2016-04-18 00:41:32	hansihe	Just looked at MCProtocolLib, it doesn't seem like it deals with chunk encoding, looks like it just deals with a byte array
2016-04-18 00:41:36	hansihe	I might be wrong?
2016-04-18 00:41:48	Gjum	Matthewacon: it's possible you encode the chunks incorrectly, which would result in the client not being able to look up the wrong block ids
2016-04-18 00:41:59	Gjum	can you show some code quickly?
2016-04-18 00:42:36	Gjum	yeah, afaik mcprotocollib builds on minecraft-data, which takes a bytearray as chunk data
2016-04-18 00:42:36	Matthewacon	Sure it's on Github, just a precaution, it's pretty atrocious...
2016-04-18 00:42:53	Matthewacon	Chunk generation: https://github.com/netherrack/netherrack/blob/chunks/src/main/java/org/netherrack/generation/BasicGenerator.java
2016-04-18 00:43:11	Matthewacon	Client login: https://github.com/netherrack/netherrack/blob/chunks/src/main/java/org/netherrack/Login.java
2016-04-18 00:48:19	Gjum	chunk encoding looks ok, and I see no problem with generation, if that gets called correctly.
2016-04-18 00:49:04	Matthewacon	It's called in the main server method in Netherrack.java
2016-04-18 00:49:30	Matthewacon	And I scoped the variables before they were sent to the client, each column to be sent to the client had all 16 chunks filled with stone
2016-04-18 00:49:59	Matthewacon	It's dull generation, but we needed something to test out the packets
2016-04-18 00:50:13	Gjum	do you maqybe spawn inside the blocks, and see through them?
2016-04-18 00:50:28	Matthewacon	No
2016-04-18 00:50:36	Matthewacon	There is no world when we spawn in
2016-04-18 00:50:59	Matthewacon	We don't update the player position after sending it, but it should still allow us to spawn at that location
2016-04-18 00:51:09	Matthewacon	And if the chunks were loaded, then we'd be in stone
2016-04-18 00:51:29	Matthewacon	However, the client says "Waiting for chunks..." on the F3 menu
2016-04-18 00:51:34	+Thinkofname	Matthewacon: on the client's F3 what does the multiplayer cache part say?
2016-04-18 00:51:43	Matthewacon	Let me check
2016-04-18 00:51:47	rom1504	Gjum: no mcprotocollib doesn't use minecraft-data, it's kind of the other way round (we took packet names from it initially)
2016-04-18 00:52:24	Gjum	ah, I confused it with protocolgen
2016-04-18 00:53:12	Matthewacon	When I join the server the MultiplayerChunkCache says: "0, 0
2016-04-18 00:53:12	rom1504	ah yeah
2016-04-18 00:53:14	Matthewacon	When I join the server the MultiplayerChunkCache says: "0, 0"
2016-04-18 00:53:16	Matthewacon	Whoops
2016-04-18 00:53:30	+Thinkofname	then the client didn't even get a chunk
2016-04-18 00:53:41	Matthewacon	So we're not sending the chunks correctly?
2016-04-18 00:54:11	+Thinkofname	by the looks of things
2016-04-18 00:55:13	Matthewacon	Well we send a "new ServerChunkDataPacket" to the session received upon client connection, using a populated column
2016-04-18 00:55:13	Matthewacon	So
2016-04-18 00:55:19	Matthewacon	Could it be something else?
2016-04-18 00:56:01	Matthewacon	I don't think it's an issue with sending packets, because we can send the ServerJoinGamePacket and ServerPlayerPositionRotationPacket without any issues
2016-04-18 00:57:44	+Thinkofname	your generateChunks method is really weird, Boxing integers and resetting them using the previous loop. You seem to box integers everywhere actually. Don't think thats the issue though (but your chunks will look weird when they do work)
2016-04-18 00:59:25	Matthewacon	The chunks were not made to be aesthetically pleasing, we just needed something to test with, so I just filled the chunks with stone, and stacked them on top of each other in columns. So when the player joins in, they should be inside of stone blocks
2016-04-18 00:59:52	+Thinkofname	they wont be filled with stone, just a wall of it.
2016-04-18 01:00:03	+Thinkofname	Matthewacon: anyway, https://github.com/netherrack/netherrack/blob/chunks/src/main/java/org/netherrack/generation/BasicGenerator.java#L51
2016-04-18 01:00:25	+Thinkofname	change 'new Column(xcoor, zcoor, columnChunks)' to 'new Column(xcoor, zcoor, columnChunks, new byte[256]);
2016-04-18 01:00:29	+Thinkofname	just to see if that works
2016-04-18 01:00:45	Matthewacon	For biome data?
2016-04-18 01:00:48	+Thinkofname	yes
2016-04-18 01:01:22	+Thinkofname	looking at MCProtocollib not having biome data causes it to treat it as a chunk update not a new chunk
2016-04-18 01:01:26	Matthewacon	In the MCProtocolLIb, the constructor chains to another constructor that when passed in with null, just fills the biome data with a new byte[] anways
2016-04-18 01:01:29	+Thinkofname	the client would ignore the packet
2016-04-18 01:01:39	Matthewacon	Well I'll try it
2016-04-18 01:01:41	+Thinkofname	Matthewacon: https://github.com/Steveice10/MCProtocolLib/blob/master/src/main/java/org/spacehq/mc/protocol/data/game/chunk/Column.java#L12
2016-04-18 01:01:49	+Thinkofname	it just uses null
2016-04-18 01:02:06	Matthewacon	Oh maybe thats why
2016-04-18 01:02:22	+Thinkofname	its really weird design if that is the issue
2016-04-18 01:03:49	Matthewacon	well what do you know
2016-04-18 01:03:53	Matthewacon	Problem solved
2016-04-18 01:03:56	Matthewacon	Jeez
2016-04-18 01:03:57	+Thinkofname	\o/
2016-04-18 01:04:16	+Thinkofname	i'd open an issue about that, it should at least be documented
2016-04-18 01:04:33	Matthewacon	Hours of reading protocol info and it was that (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
2016-04-18 01:04:42	Matthewacon	I could've been doing something else productive XD
2016-04-18 01:04:49	Matthewacon	I'll post an issue
2016-04-18 01:05:39	rom1504	bug that take a long time to solve are always small little things
2016-04-18 01:05:57	+sadimusi	Thinkofname: You're Thinkofdeath? Sorry, it's been a while since I was last here :D
2016-04-18 01:06:02	+Thinkofname	sadimusi: yep
2016-04-18 01:06:41	+Thinkofname	went for something a little less morbid
2016-04-18 01:07:51	+sadimusi	I can certinaly understand that :D I've dropped my "sadimusi" pseudonym in most places as well ;)
2016-04-18 01:13:49	+sadimusi	I was wondering if anyone of you knew if there were any kind of guidelines for "good bots" when it comes to minecraft
2016-04-18 01:23:48	Matthewacon	GladOS
2016-04-18 01:23:55	Matthewacon	Problem solved
2016-04-18 01:24:07	Matthewacon	Actually though, what do you mean by bots
2016-04-18 01:24:12	+sadimusi	:D
2016-04-18 01:24:14	Matthewacon	Like player interaction?
