2016-03-04 01:36:40 --> ryan-c (~ryan@srv1.turboslow.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 01:37:01 <-- ryan-c (~ryan@srv1.turboslow.net) a quitté (Excess Flood) 2016-03-04 01:39:51 <-- Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xzqmmuxexphrvuws) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-03-04 01:43:47 --> ryan-c (~ryan@srv1.turboslow.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 01:51:38 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 01:55:43 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-04 01:58:20 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/jxj4ja6 2016-03-04 01:59:59 --> Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wucvrbqbxsqcjwqy) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 02:05:18 <-- Jckf (jckf@mikros.flaten.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-04 02:05:41 --> Jckf (jckf@mikros.flaten.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 02:30:00 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/zu5jh8c 2016-03-04 02:39:04 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@217.160.135.244) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-04 02:55:23 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/h2sla6p 2016-03-04 03:08:02 -- Aikar_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Aikar 2016-03-04 03:08:02 <-- Aikar (~Aikar@web01.starlis.com) a quitté (Changing host) 2016-03-04 03:08:02 --> Aikar (~Aikar@wikia/Aikar) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 03:10:52 -- Aikar est maintenant connu sous le nom Aikar_ 2016-03-04 03:11:00 -- Aikar_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Aikar 2016-03-04 03:11:17 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by L3ctric to Server List -> http://tinyurl.com/zqamhuz 2016-03-04 03:35:10 <-- Sudzzy (~Sudzzy@46.23.68.74) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-04 03:49:45 <-- ryan-c (~ryan@srv1.turboslow.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-04 03:52:17 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 03:56:57 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2016-03-04 04:00:17 --> ryan-c (~ryan@srv1.turboslow.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 04:12:06 <-- pokechu22 (32234853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.72.83) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-04 04:22:32 Momo Hey, does the server need to send any data to Mojang's servers when authing (when sending to https://sessionserver.mojang.com/session/minecraft/hasJoined?username=username&serverId=hash)? 2016-03-04 04:33:15 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2016-03-04 05:04:20 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 05:23:31 <-- Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-04 05:25:52 --> Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 05:35:57 --> marvnfl (640d1a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.100.13.26.39) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 05:36:20 marvnfl MC|BOpen was removed in 1.9? 2016-03-04 05:43:12 --> Jumla_ (~Wynncraft@24-177-230-202.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 05:45:59 <-- Jumla (~Wynncraft@24-177-230-202.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2016-03-04 05:53:46 <-- levifig (~levi@hakr.io) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-03-04 05:57:36 --> levifig (~levi@hakr.io) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 06:10:56 --> redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@p57952D4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 06:10:56 <-- redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@p57952D4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Changing host) 2016-03-04 06:10:56 --> redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 06:13:06 <-- redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-03-04 06:13:06 -- redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper 2016-03-04 06:18:43 <-- Morrolan (morrolan@castle.morrolan.ch) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-04 06:22:40 --> Morrolan (morrolan@castle.morrolan.ch) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 06:24:31 <-- Jumla_ (~Wynncraft@24-177-230-202.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-04 06:29:10 <-- benbaptist_ (~benbaptis@c-50-178-138-73.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-04 06:29:10 <-- benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-178-138-73.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-04 06:29:17 --> benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-178-138-73.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 06:30:34 --> benbaptist_ (~benbaptis@c-50-178-138-73.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 06:36:38 <-- marvnfl (640d1a27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.100.13.26.39) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2016-03-04 06:49:51 <-- Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wucvrbqbxsqcjwqy) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-03-04 07:12:43 Momo I would be very glad if someone could help me with this auth issue =) https://gist.github.com/MOMOTHEREAL/8da93660383dc8ed6d15 2016-03-04 07:46:23 Momo Nevermind, fixed it. 2016-03-04 07:51:38 --> woder_ (~IceChat9@ip-24-156-181-19.user.start.ca) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 07:52:13 <-- woder (~IceChat9@ip-24-156-181-19.user.start.ca) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-04 07:52:46 <-- Brandon15811 (~Brandon15@195-154-68-209.rev.poneytelecom.eu) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-04 07:56:43 --> Brandon15811 (~Brandon15@195-154-68-209.rev.poneytelecom.eu) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 08:12:40 <-- Momo (68dd50ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.221.80.173) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2016-03-04 08:19:37 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 08:32:43 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-04 08:43:11 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 09:17:22 rom15044 Momo:https://github.com/Thinkofname/steven/tree/master/protocol 2016-03-04 09:17:57 rom15044 And yes you definitely should use/create a lib if you want to handle the whole Minecraft protocol 2016-03-04 10:41:56 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-03-04 10:53:17 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-04 11:06:28 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 11:18:00 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 11:23:43 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-04 14:00:29 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 14:04:07 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a quitté (Client Quit) 2016-03-04 14:08:35 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 14:29:19 --> Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zotfbbjclehkspsm) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 14:30:32 --> Sigfrid (~nova@207-175-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 15:00:52 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2016-03-04 15:01:31 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a quitté (Quit: configs break either often or when you heavily rely on them) 2016-03-04 15:01:43 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 15:02:58 <-- Sigfrid (~nova@207-175-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-04 15:07:24 --> Sigfrid (~nova@207-175-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 15:08:16 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a quitté (Quit: configs break either often or when you heavily rely on them) 2016-03-04 15:13:51 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 15:14:11 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a quitté (Client Quit) 2016-03-04 15:14:55 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 15:31:15 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-04 15:31:53 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 15:36:42 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2016-03-04 15:42:54 --> M4GNV5 (~M4GNV5@p5498946C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 15:53:03 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 16:15:16 <-- aeonchild (enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-04 16:21:23 --> aeonchild (enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 16:49:23 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-04 16:53:44 <-- Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zotfbbjclehkspsm) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-03-04 16:54:04 --> Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spxsxbtglkguzfby) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 17:00:07 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-04 17:14:14 Akaibu anyone know if their is a minecraft rendering system in python already made? 2016-03-04 17:15:54 M4GNV5 according to http://wiki.vg/Client_List no 2016-03-04 17:16:14 Akaibu been looking in the github area 2016-03-04 17:16:21 Akaibu lot of stuff there tbh 2016-03-04 17:16:32 Akaibu but can't find what i'm looking for 2016-03-04 17:16:32 Akaibu yet 2016-03-04 17:16:56 Akaibu i had already checked that list though, thanks M4GNV5 2016-03-04 17:17:52 Akaibu wait,M4GNV5 aren't you the one that made that javascript/typescript to commandblock thing? or is that another person 2016-03-04 17:27:22 +ammar2 I made a renderer in python years ago, don't remember where the code is 2016-03-04 17:27:33 +ammar2 it didn't have lighting and ran really poorly though so probably wouldn't be much help 2016-03-04 17:31:07 rom1504 "javascript/typescript to commandblock" what's that 2016-03-04 17:31:20 rom1504 compiling js to minecraft commands ? 2016-03-04 17:31:26 rom1504 (what a terrible idea) 2016-03-04 17:32:03 +ammar2 there's js transpilers for everything 2016-03-04 17:32:06 +ammar2 what's another language 2016-03-04 17:36:50 Akaibu https://github.com/M4GNV5?tab=repositories yea he did alot of X language to commandblock stuff that i haven't seen since i last saw it 2016-03-04 17:42:48 rom1504 I see 2016-03-04 18:04:24 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 18:40:20 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-03-04 19:09:26 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 19:09:26 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2016-03-04 19:23:57 M4GNV5 lol am i famous now? :O 2016-03-04 19:24:10 M4GNV5 didnt know my repos are known by anyone haha 2016-03-04 19:31:15 Sigfrid Guys I recently bought a hosting for 1 year (big reseller package ) ... anybody needs hosting? free of course... I am not selling... Its just for take the best of the free resources.. (hentai and general porn is not allowed) 2016-03-04 19:31:56 rom1504 "Get 3 Sugar Cane, 4 Rabbit Hide, 2 Diamond, 4 Obsidian then craft in order 1 Leather, 3 Paper, 1 Book, 1 Enchantment Table" 2016-03-04 19:31:59 rom1504 http://rom1504.github.io/web-minecraft-crafter/ 2016-03-04 19:32:05 rom1504 recipe path finder :) 2016-03-04 19:36:11 <-- Sigfrid (~nova@207-175-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) a quitté (Quit: Leaving) 2016-03-04 19:37:49 M4GNV5 rom1504, it needs images ;) 2016-03-04 19:40:55 rom1504 definitely, that's what I'm doing next 2016-03-04 19:41:03 rom1504 going to display the recipes too 2016-03-04 19:41:23 rom1504 I have the recipes info, but I need images to display it nicely 2016-03-04 19:43:20 M4GNV5 prismarine-js 's minecraft-data doesnt include images? 