2016-06-04 21:59:18	yawkat	45? Are you mixing degrees and radians? 
2016-06-04 21:59:54	pokechu22	Yes unfortunately; java's math.cos takes radians but player angles are in degrees; it's ugly :/
2016-06-04 22:02:17	yawkat	The usual solution is to just input it into wolframalpha 
2016-06-04 22:02:35	yawkat	But it doesn't look too bad to do manually 
2016-06-04 22:03:31	yawkat	Though it sounds unlikely that such a tiny function is a bottleneck... Have you profiled 
2016-06-04 22:05:04	pokechu22	It's not so much a performance issue as the fact that I don't have a good way to acurately get sub-tick positions (linear interpolation works but it doesn't look quite right)
2016-06-04 22:06:17	pokechu22	this.yaw += (1 + .7 * Math.cos((this.yaw + 45) / 45.0 * Math.PI))), each frame, causes really fast turning on high framerates.
2016-06-04 22:07:26	pokechu22	So I thought that if I treat "1 + .7 * Math.cos((this.yaw + 45) / 45.0 * Math.PI))" as a rate, then I can integrate it to get more acurate positions and call it based off of the itck.
2016-06-04 22:07:27	pokechu22	*tick
2016-06-04 22:07:29	yawkat	Ah 
2016-06-04 22:07:34	yawkat	Well then. 
2016-06-04 22:08:30	Gjum	isn't it `yaw + (1+...)`, because you do yaw += ... ?
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2016-06-04 22:09:42	pokechu22	No, since yaw doesn't get added to itself (that part there is the rate).
2016-06-04 22:09:48	pokechu22	At least, I don't think so...
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2016-06-04 22:12:13	pokechu22	The thing that's hard is that yaw isn't a constant; it's the variable that's getting changed each time...  What I want to do is somehow get a function, yaw(t), that wouldn't depend on previous yaw values.
2016-06-04 22:17:30	pokechu22	To be clear, I'm currently running it each tick and linearly going between the current tick and previous tick's values, but I think I could get more accuracy theoretically.  I'll probably just not worry about it and stick with the linear one, but it's something that I've wondered about.
2016-06-04 22:18:37	Gjum	why don't you simly try it out then? https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+(1+%2B+.7+*+cos((x+%2B+45)+%2F+45.0+*+%CF%80))
2016-06-04 22:18:51	redstonehelper	have you tried quadratic or cubic interpolation?
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2016-06-04 22:31:51	pokechu22	Gjum: ... hm, that actually works OK for what I want (though there's a bit of stutter).  I wouldn't have though that would work since I was always integrating with respect to "t" instead of "x" (since the variable I wanted was t, and the value was x), but it seems to work fine like that...  hm.
2016-06-04 22:32:19	pokechu22	I _thought_ I knew what I was doing but as I try to understand further it seems like I don't :/  Doesn't help that I wasn't the person who originally wrote that function.
2016-06-04 22:32:38	pokechu22	redstonehelper: I haven't actually, that's a good idea.
2016-06-04 22:32:39	Gjum	well dt is -1 in your case, while dy is 1 + .7*...
2016-06-04 22:32:50	Gjum	ühh dt=1
2016-06-04 22:42:25	pokechu22	... I see what I was doing before and why I couldn't do it neither by hand nor wolframalpha: http://i.imgur.com/6S5lODa.png
2016-06-04 22:42:50	pokechu22	That's a lot harder to do, but it looks like the simpler one works.
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2016-06-04 23:27:57	hansihe	so what you are trying to do is interpolate linearly between two arbitrary rotations?
2016-06-04 23:32:06	hansihe	pokechu22: 
2016-06-04 23:32:33	pokechu22	The rotation on the current tick and the rotation on the previous one, kinda.
2016-06-04 23:32:36	pokechu22	I'm working on a demo
2016-06-04 23:35:00	hansihe	Sorry, I don't quite understand
2016-06-04 23:35:34	hansihe	Moving the camera at a fixed angular velocity towards a rotation?
2016-06-04 23:38:19	pokechu22	A varying velocity - the effect is that it slows down at each cardinal direction.
2016-06-04 23:40:00	Gjum	I'm wondering where the "stutter" comes from, the plotted graph looked fine for what you want to do
2016-06-04 23:41:18	Matsv	Is there some kind of tool like Burger for Minecraft Pocket Edition?
2016-06-04 23:42:00	Gjum	rom1504: ^
2016-06-04 23:43:02	yawkat	I think intyre has one, and I do
2016-06-04 23:43:15	yawkat	But I don't know of any public one 
2016-06-04 23:43:25	yawkat	Ask in #mcpedev
2016-06-04 23:43:38	yawkat	*devs
2016-06-04 23:45:23	Matsv	Thanks
2016-06-04 23:45:31	hansihe	> this.yaw += (1 + .7 * Math.cos((this.yaw + 45) / 45.0 * Math.PI))), each frame, causes really fast turning on high framerates.
2016-06-04 23:45:40	hansihe	If that's your main problem, that's really easy to fix
2016-06-04 23:49:46	pokechu22	Well, that's the old method I was using, but it kinda is the issue that I want to solve in a clean way.
2016-06-04 23:49:59	hansihe	For what you are doing that sounds like a clean way
2016-06-04 23:50:59	hansihe	You just need to decide on a timeslice you want it to operate on, say 30fps, that makes 33ms per frame
2016-06-04 23:51:40	hansihe	You then divide the result by 33 and multiply it by the time since the last frame in milliseconds
2016-06-04 23:52:10	Gjum	isn't that linear?
2016-06-04 23:52:12	hansihe	Then you will get a value you can add that's framerate independent
2016-06-04 23:52:42	pokechu22	That's basically what I'm doing right now.  Except that I'm using the built-in tick method (which is still stable).  Issue there is that it's linear, which is _slightly_ suboptimal.
2016-06-04 23:53:01	pokechu22	(In appearence, not in performance)
2016-06-04 23:53:26	hansihe	Well yeah, if that's not precise enough to work, you could do an integral
2016-06-04 23:57:14	hansihe	actually, I don't think it's that easy
2016-06-04 23:58:12	hansihe	Since you are depending on the current value for your rate of change, that would make an differential equation?
2016-06-05 00:00:22	hansihe	Unless your framerate is really really low, like in the single digits, I don't see how the error from doing it the naive way could make much of a difference
2016-06-05 00:06:06	pokechu22	It isn't really too important, yea, but I still want to figure it out.
2016-06-05 00:12:49	pokechu22	I'm  going to be AFK for an hour or so, sorry
2016-06-05 00:13:28	hansihe	http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x%27+%3D+1%2B0.7*cos((x%2Bpi%2F4)%2Fpi%2F4)
2016-06-05 00:14:14	hansihe	Unless I'm way off target here, the differential equation solution should be the one to use
2016-06-05 00:17:51	hansihe	then again, maybe not
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2016-06-05 02:09:54	pokechu22	hansihe: Yea, that's the equation I got too, but I didn't know how to solve it.  And the differential equation solution wolframalpha gives doesn't seem to be correct...
2016-06-05 02:18:24	+XorBoole	have you considered integration:
2016-06-05 02:18:50	+XorBoole	oh, wait, that's x'
2016-06-05 02:18:52	+XorBoole	ew
2016-06-05 02:19:01	+XorBoole	I hate difeqs
2016-06-05 02:19:13	pokechu22	Yea...  it's pretty ugly.
2016-06-05 02:19:52	+XorBoole	I've always hated the x' notation
2016-06-05 02:20:11	+XorBoole	it's not obvious that the independent variable is some t
2016-06-05 02:20:33	+XorBoole	at least use dx/dt and x(t)
2016-06-05 02:20:51	+XorBoole	but tbh I've seen worse notation
2016-06-05 02:21:10	+XorBoole	p_f x = (G f) x from a problem I'm working on
2016-06-05 02:21:11	pokechu22	x'(t) is better than x' in general.
