2016-01-29 16:51:26	OnlyQubes	Im thinking its the bit/little encodian thing that is breaking it
2016-01-29 16:52:59	rom15043	Can you *not* post code as images ?
2016-01-29 16:53:13	rom15043	There are plenty paste bin
2016-01-29 16:53:59	OnlyQubes	1 sec, ill repost it
2016-01-29 16:54:01	hansihe	<< length++ * 7
2016-01-29 16:54:12	hansihe	in java at least, ++ is atomic
2016-01-29 16:54:36	OnlyQubes	http://pastebin.com/v3NvUuvy here it is in non image 
2016-01-29 16:56:53	OnlyQubes	@hansihe what do you mean by that? :?
2016-01-29 16:57:02	rom15043	OnlyQubes: I bet this one works https://github.com/SharpMC/SharpMC/blob/master/src/SharpMC.Core/Networking/BasicListener.cs#L67
2016-01-29 16:57:12	hansihe	increments the variable and then returns
2016-01-29 16:57:39	OnlyQubes	rom15043 okay ill try this one P:. 
2016-01-29 16:57:42	hansihe	they do the same thing, i'm probably just silly
2016-01-29 16:57:45	OnlyQubes	@Hansihe ahh okay
2016-01-29 16:58:31	rom15043	Anyway, you need to check if your function works or not. Let's not fix something that is not broken
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2016-01-29 17:05:13	OnlyQubes	I think the problem isn't in the getVarInt function, as this one does the same thing: Packet length: 2091970, Uncompressed length: 97
2016-01-29 17:08:54	shevchik	Than you missed something else
2016-01-29 17:08:58	rom15043	OnlyQubes: are you sure you are not missing some byte or some other kind of stream desynchronisation?
2016-01-29 17:09:24	shevchik	Anyway, try reading varint like that
2016-01-29 17:09:26	shevchik	https://github.com/ProtocolSupport/ProtocolSupport/blob/master/src/protocolsupport/utils/ChannelUtils.java#L38
2016-01-29 17:09:28	OnlyQubes	It seems to be like this for big packets only, after these big bytes (chunks and stuff) it stabilises
2016-01-29 17:10:47	shevchik	Rememver that packet length prepend varint has max 3 bytes
2016-01-29 17:10:58	shevchik	If it is more than you made a mistake somewhere
2016-01-29 17:12:10	OnlyQubes	Im reading the 'Packet Length' correctly it seems, because it does say the correct lenght of the packet, the problem starts when i try to read 'Data Length' i think
2016-01-29 17:12:26	shevchik	Okay, first you deencrpyt block
2016-01-29 17:12:31	shevchik	Than you read complete packet length
2016-01-29 17:12:42	shevchik	Than you should read uncompressed length varint
2016-01-29 17:12:51	OnlyQubes	Encryption isn't enabled on this test P:
2016-01-29 17:13:00	shevchik	Offline-mode?
2016-01-29 17:13:03	OnlyQubes	yup
2016-01-29 17:13:12	shevchik	Well, than skip encryption part
2016-01-29 17:13:14	OnlyQubes	Than you read complete packet length - i do this, seems to be good
2016-01-29 17:13:34	OnlyQubes	Than you should read uncompressed length varint - random small value, is much more small than the value read before 
2016-01-29 17:13:53	shevchik	Shouldn't be like that
2016-01-29 17:14:07	shevchik	You are reading packet length wrong then
2016-01-29 17:14:18	shevchik	Probably not receiving all bytes
2016-01-29 17:14:25	shevchik	It can go up to 3 bytes
2016-01-29 17:14:29	shevchik	If you use async io
2016-01-29 17:14:36	OnlyQubes	after that i still have a ton of bytes left, like 300k or so
2016-01-29 17:14:57	shevchik	Totally reading packet wrong
2016-01-29 17:15:10	shevchik	300k bytes is impossible length for a packet afaik
2016-01-29 17:15:27	OnlyQubes	wait ill check what ammount it says
2016-01-29 17:16:04	rom15043	shevchik: a chunk bulk packet might be that big
2016-01-29 17:16:07	OnlyQubes	oh its not 300k its 30k D:
2016-01-29 17:16:47	OnlyQubes	Now with the new varint decoder im getting some different values (https://github.com/ProtocolSupport/ProtocolSupport/blob/master/src/protocolsupport/utils/ChannelUtils.java#L38) wait ill check what those are
2016-01-29 17:16:48	shevchik	Well, thats an acceptable amout
2016-01-29 17:17:34	shevchik	Mojang varint differs from original google varint
2016-01-29 17:17:38	shevchik	And other VLQs
2016-01-29 17:19:16	OnlyQubes	ahh darn the values still seem to be wrong : <
2016-01-29 17:20:27	rom15043	What about actually trying if your varint function read things correctly?
2016-01-29 17:20:53	OnlyQubes	yeah ill go do that now P:
2016-01-29 17:25:39	OnlyQubes	It seems to work when i create the varints, tested it up to 10,000,000 and it worked all the way
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2016-01-29 17:43:09	OnlyQubes	Okay figured something big out, the initial readVarInt is also bad
2016-01-29 17:43:21	OnlyQubes	i was mistaking it for being right as it creates an array with the size of it
2016-01-29 17:43:42	OnlyQubes	wops sorry, so yeah im doing the byte reading badly P:
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2016-01-29 19:25:05	OnlyQubes	It seems that i cannot read big varints propely, any idea why guys? :? Do i need to do something special with big variants? *(im using this http://pastebin.com/sLJy4UAD, language is c#)
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2016-01-29 20:15:38	OnlyQubes	It seems like 1 byte then it works but when it is more bytes its not good
2016-01-29 20:17:40	rom15043	OnlyQubes: does Stream automatically increase the offset when read ?
2016-01-29 20:18:09	rom15043	If not, line 22 is reading the same byte again and again
2016-01-29 20:18:26	OnlyQubes	it reads the byte and advances the position by 1 byte
2016-01-29 20:18:47	OnlyQubes	the tooltip says that and from testing i can see that it advances it P:
2016-01-29 20:19:06	rom15043	Ok
2016-01-29 20:19:14	OnlyQubes	darn this bug, killing me xD
2016-01-29 20:19:38	rom15043	What values are you testing this on?
2016-01-29 20:21:05	OnlyQubes	im logging in to a server, everything seems to be fine, but then unexpectedly it gets like a 1m value from the initial (Packet Length), it then tries to read all of those bytes, but 90% of the bytes are null.