2016-03-04 19:43:33 M4GNV5 maybe its the time for you to add it ;) 2016-03-04 19:44:14 rom1504 yeah we have an open issue about it, https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/issues/78 , I'm going to solve it now I think 2016-03-04 19:44:57 rom1504 (even if solving doesn't mean actually putting the images in the repo but just putting the mojang image file names or something) 2016-03-04 19:57:14 M4GNV5 hmmm yeah sounds reasonable, i guess otherwise you might get into legal trouble 2016-03-04 19:59:20 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/hawt64b 2016-03-04 20:01:03 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 20:16:13 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/jfztaf3 2016-03-04 20:17:24 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Pre-release protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/jm2axpv 2016-03-04 20:21:43 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/zaypyh5 2016-03-04 20:21:45 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/hc65q38 2016-03-04 20:28:09 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/jsmqmea 2016-03-04 20:34:23 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-03-04 20:35:24 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 20:35:24 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2016-03-04 20:36:40 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/j9gz5wa 2016-03-04 20:42:04 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Pre-release protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/hvjy72x 2016-03-04 20:42:05 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/z8szksl 2016-03-04 20:43:15 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Pre-release protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/h57t2a7 2016-03-04 20:44:26 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/gogo8f6 2016-03-04 20:45:37 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/jownqqn 2016-03-04 20:52:02 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Template:See also -> http://tinyurl.com/hhmw36c 2016-03-04 20:54:16 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/jrfxczz 2016-03-04 20:54:17 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/zxx9dv6 2016-03-04 20:57:32 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/jahwa3z 2016-03-04 20:59:52 --> AlphaBlend (~whizkid30@pool-71-118-183-40.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 21:03:01 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/hclgcwv 2016-03-04 21:08:21 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/hrkhny4 2016-03-04 21:16:50 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/h94zdd3 2016-03-04 21:18:54 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-03-04 21:22:08 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 21:22:08 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2016-03-04 21:23:13 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/gt8lfh3 2016-03-04 21:30:38 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/hw8enye 2016-03-04 21:32:51 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/zjwja74 2016-03-04 21:35:03 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/z4de6mx 2016-03-04 21:37:24 Fenhl edit spam \o/ 2016-03-04 21:41:25 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/jzn84ne 2016-03-04 21:41:48 <-- robbie0630 (~robbie063@45-23-26-153.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-04 21:43:07 rom1504 very edit much protocol 2016-03-04 21:59:39 --> ProdigyOG (~Prodigy@75-129-199-62.dhcp.sllv.mo.charter.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 22:01:44 <-- ProdigyOG (~Prodigy@75-129-199-62.dhcp.sllv.mo.charter.com) a quitté (Client Quit) 2016-03-04 22:08:39 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to File:Banner beta.png -> http://tinyurl.com/jj6pdha 2016-03-04 22:09:48 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to File:Banner beta.png -> http://tinyurl.com/jj6pdha 2016-03-04 22:11:11 Fenhl that's a huge image :/ 2016-03-04 22:12:25 <-- brandon__ (~brandon15@ip98-181-10-159.br.br.cox.net) a quitté (Quit: Leaving) 2016-03-04 22:14:05 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to File:Banner beta.png -> http://tinyurl.com/zmmn32j 2016-03-04 22:19:25 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/hrkrtlw 2016-03-04 22:20:35 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to File:Banner beta.png -> http://tinyurl.com/jj6pdha 2016-03-04 22:21:19 Fenhl (if you're seeing a squished version of Ingrim4's image, clear your cache) 2016-03-04 22:21:44 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to File:Banner beta.png -> http://tinyurl.com/hoxy8fc 2016-03-04 22:26:01 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Pre-release protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/jaek7pe 2016-03-04 22:33:24 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/gsx2bnt 2016-03-04 22:36:26 Fenhl wat 2016-03-04 22:37:42 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/jdpheot 2016-03-04 22:37:52 tktech_ "Fight, fight fight!" 2016-03-04 22:38:55 rom1504 I'm not sure if he's aware we're talking about 1.9 2016-03-04 22:39:29 rom1504 well idk 2016-03-04 22:39:39 Fenhl you know Ingrim4? 2016-03-04 22:39:46 rom1504 no 2016-03-04 22:40:18 rom1504 just saying his last edit to Entities look like he was trying to revert to 1.8 2016-03-04 22:40:46 rom1504 well, a little bit 2016-03-04 22:42:02 Fenhl ah, I figured since you seem to know pronouns 2016-03-04 22:51:35 rom1504 I meant "wiki.vg" by "we" 2016-03-04 23:09:53 --> Sigfrid (~nova@186.137.127.30) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-04 23:46:07 <-- bildramer (~bildramer@p5DC8ADCC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Quit: there is no antimemetics division) 2016-03-04 23:49:25 --> bildramer (~bildramer@p5DC8ADCC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 00:07:28 --> barneygale_ (~barneygal@176.248.216.93) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 00:18:27 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-05 00:34:11 <-- Sigfrid (~nova@186.137.127.30) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-05 00:38:49 --> pokechu22 (32234853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.72.83) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 01:06:13 <-- barneygale_ (~barneygal@176.248.216.93) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-05 01:06:59 --> barneygale_ (~barneygal@176.248.216.93) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 01:56:33 <-- barneygale_ (~barneygal@176.248.216.93) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2016-03-05 01:57:13 --> barneygale_ (~barneygal@2.218.69.120) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 01:58:28 Not-8b17 [flying-squid] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/v2bls 2016-03-05 01:58:29 Not-8b17 [flying-squid] rom1504 a17f47c - if the generation module is not on the array, try to require it : dynamic generation handling ! 2016-03-05 01:59:55 <-- Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spxsxbtglkguzfby) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-03-05 02:21:20 rom1504 https://download.rom1504.fr/minecraft/mc-voxel-worldgen-rust.png hansihe's rust voxel-worldgen is now used both in js and elixir :D 2016-03-05 02:21:36 hansihe \o/ 2016-03-05 02:40:39 barneygale_ hold shit hans 2016-03-05 02:47:06 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:8149:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a quitté (Quit: configs break either often or when you heavily rely on them) 2016-03-05 02:55:37 barneygale_ holy* even 2016-03-05 02:56:27 hansihe that was almost an insult 2016-03-05 02:56:56 hansihe :) 2016-03-05 03:01:52 Meeeh_ http://imgur.com/f9SKYxi nah, they broke animation of bow if used from off-hand 2016-03-05 03:01:57 -- Meeeh_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Meeeh 2016-03-05 03:12:10 <-- barneygale_ (~barneygal@2.218.69.120) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-05 03:29:39 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 03:32:11 <-- Hafydd (~Hafydd@unaffiliated/joo) a quitté #mcdevs 2016-03-05 03:35:43 pokechu22 BRB - running MCP and it's using up almost all of my RAM; I need to close this for the moment... 2016-03-05 03:35:46 <-- pokechu22 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Ingrim4_ (~chatzilla@s17767828.onlinehome-server.info) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 11:13:36 <-- Ingrim4_ (~chatzilla@s17767828.onlinehome-server.info) a quitté (Client Quit) 2016-03-05 11:14:07 --> Ingrim4_ (~chatzilla@p200300461B32A974F97FA3E59EE612A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 11:15:32 <-- Ingrim4 (~chatzilla@p200300461B32A974F97FA3E59EE612A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-05 11:15:32 -- Ingrim4_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Ingrim4 2016-03-05 11:29:51 <-- Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ctyfampwgjajovyg) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-03-05 12:15:29 --> Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:5c07:e472:bf36:7b8b) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 13:41:15 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 13:45:41 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-03-05 14:17:50 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 14:31:21 <-- SinZ (~SinZ@101.160.130.156) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-05 14:31:56 --> SinZ (~SinZ@CPE-120-144-17-160.lnse5.win.bigpond.net.au) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 14:31:56 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SinZ] par ChanServ 2016-03-05 14:40:56 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/z8sqdzu 2016-03-05 14:58:45 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/zun27dg 2016-03-05 15:10:55 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2016-03-05 15:16:34 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/zxn85my 2016-03-05 15:36:32 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Ingrim4 to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/hdehhbk 2016-03-05 16:30:05 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:72::2) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 16:38:09 --> M4GNV5 (~M4GNV5@p549881E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 16:41:06 <-- Ingrim4 (~chatzilla@p200300461B32A974F97FA3E59EE612A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.4/20160105164030]) 2016-03-05 16:58:22 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 17:04:24 <-- NathanWolf (~NathanWol@216-235-101-HCC-80.hcc.net) a quitté (Quit: NathanWolf) 2016-03-05 17:08:10 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Quit: Sleep) 2016-03-05 17:11:18 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 17:25:16 --> Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-grynlzwnbmrdctph) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 17:25:27 --> javaprophet (~javaproph@2601:647:ca02:f4d0:45fb:fe12:21d2:41b2) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 17:25:49 javaprophet Does anyone know why the Set Passengers (0x40) packet doesn't have a count for it's array? 