2016-06-05 02:21:27	+XorBoole	or better yet, lim_{x -> iy} G_y
2016-06-05 02:21:35	+XorBoole	it took me forever to figure out that indexing
2016-06-05 02:21:50	+XorBoole	(x -> iy is a function signature, not "x goes to iy")
2016-06-05 02:22:03	+XorBoole	(also i is a functor)
2016-06-05 02:23:33	rom1504	"And the differential equation solution wolframalpha gives doesn't seem to be correct..." really ?
2016-06-05 02:24:13	pokechu22	It's not working with the code I have; I might be using it wrong though.  Let's see if I can get an animation...
2016-06-05 02:29:00	Gjum	which one is not correct? the x' one?
2016-06-05 02:30:35	pokechu22	The x' one and also the one from integrating with respect to dx
2016-06-05 02:35:12	Gjum	pokechu22: how many ticks does a full revolution take?
2016-06-05 02:37:15	pokechu22	About 505.  10 seconds or so.
2016-06-05 02:37:38	pokechu22	... not 10 seconds.  hm.
2016-06-05 02:38:12	pokechu22	Ignore that 10 seconds part.  But about 505 (that's when it first looped).
2016-06-05 02:42:06	pokechu22	Took forever to upload but here's a comparison.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mONBOIPpTs
2016-06-05 02:44:38	hansihe	right, so the wolframalpha one works for a single quadrant it seems
2016-06-05 02:45:36	hansihe	the equation should be prettier if you remove the offset stuff
2016-06-05 02:45:51	hansihe	then just do the quadrant logic manually?
2016-06-05 02:46:40	Gjum	nah, the speed is completely off for WA
2016-06-05 02:47:17	hansihe	oh, right
2016-06-05 02:47:36	hansihe	i just looked at the acceleration and the smoothness of it
2016-06-05 02:47:47	pokechu22	It seems like it's offset by an eighth of a rotation, maybe...
2016-06-05 02:48:36	Gjum	no, it even unexpectedly changes speeds when you account for that
2016-06-05 02:48:38	pokechu22	... nope, it doesn't even cover a full 90 degrees :/
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2016-06-05 02:57:26	+Amaranth	http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/168779/extrapolating-quaternion-rotation.html might be useful
2016-06-05 03:00:44	hansihe	i don't think slerp helps much in this case, it seems he wants the angular velocity to speed up at the cardinal directions according to some formula
2016-06-05 03:00:57	hansihe	slow down at the cardinal directions rather
2016-06-05 03:05:13	Gjum	pokechu22: you might try t*360/505 - 10*(sin(t*8*pi/505))
2016-06-05 03:05:33	Gjum	should be very similar to what you want to achieve
2016-06-05 03:07:04	+Amaranth	Wait why do you want to slow down at cardinals?
2016-06-05 03:07:16	Gjum	maybe there's some text you want to read
2016-06-05 03:07:34	Gjum	and the corners are boring, so you don't want to see them all the time ^^
2016-06-05 03:08:49	pokechu22	It's a visual effect that just looks nice more or less, but slowing down at the cardinals means that you get a view of all directions but don't stare too long.
2016-06-05 03:10:30	hansihe	in that case I would just use an approximation like the one Gjum posted, that seems like a much better idea than dicking around with integrals and difeqs
2016-06-05 03:10:50	hansihe	you probably end up with something more efficient as well
2016-06-05 03:10:55	Gjum	^
2016-06-05 03:11:52	pokechu22	Yea, probably that would be a good idea :P
2016-06-05 03:13:18	Gjum	you can even figure out what the number instead of 10 should be
2016-06-05 03:13:30	Gjum	so it's the exact same speed at the cardinals as in your original
2016-06-05 03:13:56	Gjum	looks like it's 8.29595~ 
2016-06-05 03:15:38	pokechu22	Thanks.  That bit of code, depsite it's overall uninportance, has been gnawing at me for a while :P
2016-06-05 03:18:35	pokechu22	360/505 ≈ .7 - that's probably where 505 came from.
2016-06-05 03:22:06	Gjum	well .7 is also the amplitude of the co/sine
2016-06-05 03:24:17	Gjum	.7*505 = 353.5 which is way less than 360, so no
2016-06-05 03:25:43	pokechu22	Hm, true.
2016-06-05 03:26:05	Gjum	I would guess it's just to make the cardinals' speed 0.3
2016-06-05 03:26:42	Gjum	and it just happens to take 505 steps
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2016-06-05 13:40:19	Meeeh	Grum, minecraft already don't use that meta-id (like 120:540 - that 540 here) for potions and some other stuff, what about durability? is there any chance it will be moved to NBT of item? like "durability: 1200, uses: 200" (Yey, possibility to create item with higher/lower durability). That durability as part of item type is really annoying as you can't just create simple list of all items/blocks without special handle for that special items.
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2016-06-05 15:13:19	+Grum	the way to fix it is to get rid of the 'special items' through data
2016-06-05 15:13:23	+Grum	just name the items
2016-06-05 15:13:26	+Grum	if you want them to be seperate, name them
2016-06-05 15:14:18	+Grum	if it is in nbt you also have no idea what the items are
2016-06-05 15:22:19	Meeeh	Grum, only that durability-items use id as something different. And I don't see any items that use NBT to create other items, it's always id + data in NBT, like potions. Only that durability use different logic ;/ And with name... you need do it manually, there is no way to just generate list of all items/blocks without special handle, this same for creating code for some weird mods/plugins or own server.
2016-06-05 15:26:05	+Grum	I know, I hate it, I can fix it, I am not able to
2016-06-05 15:26:17	+SinZ	backwards compatibility reasons?
2016-06-05 15:26:41	+Grum	why would we need to be backwards compatible?
2016-06-05 15:27:35	+SinZ	1.9 world run on 1.10, needs to still have potions with the correct types, right?
2016-06-05 15:27:36	Meeeh	Grum, why you are not able to do it? ;/
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2016-06-05 15:28:13	+Grum	because someone else is telling me not to
2016-06-05 15:30:24	Meeeh	nah, why most sane person in Mojang can't un-cancer the code. Anyway, good to hear that you think like me about that items id.
2016-06-05 15:33:39	+Grum	It was planned for 1.9
2016-06-05 15:33:43	+Grum	planned for 1.10
2016-06-05 15:33:50	+Grum	both denied
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2016-06-05 15:49:51	redstonehelper	praise microsoft?
2016-06-05 15:59:04	+Grum	microsoft has no say on the java version
2016-06-05 15:59:17	redstonehelper	\o/
2016-06-05 16:12:05	Meeeh	redstonehelper, nah, so much time and people still think that microsoft control all mojang actions and blame them for all the stuff
2016-06-05 16:12:26	+Grum	Meeeh: the problem is that no-one cares that this gets done
2016-06-05 16:12:30	+Grum	so make your voice heard
2016-06-05 16:13:15	+Grum	it would be a one time super painful upgradepath and then sanity after
2016-06-05 16:15:37	MiniDigger	where do we need to made our voices heard? there are many ppl who would appreciate this system to be replaced
2016-06-05 16:16:11	Meeeh	yeach, all that stuff should be done in 1.9 where many other stuff was broken, everyone was prepared for bigger problems and changes. Nah, maybe one day they will change this :< Who is that bad guy? 
2016-06-05 16:16:11	Meeeh	I thought only dinner bone can be above you o.O
2016-06-05 16:16:39	Meeeh	and he don't want that sane changes? ;/
2016-06-05 16:17:03	redstonehelper	jeb is lead dev
2016-06-05 16:17:27	redstonehelper	otherwise, I guess above is CEO or CFO or something
2016-06-05 16:18:02	Meeeh	ah, yeach, jeb... I sometimes forget about him xD
2016-06-05 16:18:19	Meeeh	yeach, that might be him :< 
2016-06-05 16:48:01	Meeeh	so many people don't care about code... and huge amount of people are trying to make sane APIs using that insane code for years, at least it is better than year+ ago, especially in notch age :D At least I can thanks for other changes that made code more sane, maybe expect for that eula stuff, but for now I don't see any normal server blocked, only that really fu... up. :D
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2016-06-05 21:36:47	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/jk3aean
2016-06-05 21:45:30	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 2 commits to master [+2/-0/±4] https://git.io/voJCP
2016-06-05 21:45:32	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 63492ba - add 1.10-pre1
2016-06-05 21:45:33	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 6955927 - add 1.10-pre1 changes (compared to 16w20a protocol)
2016-06-05 21:46:29	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/voJCM
2016-06-05 21:46:30	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 fad13ae - Release 2.1.0
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2016-06-06 01:17:20	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/h9ojlfq
2016-06-06 01:28:55	pokechu22	Can someone verify for me - it seems like object ID 60 is now tipped arrow (since 1.9) and object id 92 is unassigned; is this correct?