2016-04-18 01:24:32	+sadimusi	No, my bot simply connects to a server and executes a few commands
2016-04-18 01:24:44	+sadimusi	like /version, /plugins, /help and the like
2016-04-18 01:25:01	Matthewacon	Well you'd need accounts to connect with, or the server would have to be in offline more
2016-04-18 01:25:06	Matthewacon	mode*
2016-04-18 01:25:50	+sadimusi	Sure, but that's not my question
2016-04-18 01:26:06	+Thinkofname	sadimusi: as long as your bot provides a clear way to prevent it from connecting (and to tell where its from) server owners /shouldn't/ mind
2016-04-18 01:26:18	+sadimusi	Thinkofname: I guess so
2016-04-18 01:26:26	+Thinkofname	don't be minechat which (last I heard) makes it hard to prevent it from connecting
2016-04-18 01:27:22	+Thinkofname	I do remember a server list using a bot a while back which people were having a hard time working out where it was from
2016-04-18 01:27:35	pokechu22	Use a client brand.  That's my number one tip.
2016-04-18 01:27:44	+Thinkofname	MCI was its name
2016-04-18 01:27:58	+sadimusi	I do use that, but maybe that should be more specific
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2016-04-18 01:28:25	+sadimusi	And as a rule the IPs I connect from also refer to something like this http://minecraftservers.org/query-ip
2016-04-18 01:29:18	+Thinkofname	handy
2016-04-18 01:29:33	+Thinkofname	should be fine then
2016-04-18 01:30:00	+Thinkofname	does the bot have a username it uses?
2016-04-18 01:30:10	+sadimusi	But the project I'm currently working on  is not for minecraftserver.org but for a postdoctoral fellow who's interested more in the communities built around minecraft
2016-04-18 01:30:31	 *	Thinkofname wants to prepare for when someone inevitably asks about it over at spigot
2016-04-18 01:30:48	+Thinkofname	ah
2016-04-18 01:31:58	+sadimusi	I think there was a recent nytimes article quoting him iirc
2016-04-18 01:32:33	+sadimusi	Yeah, here it is http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/17/magazine/the-minecraft-generation.html?_r=1
2016-04-18 01:32:58	+sadimusi	Anyway, I'm connecting to servers and record things like /version, /plugins, /help and so on
2016-04-18 01:33:20	+sadimusi	And of course the signs placed around spawn
2016-04-18 01:33:34	+Thinkofname	the first two get blocked on a lot of servers
2016-04-18 01:34:04	+sadimusi	Yeah, mostly professionally run servers though
2016-04-18 01:34:43	+sadimusi	And there's still the MC|Brand plugin message to replace /version
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2016-04-18 01:34:50	+Thinkofname	I should really hide the version info in MC|Brand like bungee does :)
2016-04-18 01:35:34	+Thinkofname	(no idea if that breaks mojang's stat collection)
2016-04-18 01:35:50	pokechu22	IMO, people generally can figure out what plugin and server software you are running just from looking at it.
2016-04-18 01:36:11	+sadimusi	People sure, but bots are not so smart ;) 
2016-04-18 01:36:12	pokechu22	Also, MC|Brand is fed to the statistics, but I don't think it really matters if you have version info in it (I put version info in it)
2016-04-18 01:36:28	+sadimusi	we're currently tracking 250k servers…
2016-04-18 01:36:48	pokechu22	sadimusi: Wouldn't the query protocol work well for you?  http://wiki.vg/Query
2016-04-18 01:36:52	+Thinkofname	pokechu22: thinking about when they post stats, it would make their job of grouping by server software harder
2016-04-18 01:36:57	+Thinkofname	pokechu22: disabled by default
2016-04-18 01:37:15	+sadimusi	pokechu22: around 15% have enabled it
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2016-04-18 01:43:31	+sadimusi	On a completely unrelated topic: does anyone have an idea what's up with servers spamming you with team packets before you even spawned?
2016-04-18 01:51:18	+Thinkofname	sadimusi: whats the contents of those packets look like?
2016-04-18 01:56:08	+sadimusi	I'll run another round, but so far it looked like at least the team name was random
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2016-04-18 02:01:19	+Thinkofname	most likely scoreboard abuse then
2016-04-18 02:01:42	+Thinkofname	using team prefixes and suffixes to get longer scoreboard entries
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2016-04-18 02:22:28	+sadimusi	Actually, those packets seem entirely pointless
2016-04-18 02:22:40	+sadimusi	They have a team name like "60e3dcd0-a08f-43"
2016-04-18 02:22:49	+sadimusi	display name is the same 
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2016-04-18 02:23:37	+sadimusi	prefix and suffix are empty, flags are 0x03, visibility is always, color is white and players are empt
2016-04-18 02:23:39	+sadimusi	+y
2016-04-18 02:24:28	+sadimusi	158.69.139.140 is such an example
2016-04-18 02:25:45	+sadimusi	around 6k packets per second m(
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2016-04-18 13:10:45	-->	hansihe (sid106603@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iglvdhcmtsuwakuf) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 13:12:34	-->	Morrolan (morrolan@castle.morrolan.ch) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 13:14:41	<--	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2016-04-18 13:14:59	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 13:15:41	-->	eeew (~eeew@188.227.225.163) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 13:17:01	-->	x56 (0x56@unaffiliated/x56) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 13:18:21	-->	jnoah (~brutal_ch@osuosl/staff/brutal-chaos) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 13:18:21	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v jnoah] par ChanServ
2016-04-18 13:24:41	<--	VoidWhisperer (~VoidWhisp@unaffiliated/voidwhisperer) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-04-18 13:25:19	-->	VoidWhisperer (~VoidWhisp@vwserver.student.rit.edu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 13:25:19	<--	VoidWhisperer (~VoidWhisp@vwserver.student.rit.edu) a quitté (Changing host)
2016-04-18 13:25:19	-->	VoidWhisperer (~VoidWhisp@unaffiliated/voidwhisperer) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 13:52:18	--	jargan est maintenant connu sous le nom jast
2016-04-18 13:56:47	<--	cengizIO (~cengizIO@213.14.113.102) a quitté (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2016-04-18 14:10:34	-->	cengizIO (~cengizIO@213.14.113.102) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 14:21:45	<--	fmend031__ (~fmend031@pinkiepie.cs.fiu.edu) a quitté (Quit: Leaving)
2016-04-18 14:25:23	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2016-04-18 14:33:54	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@73.238.243.94) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-18 14:35:18	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 14:40:44	<--	Monkey0x9 (~Monkey0x9@188.166.59.44) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-04-18 14:42:08	-->	Monkey0x9 (~Monkey0x9@188.166.59.44) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 14:48:04	<--	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2016-04-18 14:58:12	-->	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 14:59:25	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2016-04-18 14:59:45	<--	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2016-04-18 15:00:30	-->	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 15:00:35	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 15:00:54	<--	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Client Quit)