2016-03-05 17:42:52 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 17:47:32 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-05 17:53:05 Gjum javaprophet: maybe it's always length 1 and when its not you know it from earlier packets, eg. the boat that can have 2 passengers has these 2 bool fields 2016-03-05 17:53:55 +Dinnerbone It's a standard array type, which has a length. 2016-03-05 17:54:00 javaprophet Yes, that could make sense. It could also be directly linked to the entity ID referenced. 2016-03-05 17:54:43 javaprophet It's not noted on the wiki, http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Set_Passengers 2016-03-05 17:55:21 rom1504 javaprophet: yes it is 2016-03-05 17:55:29 rom1504 "Only if Mode = 0 or 3 or 4. Number of players in the array" 2016-03-05 17:55:41 rom1504 http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Set_Passengers 2016-03-05 17:55:42 +Dinnerbone You're looking at Teams. 2016-03-05 17:55:51 rom1504 ah right 2016-03-05 17:55:57 javaprophet Yep 2016-03-05 17:56:15 rom1504 well anyway, it's just the count that is missing then 2016-03-05 17:56:21 rom1504 in the wiki I mean 2016-03-05 17:56:33 javaprophet Alright, I'll add it in. 2016-03-05 17:57:07 javaprophet Fenhl, I'm going to add a count to Set Passengers on Pre-Release Protocol 2016-03-05 17:57:45 Fenhl okay, go ahead 2016-03-05 17:57:54 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:72::2) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2016-03-05 18:00:04 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Javaprophet to Pre-release protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/gsxy8yn 2016-03-05 18:01:09 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Javaprophet to Pre-release protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/gotu5en 2016-03-05 18:08:19 Fenhl can anyone explain what the notes on Entity Relative Move are supposed to mean? 2016-03-05 18:08:38 Fenhl it says Delta X is calculated as (currentX * 32 - prevX * 32) * 128 2016-03-05 18:09:07 javaprophet I had an idea that they made the Fixed Point more precise, IE to get the actual value divide by 128*32. 2016-03-05 18:09:21 javaprophet They also increased the size so it would make sense. 2016-03-05 18:09:27 rom1504 yes 2016-03-05 18:09:34 -- Guest79896 est maintenant connu sous le nom __0x277F 2016-03-05 18:09:36 rom1504 and the change I made (4 -> 1024) is wrong 2016-03-05 18:09:37 <-- __0x277F (~knm@bryn.justinwflory.com) a quitté (Changing host) 2016-03-05 18:09:37 --> __0x277F (~knm@unaffiliated/--0x277f/x-3357507) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 18:09:41 Fenhl but why write it like this? You could simply write it as (currentX - prevX) * 4096 2016-03-05 18:09:57 rom1504 I thought they increased the range of the move, but it's just for precision apparently 2016-03-05 18:11:12 rom1504 Fenhl: yeah I think that's the same thing 2016-03-05 18:11:16 Fenhl someone please figure this out so I can merge a coherent packet documentation 2016-03-05 18:21:37 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Quit: Sleep) 2016-03-05 18:34:38 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 18:39:20 +Thinkofname Grum: minor thing, the DataWatcher (or whatever you call it) writes the type of an entry as a varint and reads it as a byte. Not an issue in practice though 2016-03-05 18:47:54 <-- javaprophet (~javaproph@2601:647:ca02:f4d0:45fb:fe12:21d2:41b2) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-05 18:47:58 --> ecx_ (~ecx86@unaffiliated/ecx86) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 18:51:15 <-- ecx86 (~ecx86@unaffiliated/ecx86) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-05 19:03:18 --> ecx86 (~ecx86@unaffiliated/ecx86) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 19:04:46 <-- ecx_ (~ecx86@unaffiliated/ecx86) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2016-03-05 19:21:29 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-03-05 19:43:43 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 19:44:50 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Quit: Sleep) 2016-03-05 19:48:27 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-05 19:56:17 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 20:28:54 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/gq79jwx 2016-03-05 20:32:05 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/z58ysvz 2016-03-05 20:55:15 rom1504 seems quite tedious to do that merging 2016-03-05 21:10:14 --> web1509 (4a464870@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.70.72.112) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 21:16:55 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/jnkou5k 2016-03-05 21:18:00 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Fenhl to Pre-release protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/h8yrvts 2016-03-05 21:18:46 web1509 Hello 2016-03-05 21:19:56 web1509 Is there a bundled archive of every page on the wiki available anywhere? 2016-03-05 21:20:59 Fenhl you would have to ask tktech_ to provide one 2016-03-05 21:23:12 rom1504 web1509: you can do that https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Export#Using_.27Special:Export.27 2016-03-05 21:24:34 Fenhl huh 2016-03-05 21:24:36 Fenhl TIL 2016-03-05 21:24:43 rom1504 http://wiki.vg/Special:AllPages + http://wiki.vg/Special:Export 2016-03-05 21:25:47 web1509 I knew MW allowed for something like that, thanks 2016-03-05 21:36:55 --> kamcio96 (~kamcio96@host-81-190-231-34.wroclaw.mm.pl) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 21:44:25 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 21:44:43 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:72::2) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 21:48:39 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2016-03-05 21:51:59 <-- kamcio96 (~kamcio96@host-81-190-231-34.wroclaw.mm.pl) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-03-05 21:52:15 --> kamcio96 (~kamcio96@host-81-190-231-34.wroclaw.mm.pl) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 22:01:48 <-- web1509 (4a464870@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.70.72.112) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2016-03-05 22:02:51 --> kamcio96_ (~kamcio96@host-81-190-231-34.wroclaw.mm.pl) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 22:02:57 <-- kamcio96 (~kamcio96@host-81-190-231-34.wroclaw.mm.pl) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-03-05 22:10:19 <-- kamcio96_ (~kamcio96@host-81-190-231-34.wroclaw.mm.pl) a quitté #mcdevs ("Leaving") 2016-03-05 22:16:06 --> pokechu22 (32234853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.72.83) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 22:38:59 --> Sigfrid (~nova@186.137.127.30) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 23:02:02 pokechu22 Ooh, new plugin channel in 1.9. "Mc|DebugPath". 2016-03-05 23:03:06 pokechu22 And MC|Struct, and MC|PickItem. 2016-03-05 23:09:51 <-- Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-grynlzwnbmrdctph) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-03-05 23:12:31 <-- redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Quit: redstonehelper) 2016-03-05 23:12:50 --> redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 23:19:16 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:72::2) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-05 23:20:39 <-- Brandon15811__ (uid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vumumocthfvarcwc) a quitté (Excess Flood) 2016-03-05 23:21:18 --> Brandon15811__ (uid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-flfgmzwlcgiamtdf) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 23:23:03 --> Gjum (~Gjum@37.120.12.154) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 23:25:43 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-05 23:25:55 <-- AlphaBlend (~whizkid30@pool-71-118-183-40.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-03-05 23:27:16 --> AlphaBlend (~whizkid30@pool-71-118-183-40.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 23:30:37 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@37.120.12.154) a quitté (Quit: configs break either often or when you heavily rely on them) 2016-03-05 23:36:18 <-- ryan-c (~ryan@srv1.turboslow.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-03-05 23:38:00 --> M4GNV5_ (~M4GNV5@p5498841F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 23:40:52 --> ryan-c (~ryan@srv1.turboslow.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 23:41:19 <-- M4GNV5 (~M4GNV5@p549881E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-05 23:45:13 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-05 23:49:58 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-06 00:06:49 <-- Paprikachu (~pap@play2win.io) a quitté (Quit: ZNC 1.6.1+deb1 - http://znc.in) 2016-03-06 00:06:49 <-- JonasOSDever (~jp@play2win.io) a quitté (Quit: *Running away*) 2016-03-06 00:08:34 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 00:30:33 --> JonasOSDever (~jp@2a01:4f8:171:1e8d::2) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 00:31:04 --> Paprikachu (~pap@static.14.156.243.136.clients.your-server.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 00:33:50 --> Gjum (~Gjum@37.120.12.154) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 00:55:13 <-- Paprikachu (~pap@static.14.156.243.136.clients.your-server.de) a quitté (Quit: SIGSEGV) 2016-03-06 00:56:25 --> Paprikachu (~pap@play2win.io) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 01:03:28 <-- Sigfrid (~nova@186.137.127.30) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-06 01:40:04 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-06 01:46:00 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 01:50:30 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2016-03-06 02:38:18 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@37.120.12.154) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-06 03:14:21 --> M4GNV5__ (~M4GNV5@p549898B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 03:17:50 <-- M4GNV5_ (~M4GNV5@p5498841F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-03-06 03:35:31 Fenhl pokechu22: looks like http://wiki.vg/Plugin_channel could use an update 2016-03-06 03:36:02 pokechu22 Yea, I'll do it once I get everything updated with WDL. 2016-03-06 03:37:23 Fenhl awesome 2016-03-06 03:38:15 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 03:46:47 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 03:51:16 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-06 03:56:15 --> Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xqljtilzqgecsbjo) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 04:32:28 <-- M4GNV5__ (~M4GNV5@p549898B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-06 04:51:32 ecx86 so what's changed in the protocol? 