2016-01-29 20:22:12	OnlyQubes	values seem to be normal till 115k, but the varint says its 1.8million
2016-01-29 20:22:26	OnlyQubes	1824921 to be exact
2016-01-29 20:27:24	+Fador	are you sure you have bytes to read for the varint?
2016-01-29 20:28:34	rom15043	So you're not trying on any specific value ? You won't be able to know if you varint function is the problem unless you test it independently
2016-01-29 20:29:32	OnlyQubes	i did test it independently, generated the varint bytes myself, that seemed to work, no matter how big the value was
2016-01-29 20:30:08	rom15043	Okay, so the problem is *not* your varint function
2016-01-29 20:30:11	OnlyQubes	@Fador the wiki.vg says that i need to read a varint, it works, but not with big numbers i think
2016-01-29 20:30:18	rom15043	Look at the rest of your code
2016-01-29 20:30:32	+Fador	OnlyQubes: but what if server sends 1 byte of 3-byte varint?
2016-01-29 20:30:43	OnlyQubes	@Fador the wiki.vg says that i need to read a varint, it works, but not with big numbers i think
2016-01-29 20:30:44	+Fador	OnlyQubes: will it wait for two more bytes?
2016-01-29 20:30:48	rom15043	Test it independently with big numbers to be sure
2016-01-29 20:31:30	rom15043	Yea you need to wait for all the bytes of the packet to be there indeed
2016-01-29 20:31:58	rom15043	That's the reason why the protocol include the packet length
2016-01-29 20:32:05	OnlyQubes	Hmm, thats might be the problem
2016-01-29 20:32:27	+Fador	the problem is the packet length since you have no idea how long the first varint will be =)
2016-01-29 20:32:46	OnlyQubes	yeah thats the hard part, i guess i would need to wait for 5 bytes, thats the max size of a varint
2016-01-29 20:33:46	OnlyQubes	I can actually check if it gets a -1, witch means there are no bytes to read
2016-01-29 20:34:09	OnlyQubes	So ill check if it gets a -1, if it does that would be the problem
2016-01-29 20:35:04	+Fador	it looks like stream.Read() should return the number of bytes read..
2016-01-29 20:36:13	OnlyQubes	oh wops thats the wrong code in the pastebin
2016-01-29 20:36:15	OnlyQubes	ill update it
2016-01-29 20:36:21	+Fador	=)
2016-01-29 20:37:47	OnlyQubes	http://pastebin.com/dC1N2rs4 here it is, i read a single byte now straight from the stream
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2016-01-29 20:48:11	hansihe	Fenhl: sorry for being lazy and not figuring this out myself, but what would be the easiest way to plug my world generator into hematite for testing?
2016-01-29 20:49:22	Fenhl	hansihe: not sure
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2016-01-29 20:53:24	OnlyQubes	Seems like packets with lenght of about 9k aren't being read, the varint says its 36k, but its trully about 9k bytes
2016-01-29 20:55:09	Fenhl	hansihe: you would need to replace the initial chunk packets sent on player login, and if you want to see more than the initial radius you will need to implement move packet handling
2016-01-29 20:56:06	hansihe	Fenhl: can't hematite load minecraft chunks and let you render them?
2016-01-29 20:57:24	Fenhl	oh, the client? Yes
2016-01-29 20:58:41	hansihe	probably modify minecraft/region.rs, then
2016-01-29 20:59:17	hansihe	then provide it an existing player file and stuff to get up and running quickly
2016-01-29 20:59:22	hansihe	unless there is an easier way
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2016-01-29 22:01:06	hansihe	think i may have fucked up the coordinate order somewhere https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Lka6pnkI/2016-01-29_21.58.44.png
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2016-01-30 07:47:56	rom15043	:D
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2016-01-30 13:20:55	morfin	hello, is that some magic
2016-01-30 13:21:02	morfin	TileEntityData:{Command:"summon FallingSand ~-1 ~2 ~13 {Riding:{Riding:{Riding:{Riding:{Riding:{Riding:{Riding:{TileEntityData:...
2016-01-30 13:29:44	rom15043	Attaching(/riding) is recursive
2016-01-30 13:30:33	rom15043	http://download.rom1504.fr/minecraft/mc-giant-pile.png
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2016-01-30 13:35:35	morfin	riding can be recursive
2016-01-30 13:35:38	morfin	Oo
2016-01-30 13:36:03	morfin	is there other situations where you can have nested "blocks"?
2016-01-30 13:47:04	rom15043	Nbt is recursive
2016-01-30 13:47:10	rom15043	And json
2016-01-30 13:47:31	rom15043	So chat messages can have nested messages too
2016-01-30 13:47:58	rom15043	Not sure if there are any other nested entities, I don't think so
2016-01-30 14:35:05	+Grum	<+Thinkofname> Grum: in (what we call) NetworkManager, why is a concurrent queue guarded with a lock? <-- no idea, is it? :/
2016-01-30 14:46:16	+Thinkofname	Grum: http://hastebin.com/nadidutema.java both fields i and j
2016-01-30 15:57:33	morfin	i just saw some code finishing by }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
2016-01-30 15:58:03	morfin	*command for command block
2016-01-30 16:22:25	Gjum	well chests can contain chests containing chests...
2016-01-30 16:24:22	+SinZ	0.o
2016-01-30 16:28:54	kahrl	they can be infinitely nested, even
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2016-01-30 16:36:50	rom15043	A chest can contain block entities oO ?
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2016-01-30 16:40:59	hansihe	this went deeper then i thought
2016-01-30 16:41:08	hansihe	it's entities all the way down
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2016-01-30 16:52:45	Gjum	rom15043: when you, in creative, control-middleckick a chest with a chest inside, you can place the item you get inside another chest and pick that one up, etc.
2016-01-30 16:54:07	Gjum	application and explanation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWEeM03rnh4&t=4m30s
2016-01-30 17:05:20	rom15043	Oh okay
2016-01-30 17:25:50	morfin	chests in chest?
2016-01-30 17:25:53	morfin	holy crap
2016-01-30 17:27:39	morfin	1728^512 items
2016-01-30 17:28:09	rom15043	How do you compute that ?