2016-04-18 15:17:47	-->	Modius22 (~Adium@pl-office.plusline.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 15:29:38	-->	Modius221 (~Adium@pl-office.plusline.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 15:31:03	<--	Modius22 (~Adium@pl-office.plusline.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-18 15:44:26	-->	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 15:48:59	-->	bantard (~bantard@94.64.126.2) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 16:02:19	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2016-04-18 16:02:53	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 17:05:42	<--	cengizIO (~cengizIO@213.14.113.102) a quitté (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2016-04-18 17:19:41	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Server List -> http://tinyurl.com/zo4hec4
2016-04-18 17:19:58	-->	Matthewacon_ (c7470c4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.71.12.76) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 17:20:03	Matthewacon_	Hey
2016-04-18 17:20:05	Matthewacon_	Is anybody on
2016-04-18 17:29:03	barneygale	yes
2016-04-18 17:39:36	<--	Matthewacon_ (c7470c4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.71.12.76) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-18 17:41:17	<--	LaxWasHere (~Lax@deathtopennies.org) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2016-04-18 17:41:24	-->	LaxWasHere (~Lax@deathtopennies.org) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 17:43:36	<--	williammck (~williammc@unaffiliated/williammck) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2016-04-18 17:44:33	-->	williammck (~williammc@pluto.williammck.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 17:44:33	<--	williammck (~williammc@pluto.williammck.net) a quitté (Changing host)
2016-04-18 17:44:33	-->	williammck (~williammc@unaffiliated/williammck) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 17:51:23	tktech	I should start banning the web client.
2016-04-18 17:54:54	ScruffyRules	tktech, Probably for the best, if you don't know how to use an IRC client I don't think you should be touching Minecraft's internals.
2016-04-18 17:58:32	<--	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-04-18 18:20:56	+XorBoole	ScruffyRules touching internals ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
2016-04-18 18:21:04	ScruffyRules	( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 
2016-04-18 18:21:25	+XorBoole	oh yes, reverse engineer my protocol
2016-04-18 18:21:40	+XorBoole	I should go out more ._.
2016-04-18 18:21:46	 *	XorBoole goes back to his math homework
2016-04-18 18:24:44	ScruffyRules	xD
2016-04-18 18:26:17	redstonehelper	xd
2016-04-18 18:26:17	-->	bantard_ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 18:26:44	+XorBoole	dx/dt
2016-04-18 18:28:46	<--	bantard (~bantard@94.64.126.2) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-18 18:36:32	--	M-ou-se_ est maintenant connu sous le nom M-ou-se
2016-04-18 18:46:24	 *	gurun goes out .. more
2016-04-18 18:49:19	+XorBoole	going to the kitchen doesn't count
2016-04-18 18:49:56	Gjum	toilet?
2016-04-18 18:56:27	<--	Modius221 (~Adium@pl-office.plusline.de) a quitté #mcdevs
2016-04-18 19:00:17	<--	Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:e427:cd3a:abe1:47fc) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-04-18 19:00:31	-->	Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:2839:1996:67e4:265a) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 19:02:41	<--	Jckf (jckf@mikros.flaten.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-04-18 19:04:17	<--	Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:2839:1996:67e4:265a) a quitté (Write error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-04-18 19:04:33	-->	Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:2839:1996:67e4:265a) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 19:05:35	-->	Jckf (jckf@mikros.flaten.it) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 19:08:12	<--	bantard_ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-18 19:41:16	--	williamtdr_ est maintenant connu sous le nom williamtdr
2016-04-18 20:19:11	-->	icke_ (~icke@213.83.43.18) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 20:19:31	--	icke_ est maintenant connu sous le nom JustASlacker
2016-04-18 20:23:33	<--	NickG365 (~NickG365@cortex.starlabs.theflash.rocks) a quitté (Excess Flood)
2016-04-18 20:23:56	-->	NickG365 (~NickG365@cortex.starlabs.theflash.rocks) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 21:33:47	-->	bantard (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 21:51:55	<--	jflory7 (~jflory7@fedora/jflory7) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2016-04-18 21:52:06	<--	__0x277F (~knm@unaffiliated/--0x277f/x-3357507) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2016-04-18 21:53:22	-->	cengizIO (~cengizIO@91.93.175.208) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 21:55:53	-->	__0x277F (~knm@bnc.j-f.co) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 21:56:16	--	__0x277F est maintenant connu sous le nom Guest20053
2016-04-18 21:57:25	-->	jflory7|alt (~jflory7@fedora/jflory7) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 22:01:32	<--	jflory7|alt (~jflory7@fedora/jflory7) a quitté (Excess Flood)
2016-04-18 22:02:30	-->	jflory7|alt (~jflory7@fedora/jflory7) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 22:04:58	<--	cengizIO (~cengizIO@91.93.175.208) a quitté (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
2016-04-18 22:08:00	--	jflory7|alt est maintenant connu sous le nom jflory7
2016-04-18 22:34:12	<--	JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a quitté (Read error: Connection timed out)
2016-04-18 22:34:42	-->	JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 22:38:47	<--	GingerGeek (~Zed@unaffiliated/gingergeek) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2016-04-18 22:38:53	--	Guest20053 est maintenant connu sous le nom __0x277E
2016-04-18 22:45:05	-->	GingerGeek (~Zed@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::8e:1000) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 22:45:05	<--	GingerGeek (~Zed@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::8e:1000) a quitté (Changing host)
2016-04-18 22:45:05	-->	GingerGeek (~Zed@unaffiliated/gingergeek) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 22:56:33	--	__0x277E est maintenant connu sous le nom __0x277F
2016-04-18 22:56:38	<--	__0x277F (~knm@bnc.j-f.co) a quitté (Changing host)
2016-04-18 22:56:38	-->	__0x277F (~knm@unaffiliated/--0x277f/x-3357507) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 23:15:04	-->	bantard_ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 23:18:12	<--	bantard (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2016-04-18 23:18:45	-->	bantard__ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 23:22:08	<--	bantard_ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-18 23:29:11	<--	Fador (fador@hentai.fi) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-04-18 23:29:18	-->	Fador (fador@hentai.fi) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 23:34:23	<--	Fador (fador@hentai.fi) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-04-18 23:34:24	-->	Fador_ (fador@hentai.fi) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 23:47:50	<--	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-04-18 23:54:18	-->	bantard_ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 23:56:58	-->	bantard (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-18 23:57:17	<--	bantard__ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-04-18 23:59:16	<--	bantard_ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-04-18 23:59:52	-->	pokechu22 (322347d5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.71.213) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 00:07:47	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-04-19 00:08:42	-->	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 00:08:42	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ
2016-04-19 00:08:51	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 00:19:32	-->	coolsa (~coolsa@unaffiliated/coolsa) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 00:29:06	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom roar
2016-04-19 00:29:08	--	roar est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2016-04-19 00:29:17	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-04-19 00:30:23	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 00:34:05	-->	cengizIO (~cengizIO@91.93.175.208) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 00:40:56	<--	JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2016-04-19 00:45:24	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-04-19 00:46:12	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 00:54:56	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/h4op7rl
2016-04-19 01:06:47	<--	m0r13 (~m0r13@mail.yellow-ray.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-04-19 01:07:45	-->	bantard_ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 01:09:18	<--	bantard (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2016-04-19 01:09:59	-->	m0r13 (~m0r13@mail.yellow-ray.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 01:11:42	<--	cengizIO (~cengizIO@91.93.175.208) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2016-04-19 02:00:56	-->	coolsa_ (~coolsa@unaffiliated/coolsa) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 02:04:04	<--	coolsa (~coolsa@unaffiliated/coolsa) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-04-19 02:05:54	-->	coolsa__ (~coolsa@unaffiliated/coolsa) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 02:09:16	<--	coolsa_ (~coolsa@unaffiliated/coolsa) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-04-19 03:26:26	<--	bantard_ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Quit: Leaving)
2016-04-19 03:52:12	-->	Pangea_ (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 04:17:52	<--	SinZ (~SinZ@CPE-121-219-105-50.lnse2.lon.bigpond.net.au) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2016-04-19 04:18:48	-->	SinZ (~SinZ@CPE-121-219-232-203.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 04:18:52	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v SinZ] par ChanServ
2016-04-19 04:49:11	-->	oldmanmike (~oldmanmik@c-68-38-17-143.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 04:59:09	<--	oldmanmike (~oldmanmik@c-68-38-17-143.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a quitté (Quit: leaving)
2016-04-19 05:34:17	<--	KHobbits (~khf@baka.khobbits.co.uk) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2016-04-19 05:36:31	-->	KHobbits (~khf@baka.khobbits.co.uk) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 05:39:56	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r
2016-04-19 05:47:20	-->	Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ektjlsdqhroosuuy) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 06:31:44	<--	pokechu22 (322347d5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.71.213) a quitté (Quit: Page closed)
2016-04-19 06:43:59	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 06:44:57	<--	Pangea_ (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-19 06:47:36	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2016-04-19 06:47:36	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2016-04-19 06:51:35	-->	Pangea_ (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 07:04:53	--	Fador_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Fador
2016-04-19 07:04:59	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Fador] par ChanServ
2016-04-19 07:24:49	<--	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-19 07:27:00	-->	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 07:29:02	-->	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 09:05:47	<--	Pangea_ (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-19 09:17:05	<--	coolsa__ (~coolsa@unaffiliated/coolsa) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2016-04-19 09:33:56	<--	Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ektjlsdqhroosuuy) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2016-04-19 09:49:18	<--	AlJaMa (~quassel@unaffiliated/aljama) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2016-04-19 10:10:16	<--	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-04-19 10:14:07	-->	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 11:59:29	-->	beetsoft (~beetsoft@92.255.185.247) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 12:00:06	<--	beetsoft (~beetsoft@92.255.185.247) a quitté (Client Quit)
2016-04-19 12:53:15	-->	player2 (~player2@2606:6000:e6d4:9a00:2dca:bea0:8c99:303d) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 13:03:16	<--	player2 (~player2@2606:6000:e6d4:9a00:2dca:bea0:8c99:303d) a quitté (Quit: Leaving)
2016-04-19 13:20:11	<--	Dadido3_ (~quassel@p5B00AF94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
2016-04-19 13:21:39	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p5B00AF94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 13:29:10	-->	bantard (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 13:44:42	<--	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Quit: Sleep)
2016-04-19 14:12:42	<--	Pyker (pyker@pyker.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2016-04-19 14:14:05	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2016-04-19 14:19:50	-->	Pyker (pyker@pyker.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 14:20:12	<--	Matthewacon (17e9772c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.23.233.119.44) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-19 14:46:06	-->	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 14:55:07	<--	bantard (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-04-19 14:55:31	-->	bantard (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 15:03:10	-->	bantard_ (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-19 15:06:22	<--	bantard (~bantard@ppp-94-64-126-2.home.otenet.gr) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-19 15:11:57	<--	Pyker (pyker@pyker.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-04-19 15:23:43	-->	gurun_ (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2016-04-20 00:55:21	Akaibu	anyone knows what is happening here?:
2016-04-20 00:55:27	Akaibu	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/bvMjaroC/
2016-04-20 01:02:43	+Amaranth	Akaibu: I think fuck off with the cheat client?
2016-04-20 01:03:34	redstonehelper	https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-32606
2016-04-20 01:04:10	pokechu22	2b2t explictly allows those clients.  I don't like those clients, but that's their rules...
2016-04-20 01:04:38	Akaibu	Amaranth: meh, i'm just trying to figure out how this client can't connect to 2b2t, while the protocol client(http://hypnohacks.weebly.com) can connect
2016-04-20 01:05:09	+Amaranth	pokechu22: What does that have to do with my desire to help with it? :P
2016-04-20 01:05:13	pokechu22	Someone has invalid entity atributes.  I don't know if it's possible to spawn one like that, though.
2016-04-20 01:05:49	pokechu22	The packet ones below the first one are interesting.  The _very_ first one, meh.
2016-04-20 01:05:53	Akaibu	Amaranth: not asking for help tbh, just wondering why
2016-04-20 01:06:33	Akaibu	it doesn't appear that there is a protocol diffrence afaik between wurst and protocol
2016-04-20 01:07:00	Akaibu	pokechu22: what line?
2016-04-20 01:07:24	pokechu22	The "Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Default value cannot be lower than minimum value!" ones
2016-04-20 01:08:32	Akaibu	but yea redstonehelper that isn't this bug, i have had that bug before on the vannila client
2016-04-20 01:09:23	redstonehelper	oh, you don't care about the crash in java?