2016-03-06 04:51:38 ecx86 also, elytra is client sided right? 2016-03-06 04:54:31 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-06 04:58:43 <-- __0x277F (~knm@unaffiliated/--0x277f/x-3357507) a quitté (Quit: Someone cut a network cable.) 2016-03-06 04:59:35 pokechu22 Everything for the first one, at least packet-id wise 2016-03-06 05:00:17 pokechu22 Here's a page with diffs: http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Pre-release_protocol&oldid=7402 2016-03-06 05:01:35 --> knm (~knm@bryn.justinwflory.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 05:01:35 <-- knm (~knm@bryn.justinwflory.com) a quitté (Changing host) 2016-03-06 05:01:35 --> knm (~knm@unaffiliated/--0x277f/x-3357507) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 05:27:29 -- knm est maintenant connu sous le nom __0x277F 2016-03-06 05:39:21 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 05:47:35 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 05:52:37 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2016-03-06 05:59:55 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2016-03-06 06:08:55 --> redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@p4FCCF08D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 06:08:55 <-- redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@p4FCCF08D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Changing host) 2016-03-06 06:08:55 --> redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 06:11:15 <-- redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-06 06:11:15 -- redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper 2016-03-06 06:19:52 <-- Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xqljtilzqgecsbjo) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-03-06 06:20:35 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-03-06 06:24:44 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Plugin channel -> http://tinyurl.com/zd9xxx5 2016-03-06 06:25:06 pokechu22 MC|DebugPath is complicated. And I've got no clue exactly what it is doing... 2016-03-06 06:30:05 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-03-06 06:42:53 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 06:58:28 <-- ecx86 (~ecx86@unaffiliated/ecx86) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-06 07:03:00 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 07:03:00 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2016-03-06 07:11:29 --> ecx_ (~ecx86@unaffiliated/ecx86) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 07:23:00 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-06 07:25:32 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Plugin channel -> http://tinyurl.com/zvl432u 2016-03-06 07:29:44 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to How to Write a Client -> http://tinyurl.com/he453v3 2016-03-06 07:35:36 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 07:48:24 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 07:52:40 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-06 08:32:10 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 08:36:31 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-06 08:53:07 <-- pokechu22 (32234853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.72.83) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2016-03-06 09:16:18 --> Jailout2000 (~Jailout20@unaffiliated/jailout2000) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 09:39:42 --> morfin60 (~morfin@morfin.telenet.ru) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 09:39:43 <-- morfin (~morfin@morfin.telenet.ru) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-06 09:49:16 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 09:54:02 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-06 10:06:27 <-- fortytwo (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-06 10:07:33 <-- Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-03-06 10:29:37 --> fortytwo (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 11:50:00 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 11:54:34 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-06 12:14:05 --> JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 13:32:32 --> Ingrim4 (~chatzilla@p200300461B32A945204E29B5FEB0FDA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 13:39:33 <-- Ingrim4 (~chatzilla@p200300461B32A945204E29B5FEB0FDA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.4/20160105164030]) 2016-03-06 13:50:55 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 13:55:28 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2016-03-06 14:01:20 --> Gjum (~Gjum@37.120.88.168) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 14:10:03 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2016-03-06 14:37:40 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@37.120.88.168) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-06 14:39:44 rom1504 look at https://gist.github.com/rom1504/07bc62181014ef2514a8 if you are wondering what position datatype has not been used by mojang yet, so you can be innovative and create a new one ! 2016-03-06 14:40:08 rom1504 careful, mojang already has 7 position datatypes 2016-03-06 14:42:32 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:72:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 15:08:26 -- morfin60 est maintenant connu sous le nom morfin 2016-03-06 15:12:01 <-- JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-06 15:12:27 --> JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 15:15:19 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:72:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-03-06 15:20:12 --> Gjum (~Gjum@37.120.88.168) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 15:35:20 <-- _123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a quitté (Quit: _123DMWM) 2016-03-06 15:51:37 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 15:56:19 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-03-06 16:26:03 --> _123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 16:28:54 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by SirCmpwn to Client List -> http://tinyurl.com/zzymqf9 2016-03-06 16:56:32 --> pokechu22 (32234853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.72.83) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 17:52:32 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 17:56:44 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-03-06 18:34:38 ecx_ so Minecraft doesnt clamp angles. so then you can easily get to +/- 100,000 degrees if youre playing on hyperspeed for a while 2016-03-06 18:34:55 ecx_ then you get floating point imprecision and you only have like 1-2 decimal places of precision 2016-03-06 18:34:57 ecx_ great 2016-03-06 18:35:04 <-- ecx_ (~ecx86@unaffiliated/ecx86) a quitté (Quit: Leaving) 2016-03-06 18:35:32 --> ecx86 (~ecx86@unaffiliated/ecx86) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 18:40:08 pokechu22 You can also look to NaN in some cases, though I think some custom servers prevent it... 2016-03-06 18:41:09 ecx86 dont even get me started 2016-03-06 18:41:19 ecx86 on how much shit 2016-03-06 18:41:28 ecx86 floating point imprecision has put me through in the last 5 days 2016-03-06 18:45:05 pokechu22 I remember the "good" old days where you could teleport boats to NaN (and also teleport yourself) 2016-03-06 18:45:30 pokechu22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI8uAnelfb8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COEPTD9OVd8 2016-03-06 18:49:34 pokechu22 Although, I thought the client _did_ clamp angles. It clamps them in F3, at least... 2016-03-06 19:38:17 --> javaprophet (~javaproph@2601:647:ca02:f4d0:45fb:fe12:21d2:41b2) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 19:39:49 javaprophet Does anyone know if during logging in you still resend the Player Position And Look serverbound after the first clientbound in 1.9? I'm asking because of the new Teleport Confirm packet. 2016-03-06 19:53:13 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 19:53:22 pokechu22 Doesn't look like 1.9 changed the code for Join Game from 1.8. So I'm not sure. 2016-03-06 19:54:07 rom1504 pokechu22: btw, your http://pokechu22.github.io/Burger/1.9.html#packets:play_clientbound_40 is wrong 2016-03-06 19:54:20 rom1504 you are treating the array there as a varint 2016-03-06 19:54:43 rom1504 (it's http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Set_Passengers ) 2016-03-06 19:55:14 rom1504 pokechu22: do you intend to PR your burger changes ? (or open the issues in your fork) 2016-03-06 19:55:34 rom1504 so I can report stuff somewhere else than in #mcdevs when you are there 2016-03-06 19:55:35 pokechu22 javaprophet: Actually, it looks like they still send the teleport confirm and then the PlayerPosLook packet. 2016-03-06 19:55:57 pokechu22 I do intend to open a PR with them eventually. Also, I _thought_ issues were open there; I'll go do that... 2016-03-06 19:56:00 javaprophet Alright, Thanks. 2016-03-06 19:56:30 pokechu22 OK, issues are enabled - feel free to report stuff there. 2016-03-06 19:57:18 rom1504 https://github.com/Pokechu22/Burger/issues/1 2016-03-06 19:57:36 TobiX pokechu22: Hahahaha, x: NaN :) 2016-03-06 19:58:21 pokechu22 That's interesting, 1.9 added writeIntArray and writeLongArray methods. I'll handle them. 2016-03-06 19:58:36 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-06 20:09:03 --> Jailout20001 (~Jailout20@unaffiliated/jailout2000) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 20:09:32 <-- Jailout2000 (~Jailout20@unaffiliated/jailout2000) a quitté (Disconnected by services) 2016-03-06 20:09:33 -- Jailout20001 est maintenant connu sous le nom Jailout2000 2016-03-06 20:10:34 pokechu22 rom1504: Fixed 2016-03-06 20:11:38 <-- javaprophet (~javaproph@2601:647:ca02:f4d0:45fb:fe12:21d2:41b2) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2016-03-06 20:14:18 rom1504 cool 2016-03-06 20:15:10 rom1504 pokechu22: what is missing before you consider it ready enough to PR it ? 2016-03-06 20:16:00 pokechu22 Recipies, blocks, and items all seem somewhat borked; I also need to verify that packets are set up right since issues like the one you've just seen are happening. 2016-03-06 20:38:41 --> javaprophet (~javaproph@2601:647:ca02:f4d0:45fb:fe12:21d2:41b2) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 20:39:46 javaprophet Does anyone know why the 1.9 server wouldn't send a Player Pos and Look packet? 