2016-06-06 01:43:18	pokechu22	... um... it looks like normal arrows also use EntityTippedArrow.  Well, that's a wierd way to do it.  But 92 definitely is unassigned.
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2016-06-06 05:23:01	javaprophet	Has anyone seen this issue yet? https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-103114
2016-06-06 05:25:44	pokechu22	... that should be a private issue.
2016-06-06 05:26:18	pokechu22	But that _sounds_ bad.
2016-06-06 05:28:40	+ammar2	eh, it doesn't have any technical details, no reason for it to not be public
2016-06-06 05:31:36	pokechu22	Unrelated, but I have here a graph of unload chunk packets received by someone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E09QURhai4.  Does that seem broken?
2016-06-06 05:33:35	+ammar2	what server?
2016-06-06 05:34:35	pokechu22	I don't have the full details, but I do know that it's running bungeecord and spigot (I don't have the version).
2016-06-06 05:35:29	pokechu22	Second semiunrelated question: Has anyone ever seen empty chunks that aren't empty but instead all have the same contents? 
2016-06-06 05:36:35	kahrl	I haven't seen empty chunks that aren't empty :P
2016-06-06 05:38:54	pokechu22	Well... time for me to play the game where I search through my 759 hours of log video (no joke...) for the 10 minutes where I saw it happen T_T
2016-06-06 05:39:37	pokechu22	I did find https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-86937, but that was in a snapshot and this happened in a 1.8 release (on a spigot server).  Over a year ago, though.
2016-06-06 05:48:33	Meeeh	javaprophet, seems like someone have server in offline mode?
2016-06-06 05:51:50	javaprophet	It was not in offline mode.
2016-06-06 05:52:04	Meeeh	this is your issue?
2016-06-06 05:52:17	javaprophet	I know the owner of it.
2016-06-06 05:52:34	Meeeh	this happen on spigot too?
2016-06-06 05:53:01	javaprophet	His particular server was PaperSpigot I think, but he has heard of the same issue elsewhere.
2016-06-06 05:53:19	Meeeh	this don't sounds like something possible with normal config o.O
2016-06-06 05:53:47	javaprophet	I'm going to ask him to run in debug mode next time he starts it.
2016-06-06 05:54:01	javaprophet	But we have a feeling it's an exploit in the Mojang servers.
2016-06-06 05:54:37	Meeeh	maybe it's exploit on his server
2016-06-06 05:54:44	Meeeh	like dns/hosts changed 
2016-06-06 05:55:08	+ammar2	yeah something that powerful usually gets spread like fire
2016-06-06 05:55:10	javaprophet	It's been observed on several different, isolated servers.
2016-06-06 05:55:46	Meeeh	I would still sniff all packets from system level and check IP
2016-06-06 05:56:22	javaprophet	I'll ask my friend for access to his VPS to do that I suppose.
2016-06-06 05:56:31	javaprophet	I don't know if his server is still under attack though.
2016-06-06 05:56:45	Meeeh	exploit allowing to auth as any account sounds really... just unreal :D
2016-06-06 05:57:13	javaprophet	IKR! Based on what I've seen, these hackers have been keeping it under wraps.
2016-06-06 05:57:35	javaprophet	https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-103114
2016-06-06 05:57:42	javaprophet	Someone else commented that they had it too.
2016-06-06 05:59:13	Meeeh	nah, someone should create small simple plugin for spigot that will save all minecraft packets, just to see if he sends anything weird
2016-06-06 06:00:05	Meeeh	if they hacked servers at mojang side I will expect something bigger than few smallers (?) servers going down
2016-06-06 06:00:25	javaprophet	Same, perhaps it's limited by something, or their trying to keep it on the downlow.
2016-06-06 06:02:07	Meeeh	and auth code on server is just really simple, and any exception will cancel it
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2016-06-06 06:03:31	Xerxes1	Somebody logged into my server with my account
2016-06-06 06:03:51	Xerxes1	even after I changed my password they were still able to log in
2016-06-06 06:04:20	Xerxes1	its in online mode
2016-06-06 06:04:22	Xerxes1	whats going on?!
2016-06-06 06:04:50	javaprophet	It's Isopropyl!
2016-06-06 06:04:58	javaprophet	Did someone login before as the user Isopropyl?
2016-06-06 06:05:00	Xerxes1	yep
2016-06-06 06:05:05	javaprophet	!!!
2016-06-06 06:05:07	Meeeh	it is 1st of April yet? :D
2016-06-06 06:05:53	Xerxes1	Im serious Meeeh
2016-06-06 06:08:23	Meeeh	nah, I need to go in next ~40min, so I don't have time now ;/ Anyone can create plugin that will use plib to save/log all packets with whole data? xD
2016-06-06 06:08:52	pokechu22	I did mention http://wiki.vg/Debugging, but that doesn't log the payloads, only the names.
2016-06-06 06:08:57	pokechu22	You _could_ use wireshark.
2016-06-06 06:09:14	javaprophet	It's on my friends VPS, and I don't think it's under attack anymore.
2016-06-06 06:09:42	Meeeh	using plugin is a bit easier, but pokechu22 I already wrote about sniffing all stuff to see what is going on with auth request too
2016-06-06 06:10:42	pokechu22	Full debug logs (at least on the client) do log auth stuff, IIRC including all requests.
2016-06-06 06:11:46	Meeeh	can you both list plugins too? 
2016-06-06 06:11:49	pokechu22	Yep, things like "Opening connection to https://sessionserver.mojang.com/session/minecraft/join", "Writing POST data to https://sessionserver.mojang.com/session/minecraft/join: {"accessToken":"<censored>","selectedProfile":"<censored>","serverId":"<censored>"}".
2016-06-06 06:12:04	Meeeh	and ping sessionserver.mojang.com
2016-06-06 06:12:07	pokechu22	What I'm refering to is using the second config on the debuging article
2016-06-06 06:12:21	Meeeh	serverId is always empty if nothing was changed o.O
2016-06-06 06:12:58	Meeeh	javaprophet, Xerxes1 ping sessionserver.mojang.com on vps, just for sure
2016-06-06 06:13:03	Meeeh	and write what it returns 
2016-06-06 06:13:17	javaprophet	216.137.36.93
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2016-06-06 06:13:38	Meeeh	wat
2016-06-06 06:13:51	javaprophet	That's the IP from a dig, which is what you want yea?
2016-06-06 06:15:38	pokechu22	Erm... when I do ping sessionserver.mojang.com, I get 52.84.20.231.
2016-06-06 06:15:55	Meeeh	I get that too
2016-06-06 06:15:59	javaprophet	I get 66.11.122.190 on another server too.
2016-06-06 06:16:06	javaprophet	It's geographically based I think.
2016-06-06 06:16:17	javaprophet	Check the IP whois.