2016-04-20 01:09:58	Akaibu	um.. depends on why you say that exactly
2016-04-20 01:10:24	redstonehelper	your game crashed because of MC-32606
2016-04-20 01:10:30	redstonehelper	the things before that did not crash your game
2016-04-20 01:10:41	Akaibu	hmm...
2016-04-20 01:11:11	pokechu22	Someone _somehow_ spawned a broken entity.  Dunno how; I'd think that it would be caught serverside (even if they used a spawn egg with invalid metadata).
2016-04-20 01:12:08	Akaibu	with the vannila client, i crash once i am booted out(due to the server restarting) and me trying to log back in, with wurst, it crashes once i start in and can see stuff on the first attemt logging into a server
2016-04-20 01:12:52	Akaibu	i say these are different crash conditions
2016-04-20 01:13:46	pokechu22	Does the vanilla client work right now?  Or no?
2016-04-20 01:13:52	Akaibu	yea
2016-04-20 01:14:30	Akaibu	its the wursst client that doesn't, i am thinking its because the portocal isn't updated to 1.9.2+
2016-04-20 01:14:49	pokechu22	Is 2b2t survival or creative?  If it's survival, then I have no clue how someone would make a broken entitiy.
2016-04-20 01:14:57	Akaibu	survival
2016-04-20 01:15:43	Akaibu	and i can't really summit it to him due to him removing the github issues...
2016-04-20 01:15:54	pokechu22	No clue then.  Something has bad metadata from the log, but I don't know what it is.  Also... you really should update your graphics card.
2016-04-20 01:16:00	pokechu22	*drivers
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2016-04-20 01:16:31	Akaibu	just as simple as the "update driver" button you see built into windows?
2016-04-20 01:17:38	Akaibu	seems like it
2016-04-20 01:18:56	pokechu22	Intel has their own thing as well here: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html?iid=dc_iduu
2016-04-20 01:24:54	Akaibu	ok, that worked, thanks pokechu22
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2016-04-20 01:40:39	Akaibu	strange
2016-04-20 01:40:57	Akaibu	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tVTrR1iF/
2016-04-20 01:41:30	Akaibu	is this the same shit?
2016-04-20 01:51:07	pokechu22	Yea, still don't know why that would give an access violation...
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2016-04-20 02:29:40	pokechu22	Oh, redstonehelper, you probably would know: Is it possible to use hopper.minecraft.net as a mod developer to check crash reports from my mod?  I did change the client brand.
2016-04-20 02:30:19	redstonehelper	it has a search, right?
2016-04-20 02:30:27	redstonehelper	throw one of your crashes at it and see what happens
2016-04-20 02:31:06	redstonehelper	but no, I don't explicitly know - ask g__m if you don't figure it out yourself
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2016-04-20 02:32:26	pokechu22	If there is a search button, either it's only there for devs or I can't see it :/
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2016-04-20 02:39:12	pokechu22	Hm, there _is_ a search page (http://hopper.minecraft.net/crashes/search/), but it expects an entire report.  Ah well, hopefully all of the crashes I need to deal with are reported anyways.
2016-04-20 02:49:29	tktech	pokechu22, You can search the crashes
2016-04-20 02:50:01	tktech	I'm not sure I want to tell you how though, it's not documented and it slows the entire thing to a crawl
2016-04-20 02:50:22	tktech	What are you looking for?
2016-04-20 02:50:23	pokechu22	... oh, let me guess.  Download all of them?
2016-04-20 02:50:56	tktech	Nope
2016-04-20 02:51:16	tktech	It has an actually search you just have to guess the args
2016-04-20 02:52:40	pokechu22	Does it take client brands?  It doesn't look like the client brand is public on any of the reports, just the stacktrace and if it's modded.
2016-04-20 02:53:09	tktech	Do you have one that would be a unique search value?
2016-04-20 02:53:10	tktech	I can try
2016-04-20 02:54:33	pokechu22	I've got several, but "worlddownloader1.9a-beta2-coremod" probably is the main one.
2016-04-20 03:00:37	tktech	Can't find a way to get to it.
2016-04-20 03:00:45	tktech	There are a lot of filtering options
2016-04-20 03:00:47	tktech	Ex: http://hopper.minecraft.net/crashes/minecraft/?status=open&vanilla&version=1.8
2016-04-20 03:03:19	Akaibu	this is a new one
2016-04-20 03:03:29	pokechu22	I doubt they would deal with brands, since in most cases they'd only care if it's vanilla or not.
2016-04-20 03:03:30	Akaibu	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/g8Nk4XBs/
2016-04-20 03:04:09	pokechu22	Akaibu: Well, thanks for a way to test hopper's search page: http://hopper.minecraft.net/crashes/minecraft/MCX-2744213/
2016-04-20 03:05:32	pokechu22	Looks like it's an optifine issue...?
2016-04-20 03:09:10	tktech	pokechu22, http://hopper.minecraft.net/crashes/minecraft/MCX-2744213/76212966/#tab_report-obfuscated
2016-04-20 03:09:18	tktech	pokechu22, search the page for "brand"
2016-04-20 03:09:29	tktech	It's available, just not easily searchable.
2016-04-20 03:10:12	pokechu22	True, but that one actually has a public report; it seems like a bunch of the ones I see only have them private :/
2016-04-20 03:19:41	Akaibu	lol, just playing around with this boat fly hack, holy hell, boats are even more broken then they were before, but in a "good" way :D
2016-04-20 03:31:09	pokechu22	... boats always were able to fly.
2016-04-20 03:31:36	pokechu22	http://i.imgur.com/3QQchZL.gif
2016-04-20 03:32:01	pokechu22	and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqceMU_P2Nk.  Though neither of those work in 1.9.
2016-04-20 03:35:32	Akaibu	no, i  mean you can actually move the boat and fly
2016-04-20 03:35:40	Akaibu	https://github.com/Wurst-Imperium/Wurst-Client-for-MC-1.9.X/commit/dc00124db82916d35f2badb72fc718f48d527788
2016-04-20 03:35:48	Akaibu	boats are now client side :D
2016-04-20 03:36:12	pokechu22	They were always client side :P  It's just now that they're exclusively client side I guess...
2016-04-20 03:36:21	pokechu22	Wouldn't the same thing happen with minecarts?
2016-04-20 03:37:18	pokechu22	From the comments there I guess not.
2016-04-20 03:50:42	Akaibu	haha, this is fun
2016-04-20 03:52:26	+Fenhl	pokechu22: no, minecarts are still server side
2016-04-20 03:52:56	+Fenhl	which is a good thing, imagine all the railway systems that would break if they changed that
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2016-04-20 04:07:10	Akaibu	Fenhl: wasn't that kinda what was happening when they tried to add pysics to minecarts?