2016-03-06 21:20:05 <-- XorBoole- (~XorBoole@brought.to.you.by.xor.boole.io) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-06 21:20:14 --> XorBoole (~XorBoole@brought.to.you.by.xor.boole.io) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 21:20:14 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v XorBoole] par ChanServ 2016-03-06 21:25:04 <-- Byteflux (~Byteflux@minelink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-06 21:29:04 --> Byteflux (~Byteflux@minelink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 21:42:13 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 21:52:10 <-- Byteflux (~Byteflux@minelink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-06 21:54:00 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 21:57:05 --> Byteflux (~Byteflux@minelink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 21:58:56 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2016-03-06 22:02:34 <-- Byteflux (~Byteflux@minelink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-06 22:04:55 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-06 22:07:05 --> Byteflux (~Byteflux@minelink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 22:28:45 <-- Meeeh (~Meeeh@diorite.org) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-06 22:34:23 --> Meeeh (~Meeeh@diorite.org) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 22:45:54 --> Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ydbnflwkntlraets) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 22:49:53 <-- javaprophet (~javaproph@2601:647:ca02:f4d0:45fb:fe12:21d2:41b2) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-06 22:59:35 Akaibu just saw https://twitter.com/M46NV5/status/706102779266375680 although that guy isn't in here atm, isn't it because of copyright/legal reasons? 2016-03-06 23:00:19 Akaibu because technically mcp is illegal, but mojang lets it slide due to the use of mods 2016-03-06 23:00:41 Akaibu pretty sure thats right 2016-03-06 23:04:47 Gjum Akaibu: as I understand it, mcp is legal beacuse it does not redistribute mojang stuff, and I think the mediafire link is just convenience 2016-03-06 23:12:13 pokechu22 MCP is open source, though, more or less... The entire runtime folder contains the code, and the other deobfuscators are open source. 2016-03-06 23:12:43 pokechu22 And IIRC mojang allows decompiling - the EULA says that you're allowed to mod and such and doesn't mention decompiling (unlike with some other games) 2016-03-06 23:15:49 nickelpro Just because it's mediafire it's not OSS? lolwat 2016-03-06 23:19:38 <-- pokechu22 (32234853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.72.83) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2016-03-06 23:26:57 --> ackpacket (~ackpacket@173-228-119-143.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 23:27:20 ackpacket Just took a look at the wiki.vg after having not done so for a year or more. It's come a long way, very organized! 2016-03-06 23:44:21 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 23:54:50 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-06 23:59:46 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-07 00:07:22 --> javaprophet (~javaproph@2601:647:ca02:f4d0:45fb:fe12:21d2:41b2) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 00:13:22 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2016-03-07 01:24:35 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@37.120.88.168) a quitté (Quit: configs break either often or when you heavily rely on them) 2016-03-07 01:37:35 <-- JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-03-07 01:45:04 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2016-03-07 01:55:35 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 01:59:48 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-03-07 02:09:13 <-- jamietech (~jamietech@jamietech.jbouncer.jamiete.ch) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-03-07 02:12:08 --> jamietech (~jamietech@jamietech.jbouncer.jamiete.ch) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 02:13:20 <-- jamietech (~jamietech@jamietech.jbouncer.jamiete.ch) a quitté (Max SendQ exceeded) 2016-03-07 02:13:45 --> jamietech (~jamietech@jamietech.jbouncer.jamiete.ch) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 02:14:33 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 02:23:30 --> pokechu22 (32234853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.72.83) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 02:24:49 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 6 commits to 1.9 [+579/-72/±852] https://git.io/v2xam 2016-03-07 02:24:50 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] drXor 0f25bfb - 1.9 update 2016-03-07 02:24:52 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] drXor 84f38af - 1.9, first pass 2016-03-07 02:24:53 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] drXor ccb03b8 - 1.9, second pass 2016-03-07 02:24:55 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] ... and 3 more commits. 2016-03-07 02:31:08 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to 1.9 [+1/-1/±1] https://git.io/v2xar 2016-03-07 02:31:10 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] drXor dd3c76b - Actually bump the version. 2016-03-07 02:58:55 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Navid to Entities -> http://tinyurl.com/gv68mo2 2016-03-07 03:05:20 --> ughman (~chek@cpe-45-46-35-253.maine.res.rr.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 03:31:14 Aikar Grum: are you at liberty to share what you guys broke in 1.9 with chunk changes? were trying to wrap our heads around it but so loss as to whats wrong. 2016-03-07 03:32:11 javaprophet I think they did a Huffman-like compression in the protocol, not dont much research yet. 2016-03-07 03:32:21 Aikar notably, on how making the FileIOThread sleep less and process its queue faster slows down chunk generation, but only bind between the thread and the main thread is the queue maps, so tried re-engineering that too but still didnt work 2016-03-07 03:32:42 Aikar doesnt seem to be lock contention 2016-03-07 03:32:50 Aikar and 1.8 didnt seem to have issue 2016-03-07 03:32:58 Aikar but i cant see any difference between 1.8 and 1.9 on that 2016-03-07 03:33:20 Aikar javaprophet: that would be on network threads, so shouldnt relate to chunk performance 2016-03-07 03:33:27 ughman oh, is the 1.9 protocol not completely reversed? 2016-03-07 03:33:39 Aikar talking about main thread performance 2016-03-07 03:33:59 Aikar like md5 found https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-98994 2016-03-07 03:35:53 ughman wondering more about what javaprophet is talking about 2016-03-07 03:36:45 javaprophet The chunk format was updated to use a palette which I think is like a lookup table that will allow you to "set block ids per chunk" for smaller chunk size. 2016-03-07 03:36:54 javaprophet Just a guess, haven't implemented it yet in my client. 2016-03-07 03:44:55 +SinZ I recall him mentioning something like that ages ago in here 2016-03-07 03:45:26 +SinZ if a chunk was 100% dirt, you only need to mention dirt once 2016-03-07 03:52:24 ughman perhaps something like a single-value palette of dirt and a data array length of zero? 2016-03-07 03:53:38 ughman actually seems pretty smart to me 2016-03-07 03:56:27 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 04:01:25 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-07 04:06:13 <-- javaprophet (~javaproph@2601:647:ca02:f4d0:45fb:fe12:21d2:41b2) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-03-07 04:10:23 rom1504 the 1.9 chunk format is documented in the wiki 2016-03-07 04:10:27 rom1504 has been for a while 2016-03-07 04:10:32 --> Hafydd (~Hafydd@unaffiliated/joo) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 04:13:02 Hafydd The topic says that the channel is "publicly logged." Where are the logs available? 2016-03-07 04:16:25 rom1504 Hafydd: https://logs.rom1504.fr/ 2016-03-07 04:17:29 Hafydd rom1504: thank you. I suggest perhaps listing that somewhere, to make the "public" part true. 2016-03-07 04:18:16 rom1504 yeah, if an op can put that in the topic, Fenhl tktech_ ? 2016-03-07 04:18:21 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-03-07 04:18:35 Fenhl I'm not an op 2016-03-07 04:18:42 rom1504 yeah I was wondering about that 2016-03-07 04:18:43 rom1504 ok 2016-03-07 04:25:02 <-- pokechu22 (32234853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.72.83) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2016-03-07 04:39:52 <-- Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ydbnflwkntlraets) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-03-07 04:46:19 ackpacket Aikar: just curious, who's this grum, and what does he maintain? 2016-03-07 04:46:39 Aikar not sure if your joking or just new lol 2016-03-07 04:47:01 ackpacket New, left MC a couple of years ago to finish college and stopped fiddling with bots and such XD 2016-03-07 04:47:16 Aikar hes one of the original bukkit devs that got hired by mojang 2016-03-07 04:47:29 ackpacket gtfo, mojang brought him on staff? That's fantastic 2016-03-07 04:47:48 winny how do i get back into minecraft? 2016-03-07 04:47:50 ackpacket I wonder if they plant to open up their API, rendering bukkit unnecessary 2016-03-07 04:47:59 winny I played the heck out of the snapshot and now it's released it's not new to me. 2016-03-07 04:47:59 Aikar that was the goal 3 years ago 2016-03-07 04:48:05 Aikar who knows when itll happen 2016-03-07 04:50:02 ackpacket Last time I was working on mods, I tried to make everything work on the network level, which to be honest wasn't all that bad 2016-03-07 04:50:17 --> Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 04:50:32 ackpacket The gist of it was, allow all users to do whatever they want. Then at the network level implement anti-cheating 2016-03-07 04:51:00 ackpacket aside from a few limits like forcibly moving mobs, it was a pretty nice setup 2016-03-07 04:51:32 ackpacket ultimately though I think I was just making excuses to avoid dealing with bukkit 2016-03-07 05:21:47 <-- _123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-07 05:22:59 --> _123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 05:26:45 -- tktech_ est maintenant connu sous le nom TkTech 2016-03-07 05:27:40 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Fenhl] par ChanServ 2016-03-07 05:35:01 <-- AndrewPH (Butts@omega.classicube.net) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-07 05:35:14 --> AndrewPH (Butts@omega.classicube.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 05:35:14 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v AndrewPH] par ChanServ 2016-03-07 05:57:13 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 06:02:28 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-07 06:02:53 ecx86 I hate the idea of an API. I would settle for nothing less than direct source access 2016-03-07 06:05:04 ackpacket ecx86: You think that might cause some security issues all around? 2016-03-07 06:05:30 ecx86 that's what I've been in for 5 years... 2016-03-07 06:05:45 zml because everyone loves classfile mods 2016-03-07 06:05:53 ecx86 I don't care about modding 2016-03-07 06:06:27 ecx86 currently, my primary job is Minecraft client/server RE 2016-03-07 06:06:40 ecx86 ie, the internals are critical to me 2016-03-07 06:07:04 ackpacket you have a paid position working on a mc server? 2016-03-07 06:07:07 --> redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@p57952F47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 06:07:07 <-- redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@p57952F47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Changing host) 2016-03-07 06:07:07 --> redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 06:07:20 ecx86 not paid. 2016-03-07 06:07:34 zml you're still like a very small portion of the population. because like 99.9% of people working with the source are trying to do mods 2016-03-07 06:07:49 zml and a good api is the only way to go for that usecase 2016-03-07 06:08:01 ecx86 forge already is a good api 2016-03-07 06:08:13 zml lol 2016-03-07 06:08:14 ecx86 and I'd rather have the option to control exactly what I do with the client... 2016-03-07 06:08:19 zml you're funny 2016-03-07 06:09:10 <-- redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-07 06:09:10 -- redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper 2016-03-07 06:20:56 Hafydd Regarding the field of called "Tracking Position", if its only function is indeed to hide all of the markers on a map, it seems strange that the server would not just send an empty list of markers instead of setting it to false. Why would a new field be introduced, if that's the case? 2016-03-07 06:21:45 Hafydd Does anybody know of a reproducible scenario in which the official 1.9 server sends a Map packet with that flag set to false? 2016-03-07 07:00:30 <-- SinZ (~SinZ@CPE-120-144-17-160.lnse5.win.bigpond.net.au) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-07 07:01:13 --> SinZ (~SinZ@CPE-110-148-150-194.vxl8.lon.bigpond.net.au) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 07:01:13 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SinZ] par ChanServ 2016-03-07 07:06:50 --> Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uktwmaujgnaxqoth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 07:29:50 -- Hobbits|away est maintenant connu sous le nom KHobbits 2016-03-07 07:53:13 +Grum I wonder if they plant to open up their API, rendering bukkit unnecessary <-- which API? Notch hardcoded every single thing 2016-03-07 07:58:05 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 08:02:55 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-07 08:03:55 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 08:33:40 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-07 08:43:13 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 08:50:48 --> JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 09:14:05 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2016-03-07 09:39:11 <-- JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-07 09:44:31 <-- Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Quit: into the real world!) 2016-03-07 09:47:06 --> JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 10:11:19 -- Dykam_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Dykam 2016-03-07 10:23:46 <-- aeonchild (enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-07 10:27:37 --> aeonchild (enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 10:33:39 Not-8b17 [flying-squid] rom1504 deleted branch greenkeeper-moment-2.12.0 2016-03-07 12:02:12 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:72:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 12:02:57 Not-8b17 [Charge] bhelyer pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/v2p6S 2016-03-07 12:02:58 Not-8b17 [Charge] bhelyer 1205124 - sys: Fix file argument type on cFree. 2016-03-07 13:19:52 <-- Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uktwmaujgnaxqoth) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-03-07 13:25:04 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:72:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a quitté (Quit: configs break either often or when you heavily rely on them) 2016-03-07 13:30:45 ughman ouch 2016-03-07 14:20:40 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Quit: Sleep) 2016-03-07 14:21:27 --> Akaibu (uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aqdckahrebxwdnqa) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 14:48:05 --> Gjum (~Gjum@cit0142.cit.tu-berlin.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 15:05:18 --> mindcat (~mindcat@14.30.0.66) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 15:37:17 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 15:43:34 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Quit: Quit) 2016-03-07 15:50:11 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 15:51:15 --> javaprophet (~javaproph@2601:647:ca02:f4d0:45fb:fe12:21d2:41b2) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 15:57:24 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-07 16:42:10 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to 1.9 [+0/-0/±5] https://git.io/v2haf 2016-03-07 16:42:12 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] drXor a43f5f9 - Fix the crafting table. Thanks Scruffy. 2016-03-07 16:42:21 ScruffyRules You're welcome! 2016-03-07 17:05:11 Not-8b17 [Glowstone] mastercoms pushed 1 commit [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/v2hPR 2016-03-07 17:05:12 Not-8b17 [Glowstone] mastercoms 7007143 - Change it to correct IRC channel 2016-03-07 17:24:39 --> pokechu22 (32234853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.72.83) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 17:28:04 Akaibu Grum: at this point I don't think there is any code from notch still left in the game 2016-03-07 17:32:21 +Amaranth lmao, ha 2016-03-07 17:32:43 +Amaranth Akaibu: It's still mostly his work, I'd say 2016-03-07 17:33:14 <-- GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a quitté (Quit: (╯°□°）╯︵ ʇǝuɹǝʇuı ǝɥʇ ɥʇıʍ ǝuop ɯ,ı) 2016-03-07 17:36:09 --> GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 17:36:30 pokechu22 Nah, I'm pretty sure furnace minecarts are unchanged :P 2016-03-07 17:36:48 pokechu22 Though I still like using them for the few cases where they make sense. 2016-03-07 17:44:56 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 17:48:50 barneygale furnace minecarts make sense? :o 2016-03-07 17:50:23 <-- mindcat (~mindcat@14.30.0.66) a quitté (Quit: leaving) 2016-03-07 17:58:26 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 18:02:49 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-07 18:03:20 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Quit: Sleep) 2016-03-07 18:04:15 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 18:04:21 <-- GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-03-07 18:04:32 --> GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 18:07:13 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-07 18:13:08 <-- GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-03-07 18:20:03 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 18:20:03 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2016-03-07 19:10:42 --> GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 19:14:03 ackpacket Grum: which API? Notch hardcoded every single thing <--- well, any, I suppose. Even if that means creating one. It'd be nice to have the ability to let plugins work with a vanilla server 2016-03-07 19:14:21 ackpacket Grum: I know a lot of servers that refuse to update because they have to wait on bukkit. 2016-03-07 19:15:30 pokechu22 There already is a spigot for 1.9, although it's kinda unstable. 2016-03-07 19:27:23 pokechu22 I suppose I should link this: https://redd.it/49buyn 2016-03-07 19:27:39 pokechu22 The guy there incorrectly assumes that it's mojang who's documenting packets, but it's still possibly something to consider. 2016-03-07 19:32:44 ackpacket pokechu22: forgive me if I'm unfamiliar but does spigot serve the same purpose as bukkit? 2016-03-07 19:33:31 pokechu22 Spigot (http://spigotmc.org) is basically bukkit with performance improvements and without being DMCA'd. It's got the same API. 2016-03-07 19:34:45 ackpacket if it's as simple as that I can't believe anyone would ever choose bukkit at all 2016-03-07 19:35:29 ughman what are the practical effects of "without being DMCA'd" 2016-03-07 19:41:20 <-- GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-07 19:46:01 <-- gabizou (~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-07 19:46:21 +AndrewPH ughman: being available 2016-03-07 19:46:26 +AndrewPH (probably) 2016-03-07 19:46:29 +Grum ackpacket: for plugins to work that means being able to reach internals and change them ... 2016-03-07 19:47:07 ughman oh so bukkit is actually dead? 2016-03-07 19:47:42 +ammar2 bukkit as in the api is fine 2016-03-07 19:47:56 +ammar2 well fine as in its not taken down 2016-03-07 19:47:59 +ammar2 but its not being updated 2016-03-07 19:47:59 +Grum wolverness murdered bukkit for some unknown reasons 2016-03-07 19:48:18 pokechu22 Well, spigot and bukkit are the same, in a way. Spigot actually also comes with an updated craftbukkit. The thing is, you have to decompile and build it from scratch, though they have a script for that. 2016-03-07 19:48:19 +Grum s/bu/craftbu/ 2016-03-07 19:48:25 +ammar2 craftbukkit, the main implementation of bukkit based on the vanilla server is highly dead though 2016-03-07 19:49:02 rom1504 "highly dead" :D 2016-03-07 19:49:46 +ammar2 well dead as in it was created with a license that wasn't really thought out to begin with, its just that no one really cared 2016-03-07 19:49:48 +ammar2 up until someone did 2016-03-07 19:49:56 +ammar2 and now its dead :^) 2016-03-07 19:50:27 +ammar2 but then again I doubt anyone who chose the license thought one of the own developers would take it down 2016-03-07 19:50:32 +ammar2 the only real "threat" at that time was mojang 2016-03-07 19:50:34 +Grum until someone abused that to murder a community project and violating the license it tried to invoke >.> 2016-03-07 19:50:51 +ammar2 such is life 2016-03-07 19:51:16 +Grum yup 2016-03-07 19:59:13 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 20:04:12 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-07 20:06:25 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Pre-release protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/gq4bbub 2016-03-07 20:07:44 --> gabizou (~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 20:09:34 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Protocol -> http://tinyurl.com/hdmoacb 2016-03-07 20:20:32 --> GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 20:21:37 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-03-07 20:31:28 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Template:LoadPage -> http://tinyurl.com/zojl7aa 2016-03-07 20:32:32 Not-9c26 [wiki] Edit by Pokechu22 to Template:LoadPage -> http://tinyurl.com/zvez82z 2016-03-07 20:37:42 Not-8b17 [Charge] Wallbraker pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/v2jws 2016-03-07 20:37:43 Not-8b17 [Charge] Wallbraker 7278e4f - power: Some test code 2016-03-07 20:37:59 pokechu22 OK, I'm guessing wiki.vg doesn't support load-page? I'm trying to create a collapsible section for a list of sounds. 2016-03-07 20:41:02 pokechu22 TkTech, can you delete http://wiki.vg/Template:LoadPage? It doesn't work and I don't think I should leave a broken template up. 2016-03-07 20:43:45 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Quit: Quit) 2016-03-07 20:44:49 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 21:10:42 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-03-07 21:29:40 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2016-03-07 21:38:08 <-- Gjum (~Gjum@cit0142.cit.tu-berlin.