2016-06-06 06:16:32	Meeeh	yeach, this is why I'm not repling yet, just trying to find some more data
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2016-06-06 06:16:40	Xerxes1	I get 66.11.122.190
2016-06-06 06:16:41	Meeeh	as they for sure have more than one ip
2016-06-06 06:18:51	+ammar2	Xerxes1: output of /plugins please
2016-06-06 06:19:02	Xerxes1	no plugins installed
2016-06-06 06:19:05	Xerxes1	semi-vanilla server
2016-06-06 06:19:06	Xerxes1	just spigot
2016-06-06 06:19:17	+ammar2	hmm
2016-06-06 06:19:32	+ammar2	did you enable debugging like pokechu said
2016-06-06 06:19:38	Xerxes1	no
2016-06-06 06:19:54	+ammar2	please do, it'll be really helpful if they attack again
2016-06-06 06:28:00	Xerxes1	okay
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2016-06-06 14:15:39	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/voU8f
2016-06-06 14:15:41	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 fad13ae - Release 2.1.0
2016-06-06 14:18:54	rom1504	hmm that wasn't pushed ? weird
2016-06-06 14:18:57	ajvpot	what's the license on https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data
2016-06-06 14:20:23	rom1504	I'm not sure https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/issues/111
2016-06-06 14:20:28	rom1504	but yeah we should decide
2016-06-06 14:20:39	rom1504	I want to say MIT but idk
2016-06-06 14:27:23	ajvpot	ooh so what's this exploit thing I hear about
2016-06-06 14:27:27	ajvpot	https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-103114
2016-06-06 14:27:55	ajvpot	wouldn't be the first time mojang has royally fucked up
2016-06-06 14:27:55	ajvpot	https://gist.github.com/ajvpot/3115176
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2016-06-06 14:48:21	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/voURj
2016-06-06 14:48:23	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 5192e62 - Merge pull request #141 from PrismarineJS/license Add license, close #111
2016-06-06 14:48:24	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 deleted branch license
2016-06-06 14:48:49	rom1504	here, we have a license now, MIT
2016-06-06 14:52:07	DarkFox	Hello world. Since 1.8, comparators with 1.5 tick pulses have been broken. This prevents compact, and fast 1-tick comparasions, and dense analog storage. This can be seen easily with a 1.5 pulse attached to comparators. The expected behaviour can be seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zE_XZLTDBw and in better detail for a simplier system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45yfWtuRqgY
2016-06-06 15:05:52	DarkFox	Hello world. Since 1.8, comparators with 1.5 tick pulses have been broken. This prevents compact, and fast 1-tick comparasions, and dense analog storage. This can be seen easily with a 1.5 pulse attached to comparators. The expected behaviour can be seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zE_XZLTDBw and in better detail for a simplier system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45yfWtuRqgY
2016-06-06 15:06:03	DarkFox	(Sorry if reposted.. I disconnected from my IRC bouncer)
2016-06-06 15:06:39	ajvpot	DarkFox, It would probably be best to open a bug on the Mojang JIRA for that
2016-06-06 15:07:59	DarkFox	ajvpot: I intend to although do not yet have an account and will not register tonight. Tomorrow; maybe.
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2016-06-06 15:37:57	Meeeh	About exploits, maybe someone leave open rcon
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2016-06-06 17:30:18	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by Gurun to Pocket Edition Protocol Documentation -> http://tinyurl.com/jsrwtvt
2016-06-06 17:39:47	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 2 commits to master [+2/-0/±0] https://git.io/voUNn
2016-06-06 17:39:48	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 544296d - import mcpe protocol from pocket-minecraft-protocol
2016-06-06 17:39:50	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 259b5e6 - Merge pull request #140 from PrismarineJS/mcpe_protocol import mcpe protocol from pocket-minecraft-protocol
2016-06-06 17:39:51	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 deleted branch mcpe_protocol
2016-06-06 17:42:26	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/voUN5
2016-06-06 17:42:28	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 60467f1 - Release 2.2.0
2016-06-06 17:42:48	Not-b880	[minecraft-data] rom1504 tagged 60467f1 as 2.2.0 https://git.io/voUNN
2016-06-06 17:48:17	pokechu22	I managed to find a video of the glitchy empty chunks.  It's old, low-quality footage, but it does show off the glitch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3S8d1L5Kjk
2016-06-06 17:48:45	pokechu22	Note that (at the end), I fall slowly (as if I was in an unloaded area), but I also land on the ground and can hit those blocks.
2016-06-06 17:48:51	pokechu22	Anyone ever seen something like that?
2016-06-06 17:52:15	redstonehelper	pokechu22: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-86947
2016-06-06 17:52:20	redstonehelper	this is similar
2016-06-06 17:53:48	Not-b880	[mineflayer] rom1504 deleted branch greenkeeper-minecraft-data-2.4.0
2016-06-06 17:53:55	Not-b880	[flying-squid] rom1504 deleted branch greenkeeper-minecraft-data-2.4.0
2016-06-06 18:00:09	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by Momothereal to Server List -> http://tinyurl.com/gnj4mfx
2016-06-06 18:00:12	pokechu22	That's a different one though I did also expereince that one once or twice.  In this case the chunks were solid...
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2016-06-06 19:02:00	+XorBoole	redstonehelper do you have all the jira ticket numbers memorized or something?
2016-06-06 19:02:11	+XorBoole	I'd assume not but I refuse to believe it because the alternative is cooler
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2016-06-06 19:43:36	redstonehelper	XorBoole: I have some important ones memorized, I have the frequent ones for the current dev cycle memorized and I am very good with titles
2016-06-06 19:44:04	+XorBoole	impressive. I can't even remember phone numbers
2016-06-06 19:44:39	redstonehelper	I can remember important people's numbers, but not my own
2016-06-06 19:44:43	redstonehelper	:(
2016-06-06 19:45:20	+XorBoole	I remember mine in spanish... which means I need to translate it in my head if anyone asks me for it
2016-06-06 19:45:40	redstonehelper	ay ay ay
2016-06-06 19:46:15	+XorBoole	fun fact: I think in the last language I was spoken to (choice of english or spanish)
2016-06-06 19:47:50	MiniDigger	that happens to me too, if I talked in english for to long I will reply in eglish if I get messaged in german...
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2016-06-06 20:12:59	ajvpot	https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-103114
2016-06-06 20:13:00	ajvpot	...
2016-06-06 20:13:12	ajvpot	>is your server in offline mode
2016-06-06 20:13:17	ajvpot	>no, but it's cracked
2016-06-06 20:13:18	ajvpot	...
2016-06-06 20:13:20	ajvpot	no words
2016-06-06 20:15:25	pokechu22	ಠ_ಠ
2016-06-06 20:15:56	+Thinkofname	ajvpot: I think he made a mistake looking at the full sentence, s/although/as if/
2016-06-06 20:16:10	ajvpot	i see
2016-06-06 20:16:11	pokechu22	I mean, they might have modified the jar to circumvent authentication rather than editing the config... but if they did, that's just silly of them.
2016-06-06 20:16:17	ajvpot	I had trouble understanding his comment as a whole
2016-06-06 20:16:39	ajvpot	I think he's implying that they are using some kind of password reuse attack and compromising admin accounts
2016-06-06 20:16:47	ajvpot	and not messing with the server
2016-06-06 20:18:39	pokechu22	Has that attack only happened on that one server?  Or has it happened to multiple servers?  There's multiple reports of it in there, but it seems like it might all be the same server.
2016-06-06 20:19:41	+Thinkofname	I haven't heard any reports anywhere else so far
2016-06-06 20:47:38	pokechu22	For the empty chunk issue, I did find https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-585 and https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-642... not sure if they apply here but it's a reference.
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2016-06-06 21:04:33	+XorBoole	well, on a somewhat related not, I have noticed wierd memory behavior on spigot 1.9.4, which makes me suspect leaking chunks... but given how heavy my modifications are I can't be sure if it's stock spigot
2016-06-06 21:04:39	+XorBoole	or if it's 1.9.4 itself
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2016-06-06 21:22:26	pokechu22	Found another reference to the empty chunk issue: https://github.com/cuberite/cuberite/issues/2405
2016-06-06 21:36:57	+Amaranth	XorBoole: Aikar_ says 1.9.x loads chunks like crazy
2016-06-06 21:37:14	+Amaranth	It wouldn't leak them though, it does a GC every autosave
2016-06-06 21:37:15	+XorBoole	hmm
2016-06-06 22:08:29	Aikar_	the thing that prevented random chunk loads pre 1.9 was removed as vanilla didnt even use it
2016-06-06 22:08:36	--	Aikar_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Aikar
2016-06-06 22:15:27	+Amaranth	It still exists client side because they do, see the link pokechu22 gave
2016-06-06 22:16:12	+Amaranth	They just split the client and server a bit since the server doesn't need it
2016-06-06 22:18:54	+XorBoole	unrelated, I feel dumb. Amaranth I thought you said "Aikar_" to avoid pinging him
2016-06-06 22:19:00	+XorBoole	I cannot into today
2016-06-06 22:19:24	Aikar	lol
2016-06-06 22:19:30	Aikar	dunno why i was _
2016-06-06 22:25:27	+XorBoole	ns I'd guess?