2016-01-30 17:28:20	morfin	i did not 
2016-01-30 17:28:25	morfin	that guy in video did
2016-01-30 17:28:31	rom15043	I think the only limitation is on the size of nbt
2016-01-30 17:28:36	morfin	yes as he said
2016-01-30 17:28:41	rom15043	Ok
2016-01-30 17:29:25	morfin	NBT have limit of 512 
2016-01-30 17:40:34	morfin	i am not  sure only in one thing: how he nested chest in the chest in the chest ...
2016-01-30 17:40:55	morfin	could such thing be done without mods?
2016-01-30 17:43:01	Gjum	morfin: that video is purely about vanilla possibilities
2016-01-30 17:44:01	morfin	hmm
2016-01-30 17:44:32	morfin	but how you'll do that 
2016-01-30 17:44:39	morfin	command blocks?
2016-01-30 17:45:02	morfin	or just thing like MCEdit
2016-01-30 17:45:44	morfin	put 27 stacks of chests containing 27 stacks of chests containing 27 stacks of chests etc etc
2016-01-30 17:45:55	morfin	*in 
2016-01-30 17:57:04	Gjum	morfin: like I said and like he shows it in the video: hold CTRL and middle-click the chest in creative
2016-01-30 18:03:45	kahrl	this is what I was referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBaKirPsGIw
2016-01-30 18:04:41	kahrl	it's truly infinitely nested, not limited by the NBT depth limit of 512
2016-01-30 18:08:49	Gjum	ah, great application of loot tables, very cool
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2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	williammck (~williammc@unaffiliated/williammck) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Jckf (jckf@mikros.flaten.it) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	humerusj (~humerusj@unaffiliated/humerusj) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	clonejo_ (~clonejo@shakik.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	shoghicp (~shoghicp@bouncer.pocketmine.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	xSke (~Voltasalt@ske.pw) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Dadido3_ (~quassel@pD9E194DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Dinnerbone (dinnerbone@i.like.butts.and.my.name.is.dinnerbone.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	ammar2 (admin@ec2-52-4-212-228.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Aikar (~Aikar@wikia/Aikar) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Frigolit (~frigolit@aisaka.frigolit.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	dx (~dx@unaffiliated/dxdx) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	fragmer (~fragmer@45.55.2.85) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	ferrybig (~ferrybig@ferrybig.no-ip.info) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	kev009 (~kev009@tempe0.bbox.io) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	--	Mode #mcdevs [+vvvv Dinnerbone ammar2 fragmer kev009] par adams.freenode.net
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Meeeh (~Meeeh@diorite.org) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	dexter0 (~dexter0@c-73-222-1-210.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	aet2505 (~aet2505@45.55.237.47) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	samfty_ (~Sam@atom.cloud.faunt.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	prplz (prplz@when.i.am.bored.i.buy.silly.domains) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	fortytwo (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	MeWulf_ (~quassel@2001:41d0:1:d298::1) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Byteflux (~Byteflux@2607:5300:60:7b5a::) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	zz_r04r (r04r@unaffiliated/r04r) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	nickelpro (nick@the.one.and.only.nickelp.ro) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Morrolan (morrolan@castle.morrolan.ch) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	TobiX (tobias@zoidberg.org) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	deathrat (sid14886@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxyhrfvhzbguahuc) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	rom1504 (rom1504@rom1504.fr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	gamingrobot (sid10990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-neebqwwlojyfhltn) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	YukonAppleGeek (~Yukon@sfo01.yukon.io) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	angal (angal@elmo.stole-your.pw) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Not-24d4 (~notifico@198.199.82.216) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Thinkofname (Think@oops.i.broke.thinkofdeath.uk) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	cnr (~connor@unaffiliated/conehead) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	l4mRh4X0r (l4mRh4X0r@l4mrh4x0r.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	xnrand (xnrand@unaffiliated/xy) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Zaneo (~Zaneo@45.55.2.85) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	bcjordan_ (~bcjordan@ec2-54-172-35-148.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	M-ou-se (~m-ou.se@m-ou.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	--	Mode #mcdevs [+vv Thinkofname Zaneo] par adams.freenode.net
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	ShaRose (ShaRose@i.am.sharo.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Pyker (pyker@pyker.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	SinZ (~SinZ@CPE-121-220-7-24.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	ashka (~postmaste@pdpc/supporter/active/ashka) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	NickG365 (~NickG365@cortex.starlabs.theflash.rocks) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Guest37385 (~Aster@destrock.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	shevchik (~shevchik@89.169.92.204) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	aeonchild (enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	programmerq (~jefferya@unaffiliated/programmerq) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	yosafbridge` (~yosafbrid@2607:5300:100:200::160d) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Cxom2 (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:2839:1996:67e4:265a) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	|Blaze| (~scott@184.70.189.74) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	IceAP (~Ice@46.166.137.198) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	__0x277F (~knm@unaffiliated/--0x277f/x-3357507) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	AndrewPH (Butts@omega.classicube.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	PhonicUK (~PhonicUK@pdpc/supporter/student/phonicuk) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	mfj (~kvirc@202.55.151.66) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	winny (20025@unaffiliated/winstonw) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Harry5573 (~Harry5573@46.101.12.90) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Brandon15811 (~Brandon15@195-154-68-209.rev.poneytelecom.eu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Grum (~grum@irc.grum.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	--	Mode #mcdevs [+vvvv SinZ AndrewPH SpaceManiac Grum] par adams.freenode.net