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2016-04-20 04:43:43	+Fenhl	Wurstmineberg skipped that snapshot so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2016-04-20 04:48:33	pokechu22	So confusing keeping track of Wurstmineberg and Wurst :/
2016-04-20 04:55:56	Akaibu	?
2016-04-20 04:56:12	Akaibu	What are you nubs talking about?
2016-04-20 04:57:23	pokechu22	Wurstmineberg is a whitelisted server (that I don't play on, but I have heard about).  They seem to have a lot of open-source tools too.
2016-04-20 05:00:07	Akaibu	Know the GitHub?
2016-04-20 05:02:23	pokechu22	https://github.com/wurstmineberg
2016-04-20 05:03:21	Akaibu	Meh, doesn't look to actually have much of anything neat
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2016-04-20 05:49:35	+Fenhl	Akaibu: I'm one of the Wurstmineberg members and also one of the people who write code for it. We're a vanilla snapshot server so we're doing a lot of stuff that works with the game files. The API (https://api.wurstmineberg.de/v2/) is probably the most important part of our infrastructure, but there's also a Minecraft/IRC chat sync bot called wurstminebot
2016-04-20 05:49:35	+Fenhl	which we're rewriting from scratch as slackminebot since we've moved from IRC to Slack
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2016-04-20 06:39:02	Akaibu	Fenhl: why slack when discord is meant for games?
2016-04-20 06:40:22	Akaibu	Plus they tend to conform to new communities joining them, such as adding code highlighting when the react group(over 7000 people roughly) joined
2016-04-20 06:41:39	Akaibu	Slack is much more business, while discord is more community 
2016-04-20 06:42:12	Akaibu	Just throwing this stuff out here
2016-04-20 06:42:13	+Fenhl	Akaibu: Discord wasn't a thing yet when we switched to slack, and the integrations work very well for the dev-related stuff
2016-04-20 06:42:55	+Fenhl	plus about half of our whitelist overlaps with another community which had just switched from IRC to Slack
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2016-04-20 06:43:26	Akaibu	Switching from IRC to anything is kinda a bad idea
2016-04-20 06:43:34	+Fenhl	why?
2016-04-20 06:43:39	edk	lots of people seem to do it
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2016-04-20 06:44:24	Akaibu	It automatically cuts you off from a whole grander commuity, plus some other stuff that slips my mind
2016-04-20 06:45:01	edk	i think slack is great, i like making people's favourite clients not work so they can run electron apps with 200MB memory footprints instead
2016-04-20 06:45:04	Akaibu	Have a bridge between IRC and what ever you want to use (discord/slack)
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2016-04-20 06:46:21	Akaibu	My group's leader would have a better wording on why it's kinda a bad idea to blindly convert from IRC
2016-04-20 06:46:36	Akaibu	Anyway night
2016-04-20 06:51:40	+Fenhl	Akaibu: ok so first of all, we are a whitelisted server and only invite people we know personally, so people who want on the whitelist will usually contact us through an existing member. A few of us already had experience with Slack as I said, so we did not by any stretch of the word convert “blindly”. And we do have Slack/IRC syncing set up for both
2016-04-20 06:51:40	+Fenhl	#wurstmineberg and #wurstmineberg-dev, just in case someone does prefer IRC over Twitter or GitHub for some reason.
2016-04-20 07:03:39	edk	i far prefer irc. i suspect some of the problem with other things might be cultural, but also i like irc's horizontal integration, i like the fact that IRC networks aren't for-profit organisations, and i really really really like the fact that IRC is just text
2016-04-20 07:03:56	edk	the other chat protocols all seem to think what your client looks like is also their business
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2016-04-20 08:29:17	+SinZ	thats a decent point
2016-04-20 08:29:33	+SinZ	if you don't like the look of "irc" you can just get a different client or a different skin or whatever
2016-04-20 08:29:54	+SinZ	if you don't like the look of discord or slack, suck it up or find a different service entirely
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2016-04-20 10:21:40	+AndrewPH	SinZ: you can connect to slack via irc
2016-04-20 10:22:24	+AndrewPH	slack isn't natively irc so it's a little bit messy vs pure irc, but it works pretty well
2016-04-20 10:41:52	+SinZ	can say the same about twitch these days
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2016-04-20 11:15:58	rom1504	Some people connect everything to irc using bitlbee
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2016-04-20 16:28:23	tktech	Slack has a bunch of bridges.
2016-04-20 16:28:30	tktech	Works fine via XMMP and IRC
2016-04-20 16:28:34	tktech	(I use bitlbee)
2016-04-20 16:28:54	tktech	BetterThanHipchat(TM)
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2016-04-20 16:57:47	edk	it doesn't work fine via IRC
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2016-04-20 16:58:05	tktech	I'm literally using it right now :|
2016-04-20 16:58:22	edk	i mean, clearly it does work via IRC, but there's quite a lot wrong with it
2016-04-20 16:58:47	edk	so i don't think i'd say "works fine", more like "is approximately usable"
2016-04-20 17:07:30	tktech	I guess depending on how much you want to use it. I tend not to care about the cat gifs and slash commands
2016-04-20 17:07:38	tktech	So I lose nothing
2016-04-20 17:11:06	dx	edk: what's so wrong about it?
2016-04-20 17:11:41	edk	mostly the way it mangles links
2016-04-20 17:12:32	dx	huh?
2016-04-20 17:13:40	dx	links look good here
2016-04-20 17:14:24	edk	people say things with links in them, and on the IRC gateway they come out mangled
2016-04-20 17:14:35	edk	sometimes one of the mangled pieces works
2016-04-20 17:15:19	tktech	wut
2016-04-20 17:15:29	tktech	Something be broken somewhere in your setup
2016-04-20 17:15:33	tktech	Works totally fine for me
2016-04-20 17:15:48	edk	i don't have a setup, i just connect to slack's irc gateway
2016-04-20 17:15:57	edk	well, except i don't any more because it was too annoying
2016-04-20 17:16:12	dx	hmm, could it be links with &amp; in them?
2016-04-20 17:16:14	edk	the way it translates things like :) to :simple_smile: by default is also pretty irritating
2016-04-20 17:16:40	edk	possibly. i don't remember the exact conditions because i gave up on it
2016-04-20 17:17:13	edk	but basically it'd try to turn the link into "text" (like http google com, but usually there'd be some url-looking stuff left) and then a URL to click on
2016-04-20 17:17:55	dx	how long ago was this?