2016-06-06 22:25:35	+XorBoole	but ns usually does name- tho?
2016-06-06 22:41:24	x10A94	How is chunk data in packets ordered?
2016-06-06 22:42:11	+XorBoole	what do you mean, ordered?
2016-06-06 22:42:27	+XorBoole	I'm quite certain block data is in the same order as disk data
2016-06-06 22:43:24	+XorBoole	x10A94 chunk data has this format: http://wiki.vg/SMP_Map_Format
2016-06-06 22:45:40	x10A94	Thanks
2016-06-06 22:59:30	+ammar2	how would that avoid pinging him XorBoole 
2016-06-06 22:59:34	+ammar2	it still has Aikar in it lol
2016-06-06 22:59:43	+XorBoole	whoosh
2016-06-06 22:59:55	+XorBoole	you missed the point, I thought it would ping him when clearly it wouldn't
2016-06-06 23:00:05	+XorBoole	my brain isn't functioning correctly
2016-06-06 23:00:06	+ammar2	por queee
2016-06-06 23:00:16	+XorBoole	err thought it wouldn't, clearly it would
2016-06-06 23:00:33	+XorBoole	because I've been awake for 25 hours, that's why
2016-06-06 23:00:54	Aikar	go sleep n00b
2016-06-06 23:01:33	+XorBoole	no I need to make it to midnight so my sleep schedule goes back to normal
2016-06-06 23:01:50	+XorBoole	because that'll* totally* work
2016-06-06 23:01:53	Aikar	1 night shift doesnt 'go normal'
2016-06-06 23:02:01	Aikar	and youl lalso have backlog 
2016-06-06 23:02:48	+XorBoole	I've fixed worse
2016-06-06 23:03:30	Aikar	fix my nose pls kthx
2016-06-06 23:03:52	Aikar	well i guess that would be weird, fix the recovery process of fixing my nose
2016-06-06 23:03:59	Aikar	i just had sinus surgery
2016-06-06 23:04:45	+XorBoole	have you tried superglue?
2016-06-06 23:04:59	Aikar	um, im already clogged, why do i need that
2016-06-06 23:05:14	Aikar	.g nasal sprint removal
2016-06-06 23:05:16	+XorBoole	superglue can fix anything!
2016-06-06 23:05:19	Aikar	i dare you to watch it 
2016-06-06 23:05:26	Aikar	.b nasal sprint removal
2016-06-06 23:05:30	Aikar	no bot?
2016-06-06 23:05:37	+XorBoole	cafebabe isn't here, dear Aikar 
2016-06-06 23:06:08	+ammar2	have you tried wd-40
2016-06-06 23:06:23	+XorBoole	wd40 + superglue can fix anything
2016-06-06 23:06:32	+XorBoole	well, not simultaneuouslly
2016-06-06 23:06:43	+XorBoole	but applied depending on the results of the "should it move" algorithm
2016-06-06 23:11:38	+ammar2	super-wd40
2016-06-06 23:20:42	+XorBoole	super mario wd40
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2016-06-07 02:04:01	pokechu22	OK, I've looked at the empty chunk issue more.  It was fixed in 1.9 because they consolidated the methods used to get blocks in a chunk, and thus empty chunks (which previously overrode only one of them) now override the only significant one.
2016-06-07 02:04:29	pokechu22	It's still hypothetically an issue with map items, but empty chunks on the server seem like something less common.
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2016-06-07 12:24:01	starseed	Hi, does anybody know why sometimes logs are missing from the server logs?
2016-06-07 12:45:53	hansihe	starseed: what do you mean?
2016-06-07 12:52:44	starseed	I'm running a spigot server (with no plugins), and I've noticed that sometimes log files are simply missing. Sometimes for example there will be no logs of anything from midnight until 3AM or so
2016-06-07 12:53:06	starseed	(even though I or other people have definitely been playing at those times)
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2016-06-07 13:11:43	hansihe	starseed: This channel is mostly for ground up development related to minecraft, you might not get much help with that kind of stuff here. That sounds like a spigot issue, you could try in #spigot on the spigotmc irc, or the forums
2016-06-07 13:16:53	C4K3	starseed: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-100524 ?
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2016-06-07 17:57:01	nickparite	hey
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2016-06-07 19:45:43	morfin	hello
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2016-06-07 19:52:21	morfin	can anybody explain one thing - are general tasks like physics and others have depndencies in the server?
2016-06-07 19:53:11	hansihe	do you mean if they are performed by dependencies?
2016-06-07 19:53:13	hansihe	they are not
2016-06-07 19:54:11	morfin	phew that makes things easier)
2016-06-07 19:55:20	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by BartoszKonkol to Protocol version numbers -> http://tinyurl.com/zm7s44g
2016-06-07 19:55:41	hansihe	what are you trying to do?
2016-06-07 19:57:02	morfin	i am trying to fit that stuff in tasks
2016-06-07 19:57:35	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by BartoszKonkol to Protocol version numbers -> http://tinyurl.com/h9hx8gx
2016-06-07 19:57:52	hansihe	oh, you meant if physics depended on something else being done before it in a tick?
2016-06-07 19:58:17	rom1504	is there a defined order for stuff in a tick ?
2016-06-07 19:58:19	hansihe	not sure about that, but there are probably dependencies, yeah
2016-06-07 20:01:04	morfin	defined order?
2016-06-07 20:01:40	morfin	not sure 
2016-06-07 20:03:50	+ammar2	what hansihe said
2016-06-07 20:04:06	+ammar2	certain things depend on other things having been already processed before
2016-06-07 20:29:50	morfin	i am wondering why there is so many custom Minecraft servers/clients?
2016-06-07 20:30:52	_MylesC	why not :p?
2016-06-07 20:31:22	morfin	vanilla server is not that bad?
2016-06-07 20:31:22	rom1504	because there are lot of players, and it's fun
2016-06-07 20:31:49	morfin	or maybe it is, not sure - so many crap in it
2016-06-07 20:32:07	rom1504	also because the "we only sell the game" model is much friendlier to dev than games where they sell the server usage
2016-06-07 20:32:14	rom1504	I think
2016-06-07 20:32:33	rom1504	(MOBA, MMORPG)
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2016-06-08 01:14:56	BlackHole	LOL @ https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-103176
2016-06-08 01:16:04	pokechu22	"discovered while testing" is a way that issues can be linked?  That seems useful...
2016-06-08 01:18:43	redstonehelper	there's also "clones" and "blocks"
2016-06-08 01:18:52	redstonehelper	plus for all 3 the other way round
2016-06-08 01:23:23	+ammar2	blocks is really useful when using jira in a corporate environment
2016-06-08 01:23:27	+ammar2	we use it here at work all the time
2016-06-08 01:28:34	pokechu22	What's the difference between "clones" and "duplicates"?
2016-06-08 01:29:30	redstonehelper	probably depends on how it's used
2016-06-08 01:30:00	redstonehelper	duplicates are used for resolving, clones are sometimes used for regressions, better ticket descriptions or misclicks
2016-06-08 01:30:12	+ammar2	https://answers.atlassian.com/questions/11991996/what-is-the-difference-between-a-clone-and-a-duplicate
2016-06-08 01:30:23	+ammar2	some other opinions on the matter
2016-06-08 01:30:39	redstonehelper	that does make sense
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2016-06-08 02:03:19	+XorBoole	pokechu22 not gonna lie, I thought you were asking  what the difference was between an item clone and an item dupe
2016-06-08 02:03:32	+XorBoole	thinking is hard
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2016-06-08 02:35:41	Akaibu	so anyone know why this is happening?
2016-06-08 02:35:47	Akaibu	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/7T7YpIjK/
2016-06-08 02:36:24	Akaibu	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/iSF9iAhN/
2016-06-08 02:37:04	Akaibu	first one is the error sencond one is the script
2016-06-08 02:38:38	Akaibu	wait, i think it may have been pagination
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2016-06-08 03:51:33	Akaibu	ok, so i'm looks for an regex that will match not only https://www.example.com but www.example.com and example.com
2016-06-08 03:53:33	+ammar2	that's a tough one
2016-06-08 03:53:39	+ammar2	mostly because TLDs change around
2016-06-08 03:53:48	+ammar2	well at least they don't get removed, they just get added
2016-06-08 03:54:10	+ammar2	wonder how hexchat does it
2016-06-08 03:56:39	Akaibu	ammar2: well if you could do it, i got a small challenge for you to do with it involving the TLD, make it to where only the LD will match(so no example.fdkfhsdafhj) but try to "golf" the TLD's to make it as small as possible :)
2016-06-08 03:57:12	+ammar2	Akaibu: that's fairly simple I think
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2016-06-08 03:57:27	Akaibu	thats all of them i think
2016-06-08 03:57:29	+ammar2	oh you already have it
2016-06-08 03:57:29	Akaibu	:)
2016-06-08 03:57:31	+ammar2	perfect
2016-06-08 03:57:55	+ammar2	https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db
2016-06-08 03:58:07	+ammar2	a lot more apparently
2016-06-08 03:58:21	Akaibu	yea, don't do them all, like those weird x+ numbers one
2016-06-08 03:58:44	+ammar2	but anyway, now that you have all the valid inputs its a simple finite state machine optimization problem
2016-06-08 03:58:52	pokechu22	Don't be too greedy.it's always possible to get false possitives (like that might trigger) :P
2016-06-08 03:59:06	pokechu22	Or be prepared to deal with them
2016-06-08 03:59:24	Akaibu	lol, my irc client validated greedy.it
2016-06-08 04:00:03	Akaibu	pokechu22: meh, i'm not trying to
2016-06-08 04:00:03	+ammar2	same
2016-06-08 04:00:14	Akaibu	just trying to condense it
2016-06-08 04:01:23	Akaibu	ammar2: how are you doing it? by hand or what? just wondering
2016-06-08 04:01:31	+ammar2	ok looks like this DFA optimization algorithm is O(n^2), we should be fine as long as they don't end up having 100k domains or something
2016-06-08 04:01:43	+ammar2	Akaibu: trying to find a python library that does DFA minimization
2016-06-08 04:01:54	+ammar2	https://github.com/reverie/python-automata/blob/master/DFA.py
2016-06-08 04:02:48	Akaibu	knock in .onion in there as well lol
2016-06-08 04:07:00	kashike	android has interesting patterns https://github.com/android/platform_frameworks_base/blob/master/core/java/android/util/Patterns.java
2016-06-08 04:11:23	Akaibu	ammar2: how is it going?
2016-06-08 04:11:35	+ammar2	trying to figure out how this library works
2016-06-08 04:24:06	Akaibu	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSPACE-complete#Determining_if_a_regular_expression_generates_all_strings intriging
2016-06-08 04:32:24	+ammar2	((((((((((((((((((((((((((((d (((((e + k) + j) + m) + o) + z)) + (f (((((i + k) + j) + m) + o) + r))) + (h (((((k + m) + n) + r) + u) + t))) + (k ((((((((((e + g) + i) + h) + m) + n) + p) + r) + w) + y) + z))) + (l ((((((((((a + c) + b) + i) + k) + s) + r) + u) + t) + v) + y))) + (s (((((((((((((((((((a + c) + b) + e) + d) + g) + i) + h) + k) + j) + m) + l) + o) + n) + r) + u) + t) + v) + y) + z))) + (r ((((a + e) + s) + u) + w))) 
2016-06-08 04:32:24	+ammar2	+ (u (((((a + g) + k) + s) + y) + z))) + (w (s + f))) + (v ((((((a + c) + e) + g) + i) + n) + u))) + (y ((e + u) + t))) + (z ((a + m) + w))) + (b ((((((((((((((((((a + b) + e) + d) + g) + f) + h) + j) + m) + o) + n) + s) + r) + t) + w) + v) + y) + z) + (i (@epsilon + z))))) + (e (((((((c + e) + g) + s) + r) + u) + t) + (d u)))) + (g (((((((((((((((((((a + b) + e) + d) + g) + f) + i) + h) + m) + l) + n) + q) + p) + s) + r) + u) + t) 
2016-06-08 04:32:24	+ammar2	+ w) + y) + (o v)))) + (p (((((((((((((a + e) + g) + f) + h) + k) + m) + l) + n) + s) + t) + w) + y) + (r (@epsilon + o))))) + (j (((e + m) + p) + (o (@epsilon + (b s)))))) + (o ((r g) + (((n i) o) n)))) + (c ((((((((((((((((c + d) + g) + f) + i) + h) + k) + m) + l) + n) + r) + u) + v) + y) + x) + z) + (o ((@epsilon + m) + (o p)))))) + (i ((((((((e + d) + m) + l) + o) + q) + s) + r) + t))) + (m (((((((((((((((((((a + c) + e) + d) + 
2016-06-08 04:32:31	+ammar2	g) + h) + k) + l) + n) + p) + s) + r) + t) + w) + v) + y) + x) + z) + (o (@epsilon + (b i)))) + (u (@epsilon + (((s e) u) m)))))) + (n ((((((((((c + g) + f) + i) + l) + p) + r) + u) + z) + (o (@epsilon + m))) + (a (@epsilon + (m e)))))) + (((c a) + (n e)) (@epsilon + t))) + (q a)) + (a ((((((((((((((((((c + d) + g) + f) + i) + m) + l) + o) + n) + q) + u) + t) + w) + x) + z) + e) + s) + r) + (((s i) + (r p)) a)))) + (t 
2016-06-08 04:32:36	+ammar2	((((((((((((((((c + d) + g) + f) + h) + k) + j) + m) + l) + o) + n) + p) + t) + w) + v) + z) + r))) + (((m i) + (t (e + (r ((a v) e))))) l)) + ((a (e r)) o)) + ((i n) ((@epsilon + t) + (f o)))
2016-06-08 04:32:39	+ammar2	whoops
2016-06-08 04:32:41	+ammar2	swear that looked shorter on the command line
2016-06-08 04:32:46	+ammar2	http://pastie.org/pastes/10868679/text?key=mq6gb2ksjj8vnwhgtsza
2016-06-08 04:32:49	Pyker	that... doesn't transfer well to IRC
2016-06-08 04:33:58	+ammar2	now the trouble is going from that to a normal regex form :P
2016-06-08 04:34:13	+ammar2	theoretically that should be the shortest possible form, mathematically
2016-06-08 04:34:34	+ammar2	http://pastie.org/private/pjiouzid1ogwvxtioug
2016-06-08 04:41:29	+SinZ	wtf was that
2016-06-08 04:43:47	Akaibu	ammar2: shitmate
2016-06-08 04:43:52	Akaibu	shit mate*
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2016-06-08 04:44:03	Akaibu	thats long lol
2016-06-08 04:47:23	+ammar2	hold on, I'll see if I can get something shorter out of this thing
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2016-06-08 04:50:42	Akaibu	can you just worry about regex for urls than validate https://www.example.com www.example.com and example.com
2016-06-08 04:54:15	+ammar2	what do you mean
2016-06-08 04:55:46	Akaibu	thats what i was orignally asking about, the tld thing was an challange
2016-06-08 04:55:49	Akaibu	:)
2016-06-08 04:56:54	+ammar2	aah, I find the tld thing more fun so I'll continue on that :P
2016-06-08 04:59:19	pokechu22	How do you define a URL beyond that?  I mean, if you want a simple one that matches most things, (https?://[\w.]+\.\w+) would probably do it, but that's really greedy.
2016-06-08 05:00:03	pokechu22	Whoops, correction: ((?:https?:)?\/\/[\w.]+\.\w+)
2016-06-08 05:00:28	pokechu22	... ((?:https?:\/\/)?[\w.]+\.\w+)
2016-06-08 05:02:44	edk	there's no general way
2016-06-08 05:03:26	edk	urls aren't designed to be picked out from text
2016-06-08 05:07:39	pokechu22	Unless they're enclosed in brackets (which, technichally, is the recomendation that rfc 1738 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1738.txt) gives in the appendix).
2016-06-08 05:09:06	edk	yeah, but how often do you see that?
2016-06-08 05:09:20	edk	you didn't even do it when linking to the RFC that recommends you do it :D
2016-06-08 05:10:07	+ammar2	what are you saying, I always use the <URL:> convention
2016-06-08 05:10:12	+ammar2	everyone does
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2016-06-08 06:36:54	+XorBoole	ban ammar2 4 spam!
2016-06-08 06:41:22	+ammar2	ok this is definitely the most minimal state machine that can handle all the TLDs https://i.imgur.com/HNqWQu2.png
2016-06-08 06:41:52	+ammar2	the hard part is going from the strict state machine regex to regular old regex
2016-06-08 06:42:05	+ammar2	http://pastie.org/private/utfpiwtq4i1jo0ausm47la
2016-06-08 06:42:18	+ammar2	I believe the + is or
2016-06-08 06:42:32	+ammar2	epsilons here can just be ignored
2016-06-08 06:42:38	+ammar2	and there are a lot of unecessary brackets
2016-06-08 06:43:24	+XorBoole	but... hashtables are O(1) best case O(n) worst case if the hash algorithm is well-distributed
2016-06-08 06:44:03	+XorBoole	why
2016-06-08 06:44:05	+XorBoole	just why
2016-06-08 06:44:08	+ammar2	wat
2016-06-08 06:44:12	+ammar2	we're playing regex golf
2016-06-08 06:44:41	+ammar2	I told Akaibu a long time ago that if you just have a known set of valid inputs its really easy to come up with the mathematically shortest regex
2016-06-08 06:44:48	+ammar2	since it's just a DFA optimization problem
2016-06-08 06:45:00	edk	it's not though
2016-06-08 06:45:07	+SinZ	dafuq does that image do
2016-06-08 06:45:10	edk	coming up with the minimal DFA is obviously easy
2016-06-08 06:45:31	+XorBoole	> really easy
2016-06-08 06:45:32	edk	coming up with the minimal regex is... well
2016-06-08 06:45:51	+SinZ	validating TLD's is a fools errand
2016-06-08 06:45:52	+XorBoole	ok, please write me poly algorithm that does this for n inputs please
2016-06-08 06:45:52	+ammar2	edk: well I meant just simple regex, i.e only * and |
2016-06-08 06:45:54	edk	it's a bit like the difference between adding one to an integer and factoring it
2016-06-08 06:46:03	edk	so a regular regex? even so
2016-06-08 06:46:33	+ammar2	wouldn't the minimal regex be whatever regex you get for the minimal dfa?
2016-06-08 06:46:38	+XorBoole	ah yes, I do enjoy regular regular expressions
2016-06-08 06:47:00	+ammar2	SinZ: we're not, it's just a fun theoretical experiment
2016-06-08 06:47:02	+XorBoole	just use fgrep
2016-06-08 06:47:02	edk	ammar2: dfa aren't 1:1 with RE
2016-06-08 06:47:04	+XorBoole	fgrep is really fast
2016-06-08 06:47:30	+ammar2	edk: are they really, I don't think so
2016-06-08 06:47:31	+SinZ	does that weird image thing handle the new tld's?
2016-06-08 06:47:33	edk	good for it, i guess?
2016-06-08 06:47:43	+XorBoole	some other solutions
2016-06-08 06:47:44	+ammar2	you can definitely systematically go from RE to a DFA
2016-06-08 06:47:51	edk	ammar2: yes, but you can't go back
2016-06-08 06:47:57	+SinZ	ie, a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.m.n.o.p.q.r.sexy
2016-06-08 06:47:59	+XorBoole	assume that eventually every string will be a tld, and use ".+"
2016-06-08 06:48:40	edk	ammar2: if you want a taste of how absurdly difficult this problem is, google "star height problem" :D
2016-06-08 06:49:26	+ammar2	edk: oh wow this looks horrifying
2016-06-08 06:49:40	+ammar2	thanks for the info though, I always assumed it was as easy going backwards from DFA to RE
2016-06-08 06:49:43	+XorBoole	how about instead making an addition to the regex standard, (?tld:...) matches only tlds
2016-06-08 06:50:40	+ammar2	>[The procedure described by Hashiguchi] leads to computations that are by far impossible, even for very small examples. For instance, if L is accepted by a 4 state automaton of loop complexity 3 (and with a small 10 element transition monoid), then a very low minorant of the number of languages to be tested with L for equality is: {\displaystyle \left(10^{10^{10}}\right)^{\left(10^{10^{10}}\right)^{\left(10^{10^{10}}\right)}}.} 
2016-06-08 06:50:48	+ammar2	10/10
2016-06-08 06:51:03	+ammar2	Notice that alone the number {\displaystyle 10^{10^{10}}}  has 10 billion zeros when written down in decimal notation, and is already by far larger than the number of atoms in the observable universe.
2016-06-08 06:52:01	edk	shit gets combinatorial surprisingly fast there
2016-06-08 06:52:13	edk	and yeah it's an easy assumption to make
2016-06-08 06:52:34	+XorBoole	I was like wtf is a kleene star
2016-06-08 06:53:06	+XorBoole	then I read "free monoid" and was like, oh fuck this group shit
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2016-06-08 06:53:42	+XorBoole	I, for one, prefer to consider string types that are the free group over unicode rather than the free monoid
2016-06-08 06:53:46	edk	it's exactly like * in regex syntax
2016-06-08 06:54:03	+ammar2	yeah it's jsut one or more
2016-06-08 06:54:07	+ammar2	err
2016-06-08 06:54:07	+XorBoole	becaue everyone loves the difference between 'a'  and -'a'.
2016-06-08 06:54:08	+ammar2	0 or more
2016-06-08 06:54:12	+XorBoole	except strings aren't commutative
2016-06-08 06:54:15	+XorBoole	but they use +
2016-06-08 06:54:17	+XorBoole	mwahahahaha
2016-06-08 06:54:51	+XorBoole	yeah (a|b|...)* matches elements of the free monoid over a,b,...
2016-06-08 06:55:08	+ammar2	edk: well at the very least I think with a minimized DFA it's easier to hand craft shorter regex
2016-06-08 06:55:19	edk	yeah, probably
2016-06-08 06:55:21	+ammar2	since the minimization is mathematically the smallest
2016-06-08 06:56:17	+XorBoole	also, > 10 billion zeros
2016-06-08 06:56:36	+XorBoole	not to brag, but I've seen bigger numbers. like n.
2016-06-08 06:56:39	+XorBoole	n is quite big
2016-06-08 06:56:45	+XorBoole	N is bigger though
2016-06-08 07:06:38	+ammar2	ok so a smaller example: regex that matches age|aegis|agatha|ammar and only those things. This is what you get after running it through the DFA minimizer: https://i.imgur.com/KOSYUfq.png
2016-06-08 07:06:56	+ammar2	and then whatever DFA -> regex strategy this library uses gives me: a(egis|mmar|g(e|atha))
2016-06-08 07:07:14	+ammar2	which is one character shorter than just ORing all of them :<
2016-06-08 07:13:04	+SinZ	whats the numebring about
2016-06-08 07:14:02	+ammar2	meaningless, they're just state numbers
2016-06-08 07:14:17	+ammar2	important thing is the ways you can transition from one state to another
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2016-06-08 10:17:07	ryantheleach	ammar2: I've wondered a couple of times if the BlockMatcher / PatternMatcher in minecraft could use a DFA I just wouldn't know where to start
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2016-06-08 14:43:27	manuelgu	were there any changes to the player file (playerdata/uuid.dat) from 1.9.x to 1.9.4?
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2016-06-08 16:56:14	Matsv	Well that 1.10 release was unexpected
2016-06-08 16:56:31	rom1504	any change ?
2016-06-08 16:56:39	Matsv	Protocol number to 210
2016-06-08 16:56:47	Matsv	That's the only thing I could find
2016-06-08 16:58:03	rom1504	210 really oO ?
2016-06-08 16:58:10	Matsv	Yeah
2016-06-08 16:58:13	Matsv	No idea why
2016-06-08 16:58:16	rom1504	they are randomly skipping numbers now ?
2016-06-08 16:58:33	Matsv	Yeah microsoft huh? ;)
2016-06-08 16:58:45	rom1504	I propose 314 as the next version number
2016-06-08 17:05:20	Aikar	microsoft doesnt have anything to do with pc ver 
2016-06-08 17:05:38	Matsv	It was more a joke about the windows 8 to windows 10 Aikar ;)
2016-06-08 17:05:39	Aikar	it was said by someone w/ mojang :P
2016-06-08 17:05:41	Aikar	oh
2016-06-08 17:06:05	Aikar	well they had a somewhat silly reason for that
2016-06-08 17:06:45	Aikar	for skipping windows 9
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2016-06-08 17:13:26	AlphaBlend	legacy program compatibility using strng comparison.....
2016-06-08 17:13:28	AlphaBlend	bleh
2016-06-08 17:13:46	AlphaBlend	bad programming, but professionals did it lol
2016-06-08 17:21:00	+SinZ	eh?
2016-06-08 17:21:16	+SinZ	they jumped protocol version to give breathing room for potential 1.9.5
2016-06-08 17:22:29	+SinZ	but with this insanely fast 1.10 it didn't matter
2016-06-08 17:22:47	GingerGeek	what packet id is entity metadata sent in?
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2016-06-08 17:27:39	GingerGeek	0x03, 0x05 and 0x39 apparently
2016-06-08 17:37:33	rom1504	SinZ: no but they jumper protocol version *again*
2016-06-08 17:37:37	rom1504	*jumped
2016-06-08 17:38:28	+SinZ	they had internal pre-releases? but that hasn't affected things in the past
2016-06-08 17:43:40	redstonehelper	they changed the protocol number between 1.10-pre2 and 1.10?
2016-06-08 17:43:50	Matsv	Yeah
2016-06-08 17:43:55	redstonehelper	so not only was it unannounced and not the same as 1.10, but also not protocol compatible?
2016-06-08 17:44:00	redstonehelper	but hey, we get polar bears
2016-06-08 17:44:02	redstonehelper	so everybody is happy
2016-06-08 17:44:07	redstonehelper	right?
2016-06-08 17:44:51	Matsv	They always bump the protocol version every official release right?
2016-06-08 17:45:00	redstonehelper	no
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2016-06-08 17:59:41	PunKeel	Has anyone noticed a difference in the chunk format for the Nether dimension?
2016-06-08 18:25:16	+ammar2	Matsv: almost always
2016-06-08 18:25:25	+ammar2	I think there's only bee one or two version that haven't
2016-06-08 18:28:02	hansihe	minor releases most often don't though
2016-06-08 18:28:58	+ammar2	yeah, I assume he was talking about 1.x changes
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2016-06-08 18:31:04	redstonehelper	they don't upgrade the protocol version on principle afaik
2016-06-08 18:35:22	+ammar2	it's probably more consistent these days but a couple of years ago it was pretty chaotic
2016-06-08 18:47:52	madaal	I haven't used mcp in a while (> 9 months), does anybody know how long it normaly take them to update mcp to the new version of minecraft ?
2016-06-08 18:49:12	redstonehelper	should be soon, days/weeks
2016-06-08 18:57:55	_MylesC	What's the difference between projectiles / thrown potions in 1.10 and 1.9?
2016-06-08 18:58:02	_MylesC	(anyone know?)
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2016-06-08 19:08:04	Arm4x	Hi guys :)
2016-06-08 19:16:52	Aikar	seems they leak it to forge before hand, so if forge comes out first, you can extract the update from out of forge
2016-06-08 19:17:17	Aikar	or if someone updates mcpbot to the latest srg url
2016-06-08 19:36:49	Arm4x	I'm creating a node.js protocol module
2016-06-08 19:36:55	Arm4x	how can I see if my client is on ground?
2016-06-08 19:43:03	rom1504	by checking if it is using the block under you
2016-06-08 19:43:27	rom1504	Arm4x: did you see https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol and https://github.com/PrismarineJS/mineflayer ?
2016-06-08 19:52:51	Arm4x	rom1504: yes but does it parse all the packets?
2016-06-08 19:53:57	rom1504	yes
2016-06-08 19:58:39	Arm4x	client.on(0x03, function(packet) {
2016-06-08 19:58:50	Arm4x	user must specify packet_id for the event
2016-06-08 19:59:26	Arm4x	my module have all the packets already implemented
2016-06-08 19:59:44	rom1504	where do you see that ?
2016-06-08 20:00:02	rom1504	node-minecraft-protocol parse all the packets
2016-06-08 20:00:05	rom1504	and packets have names
2016-06-08 20:00:24	rom1504	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol#echo-client-example
2016-06-08 20:00:47	rom1504	feel free to reimplement everything though
2016-06-08 20:03:31	Arm4x	didn't see about packets names
2016-06-08 20:03:41	Arm4x	anyway I wanted to implement my own module
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2016-06-08 20:11:09	Not-8606	[wiki] Edit by BartoszKonkol to Protocol version numbers -> http://tinyurl.com/z4x5wjl
2016-06-08 20:12:15	Not-8606	[wiki] Edit by BartoszKonkol to Protocol version numbers -> http://tinyurl.com/hwtf4zg
2016-06-08 20:12:34	+XorBoole	wait, did 1.10 not have substancial protocol changes
2016-06-08 20:16:30	Matsv	Nope
2016-06-08 20:16:45	Matsv	Only a fancy new number ;)
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2016-06-08 20:20:33	Patralos	hi
2016-06-08 20:20:52	Patralos	did someone already reverse 1.10 for the packet changes?
2016-06-08 20:22:06	Matsv	Patralos: http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol the only thing that changed is the protocol id, to 210
2016-06-08 20:22:45	Patralos	nice thx, i just implemented the changes from Protocol_History
2016-06-08 20:22:49	Patralos	thats my fault
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2016-06-08 20:57:24	Arm4x	anyway atm this is my code https://github.com/Armax/Elix
2016-06-08 20:57:46	Arm4x	if someone have tips/idea in order to improve it you are welcome :)
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2016-06-08 21:23:21	Patralos	it seems to me like there is also a change in PlayerListHeaderFooter
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2016-06-08 21:28:41	Matsv	Patralos: what kind of change? Haven't seen any myself
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2016-06-08 21:29:17	Patralos	if i just pass the old packet i get io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(20) + length(4) exceeds writerIndex(21): UnpooledHeapByteBuf(ridx: 20, widx: 21, cap: 21)
2016-06-08 21:29:25	Patralos	but sadly no stacktrace
2016-06-08 21:29:33	Patralos	just kicked from the server
2016-06-08 21:29:42	Matsv	Oh Spigot?
2016-06-08 21:29:52	Matsv	on*
2016-06-08 21:30:09	Patralos	Bungeecord
2016-06-08 21:30:10	Matsv	Enable debug in server.properties, that'll print out the stacktrace
2016-06-08 21:30:12	Matsv	oh
2016-06-08 21:31:32	Patralos	ok, i printed the stacktrace on bungee
2016-06-08 21:31:33	Patralos	http://hastebin.com/jutuperuwa.avrasm
2016-06-08 21:32:41	Patralos	but i am not sure why, as the server itself is 1.9.4 and just a 1.10 client
2016-06-08 21:32:57	Patralos	and as far as i know this is a server-> client packet
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2016-06-08 22:40:41	Not-b880	[Charge] Wallbraker pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/vomod
2016-06-08 22:40:42	Not-b880	[Charge] Wallbraker 974e8ff - math: Add Morton encoding functions