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	TheUnnamedDude (bnc@2001:41d0:1:68a3::37) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Z750 (bnc@2001:41d0:1:68a3::45) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Dykam (~Dykam@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::da:5001) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	kashike (kashike@unaffiliated/kashike) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Paprikachu (~pap@play2win.io) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	SupaHam (~SupaHam@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::29c:3001) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	n3rd (n3rd@Hoth.Shadow-Dev.org) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	x56 (0x56@unaffiliated/x56) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	LaxWasThere (~Lax@2607:5300:60:48d7::) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	m0r13_ (~m0r13@2a01:4f8:201:8174:73:0:b00b:135) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	LordAkkarin (~Akkarin@resides.in.redundant.space) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Brandon15811_ (~Brandon15@2001:bc8:3111:200::) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	hansihe (sid106603@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijddcmmzrwsestra) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	jamietech (~jamietech@jamietech.jbouncer.jamiete.ch) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	md_5 (~md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Fador (fador@hentai.fi) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	Jeebiss (sid25046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-erbrnbnkfrgyulem) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	EvilJStoker (jstoker@unaffiliated/jstoker) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	--	Mode #mcdevs [+vv md_5 Fador] par adams.freenode.net
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	ryan-c (~ryan@srv1.turboslow.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	vemacs_ (~vemacs@jet.fuel.cant.melt.da.nkmem.es) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	dav1d (~dav1d@unaffiliated/dav1d) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	-->	ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:30:53	--	Mode #mcdevs [+o ChanServ] par adams.freenode.net
2016-01-31 13:31:04	<--	aeonchild (enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-01-31 13:31:05	-->	kahrl (~kahrl@ipservice-092-211-075-232.092.211.pools.vodafone-ip.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:05	-->	yorick (~yorick@oftn/member/yorick) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:05	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@p5DC8ADCC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2016-01-31 13:31:05	-->	zahlex (~zahlex@212.224.123.168) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:05	-->	Prf_Jakob (jakob@void-network.org) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:05	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Prf_Jakob] par adams.freenode.net
2016-01-31 13:31:09	-->	realz (~realz@unaffiliated/realazthat) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:09	-->	laxask (~lax@unaffiliated/laxask) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:09	-->	unascribed (~aesen@everybody.do.the.net.split.unascribed.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:09	-->	AlJaMa (~quassel@unaffiliated/aljama) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:09	-->	dranghek (~darngeek@bouncer.pocketmine.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2016-01-31 13:31:09	-->	iBotPeaches (ibotpeache@pdpc/supporter/student/ibotpeaches) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:09	-->	Gjum (~Gjum@217.160.135.244) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:09	-->	ylt (ylt@5.9.84.39) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:09	-->	tktech (~tktech@ec2-52-70-105-60.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:24	-->	aeonchild (enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:47	-->	MrARM (~MrARM@unaffiliated/mrarm) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:31:52	-->	laxask_ (~lax@unaffiliated/laxask) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:32:14	-->	Owexz (~Owexz@2001:19f0:5800:8cc1:5400:ff:fe0c:f993) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:32:14	-->	Zachoz (~Zachoz@2001:19f0:5800:8483:5400:ff:fe06:49ea) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:32:14	-->	ScruffyRules (~Scruff@2001:19f0:5800:8483:5400:ff:fe06:49ea) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:32:14	-->	WizardCM (~WizardCM@atom.cloud.faunt.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:32:23	<--	bcjordan_ (~bcjordan@ec2-54-172-35-148.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a quitté (*.net *.split)
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2016-01-31 13:32:45	-->	bcjordan_ (~bcjordan@ec2-54-172-35-148.compute-1.amazonaws.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:32:45	-->	Zaneo (~Zaneo@45.55.2.85) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:32:45	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Zaneo] par adams.freenode.net
2016-01-31 13:33:01	-->	realz_ (~realz@pool-108-30-23-115.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 13:33:19	-->	AlJaMa_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/aljama) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2016-01-31 13:36:31	<--	AlJaMa (~quassel@unaffiliated/aljama) a quitté (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
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2016-01-31 13:36:35	<--	realz (~realz@unaffiliated/realazthat) a quitté (Max SendQ exceeded)
2016-01-31 14:00:23	-->	M4GNV5 (~M4GNV5@p54988640.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 14:02:01	M4GNV5	is there still a repo with up-to-date source of minecraft or should one just use smth like jdgui and decompile it himself?
2016-01-31 14:03:05	Gjum	M4GNV5: publishing the source code in a repo would violate the terms of use, but you can decompile it for yourself
2016-01-31 14:06:47	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2016-01-31 14:09:54	Meeeh	M4GNV5, but use fernflower instead of jd-gui
2016-01-31 14:20:29	<--	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-01-31 14:29:17	Gjum	Meeeh: any idea why fernflower creates so many unicode snowmen for me?
2016-01-31 14:30:13	Meeeh	Gjum, you need use flag that will ignore variable name tables
2016-01-31 14:30:30	Meeeh	then it will name them like var1/var2 etc
2016-01-31 14:34:47	Gjum	Meeeh: you mean udv=0 ?
2016-01-31 14:37:31	rom15043	Ah yeah but loot table is a Minecraft saves concept if I understand correctly. So you can't create infinite chests from the game.
2016-01-31 14:38:19	Meeeh	Gjum, idk, I don't remember :D
2016-01-31 14:38:24	Gjum	you can in 1.9 with commands I believe
2016-01-31 14:38:45	Gjum	ok, I'll just try it out then
2016-01-31 14:43:57	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 14:53:11	rom15043	Gjum: but then commands are limited to 32 characters
2016-01-31 14:53:58	rom15043	32k
2016-01-31 14:55:45	rom15043	Doesn't the server send the full nbt of an item anyway?
2016-01-31 14:55:49	Meeeh	rom15043, hyym command block should be able to handle longer string, but you need find other way to add text to it
2016-01-31 14:56:29	rom15043	Doesn't the server check the limit ?
2016-01-31 14:57:08	Meeeh	hyym, idk, I never see any other limit than in packets
2016-01-31 14:57:55	rom15043	I mean, you do understand that if you can create an infinitely nested item, if is something that can be exploited to crash the server and/or other players (from a client) ?
2016-01-31 14:58:06	rom15043	*it
2016-01-31 14:58:30	rom15043	Except if it is lazy in some way
2016-01-31 14:58:41	Meeeh	you CAN crash server/client with NBT
2016-01-31 14:59:07	rom15043	Wasn't it fixed a while ago ?
2016-01-31 14:59:17	Meeeh	but it was blocked in one of spigot updates, and possible in 1.9 too, but not fully as far as I know
2016-01-31 15:00:11	rom15043	Ok
2016-01-31 15:00:23	Meeeh	I still see some people that say they crash severs with that and user that say that they were crashed, but... they don't trust me enough to allow me check what is that...
2016-01-31 15:01:02	Meeeh	and don't want install my plugin that just save packets to file :<
2016-01-31 15:01:33	Meeeh	so I can't confirm anything
2016-01-31 15:12:59	Gjum	there is no infinite command, yes, but you can use loot tables which generate new items on the fly, so you have theoretical infinity
2016-01-31 15:13:39	Gjum	which would be lazily evaluated, exactly
2016-01-31 15:21:11	Gjum	great, -udv=0 worked, thanks Meeeh :)
2016-01-31 15:58:48	<--	yosafbridge` (~yosafbrid@2607:5300:100:200::160d) a quitté (K-Lined)
2016-01-31 15:59:13	-->	yosafbridge (~yosafbrid@105.ip-167-114-152.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 16:02:58	<--	realz_ (~realz@pool-108-30-23-115.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) a quitté (Changing host)
2016-01-31 16:02:58	-->	realz_ (~realz@unaffiliated/realazthat) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-01-31 16:03:00	--	realz_ est maintenant connu sous le nom realz
2016-01-31 16:09:49	rom15043	Yes that makes sense. Hopefully the server checks that case and doesn't let loot tables actually generate > 512 nbt, or it will crash something
2016-01-31 16:10:47	rom15043	Ah
2016-01-31 16:10:52	rom15043	But then I guess the server never send the full nbt representation of chests over the protocol
2016-01-31 16:10:57	rom15043	So it's probably ok
2016-01-31 16:11:49	Meeeh	that are only loot tables
2016-01-31 16:11:55	Meeeh	they should be server side
2016-01-31 16:12:06	rom15043	It uses the inventory packets to send the content
2016-01-31 16:12:08	Meeeh	client should only get generated chest
2016-01-31 16:12:48	Gjum	exactly. the only case where the client gets to see the word loot table is when it gets a placeable chest item with that tag
2016-01-31 16:14:31	rom15043	Not sure what that means for the size of a region file though
2016-01-31 16:14:34	Meeeh	Gjum, hyym, isn't this tag contains only loot table name?
2016-01-31 16:14:42	Meeeh	that is still read from server?
2016-01-31 16:14:59	rom15043	Could it be used to make infinitely big region files?
2016-01-31 16:15:24	Meeeh	region size can't be infinitely big
2016-01-31 16:15:27	Meeeh	there is hard limit
2016-01-31 16:15:30	rom15043	Yes
2016-01-31 16:15:35	rom15043	So crash
2016-01-31 16:15:45	Meeeh	loot tables are saved in separate files
2016-01-31 16:15:51	Meeeh	and server only use name of them
2016-01-31 16:15:54	Meeeh	in save files
2016-01-31 16:16:00	rom15043	Or it just wouldn't save these chests
2016-01-31 16:16:01	Meeeh	or item nbt
2016-01-31 16:16:01	Meeeh	etc
2016-01-31 16:16:22	Meeeh	at leat this is how it should work as far as I know
2016-01-31 16:17:50	rom15043	Yea but loot table create a real chest, which create a real chest,... The server eventually has to try to save this. Which is not in loot table at that point.
2016-01-31 16:19:02	Meeeh	then it is normal chest, like it always was, so no new problem, it is possible to create too big NBT data
2016-01-31 16:19:13	Meeeh	and you can't do anything about that :{
2016-01-31 16:19:31	Meeeh	or you can, if you chreate own save system ofc
2016-01-31 16:19:35	Meeeh	create*
2016-01-31 16:21:30	rom15043	Ok so that means it's infinite only until you restart the server and the chest info is gone
2016-01-31 16:22:01	Gjum	no
2016-01-31 16:22:51	Gjum	the loot table only evaluates into a full chest when it is placed and opened, as long as the chest item with that tah is in some inventory (eg another chest), it is not evaluated (lazy)
2016-01-31 16:24:03	rom15043	Ah, so you can't place items in that "infinite" chest
2016-01-31 16:24:16	Gjum	so your region stores tiles: [ { type:chest (already placed and opened), items: [ {type: chest, lootTable: someTable123}, ... ] }, ... ]
2016-01-31 16:24:43	Gjum	exactly, as only the first 1/2/few are evaluated
2016-01-31 16:25:12	Gjum	and they even change if you update the server's loot tables
2016-01-31 16:25:53	rom15043	Yeah OK and "few" is <512
2016-01-31 16:26:15	rom15043	Ok
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2016-01-31 19:53:32	morfin	hey guys
2016-01-31 19:56:20	morfin	remember you said you could put NBT in a chest, commands probably can do that even without commandblock but it seems like you have to use syntax {Item:{id:#,Damage:#,Count:#,tag:{Item NBT data here}}}
2016-01-31 19:57:08	morfin	could such syntax be parsed with regular JSON parser?
2016-01-31 19:58:11	Gjum	well it is mojangson I believe, so maybe
2016-01-31 19:58:41	morfin	it seems to be proper JSON expression for me, well it have "objects", "arrays", "numeric", etc
2016-01-31 19:59:07	morfin	otherwise i will need write own lexer  to parse that which is not good idea for me :) 
2016-01-31 20:00:38	morfin	there is lots of non-standard things: 
2016-01-31 20:00:57	morfin	AttributeModifiers:[0:{AttributeName,Name,Amount,Operation}
2016-01-31 20:02:00	morfin	i think that's bad JSON
2016-01-31 20:12:59	morfin	lexer to parse that is huge
2016-01-31 20:13:44	morfin	well, not as huge as YAML parser but big enough(it's called JsonToNBT)
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2016-01-31 20:33:17	M4GNV5	morfin, the mojangjson is not just bad its incorrect, let me give you a small example: create a commandblock with "foo" in it then run /blockdata x y z {"Command":"bar"} and check the commandblock, it will still have the command "foo" its blockdata will now look smth like {Command:"foo","Command":"bar"}
2016-01-31 20:33:50	M4GNV5	(just a thing to keep in mind when writing your own parser)
2016-01-31 20:35:11	morfin	wow
2016-01-31 20:35:30	morfin	why the heck they did not just use plain JSON
2016-01-31 20:37:11	M4GNV5	well at some parts its understandable for more typings like 42b or 3.14d etc.
2016-01-31 20:38:12	M4GNV5	also indexed arrays can be usefull when e.g. blockdata'ing the inventory fo a chest so you dont have to write 20 null, for placing an item in slot 21
2016-01-31 20:38:35	M4GNV5	but parsing correct json incorrectly... meh
2016-01-31 20:39:17	morfin	ha
2016-01-31 20:39:34	morfin	you mean [0:{...}, 20: {...}]?
2016-01-31 20:39:38	morfin	array with holes
2016-01-31 20:39:59	morfin	yes writing lots of nulls would be crap
2016-01-31 20:43:24	M4GNV5	im not quite sure but if i recall correctly minecraft uses some google json lib called gson or smth? if your project is written in java maybe you can achieve your stuff using that one too, otherwise i guess checking it out might not a bad idea anyways
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2016-01-31 20:45:59	M4GNV5	https://github.com/google/gson
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2016-01-31 21:12:36	hansihe	basic terrain gen is working https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5adPBBVz/2016-01-31_21.01.19.png
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2016-01-31 21:53:50	Pangea	morfin, https://github.com/rom1504/node-mojangson might help
2016-01-31 21:53:54	Pangea	there are some other parsers out there I think
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2016-01-31 22:40:59	rom15043	Yeah mojangson definitely isn't json
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2016-01-31 22:42:27	rom15043	But I believe the point is there is a bijection between mojangson and nbt
2016-01-31 22:42:49	rom15043	Not that it's the only way to encode nbt textually
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2016-01-31 22:51:10	hansihe	in what cases would a server have to parse mojangson?
2016-01-31 22:51:28	hansihe	well, chat commands i presume
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2016-01-31 22:56:15	rom15043	Yeah chat commands with nbt I think. Probably /summon . I've only used mojangson in the client in hoverevent of chat
2016-01-31 22:56:58	Gjum	signs can also have mojangson I believe, or is that json?
2016-01-31 22:58:17	M4GNV5	afaik in the snapshots "chat" things like books, tellraw, signs etc. use strict json
2016-01-31 22:59:19	Gjum	ah nice
2016-01-31 22:59:31	rom15043	There's a difference between the "non strict json" that was previously accepted in the chat and mojangson
2016-01-31 22:59:53	rom15043	The hoverevent in the chat is mojangson in json
2016-01-31 23:00:01	hansihe	oO
2016-01-31 23:00:12	Gjum	in a json string right?
2016-01-31 23:00:28	rom15043	 "hoverevent":" some mojangson there"
2016-01-31 23:00:36	rom15043	Yeah
2016-01-31 23:00:44	hansihe	right
2016-01-31 23:00:48	Gjum	ok
2016-01-31 23:01:34	rom15043	Basically nbt has typed numbers, so you can't just encode nbt in a naive json
2016-01-31 23:01:45	rom15043	You need to indicate the types somehow
2016-01-31 23:02:06	rom15043	Or you lose the type information and can't encode it back
2016-01-31 23:02:49	hansihe	that could be fixed by making the nbt parser take non-lossy conversions though
2016-01-31 23:02:50	M4GNV5	you could also let the parser try to convert the json number to the given type and throw smth if the number doesnt fit in the type
2016-01-31 23:03:09	hansihe	idk, the approach seems a bit overkill
2016-01-31 23:03:45	M4GNV5	i dont know how powerfull java reflection is but it doesnt seem to hard to implement to me
2016-01-31 23:03:53	rom15043	It's possible to do https://github.com/PrismarineJS/prismarine-nbt/blob/master/sample/bigtest.js instead of mojangson though
2016-01-31 23:04:15	hansihe	like, if you have a byte nbt tag, and the parser is expecting an integer, just cast the byte to int
2016-01-31 23:04:45	rom15043	hansihe: that means you need to know the expected schema
2016-01-31 23:04:50	M4GNV5	rom15043, well thats some workaround cuz js doesnt have typing needed for parsing nbt files
2016-01-31 23:04:56	rom15043	You don't know that in lot of cases
2016-01-31 23:05:00	hansihe	rom15043: how is it done in java?
2016-01-31 23:05:30	hansihe	i would thing you have a compound tag object, you call read<type> on it
2016-01-31 23:05:35	hansihe	think*
2016-01-31 23:05:44	hansihe	in that case you could do what i said
2016-01-31 23:05:49	rom15043	M4GNV5: well that link was basically json ;)
2016-01-31 23:06:15	rom15043	Which is why I'm saying you need to add some info if you want to encode nbt as json
2016-01-31 23:06:25	rom15043	Json doesn't have typed numbers
2016-01-31 23:06:32	rom15043	It only has "number"
2016-01-31 23:06:41	rom15043	And bool
2016-01-31 23:07:22	rom15043	hansihe: yes it is possible to encode nbt in types languages sure
2016-01-31 23:07:26	M4GNV5	true but in minecraft you just serialize a json to a known java type so you could use normal jsons in commands/chat and just cast the types
2016-01-31 23:07:41	M4GNV5	ofc you cannot display nbt files as normal json
2016-01-31 23:07:43	rom15043	So in java it's not a problem
2016-01-31 23:07:51	rom15043	In json it would be though
2016-01-31 23:07:56	hansihe	my point is, if you made the nbt parser more lenient, you could convert between pure json and nbt, the parser would read it regardless
2016-01-31 23:08:00	M4GNV5	yeah because you know the schema you convert it to
2016-01-31 23:08:12	M4GNV5	hansihe, +
2016-01-31 23:08:48	hansihe	as long as a number is a number, it would work
2016-01-31 23:09:00	M4GNV5	i guess the only reason why mojang is using gson is because its so super easy to implement. just a fromJson and toJson
2016-01-31 23:09:16	rom15043	Reading nbt is not the problem, the problem is writing nbt from (untyped) json
2016-01-31 23:09:44	rom15043	Without knowing the schema
2016-01-31 23:09:46	hansihe	say we have a nbt tag with an integer
2016-01-31 23:10:00	hansihe	the integer is 12, its of the type integer
2016-01-31 23:10:23	hansihe	converted into json, you would lose that type info, you would only know it's a number
2016-01-31 23:10:44	hansihe	when converting it back into nbt, it would get written as a byte, as it fits into that data type
2016-01-31 23:11:23	hansihe	when calling readInteger on the nbt parser, it would find a byte, no problem, it would upcast it to integer
2016-01-31 23:11:40	hansihe	would be safe to do, as long as it only casts upwards to a bigger data type
2016-01-31 23:12:17	rom15043	"when calling readInteger" except how do you know you need to do that ?
