: implementing the chunk data again, but this time in native C++
2017-02-02 15:00:08	ishitatsuyuki	That's quite easy I think
2017-02-02 15:01:24	GarethTheGreat	i'll probably rip some code from cuberite to do it
2017-02-02 15:01:50	GarethTheGreat	it's always a good feeling to see stuff working though: going from the server list ping to actually joining the game and doing so entirely with my own code
2017-02-02 15:02:16	-->	protryon (~protryon@c-50-131-132-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 15:17:03	-->	coolsa (~coolsa@unaffiliated/coolsa) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 16:09:59	<--	samschaap (~samschaap@5469BF1F.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2017-02-02 16:16:01	-->	samschaap (~samschaap@5469BF1F.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 16:44:45	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@p2003004D2B28FF00CD34E6FDEDD3684A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 18:05:37	-->	LiftLeft (~loser@67.205.149.187) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 18:25:42	-->	mrarm_ (~mrarm@unaffiliated/mrarm) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 18:26:43	--	MrARM est maintenant connu sous le nom Guest70035
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2017-02-02 18:52:16	--	mrarm_ est maintenant connu sous le nom MrARM
2017-02-02 19:09:12	-->	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a rejoint #mcdevs
2017-02-02 19:58:19	-->	RoboMWM_ (~RoboMWM@tf.us.to) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2017-02-02 20:25:42	Tachyon_	12 191 229 112 43 8 245 12 222 64 19 113 27 14 205 66 208 63 241 181 229 232 191 185 32 0
2017-02-02 20:25:58	Tachyon_	this is what packet I'm getting from client as player position(without size)
2017-02-02 20:33:27	<--	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a quitté (Quit: Tachyon_)
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2017-02-02 21:15:53	LiftLeft	is there a way to listen for outgoing packets using mc.getConnection()?
2017-02-02 21:25:18	rom1504	what langage is that
2017-02-02 21:26:16	<--	Tachyon_ (~Thunderbi@95.76.184.120) a quitté (Quit: Tachyon_)
2017-02-02 21:26:23	LiftLeft	java
2017-02-02 21:26:30	rom1504	what library is that
2017-02-02 21:26:35	LiftLeft	I'm using forge.
2017-02-02 21:26:53	LiftLeft	I'm pretty sure it's the same mcp
2017-02-02 21:26:59	LiftLeft	*I'm pretty sure it's the same in mcp
2017-02-02 21:27:16	rom1504	ok, I don't know if anybody uses that here, maybe
2017-02-02 21:30:20	LiftLeft	ok
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2017-02-03 00:12:38	pokechu22	LiftLeft: Not really, at least not in a clean way.  You'd be able to do it with a base edit probably (use MCP), but not forge.  However, do check out http://wiki.vg/Debugging
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2017-02-03 02:48:24	pokechu22	If anyone's interested, I've got a draft of the revised chunk format page here: http://wiki.vg/User:Pokechu22/Chunk_Format (it's not quite done, though)
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2017-02-03 04:38:26	ishitatsuyuki	pokechu22: what's new with that?
2017-02-03 04:39:06	chibill	I like it pokechu22 might try decoding chunk data again.
2017-02-03 05:14:38	pokechu22	ishitatsuyuki: It's basically the original page, but with some new samples and a few attempts at clarification.  This should be a diff, more or less: http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=User:Pokechu22/Chunk_Format&curid=1154&diff=8406&oldid=8389
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2017-02-03 05:17:17	pokechu22	Eventually I'll also try to add more stuff about the packet; how the packet is used for mutli-block changes in vanilla; stuff like that.  (And, more examples and explanations, of course)
2017-02-03 05:17:59	pokechu22	The one other thing it probably needs is simple sample data to check an implementation against.
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2017-02-03 08:44:43	+Grum	pokechu22: 4,5,6,7,8 has a pallette, anything above has not
2017-02-03 08:46:42	+Grum	pokechu22: Servers do not need to implement the palette initially (instead always using 13 bits per block), although it is an important optimization later on. <-- you are literally inflating the memory on the client since it never tries to 'scale down'
2017-02-03 08:49:54	+Grum	pokechu22: and a heads up for the next iteration, when this code reaches releasability, the ids are going to not have the metadata 4 bits 'padding' any longer
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