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-07 21:52:25 Akaibu whats with the domain name you guys choose for minecraft protocol docs anyway? 2016-03-07 21:54:43 williammck Akaibu: wiki.vg (vg = video game) 2016-03-07 21:54:57 williammck at least that's how I've seen it explained 2016-03-07 21:55:42 Akaibu well if that is the case, i say its really a waste of a domain 2016-03-07 21:56:05 williammck to each their own 2016-03-07 21:57:07 Akaibu kinda like how jesusfuck.me is a fail domain use 2016-03-07 21:57:39 williammck ok 2016-03-07 22:00:03 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2016-03-07 22:00:05 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 22:00:19 pokechu22 .vg was originally for the virgin islands - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.vg 2016-03-07 22:00:24 williammck pokechu22: yup 2016-03-07 22:00:33 Pyker is it now for videogames? 2016-03-07 22:00:59 williammck still officially for the virgin islands 2016-03-07 22:01:02 pokechu22 Video games are the major use case, though officially it's for the virgin islands. 2016-03-07 22:01:06 williammck ^ 2016-03-07 22:04:26 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-03-07 22:10:03 --> cookiemonsta (a801060c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.168.1.6.12) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 22:10:16 cookiemonsta Anyone here? 2016-03-07 22:11:31 <-- cookiemonsta (a801060c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.168.1.6.12) a quitté (Client Quit) 2016-03-07 22:12:29 williammck he only waited a minute and a half 2016-03-07 22:12:35 williammck that's disappointing 2016-03-07 22:30:10 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-03-07 22:59:12 ackpacket Anyone here familiar with turtle graphics? 2016-03-07 22:59:45 ackpacket or Snap!, or Scratch 2016-03-07 23:00:06 ackpacket (not an ask to ask, heh) 2016-03-07 23:00:11 ecx86 why do you ask? 2016-03-07 23:00:15 ackpacket Just wondering how far it's reputation has gone 2016-03-07 23:01:00 ackpacket Well I recognize that the purpose of something like turtle graphics is to teach someone to program, or at least start thinking like a programmer. I've been considering implementing something similar for minecraft, it might be much more engaging. 2016-03-07 23:01:13 ackpacket Imagine how captivated people would be if they could write a program to automate something their character does 2016-03-07 23:01:28 ackpacket It'd force them to learn some really useful concepts 2016-03-07 23:02:57 ecx86 i learned programming by writing cheats in minecraft a long time ago 2016-03-07 23:04:04 ackpacket Think of how many more people might go on to become devs if only they were exposed to a richer first impression 2016-03-07 23:08:47 pokechu22 I think ComputerCraft has a turtle graphics mode now. 2016-03-07 23:09:51 pokechu22 I mean, a scratch-like mode. ComputerCraft has always had turtles :P 2016-03-07 23:11:45 pokechu22 Wait, it's a separate package related to MinecraftEDU: http://computercraftedu.com/ 2016-03-07 23:21:31 --> Gjum (~Gjum@2a02:2450:1024:72:5e26:aff:fe03:f2ae) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-07 23:29:14 ecx86 the best way to learn programming is by programming 2016-03-07 23:29:19 ecx86 not in a videogame 2016-03-07 23:29:21 ecx86 thats my opinion 2016-03-07 23:56:34 <-- Paprikachu (~pap@play2win.io) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-07 23:56:35 <-- JonasOSDever (~jp@2a01:4f8:171:1e8d::2) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-03-07 23:58:03 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-08 00:00:10 --> JonasOSDever (~jp@play2win.io) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-08 00:00:40 --> Paprikachu (~pap@play2win.io) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-08 00:00:49 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-08 00:02:20 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-08 00:02:20 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2016-03-08 00:04:57 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host49-54-static.0-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2016-03-08 00:07:24 Aikar Grum what does this new "Navigation Listener" as md5 named it do? public void a(World world, BlockPosition blockposition, IBlockData iblockdata, IBlockData iblockdata1, int i) { 2016-03-08 00:07:35 Aikar why does that need to be pinged every block physics 2016-03-08 00:10:35 Aikar adding such slow code to a physics event wasnt good :( 2016-03-08 00:14:33 Aikar where do you put server jar file for MCP? 2016-03-08 00:14:50 Aikar or is that automatic now? 2016-03-08 00:20:33 <-- trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-03-08 00:24:02 --> trevor (~trevor@gradient/cofounder/trevor) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-08 00:32:36 <-- ughman (~chek@cpe-45-46-35-253.maine.res.rr.com) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2016-03-08 00:38:04 pokechu22 IIRC you just put the server jar file in the jars folder. I haven't tried it though 2016-03-08 00:46:58 <-- JustASlacker (~icke@213.83.43.18) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-03-08 00:47:55 --> Danielh90 (~Danielh90@97-91-156-141.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-08 00:58:34 <-- pokechu22 (32234853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.35.72.83) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2016-03-08 00:58:47 --> Kage0x3B (bc60907e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.96.144.126) a rejoint #mcdevs 2016-03-08 01:07:18 +Amaranth Aikar: Got some fun for you: http://i.imgur.com/DeLyx8T.png 2016-03-08 01:07:40 +Amaranth Collisions between every entity are checking for the scoreboard collision rule 2016-03-08 01:16:30 Aikar ... 2016-03-08 01:17:18 javaprophet Is scoreboard rule checking intensive? If so, I imagine that entities don't collide all that often to warrant micro-optimizations 2016-03-08 01:17:20 Aikar Grum, can i contract for mojang to review ideas for changes like this to stop them before they get made >_>? 2016-03-08 01:17:31 Aikar javaprophet, farms cause tons and tons of collisions 2016-03-08 01:17:35 Aikar its a major source of lag 2016-03-08 01:17:46 Aikar I wrote some code to cap max collisions per entity per tick 2016-03-08 01:17:48 Aikar it helps a ton 2016-03-08 01:17:49 javaprophet Very true. But is it intensive? 2016-03-08 01:17:55 Aikar its hot 2016-03-08 01:18:04 Aikar so adding stuff like that, look at amaranths screenshot 2016-03-08 01:18:24 Aikar i run with 4000-8000 entities with just 30-50 players 2016-03-08 01:18:38 Gjum "entities don't collide all that often" farms :P 2016-03-08 01:19:13 javaprophet I don't play MC that much ironically. :P 2016-03-08 01:19:21 Aikar ive made such major gains in performance in 1.8, now 1.9 undoes it all :( 2016-03-08 01:19:24 javaprophet Despite writing my own client and bot. 2016-03-08 01:19:32 +ammar2 nice gains Aikar 2016-03-08 01:19:38 Gjum caching might help? the entities dont change group that often I guess 2016-03-08 01:19:40 Aikar sad that my hopper fix didnt make 1.9 2016-03-08 01:19:41 javaprophet Aikar, if you want massive gains, I'm rewriting the whole game in C. 2016-03-08 01:19:58 Aikar javaprophet, meh java isnt the issue, bad logical decisions are mostly the issue :P 2016-03-08 01:20:24 +ammar2 javaprophet: good luck 2016-03-08 01:20:27 Aikar you can run into the same issues mojang has with java, in C, if you make the same mistakes 2016-03-08 01:20:33 javaprophet Exactly, but doing a rewrite, I chose C rather than Java to A. run native for what that's worth, and B. avoid too much OO design. 2016-03-08 01:20:53 Gjum isnt that what mojang does too with mcpe? 2016-03-08 01:20:53 Aikar but those arent the problems the game has 2016-03-08 01:20:58 javaprophet Couldn't be better said. 2016-03-08 01:21:43 <-- Kage0x3B (bc60907e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.96.144.126) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2016-03-08 01:22:03 +ammar2 the usual problem with rewriting the game is it has far too many features at this point 2016-03-08 01:22:12 +ammar2 getting to feature parity is hard as fuck 2016-03-08 01:22:15 Aikar yeah.... 2016-03-08 01:22:19 Aikar look at the 30 other rewrites 2016-03-08 01:22:21 +ammar2 especially if you're trying to copy the weird ass mechanics 1:1 2016-03-08 01:22:24 Aikar none of them are complete 2016-03-08 01:22:53 javaprophet I've found MC is deceptively simple, once you giver a good go. I wrote a bot in a week that did all kinds of nutty things with a full "Minecraft Model", just lacking rendering. 2016-03-08 01:22:58 Aikar if your not trying to rebuild MC, sure 2016-03-08 01:23:17 Aikar if your just looking to use it as a basis for another game type, that uses the mc client 2016-03-08 01:23:23 Aikar then i guess you might get somewhere 2016-03-08 01:23:27 javaprophet I'm doing my first rendering client, which already has networking and rendering, and I'm working on patching it all together. 2016-03-08 01:23:36 +ammar2 the rendering isn't too hard 2016-03-08 01:23:40 +ammar2 I'm talking about game features 2016-03-08 01:23:45 javaprophet I'm aiming for a graphical and protocol-level compatibility. 2016-03-08 01:23:47 +ammar2 like inventory/items/enchancement/etc 2016-03-08 01:23:49 Aikar if your also writing a client, you might as well consider it a separate game 2016-03-08 01:23:53 javaprophet That's the easy part IMO. 2016-03-08 01:23:55 Aikar and dont associate it with mc at all for legal reasons 2016-03-08 01:24:04 +ammar2 its "easy" but its a lot of work 2016-03-08 01:24:09 javaprophet I so would, but I lack graphical/modelling resources. 2016-03-08 01:24:29 Aikar opengameart 2016-03-08 01:24:31 javaprophet So much so that it's easier for me to copy another games and make no money, because I can't afford a GFX designer in any way. 2016-03-08 01:24:32 rom1504 Gjum: mcpe official server for users is in php 2016-03-08 01:24:34 Aikar (google it) 2016-03-08 01:24:40 javaprophet EWW, PHP? 2016-03-08 01:24:45 Gjum wth 2016-03-08 01:24:46 Aikar yep... but its not that bad 2016-03-08 01:24:59 Aikar its using async IO with the React framework 2016-03-08 01:25:15 javaprophet Still, PHP is the slowest language I know. 2016-03-08 01:25:21 Aikar I wrote my own Async IO framework 9 years ago >_> 2016-03-08 01:25:28 Aikar for PHP 2016-03-08 01:25:29 ackpacket javaprophet: are you rewriting a server or a client in c? 2016-03-08 01:25:31 javaprophet I hope to god they atleast have HHVM. 2016-03-08 01:25:38 javaprophet ackpacket, a client, then a server too. 2016-03-08 01:25:40 Aikar i believe it does use hhvm? 2016-03-08 01:25:40 rom1504 at least that php code is opensource ! 2016-03-08 01:25:58 ackpacket Aikar: are you a contributor to MC? What did you mean earlier when you talked about your fixes for 1.8? Just personal local optimizations? 