2016-01-31 23:13:03	hansihe	i don't know how java does nbt parsers
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2016-01-31 23:13:51	jast	there's no problem you can't solve with even more objects
2016-01-31 23:14:15	hansihe	but if they have a compound tag type object, which would make sense, you would call methods on it when reading values from the tag
2016-01-31 23:14:28	M4GNV5	rom15043, reflection
2016-01-31 23:15:51	hansihe	you wouldn't need reflection with the way i was thinking at least
2016-01-31 23:16:47	hansihe	but yeah, the way jnbt does it, the way i was talking about won't work
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2016-01-31 23:18:55	rom15043	Reflection = more objects = schema
2016-01-31 23:19:04	rom15043	If you know the schema sure
2016-01-31 23:19:34	rom15043	Otherwise if you're just trusting the type encoded in the nbt it doesn't work
2016-01-31 23:20:09	rom15043	But I guess it would be possible to know all the schemas
2016-01-31 23:20:40	hansihe	you wouldn't need to i think
2016-01-31 23:21:02	hansihe	you have code for parsing a hypothetical entity nbt tag thing
2016-01-31 23:21:15	rom15043	Hard coding all the readInt calls is an other way to encode the schema
2016-01-31 23:21:24	hansihe	yeah
2016-01-31 23:21:50	hansihe	it would be encoded in the actual code, no need to specify it separately
2016-01-31 23:22:11	rom15043	Yeah that's one way to do it
2016-01-31 23:22:17	hansihe	the read<type> methods would just try to do a non lossy conversion from the actual data type to the one you requested
2016-01-31 23:22:22	hansihe	if it can't it throws
2016-01-31 23:23:04	hansihe	don't think it would be too different from how it's done today
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2016-01-31 23:23:57	hansihe	things like byte arrays would still be a problem though, might not need to convert that to and from json though
2016-01-31 23:24:02	rom15043	Well afaik the types are always the same in nbt currently
2016-01-31 23:24:28	rom15043	They wouldn't be if we just guessed it from json
2016-01-31 23:24:53	rom15043	Except if you have to guess which nbt writing method to use from the json I guess
2016-01-31 23:24:58	rom15043	Not sure if that's possible
2016-01-31 23:25:13	hansihe	you just do the smallest datatype that would fit the value
2016-01-31 23:25:59	rom15043	Yes, that would work. I'm just saying you'd get a different nbt from what we have currently
2016-01-31 23:26:42	hansihe	yeah, it would require a change to nbt readers
2016-01-31 23:27:15	hansihe	i was thinking what mojang could do
2016-01-31 23:28:22	hansihe	does minecraft pe use nbt?
2016-01-31 23:29:50	hansihe	seems like it does, at least in the world file
2016-01-31 23:31:15	rom15043	http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Pocket_Edition_level_format
2016-01-31 23:31:40	rom15043	That says is doesn't anymore if I understand right
2016-01-31 23:31:45	rom15043	*it
2016-01-31 23:32:04	rom15043	Damn stupid Android completion, can you grammar
2016-01-31 23:33:08	hansihe	oh, right
2016-01-31 23:33:57	hansihe	well, i don't think dumping nbt is that bad of a thing
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2016-02-01 06:50:17	<--	yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-01 06:50:17	<--	Morrolan (morrolan@castle.morrolan.ch) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-01 06:50:17	<--	zz_r04r (r04r@unaffiliated/r04r) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-01 06:50:17	<--	Byteflux (~Byteflux@2607:5300:60:7b5a::) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-01 06:50:18	<--	MeWulf_ (~quassel@2001:41d0:1:d298::1) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-01 06:50:18	<--	fortytwo (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-01 06:50:18	<--	prplz (prplz@when.i.am.bored.i.buy.silly.domains) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-01 06:50:18	--	fortytwo_ est maintenant connu sous le nom fortytwo
2016-02-01 06:50:18	--	Thinkofdname_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Thinkofname
2016-02-01 06:50:19	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Thinkofname] par ChanServ
2016-02-01 06:50:36	--	prplz_ est maintenant connu sous le nom prplz
2016-02-01 06:50:37	--	cnr_ est maintenant connu sous le nom cnr
2016-02-01 06:50:37	<--	cnr (~connor@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2) a quitté (Changing host)
2016-02-01 06:50:37	-->	cnr (~connor@unaffiliated/conehead) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 06:51:17	-->	Byteflux (~Byteflux@2607:5300:60:7b5a::) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 06:52:06	-->	angal (angal@elmo.stole-your.pw) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 06:53:10	-->	zz_r04r (r04r@unaffiliated/r04r) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 06:55:58	-->	kashike (kashike@unaffiliated/kashike) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 07:08:20	--	yawkat` est maintenant connu sous le nom yawkat
2016-02-01 07:37:19	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 09:05:39	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 09:20:48	<--	Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2016-02-01 09:22:18	--	rom1504_ est maintenant connu sous le nom rom1504
2016-02-01 09:30:10	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2016-02-01 10:19:08	-->	l4mRh4X0r (l4mRh4X0r@l4mrh4x0r.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 10:48:13	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-02-01 10:48:35	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 10:55:40	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-02-01 10:55:42	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 11:35:34	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-01 11:42:57	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 11:53:07	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-02-01 11:54:35	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 12:56:20	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 247 seconds)
2016-02-01 12:57:17	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 13:13:02	-->	shevchik (~shevchik@89.169.10.163) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 13:29:17	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-02-01 13:30:13	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 14:42:42	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-02-01 14:49:33	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 15:31:40	-->	GaboFDC (~gabriel.d@190.24.231.69) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 17:47:33	Meeeh	NMS support multiple address bindings, it is used anywhere in vanilla?