2016-04-20 17:17:56	edk	but for whatever reason it often messed up extracting the URL to click on too
2016-04-20 17:18:12	edk	a few months ago, maybe
2016-04-20 17:21:11	edk	also, if its built-in file uploading thing is wgettable, i wasn't able to figure out how
2016-04-20 17:22:25	hansihe	the gateway works fine for me, still not a fan though
2016-04-20 17:22:48	hansihe	the most annoying part is that you have to ask the owner of the slack to enable it if they haven't already
2016-04-20 17:22:53	edk	yeah
2016-04-20 17:23:17	edk	the gateway is how i'd choose to use slack, but it's not a step up from IRC by any means
2016-04-20 17:25:43	edk	also it really sucks how isolated slacks are, and if you're a company and isolation is very important, not giving your data to slack is also probably important
2016-04-20 17:47:44	Not-b880	[mc4p] sadimusi pushed 1 commit to 2.0 [+1/-0/±8] https://git.io/vwnBa
2016-04-20 17:47:46	Not-b880	[mc4p] Simon Marti ab33d8e - Added JoinGame and UpdateSign packets (plus a few minor fixes)
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2016-04-20 18:16:13	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/j4shnv3
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2016-04-20 18:25:47	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/j83fx5b
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2016-04-20 18:58:38	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Minecraft Forge Handshake -> http://tinyurl.com/hezb9g8
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2016-04-20 20:55:56	Not-b880	[steven] Scetch pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vwcJd
2016-04-20 20:55:57	Not-b880	[steven] Scetch 7588b20 - Block fixes and some cleanup.
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2016-04-20 22:29:53	Momo	Does anyone understand how elytra mechanics work? What exactly is handled by the client and the server? Also, why is there a "Start Flying" action but not a 
2016-04-20 22:30:01	Momo	*stop flying action
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2016-04-20 22:33:25	__0x277F	Momo, the animation is the only thing handled by the client as far as I know.
2016-04-20 22:34:04	+XorBoole	my expert, educated guess is that the client just sends movement packets and the server verifies them
2016-04-20 22:34:13	+Amaranth	"verifies"
2016-04-20 22:34:20	+XorBoole	you know what I mean
2016-04-20 22:34:40	__0x277F	I made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhbWVbR4EBA as a demo a while back when I made the spigot api for it.
2016-04-20 22:34:44	+XorBoole	obviously we need delta_x to be small
2016-04-20 22:38:17	Momo	__0x277F: then what is the meaning of "Start Flying" (0x14, action 8). The client must somehow detect that the player is starting to glide, no?
2016-04-20 22:38:59	+XorBoole	is that a play out?
2016-04-20 22:39:02	__0x277F	That flag is added to the data watcher, then it's removed when the elytra is taken off
2016-04-20 22:39:05	__0x277F	That's all I know
2016-04-20 22:48:17	+Thinkofname	XorBoole: 99% sure it just disabled the anti-fly check when you are flying with them
2016-04-20 22:48:42	+XorBoole	classic
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2016-04-20 22:56:32	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname pushed 3 commits to master [+1/-0/±4] https://git.io/vwcE0
2016-04-20 22:56:33	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname 94bfc14 - Make the storage system used for chunk sections reusable
2016-04-20 22:56:35	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname 23e779c - Make BlockSnapshots use BlockStorage
2016-04-20 22:56:36	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname bb5032f - Remove the steven_id system
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2016-04-20 23:17:19	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname ebc1122 - Fix the player's body glitching when moving
2016-04-20 23:18:31	Gjum	Momo: when you fall, you don't fly until you hit space while in mid-air. that sends start flying. there is no stop flying, you just stop when you're on the ground.
2016-04-20 23:19:48	Gjum	that's for the game mechanics, my guess for responsibilities would be the client does physics and the server might do some checks.
2016-04-20 23:20:42	yawkat	As is tradition. 
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2016-04-21 01:13:17	Akaibu	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Qo4FyiNr/
2016-04-21 01:13:29	Akaibu	anyone know whats casuing this shiz?
2016-04-21 01:14:55	hansihe	context? that's obviously from a mod
2016-04-21 01:15:28	Akaibu	its just the protocol modded client i was screwing around with yesterday 
2016-04-21 01:16:34	Akaibu	was doing alot of crash log dumping yesterday revolving around it, beacause its not really just a modded issue
2016-04-21 01:16:44	Akaibu	still trying to look into this though
2016-04-21 01:17:20	Akaibu	maybe if i turn on vbo via the files?
2016-04-21 01:17:31	Akaibu	that seems what works according to a few sites
2016-04-21 01:24:36	Akaibu	strange, the crash logs keep saying i don't have VBOs enabled, but i do...
2016-04-21 01:26:30	Akaibu	actually, it looks like it could have been tthe cause of the "blink" hack
2016-04-21 01:26:47	Akaibu	and bingo, it works
2016-04-21 01:36:15	Akaibu	apperentlly someone on the 2b2t server got pigs to fly now
2016-04-21 01:36:26	rom1504	sounds good
2016-04-21 01:37:11	rom1504	they need to make the dragon walk now
2016-04-21 01:37:32	Akaibu	oh hey rom1504, don't suppose you would recognize me with this nick,  im pokeball99 from back when i was on the mineflayer gitter
2016-04-21 01:37:56	Akaibu	rom1504: and i'm talking about the boat fly hack thats in 1.9
2016-04-21 01:43:16	rom1504	okay
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2016-04-21 12:42:00	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±11] https://git.io/vwCbG
2016-04-21 12:42:02	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname 380a844 - Implement a background for the option menus
2016-04-21 12:42:03	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname edf6f34 - Separate the console and console vars. Removes the need to lock on the console to read vars
2016-04-21 12:44:11	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vwCbw
2016-04-21 12:44:12	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname 50ded11 - Remove a leftover comment
2016-04-21 12:53:02	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vwCNh
2016-04-21 12:53:03	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname a28152e - Link to the master branch for downloads The previous link would show PRs as well.
2016-04-21 13:01:55	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vwCxs
2016-04-21 13:01:57	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname f8f60b9 - Update the screenshot in the README
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2016-04-21 14:09:55	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname feb7ea1 - Fix a crash caused by duplicate block mappings
2016-04-21 14:09:57	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname df37ec2 - Handle errors when fetching skins better
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2016-04-21 15:17:09	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname d719e11 - Work around a block mapping bug
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2016-04-21 21:26:30	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname 9842267 - Add block targeting
2016-04-21 21:26:32	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname 9c816c7 - Implement interaction with blocks
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2016-04-21 22:22:13	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname 3038596 - Simplify chunk loading
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2016-04-21 22:48:11	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname 287867d - Add a collidable flag to Material
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2016-04-21 23:40:06	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname 2cc00f0 - Implement collisions for stairs
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2016-04-21 23:42:35	Momo	How does the server update clients for another player unmounting a vehicle (client->server=steer vehicule with flag, server->other clients= ???)