2016-03-08 01:26:07 javaprophet http://screencloud.net/v/7Fqc 2016-03-08 01:26:19 rom1504 apparently they also have a mcpe server in c++ but you can't get it, it's for internal usage for realms or something 2016-03-08 01:26:26 Aikar ackpacket, Im one of the main people working in the Spigot community on performance improvements, and ive been passing them to Grum 2016-03-08 01:26:34 Aikar though I work w/ Paper now mostly 2016-03-08 01:26:44 Aikar few of my findings made it to 1.9 2016-03-08 01:26:53 ackpacket Oh, nice. Like what? 2016-03-08 01:26:57 Aikar just didnt find the fix to Hopper lag till too late 2016-03-08 01:27:21 Aikar one was chunk writing to disk was spamming byte[1] allocations, massively ineffecient writing 2016-03-08 01:27:36 Aikar grum said he knew it was happening, but didnt realize the fix was so easy lol 2016-03-08 01:27:49 ackpacket er... what's the issue with things like that (oddly written code), isn't mojang hiring good devs? 2016-03-08 01:27:51 Aikar and cant remember what the other one was 2016-03-08 01:28:02 Aikar that wasnt really 'bad code' 2016-03-08 01:28:03 javaprophet Aikar, I highly recommend tick regions if your server doesn't do it already. 2016-03-08 01:28:11 Aikar just a bad pipeline for data streams 2016-03-08 01:28:15 javaprophet I read about in Glowstone or something, and it sounds fascinating. 2016-03-08 01:28:20 Aikar javaprophet, what? 2016-03-08 01:28:32 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to 1.9 [+25/-1/±0] https://git.io/vaeiq 2016-03-08 01:28:34 Not-8b17 [1.8-Models] drXor cf37e71 - 1.9 items! 2016-03-08 01:28:37 Aikar javaprophet, note my specialty is entities, is why amaranth sent me that link :P 2016-03-08 01:28:38 javaprophet Tick regions, separating out groups of chunks in a single thread. 2016-03-08 01:28:55 Aikar thats very hard to do properly 2016-03-08 01:28:59 javaprophet It allows much better MT I think. 2016-03-08 01:29:00 rom1504 XorBoole: 1.9 doesn't go in a 1.8 branch, fix it :p 2016-03-08 01:29:07 Aikar yes, in vanilla sure 2016-03-08 01:29:10 Aikar but we have to worry about API 2016-03-08 01:29:13 javaprophet Glowstone did it, I'm certainly going to in my server. 2016-03-08 01:29:24 +ammar2 it also likely breaks a lot of vanilla mechanics 2016-03-08 01:29:24 Aikar glowstone is a fresh rewrite 2016-03-08 01:29:29 Aikar we work off patches to vanilla 2016-03-08 01:29:30 Gjum rom1504: branch is 1.9, project name is 1.8 ;) 2016-03-08 01:29:34 rom1504 ah 2016-03-08 01:29:37 Aikar so we have to keep the patches sane to apply 2016-03-08 01:29:40 rom1504 so it's the project name that is wrong 2016-03-08 01:29:44 Aikar avoid changin too much 2016-03-08 01:29:45 rom1504 that's what to fix 2016-03-08 01:29:53 javaprophet I know, but it would be amazing. 2016-03-08 01:29:56 ackpacket Aikar: this might be a result of my experience with java, but, how do you make so many edits/optimizations to the game? Does java decompile into source that's actually readable/usable? 2016-03-08 01:29:57 javaprophet And it' 2016-03-08 01:30:15 Aikar ackpacket, bukkit started its own deobfuscation mappings 2016-03-08 01:30:20 Aikar sadly they arent as good as MCP 2016-03-08 01:30:23 ackpacket MCP? 2016-03-08 01:30:30 Gjum coder pack 2016-03-08 01:30:32 Aikar oh righ your that new guy 2016-03-08 01:30:39 ackpacket -.- lol 2016-03-08 01:30:40 Gjum "new" ^^ 2016-03-08 01:30:48 javaprophet it's not gamebreaking if you do it right I think, I would seperate chunk areas with their own entity lists, etc, and then process, allow crossover w/o reload, etc. 2016-03-08 01:30:52 Aikar Minecraft Coder Pack deobfuscates the server/client into readable code 2016-03-08 01:31:04 ackpacket is that how folks are making their custom clients? 2016-03-08 01:31:09 javaprophet Basically coordinate-synchronized multiworld, and with the ability to be partially in two. 2016-03-08 01:31:09 Aikar ackpacket, sorry lol i just expect everyone in here to know that basic stuff so i was confused :P 2016-03-08 01:31:13 Aikar yes 2016-03-08 01:31:22 Aikar Bukkit community focuses on server only 2016-03-08 01:31:32 javaprophet As in an entity in both "worlds", the same object in two lists, receives data from both regions 2016-03-08 01:31:34 ackpacket Aikar: I see... and MCP does a pretty decent job of it? 2016-03-08 01:31:35 javaprophet etc 2016-03-08 01:31:45 Aikar yes, the Forge community rapidly updates mappings 2016-03-08 01:32:08 ackpacket god bless community achievable goals 2016-03-08 01:32:08 Aikar most of mc stuff happens over on Esper IRC net though 2016-03-08 01:32:13 Aikar and spigot 2016-03-08 01:32:23 Aikar this is the one oddball channel :P 2016-03-08 01:32:37 ackpacket javaprophet: you're like, 1 of 50 people writing a new client they think will be faster btw XD 2016-03-08 01:33:18 ackpacket Aikar: well, freenode has always had a little bit of everything 2016-03-08 01:33:27 javaprophet I have no idea and don't care if mine is faster, I'm doing it for the experience. 2016-03-08 01:33:51 javaprophet I would certainly like to try and make it faster to see if I can beat Mojang, literally at their own game. 2016-03-08 01:33:53 Aikar ackpacket, basically in the spigot server, the script will download the server jar file, remap many methods/variables to readable names, then decompile 2016-03-08 01:33:53 ackpacket javaprophet: I'd love to do that too but I'm right in the middle of interviews =\ 2016-03-08 01:34:16 ackpacket Aikar: so then, if I wanted to, I could go look up the source right now? 2016-03-08 01:34:19 Aikar then CraftBukkit is an old project that got abandoned by the Bukkit team due to legal drama, that took Vanilla, added the Bukkit API, but kept it very vanilla 2016-03-08 01:34:38 Aikar CB applies patch files on top of the vanilla decompiled source 2016-03-08 01:34:39 Aikar and yes 2016-03-08 01:35:02 Aikar then Spigot applies furthur patches ontop of CB, applying performance improvements and other features that might skew vanilla 2016-03-08 01:35:05 javaprophet I think that someone should recode the whole server in C to be better threaded and optimized and what not. Even master-master load balancing. 2016-03-08 01:35:31 javaprophet As someone who's written five or so protocol daemons in both Java and C, C is much better for networking. 2016-03-08 01:36:22 ackpacket javaprophet: Eh. Idk about that. What's the logic behind that? 2016-03-08 01:36:53 Aikar Forge on the other hand, goes drastic 2016-03-08 01:36:54 Aikar its capabilities greatly deviate from vanilla and usually requires client mods 2016-03-08 01:36:58 ackpacket What really eats me back when I wrote a few plugins for fun, is that there are a wealth of events you'd like your plugin to respond to that just aren't available in bukkit 2016-03-08 01:37:03 javaprophet In Java, one GET request for a static page took ~1 ms for a full featured Java HTTPD, and ~0.01 MS for one in C from a newbie C dev. 2016-03-08 01:37:04 ackpacket though for the life of me, I can't remember what they were 2016-03-08 01:37:16 ackpacket javaprophet: sounds very anecdotal 2016-03-08 01:37:26 Aikar Then theres Sponge, started to resolve the legal drama that hit Bukkit 2016-03-08 01:37:39 rom1504 javaprophet: assembly is even better 2016-03-08 01:37:44 javaprophet If you want, both projects are in my github, if you would like a link to try yourself. 2016-03-08 01:37:44 Aikar its based on Forge but can run w/o client mods if you dont use forge mods 2016-03-08 01:37:44 rom1504 there's a classic server in assembly 2016-03-08 01:37:57 javaprophet Assembler is not portable like C or Java though. 2016-03-08 01:38:02 ackpacket javaprophet: if you can't explain why you're seeing what you're seeing, the data isn't much use 2016-03-08 01:38:11 +ammar2 rom1504: debatable 2016-03-08 01:38:22 javaprophet I can, it's running natively. 2016-03-08 01:38:23 rom1504 yes and c is not as easy to write as anything else javaprophet 2016-03-08 01:38:36 +ammar2 at the amount of code you'd be writing, most optimizing compilers will easily beat your hand written assembly 2016-03-08 01:38:48 rom1504 ammar2: yes, I was kind of ironic 2016-03-08 01:38:49 ackpacket javaprophet: I believe you that it happened, and that some odd GET request took longer. But it's a harder case to extend that logic to "therefore, all networking in java is slower than in c" 2016-03-08 01:38:58 javaprophet As someone who has written a MC Bot in Java, and a Client in C, C is not harder once you get into it. 2016-03-08 01:39:02 rom1504 because you'll have to write ton of ugly code in c 2016-03-08 01:39:08 rom1504 versus most other languages 2016-03-08 01:39:31 javaprophet Perfectly true, I love ugly code myself, but I get your point. 2016-03-08 01:39:32 Gjum c is so old, people found ways around ugly code 2016-03-08 01:39:56 javaprophet If yall don't believe me, that's fine. I'm not here to argue my point. 2016-03-08 01:39:58 +ammar2 I find c to be pretty readable 2016-03-08 01:40:11 Aikar and then when you screw up your memory management, and spend tons of time debugging mem leaks :P 2016-03-08 01:40:17 +ammar2 meh 2016-03-08 01:40:19 +ammar2 don't make mistakes 2016-03-08 01:40:26 ackpacket javaprophet: I would love to take a look at your sourcecode for the bot, see how it was architect-ed. Just for fun 2016-03-08 01:40:29 javaprophet I'm stating my intention to at some point, write a very optimized server in C. 2016-03-08 01:40:32 rom1504 if you find c readable, go read the linux kernel a bit, and come back 2016-03-08 01:40:39 Gjum sounds like you havent worked on uni homework projects in c yet 2016-03-08 01:40:43 javaprophet ackpacket, my Java Bot is propietary, sorry. 2016-03-08 01:41:03 ackpacket javaprophet: I've written one as well, tbh I'm only interested in comparing structural choices 2016-03-08 01:41:03 Aikar ammar2, for simple things its easy not to, but what about that objct that needs to live long term, then deciding when it should die, and ensuring every ref to it is cleared up :P 2016-03-08 01:41:06 +ammar2 I've done both, linux kernel and uni homework in C, still like it and find it fairly readable 2016-03-08 01:41:08 ackpacket javaprophet: but I understand 2016-03-08 01:41:13 Aikar easy to mess up 2016-03-08 01:41:16 javaprophet I've had some experience with memory corruuption, segfaults, my only response is valgrind and it's fixed in 15 seconds flat. 2016-03-08 01:41:22 +ammar2 Aikar: maybe if you're BAD 2016-03-08 01:41:29 Aikar grums name is lit up but hes not giving us love :( 2016-03-08 01:41:39 Aikar <3 you grum, plz talk?! 2016-03-08 01:41:41 +ammar2 he's probably asleep 2016-03-08 01:41:45 javaprophet ackpacket, I more or less ended up with an architecture akin to MC 1.2.5 2016-03-08 01:42:00 Aikar is his client faking 'not away'? lol 2016-03-08 01:42:24 rom1504 most client don't auto-away 2016-03-08 01:42:34 Aikar what one doesnt based on inactivity? 2016-03-08 01:42:45 +ammar2 here's a better way 2016-03-08 01:42:46 Aikar wtf hes using mIRC 2016-03-08 01:42:52 +ammar2 do a /whois Aikar Aikar 2016-03-08 01:42:53 Aikar the 90's want their client back 2016-03-08 01:42:55 +ammar2 see idle time 2016-03-08 01:42:58 ackpacket javaprophet: I don't know what MC 1.2.5 is like, sorry 2016-03-08 01:43:03 ackpacket javaprophet: not from a code perspective 2016-03-08 01:43:11 javaprophet I didn't over-object-orientate my code. 2016-03-08 01:43:21 javaprophet I used static variables to define items, etc. 2016-03-08 01:43:31 Aikar omg they are gonna lynch you