2016-02-01 18:17:32	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@p4FCCE3E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 18:17:38	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-02-01 18:17:38	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2016-02-01 18:17:40	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@p4FCCE3E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Changing host)
2016-02-01 18:17:40	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 18:21:18	<--	shevchik (~shevchik@89.169.10.163) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2016-02-01 18:22:04	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2016-02-01 19:24:38	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@p4FCCF2D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 19:24:38	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@p4FCCF2D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Changing host)
2016-02-01 19:24:38	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 20:07:05	--	TobiX_ est maintenant connu sous le nom TobiX
2016-02-01 20:13:10	-->	shevchik (~shevchik@109.188.127.13) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 20:19:03	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-02-01 20:32:57	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 21:49:30	<--	shevchik (~shevchik@109.188.127.13) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2016-02-01 22:06:31	-->	shevchik (~shevchik@89.169.92.204) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 22:06:49	--	Krenair est maintenant connu sous le nom Krenair|busy
2016-02-01 22:14:38	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 22:16:40	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-02-01 22:16:41	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2016-02-01 22:24:55	<--	IceAP (~Ice@46.166.137.198) a quitté (Quit: Leaving)
2016-02-01 22:38:45	<--	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-02-01 22:41:13	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 23:02:43	<--	Dadido3_ (~quassel@pD9E194DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-02-01 23:04:07	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@pD9E194DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 23:13:43	-->	barneygale_ (~barneygal@90.197.169.26) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 23:20:50	-->	IceAP (~Ice@46.166.190.154) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-01 23:53:18	<--	barneygale_ (~barneygal@90.197.169.26) a quitté (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2016-02-02 00:16:25	-->	Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 00:17:13	-->	Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:e878:1033:9dcd:73e1) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 00:23:17	-->	barneygale_ (~barneygal@90.197.169.26) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 00:27:26	-->	Pangea_ (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 00:29:58	-->	Pangea__ (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 00:30:54	<--	Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2016-02-02 00:32:55	<--	Pangea_ (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-02-02 00:49:24	--	Krenair|busy est maintenant connu sous le nom Krenair
2016-02-02 00:56:45	<--	Pangea__ (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-02-02 02:11:32	<--	barneygale_ (~barneygal@90.197.169.26) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2016-02-02 02:57:16	<--	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-02-02 03:05:24	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r
2016-02-02 03:41:41	<--	SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté #mcdevs ("Leaving")
2016-02-02 04:33:47	-->	Pangea__ (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 06:01:41	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@pD9E194DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-02-02 06:47:43	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-02-02 06:47:56	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 06:52:31	<--	Pangea__ (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-02-02 07:00:42	-->	redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 07:03:18	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2016-02-02 07:03:18	--	redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper
2016-02-02 07:08:50	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 08:02:42	<--	shevchik (~shevchik@89.169.92.204) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2016-02-02 08:26:05	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-02-02 08:26:30	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 08:26:43	-->	barneygale_ (~barneygal@90.197.169.26) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 08:34:36	<--	barneygale_ (~barneygal@90.197.169.26) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2016-02-02 08:43:30	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-02-02 08:44:58	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 09:17:01	-->	barneygale_ (~barneygal@90.197.169.26) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 09:27:48	<--	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-02-02 09:36:16	-->	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 09:36:16	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ
2016-02-02 09:47:42	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 242 seconds)
2016-02-02 09:48:05	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 09:50:26	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2016-02-02 10:20:48	-->	PEMapModder (~PEMapModd@2604:180:2:579::27d3) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 10:35:55	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r
2016-02-02 10:48:08	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-02-02 10:48:45	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 11:08:33	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2016-02-02 11:15:10	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-02 11:22:20	<--	barneygale_ (~barneygal@90.197.169.26) a quitté (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2016-02-02 11:30:30	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 11:45:01	<--	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-02-02 11:45:46	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 12:31:45	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p5B00B7DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 12:45:03	<--	m0r13_ (~m0r13@2a01:4f8:201:8174:73:0:b00b:135) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2016-02-02 12:49:29	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r
2016-02-02 12:54:06	<--	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-02-02 12:54:12	-->	m0r13 (~m0r13@2a01:4f8:201:8174:73:0:b00b:135) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 12:57:09	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2016-02-02 12:59:09	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-02-02 12:59:26	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 13:08:53	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 13:12:11	-->	M4GNV5 (~M4GNV5@p54989775.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 13:35:23	<--	Dadido3 (~quassel@p5B00B7DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2016-02-02 13:36:04	-->	fortytwo_ (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 13:37:07	<--	fortytwo (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-02-02 13:37:08	<--	GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-02-02 13:37:08	<--	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-02-02 13:37:41	-->	_123DMWM (~123DMWM@c-73-238-243-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 13:38:18	-->	GunfighterJ (gunfighter@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 13:38:36	<--	deathrat (sid14886@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wgqjigwoppacpwzz) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2016-02-02 13:40:06	-->	deathrat (sid14886@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tkrvmyfeqkbcnmap) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 14:07:25	<--	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2016-02-02 14:10:23	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 14:18:55	<--	fortytwo_ (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-02 14:18:55	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (*.net *.split)
2016-02-02 14:19:56	-->	fortytwo (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 14:24:47	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 14:39:15	<--	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2016-02-02 14:39:36	<--	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2016-02-02 14:40:27	-->	Deaygo (~Deaygo@107.161.31.15) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 14:56:02	-->	Dadido3 (~quassel@p5B00A72D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 15:13:22	-->	olmanmike (~oldmanmik@159.28.7.248) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 15:14:43	<--	olmanmike (~oldmanmik@159.28.7.248) a quitté (Client Quit)
2016-02-02 15:35:05	-->	williamtdr (uid27909@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-edbkhgccmpkssbwf) a rejoint #mcdevs
2016-02-02 15:35:35	hansihe	got biomes working https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/XYB8RBHX/2016-02-02_15.35.04.png
2016-02-02 15:37:55	rom1504	nice!
2016-02-02 15:38:20	rom1504	do you plan on doing population too ? (and do you want to do it as minecraft does it : 2 steps, or not ?)
2016-02-02 15:40:08	rom1504	I wanted to do it all in one step, but that requires handling multi-chunk stuff and that's not quite convenient
2016-02-02 15:49:07	hansihe	how does minecraft do it?
2016-02-02 15:49:29	hansihe	2 steps?
2016-02-02 15:55:44	hansihe	but yeah, i will try to do a fairly complete minecraft world generator
2016-02-02 15:57:16	rom1504	yes minecraft does it in 2 steps
2016-02-02 15:57:32	rom1504	it adds trees and dungeons and ... in the second step (called population)
2016-02-02 15:58:09	rom1504	but trees can be in several chunks
2016-02-02 15:58:25	rom1504	(putting a tree in the middle of a chunk is not a problem)
2016-02-02 15:59:01	hansihe	oh yeah, i thought about that
2016-02-02 16:00:37	hansihe	oh, so minecraft adds the stuff it can add at generation, adds stuff like trees when it has all the chunks needed?
2016-02-02 16:00:52	hansihe	don't know if i like that
2016-02-02 16:01:08	hansihe	not sure if you can get away from it easily though
2016-02-02 16:03:08	rom1504	yeah first it generate all the chunk of some area then add stuff to it
2016-02-02 16:03:25	rom1504	when someone gets near I think
2016-02-02 16:03:39	rom1504	if you fly fast enough, you'll see trees appear after the rest
2016-02-02 16:03:42	hansihe	hmm
2016-02-02 16:03:52	rom1504	I don't like this too much either
2016-02-02 16:04:20	hansihe	okey, but solutions
2016-02-02 16:04:28	hansihe	generate overlap?
2016-02-02 16:04:37	hansihe	that would be expensive
2016-02-02 16:05:26	hansihe	it would be possible to generate a rough surface mesh instead of solid blocks