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2016-04-22 00:06:26	pokechu22	Momo: The "Set passangers" packet?
2016-04-22 00:07:26	pokechu22	If I recall correctly that's used with a 0-length passanger list to dismount.
2016-04-22 00:09:37	Momo	I tried that, didn't work apparently. I'll try to see if it's on my end though
2016-04-22 00:15:22	Momo	How can I send a packet to "expel" the client from the vehicule? (server->riding client) 
2016-04-22 00:15:55	pokechu22	That should also be "Set passangers"...  I've got it working with cuberite at least.
2016-04-22 00:16:10	pokechu22	You sure you have the right packet ID and don't have any typos like that?
2016-04-22 00:17:20	Momo	I don't think so. It's like the Set passengers works with other clients, but not with the riding client itself...
2016-04-22 00:17:40	pokechu22	May I see your code?
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2016-04-22 00:21:29	Momo	I don't think that's it's related to my code, it's more to the packets I am sending from the server (using vanilla client). What I am doing is (I can check from the Vanilla MCP client that the packets are received correctly): client sends steering with unmount, server sends Set passengers to all players (and the riding client) with empty array, other clients see the player as unmounted, the riding player still tries to "steer" as he mo
2016-04-22 00:24:53	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vw8fE
2016-04-22 00:24:54	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname 5f725a8 - Teleport entities when they are far from their target position
2016-04-22 00:26:01	pokechu22	You're using the vehicle's ID with set passangers, right?  (And not the player?)
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2016-04-22 01:02:23	Not-b880	[steven] Thinkofname b0c54a3 - Don't leak the block targeting model when disconnecting from a server
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2016-04-22 01:31:56	Not-29aa	[wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Protocol version numbers -> http://tinyurl.com/j8v8gkn
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2016-04-22 03:29:24	Akaibu	anyone know how it would be possible to lag a server with the tab complete packet?
2016-04-22 03:30:00	Akaibu	(was told this was why something was blocked from 2b2t, don't exactly see how that works)
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2016-04-22 04:57:37	Akaibu	hmm, strange, messing around with http://rednuht.org/genetic_cars_2/ and am starting to get frame drops/ latency with it after running it for awhile, and its not a mem usage afaik
2016-04-22 04:58:12	Akaibu	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/k33X9o6m/
2016-04-22 04:58:45	Akaibu	thats the "save" i have for it, which doesn't account for lag as far as i can tell
2016-04-22 04:59:23	Akaibu	(that goes into "cw_savedGeneration" into local storage if anyone wants to try this)
2016-04-22 04:59:58	Akaibu	sorry if i treat this room as a bug report center, i'll stop if its really much of an issue
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2016-04-22 06:16:26	+XorBoole	in 1.8 -> 1.9, the client no longer sends packets when it right-clicks air with empty hand, correct?
2016-04-22 06:16:50	+XorBoole	if this is false, I'm either insane or being trolled
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2016-04-22 06:29:46	ecx86	1. open ur mcp
2016-04-22 06:30:02	ecx86	2. addToSendQueue. hook it and add a print statement
2016-04-22 06:30:05	ecx86	3. ???????
2016-04-22 06:30:06	ecx86	4. profit
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2016-04-22 08:03:32	hansihe	XorBoole: yeah, i am seeing the same thing i think
2016-04-22 08:06:41	+md_5	XorBoole it has never done that reliably
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2016-04-22 14:49:34	+XorBoole	md_5 such a shame
2016-04-22 15:09:32	+Amaranth	I didn't know the client ever did that period
2016-04-22 15:09:46	+Amaranth	As far as I'm aware it never has
2016-04-22 15:10:39	+Amaranth	And if it ever did the server had a check for it which would cause it to immediately discard the packet
2016-04-22 15:24:51	yawkat	didnt it just do that when you have an item in hand
2016-04-22 15:26:32	+Amaranth	Right, the server has some logic where if right click and itemInHand == null it returns early
2016-04-22 15:26:51	+Amaranth	So even if the client would send a packet in that case, which afaik it never has, the server would silently drop it
2016-04-22 15:27:23	+Amaranth	Anyway, that doesn't work, sorry :P
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2016-04-22 16:34:30	+XorBoole	Amaranth the notchian client *used to*, and g__m wrote something that killed the packet early
2016-04-22 16:34:43	+XorBoole	I worked around it for a while, but looks like they killed that behavior
2016-04-22 16:34:56	+XorBoole	not surprising given the bizarre to-handedness going on now
2016-04-22 16:35:02	+Amaranth	It didn't in 1.2, it didn't in 1.3, it didn't in 1.7
2016-04-22 16:35:23	+Amaranth	If it did in some other version I'd be surprised but I didn't check them
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2016-04-22 16:46:29	+XorBoole	Amaranth well, I know for a *fact* that it used to do it at some point, but meh
2016-04-22 16:46:43	+XorBoole	the broken functionality is fixable
2016-04-22 16:46:52	+XorBoole	oh wait, no, I lied
2016-04-22 16:47:29	+XorBoole	so here's the interesting thing: the client will send it if it thinks there's an item, but the server will kill it if there's no item serverside
2016-04-22 16:47:39	+XorBoole	today in: Xor doesn't read his own hacky code
2016-04-22 16:50:27	+XorBoole	"// Massive hack to get around mojang being clever."
2016-04-22 16:50:31	+XorBoole	yes, that explains it
2016-04-22 16:50:47	+XorBoole	read: "massive hack"
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2016-04-22 18:13:00	+Thinkofname	http://wiki.vg/Game_files#Assets Did the indexes get a new location too (like the jars) or are they still stuck on s3?
2016-04-22 18:14:04	+Thinkofname	A quick poke at the launcher jar seems to suggest no
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2016-04-22 18:18:31	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-22 18:20:23	-->	dexter0 (~dexter0@c-73-222-1-210.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-22 19:13:07	<--	fortytwo (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2016-04-22 19:13:24	-->	fortytwo (~thomas@205.185.117.105) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-22 19:13:58	<--	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Max SendQ exceeded)
2016-04-22 19:15:32	<--	Techcable (Techcable@167.114.113.181) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-04-22 19:19:03	-->	Techcable (Techcable@2607:5300:100:200::1290) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-22 19:19:44	<--	dexter0 (~dexter0@c-73-222-1-210.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-04-22 19:21:25	-->	trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-22 19:21:37	-->	dexter0 (~dexter0@c-73-222-1-210.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-22 20:11:56	<--	KeithGS (~keith@znc6.keithbmiller.com) a quitté (Quit: Quit)
2016-04-22 20:12:04	-->	KeithGS (~keith@znc6.keithbmiller.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-04-22 20:16:25	-->	Black-Hole (~BlackHole@p5DD3F7C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs