2015-10-22 15:33:03	Fenhl	for servers, that is :P
2015-10-22 15:33:04	barneygale	not if you're writing a client
2015-10-22 15:33:06	barneygale	yeah..
2015-10-22 15:33:20	roblabla	barneygale, I thought encryption was required for offline_mode too now ._.
2015-10-22 15:33:34	Digot	im writing a server though
2015-10-22 15:33:43	barneygale	roblabla, not in 1.8. I'm not sure about 1.9
2015-10-22 15:33:56	Digot	is compressing and encrypting optional?
2015-10-22 15:33:58	rom1504	barneygale: yeah, but if you don't compress packets, you're going to have big problems with the chunks packets (I did that mistake :D)
2015-10-22 15:34:06	Digot	if im writing a server?
2015-10-22 15:34:10	roblabla	Digot, as a server you can chose to completely ignore compression
2015-10-22 15:34:23	Digot	but encryption?
2015-10-22 15:34:34	barneygale	Digot, if you want to authenticate clients, you need to implement encryption
2015-10-22 15:34:38	roblabla	If you just want offline mode, then encryption is optional too apparently, didn't know that
2015-10-22 15:34:41	Digot	damn
2015-10-22 15:34:44	rom1504	(sending the chunk packet uncompressed is a few MB, that can take some time)
2015-10-22 15:34:49	roblabla	Digot, tbh encryption is really easy
2015-10-22 15:34:56	roblabla	C# takes care of most of it for you
2015-10-22 15:34:59	Digot	ok i'm waiting for the c# code xd
2015-10-22 15:35:37	Fenhl	roblabla: For unauthenticated and localhost connections (either of the two conditions is enough for an unencrypted connection) there is no encryption. In that case Login Start is directly followed by Login Success.
2015-10-22 15:35:45	Fenhl	from the stable protocol docs
2015-10-22 15:37:31	rom1504	we might want to implement that in nmp hmm hmm
2015-10-22 15:38:03	roblabla	rom1504, yeah probably
2015-10-22 15:38:34	rom1504	ah it's already there for clients https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/c55865ef33bc6ba871364a5beddf1c6f091544f8/src/createClient.js#L50
2015-10-22 15:38:58	rom1504	if the server doesn't send the encryption begin packet, we don't start the encryption thing
2015-10-22 15:39:27	Digot	But for the server ping i dont need encryption right? :D
2015-10-22 15:39:32	roblabla	rom1504, nmp's createClient doesn't enforce encryption nor compression, contrary to the nmp client ^^
2015-10-22 15:39:51	roblabla	(E.G. if we receive a packet bigger than compression threshold uncompressed, we're ok with it)
2015-10-22 15:40:01	barneygale	Digot, you don't need encryption for server ping, correct
2015-10-22 15:40:06	Digot	ah okay
2015-10-22 15:40:09	Digot	so i can start simple
2015-10-22 15:40:19	Digot	this packet stuff is all new to me^^
2015-10-22 15:40:47	rom1504	"contrary to the nmp client" : why ? the nmp client(.js) just provide the functionnality, it does nothing about compression and encryption by itself
2015-10-22 15:40:54	roblabla	erm
2015-10-22 15:41:01	roblabla	I meant contray to the notchian client
2015-10-22 15:41:13	rom1504	ah yeah ok
2015-10-22 15:41:16	roblabla	and now letters be missing.
2015-10-22 15:42:00	rom1504	and it's actually implemented in createServer too https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/a80765549c2cd23099319c450260ad8dffb3f954/src/createServer.js#L128
2015-10-22 15:42:31	roblabla	rom1504, that's something else actually
2015-10-22 15:42:31	rom1504	onlineMode == false => no encryption_begin sent => no encryption
2015-10-22 15:42:38	roblabla	oh yeah
2015-10-22 15:42:49	roblabla	but we don't have the localhost one
2015-10-22 15:43:01	rom1504	ah yes
2015-10-22 15:43:27	roblabla	And we really ought to remove isException. I don't think anyone uses it and it's an eyesore >.<
2015-10-22 15:43:31	Digot	is only the server sending encrypted packets when in online mode?
2015-10-22 15:43:33	roblabla	not to mention it's pretty broken since the UUID update
2015-10-22 15:43:34	Digot	or the clienttoo?
2015-10-22 15:43:45	roblabla	Digot, both
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2015-10-22 16:45:23	Aikar	Grum, about the removeAll optimization - ran into some issues with pistons it seems. Does MC remove a tile entity instance then re-add it back ever? That was a logical flaw in the patch I sent you as it expects once removed to never re-add. So I redid my patch last night to handle that. Will resend once I'm comfortable that the changes are good, but so far no crash.
2015-10-22 16:45:55	Aikar	or more importantly, no "omg my TE's are all messed up"
2015-10-22 16:45:56	+Grum	the changes should be done against snapshots, its quite different now :(
2015-10-22 16:46:18	Aikar	i'm not using snapshots for my prod servers :P
2015-10-22 16:46:37	Aikar	but the latest revision is pretty simple unless youve gotten rid of the world list.... which would be a great idea!
2015-10-22 16:47:10	Aikar	https://bitbucket.org/starlis/empirecraft/src/370547af8682aeea56abb83094725468be671e72/patches/craftbukkit/0117-Optimize-Entity-and-Tile-Entity-Removal.patch?at=master&fileviewer=file-view-default
2015-10-22 16:47:20	Aikar	err
2015-10-22 16:47:23	Aikar	i didnt push last night
2015-10-22 16:47:24	Aikar	sec
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2015-10-22 16:49:30	Aikar	so for vanilla theres less diff, many of them were to get rid of cb/spigot tick position manipulation
2015-10-22 16:50:54	Aikar	but extending arraylist to redefine .remove(Object), removeAll(), add(E), addAll(Collection<E>) to change marker state. then add an extra .removeAll() after ticking to do post tick cleanup
2015-10-22 16:51:16	+Grum	Yeah not quite so keen on that honestly
2015-10-22 16:51:26	+Grum	i rather fracture the big array into smaller (per section)
2015-10-22 16:51:50	Aikar	well as i mentioned to you before, ticking based on chunks and using the chunk list is a better idea overall
2015-10-22 16:51:57	Aikar	as you then get better CPU cacheing
2015-10-22 16:52:41	AlphaBlend	hey Grum, i'm looking at the update notes for 15w37a, and you guys added a biome for The Void, does this mean biomes aren't strictly 32x256x32 blocks in size anymore?
2015-10-22 16:53:04	+Grum	AlphaBlend: i'm confused by that question, biomes have 'exact sizes' ?
2015-10-22 16:53:06	Aikar	http://timings.aikar.co/dev/?id=b7d76b79ee6c4d488134025b09a333f5&all=1&start=1445524676&end=1445525450#25_1   heres latest timings (and for the others - ive done some good work on v2 ui you can see)
2015-10-22 16:53:15	Aikar	you can see .removeAll pre and post are now super fast
2015-10-22 16:54:04	AlphaBlend	well Grum, it was my understanding that a wall of chunks from floor to ceiling all had the same biome, correct me please :D
2015-10-22 16:54:10	Aikar	post tile entity is still heavy, as many of the TE's are removed during the tick loop using that boolean on the tile entity
2015-10-22 16:54:20	Aikar	but way faster than before
2015-10-22 16:54:27	+Grum	a biome is a 2d map yes
2015-10-22 16:54:35	+Grum	so its 1x256x1 big
2015-10-22 16:54:41	AlphaBlend	oh i see
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2015-10-22 16:54:54	AlphaBlend	this new The Void makes me think that it no longer has to be 256 blocks high
2015-10-22 16:56:10	AlphaBlend	or was it never strictly 256 blocks in height, just nothing demanded anything lower than 256 blocks?
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2015-10-22 17:30:05	Fenhl	AlphaBlend: the void as in the space below the world and The Void as in the biome are entirely separate concepts
2015-10-22 17:30:27	AlphaBlend	i meant the biome The Void
2015-10-22 17:30:28	Fenhl	the void does not have a biome, and The Void only generates in Superflat
2015-10-22 17:30:36	AlphaBlend	oh
2015-10-22 17:30:45	AlphaBlend	then i did get confused
2015-10-22 17:30:50	AlphaBlend	that makes more sense
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2015-10-22 20:57:01	realz	hey fellas
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2015-10-22 21:47:39	realz	im looking for a library that can read mca or mcr files, for C or C++, that is not GPL'd
2015-10-22 21:47:43	realz	any pointers?
2015-10-22 21:57:01	Gjum	realz, what will you use it for?
2015-10-22 21:57:13	rom1504	why not GPL u_u
2015-10-22 21:58:40	realz	Gjum: for a project that i want to be BSD
2015-10-22 21:59:23	rom1504	cuberite has apache licence, so that's not gpl
2015-10-22 21:59:29	rom1504	look at that maybe
2015-10-22 22:01:15	realz	rom1504: thanks
2015-10-22 22:01:26	Gjum	realz, I made a 2d worldmap renderer in c++ in 2014, might still work https://github.com/Gjum/NBT-Cpp
2015-10-22 22:01:46	Gjum	it can read mca, no idea if its performant enough
2015-10-22 22:02:23	Gjum	has no license atm (o.O) but I can make it bsd if you wanna use it
2015-10-22 22:04:23	rom1504	Gjum: is nbt and mca the same format ?
2015-10-22 22:04:44	Gjum	mca is a collection of chunks, which are nbt
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2015-10-22 22:04:58	Gjum	or do I confuse something
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2015-10-22 22:05:49	Gjum	no, it's like I said http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Region_file_format
2015-10-22 22:06:07	rom1504	ok
2015-10-22 22:08:41	realz	Gjum: well, thanks :D, I'll take a look
2015-10-22 22:08:54	realz	just got a bit busy atm, so i'll look in a few
2015-10-22 22:09:11	Gjum	yup, just ping me here or open an issue
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2015-10-23 01:48:18	realz	Gjum: hey
2015-10-23 01:48:32	realz	so how would one use it with mca
2015-10-23 01:50:17	Gjum	Havent used it for a while, look at the world renderer, it uses pretty much everything in that repp
2015-10-23 01:50:23	Gjum	repo
2015-10-23 01:53:13	Gjum	realz: NBT::Tag * chunk = (new NBT::Tag)->loadFromChunk(worldpath, chunkx, chunkz);
2015-10-23 01:53:45	realz	that just works?
2015-10-23 01:53:47	realz	hmm
2015-10-23 01:53:48	realz	nice
2015-10-23 01:53:55	realz	Gjum: is there any file that lists all the chunks
2015-10-23 01:54:06	realz	or do you need to do that yourself by listing the filenames 
2015-10-23 01:57:08	Gjum	Look at the region filenames I remember writing some code that searches all region files for populated chunks
2015-10-23 01:57:41	realz	cool
2015-10-23 01:59:26	Gjum	Remember, that is old code thar needs testing and a rewrite, but probably helping a lot to get started
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2015-10-23 03:49:44	-->	Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 04:49:13	--	umby24 est maintenant connu sous le nom umby24|offline
2015-10-23 04:52:24	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r
2015-10-23 06:00:39	Aikar	nudge nudge Grum  - can you add a check for texture id to GameProfile.equals() on client >_> if you load 2 skulls for same player but with different texture ids, client uses the same cache for both :/
2015-10-23 06:01:02	Aikar	pretty sure i reported that to bugs
2015-10-23 06:04:31	Aikar	https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-91214
2015-10-23 06:04:54	Aikar	guess I didnt, but it is now
2015-10-23 06:04:58	Aikar	players bugging me about it :3
2015-10-23 06:07:21	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 06:30:44	-->	winny (20025@ninthfloor.org) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-10-23 06:59:43	<--	Pangea (~Pangea@unaffiliated/pangea) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
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2015-10-23 07:17:43	-->	kashike (kashike@unaffiliated/kashike) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-10-23 08:37:21	<--	RenegadeEagle (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a quitté (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)
2015-10-23 09:47:03	<--	arrrjt (~rjt@cpe-76-88-80-94.san.res.rr.com) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
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2015-10-23 10:53:18	rom15041	#vanillaSupport
2015-10-23 11:13:40	-->	Jailout20001 (~Jailout20@unaffiliated/jailout2000) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-10-23 11:23:01	-->	Voltasalt (~Voltasalt@ske.pw) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 11:30:17	-->	UUID016 (~UUID00@cpe-213-157-225-207.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 12:01:59	-->	Brandon15811___ (uid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oexkkufsbnxrpkjs) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 12:02:36	-->	deathrat_____ (sid14886@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ufjhzjgopfnewuku) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 12:02:47	-->	Pyker_ (pyker@pyker.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 12:03:16	-->	Frigolit_ (~frigolit@aisaka.frigolit.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 12:03:19	-->	rom1504_ (rom1504@rom1504.fr) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 12:03:47	-->	aet2505_ (~aet2505@45.55.237.47) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 12:08:10	<--	Pyker (pyker@pyker.net) a quitté (*.net *.split)
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2015-10-23 12:13:40	-->	SupaHam (~SupaHam@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::29c:3001) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 12:14:58	<--	ashka` (~postmaste@5.9.122.82) a quitté (Quit: En fait, le BSDiste, c'est comme l'homme politique, tu lui dis de quoi t'as besoin, il t'explique comment t'en passer)
2015-10-23 12:16:24	-->	ashka (~postmaste@pdpc/supporter/active/ashka) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 12:29:39	<--	Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Quit: So long!)
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2015-10-23 15:14:51	-->	progwml6 (~progwml6@n2-163-223.dhcp.drexel.edu) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-10-23 15:38:20	<--	williamtdr (uid27909@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzqqmxavemjbwdhq) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2015-10-23 15:46:32	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2015-10-23 16:54:04	-->	progwml6 (~progwml6@n2-163-223.dhcp.drexel.edu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 16:58:13	-->	onelann (3ce0ada5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.224.173.165) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 17:04:47	onelann	does anyone know what happened to the mc server implementation in golang called netherrack?
2015-10-23 17:11:23	rom1504_	https://github.com/skirmish/netherrack ?
2015-10-23 17:16:14	onelann	oh huh, couldn't find it. thanks.
2015-10-23 17:22:53	<--	Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2015-10-23 17:31:32	-->	Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 17:43:29	Fenhl	another Minecraft server named after a type of stone?
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2015-10-23 18:15:29	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@p579523DE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-10-23 19:28:27	-->	AlphaBlend (AlphaBlend@pool-173-58-38-132.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-10-23 19:46:27	-->	IceAP (~Ice@46.166.188.246) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-10-23 20:32:04	-->	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 20:46:22	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom DiggerNick
2015-10-23 20:51:06	<--	progwml6 (~progwml6@n2-163-223.dhcp.drexel.edu) a quitté (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2015-10-23 20:51:51	--	DiggerNick est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2015-10-23 21:02:54	roblabla	Fenhl, it's actually starting to get a bit hard to find a block name that doesn't have a corresponding minecraft project...
2015-10-23 21:03:07	roblabla	quick mojang, release new blocks :P
2015-10-23 21:05:23	-->	progwml6 (~progwml6@n2-163-223.dhcp.drexel.edu) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 21:10:38	+Grum	roblabla: fartblock!
2015-10-23 21:10:45	+Grum	contains all your hopes and dreams
2015-10-23 21:14:46	Fenhl	roblabla: just use minerals that aren't in Minecraft (yet)
2015-10-23 21:15:01	Fenhl	like Hematite
2015-10-23 21:15:04	Fenhl	problem solved
2015-10-23 21:15:18	Fenhl	(don't actually use hematite, it's already a thing)
2015-10-23 21:38:58	<--	Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a quitté (Max SendQ exceeded)
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2015-10-23 21:44:06	-->	Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-10-23 22:12:57	Gjum	no, it's the opposite: as there is a minecraft server impl called Hematite, there must also be a Hematite block in the game.
2015-10-23 22:19:55	<--	brandon__ (~brandon15@ip98-181-19-194.br.br.cox.net) a quitté (Quit: Leaving)
2015-10-23 22:21:12	Fenhl	well maybe they'll add a hematite block once we have something usable
2015-10-23 22:24:53	Gjum	they better not add it now, because it would make minecraft "not compile" :P
2015-10-23 23:00:51	<--	EvilJStoker (jstoker@unaffiliated/jstoker) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
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2015-10-24 01:20:38	<--	progwml6 (~progwml6@n2-163-223.dhcp.drexel.edu) a quitté (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2015-10-24 01:42:56	--	umby24|offline est maintenant connu sous le nom umby24
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2015-10-24 04:35:27	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r
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2015-10-24 13:59:17	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
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2015-10-24 17:17:34	Not-f7bb	[SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vWuhJ
2015-10-24 17:17:36	Not-f7bb	[SpockBot] nickelpro a6d54d0 - Update .gitignore
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2015-10-24 20:09:30	BizarreCake	'ello
2015-10-24 20:09:50	BizarreCake	I'm having trouble spawning other players, even though I'm sending a player list item packet.
2015-10-24 20:09:57	BizarreCake	Anyone have any idea what might be the cause?
2015-10-24 20:10:49	BizarreCake	the players aren't being spawned at all
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2015-10-24 20:36:35	+XorBoole	does anyone know if hitting escape in the downloading-resource-pack screen kills the download?
2015-10-24 20:45:34	rom1504	BizarreCake: do you send the named_entity_spawn packet ?
2015-10-24 20:46:06	rom1504	"Spawn Player" in wiki.vg names
2015-10-24 20:50:02	BizarreCake	Yep, and it's the packet that appears to have no effect for some reason
2015-10-24 20:50:41	BizarreCake	Maybe I'm setting properties wrong or something in the player list packet?
2015-10-24 20:51:03	BizarreCake	In online mode, I'm sending the same properties I get form the authentication server, and in offline mode, I send no properties at all
2015-10-24 20:51:14	BizarreCake	In both cases, players aren't being spawned.
2015-10-24 20:52:56	BizarreCake	Although they appear in the player list itself, I noticed that the heads of the skins positioned to the left of the usernames isn't skinned (just a Steve head) even though I'm supposedly sending the skin data (in online mode).
2015-10-24 20:58:14	rom1504	BizarreCake: can you see anything in the list when pressing tab ?
2015-10-24 20:58:18	rom1504	ah
2015-10-24 20:58:46	rom1504	are you sending the positions correctly ?
2015-10-24 21:00:52	BizarreCake	rom1504: I'm pretty sure I am, I'm aware the coordinates are sent as fixed point numbers.
2015-10-24 21:02:06	BizarreCake	I've tried looking at other servers' code, to see how they're doing it, and so far I'm not finding any striking differences.
2015-10-24 21:02:11	BizarreCake	which is why I'm confused :S
2015-10-24 21:04:54	rom1504	BizarreCake: are you handling the teleport packet ? (that needs to be sent when the client sent position is more than 32*4 away from the position the server last sent)
2015-10-24 21:08:40	ScruffyRules	XorBoole, Can always test
2015-10-24 21:08:50	ScruffyRules	Run a packet sniffer etc etc
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2015-10-24 21:10:34	BizarreCake	rom1504: The players I'm spawning are completely stationary, but I will try that.
2015-10-24 21:12:20	rom1504	might be stationnary, but is the client aware about that ?
2015-10-24 21:15:13	BizarreCake	Alright, just tried that, still nothing.
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2015-10-25 07:00:44	Egoscio	Hello there fellow mcdevs! Just out of curiosity, I wanted to know what are your opinions on when 1.9 will finally be released?
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2015-10-25 07:49:39	+Grum	Egoscio: after we do pre-releases
2015-10-25 07:53:39	Egoscio	Oh, okay. And MCP Will be released shortly after? I'm kind of new to the developer community so I'm not quite familiar with the development cycle.
2015-10-25 07:53:56	+Grum	MCP will update after yes, unknown how long that will take
2015-10-25 07:54:57	+Grum	but it is mostly forge's tooling that will matter
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2015-10-25 23:11:16	barneygale	Does anyone know what sort of nbt data can be sent via the Slot data type? So far I've seen enchantments and display name, anything else?
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2015-10-25 23:11:56	ScruffyRules	Probably lore
2015-10-25 23:12:00	 *	ScruffyRules knows nothing
2015-10-25 23:12:14	Gjum	pretty much anything custom of that item
2015-10-25 23:12:21	Gjum	attack modifiers for ex
2015-10-25 23:13:06	barneygale	OK, thanks
2015-10-25 23:13:46	barneygale	Another q: is for the format for plaintext data tags (e.g. as used in /give) documented anywhere? I guess it has a mapping with NBT
2015-10-25 23:13:47	Gjum	also chests with items in them
2015-10-25 23:13:56	Gjum	i.e. middle-click on a chest with chests
2015-10-25 23:14:09	barneygale	ahh right
2015-10-25 23:15:41	Gjum	barneygale, probably here http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Chunk_format
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2015-10-25 23:44:25	Not-f7bb	[GitHub] Responsive is better than fast.
2015-10-25 23:44:54	ScruffyRules	Sure?
2015-10-25 23:45:51	rom1504	barneygale: mojangson ?
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2015-10-26 04:04:55	nickelpro	barneygale: slots also hold page data for books, gamingrobot implemented that for SpockBot
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2015-10-26 04:35:59	gamingrobot	Page data, author and title
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2015-10-26 18:31:50	Not-f7bb	[flying-squid] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-1/±0] http://git.io/vW6Ov
2015-10-26 18:31:52	Not-f7bb	[flying-squid] rom1504 ae0faf7 - delete doc/README.md
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2015-10-26 18:34:23	Not-f7bb	[flying-squid] rom1504 f0808b3 - Some things got done in the roadmap I wouldn't say other dimensions or world generation are finished, but basic functionality is there.
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2015-10-26 19:38:27	realz	Gjum: working so far
2015-10-26 19:38:34	realz	nothing visible, but i see the data on the console
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2015-10-26 20:48:11	realz	Gjum: have some invalid types
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2015-10-26 20:55:01	Gjum	realz, I just added the bsd license. what types?
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2015-10-26 21:02:04	realz	eh i just got an assert
2015-10-26 21:02:08	realz	er rather
2015-10-26 21:02:16	realz	an invalid memory read i think
2015-10-26 21:02:40	realz	Gjum: these are the types: http://codepad.org/H4IRymPL
2015-10-26 21:04:52	realz	i just enabled your debug mode, so I'll see if it prints anything interesting before the invalid read
2015-10-26 21:05:12	Gjum	tbh I have no idea anymore what that code does :/
2015-10-26 21:08:25	realz	heh i'll take a look
2015-10-26 21:08:27	realz	if i cant solve it
2015-10-26 21:09:04	realz	i'll keep googling or try cuberite recommended by rom1504 
2015-10-26 21:09:12	Gjum	yea
2015-10-26 21:12:22	rom1504	https://github.com/cuberite/cuberite/blob/master/src/WorldStorage/FastNBT.cpp
2015-10-26 21:12:51	rom1504	but it's not independant as Gjum one so you'll probably have to copy it or something
2015-10-26 21:14:00	realz	thanks rom1504 
2015-10-26 21:14:16	realz	also how to get the stream out of the region file
2015-10-26 21:14:24	realz	for each chunk?
2015-10-26 21:14:28	realz	ill figure that out
2015-10-26 21:15:17	realz	its spelled out in Gjum's code
2015-10-26 21:16:51	rom1504	idk, I haven't used any of that, never done any minecraft thing in c++ ;)
2015-10-26 21:16:56	rom1504	I'm using https://github.com/maxogden/minecraft-region/blob/master/index.js
2015-10-26 21:17:35	rom1504	look at http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Region_file_format
2015-10-26 21:21:18	Gjum	it's really quite simple, just gotta get the indices right
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2015-10-26 21:30:03	realz	rom1504: thanks
2015-10-26 21:30:15	realz	Gjum: yea im assuming that reference is what you have in the load function right here
2015-10-26 21:30:31	realz	rom1504: i saw you are an overviewer contributor
2015-10-26 21:30:35	realz	are you the author?
2015-10-26 21:31:55	realz	eh maybe i misread
2015-10-26 21:32:36	realz	yea nvm :D
2015-10-26 21:33:21	Not-f7bb	[flying-squid] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±7] http://git.io/vWiB9
2015-10-26 21:33:22	Not-f7bb	[flying-squid] rom1504 81d6cca - add metadata when placing a block, progress on #9
2015-10-26 21:36:26	rom1504	no I didn't write that minecraft-region thing, that's part of voxeljs, I'm using it in https://github.com/PrismarineJS/prismarine-provider-anvil to load the world in flying-squid though
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2015-10-26 21:40:37	Not-f7bb	[flying-squid] rom1504 07b8eaf - update setBlock doc
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2015-10-26 22:34:26	Not-f7bb	[flying-squid] rom1504 20ff77b - listen on server 'connection' to listen to non-PLAY errors, try to fix #85
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2015-10-27 02:10:55	realz	Gjum:         unsigned char bufferCompressed[int(lengthCompressed*1.1)];
2015-10-27 02:11:05	realz	any clue why the *1.1 is there?
2015-10-27 02:12:04	realz	also, for everyone in the channel's viewing pleasure, friend of mine found this GEM of a voxel rendering demo:
2015-10-27 02:12:05	realz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2bEpvyy28g
2015-10-27 02:31:13	oldmanmike	So, I'm working on a server and I'm currently writing the authentication step of the login phase. I have a question, what should my server send as a "verify token" in its Encryption Request packet? The Vanilla server seems to be using a 4 byte field for its verify token.
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2015-10-27 02:50:07	rom1504	4 random bytes
2015-10-27 02:51:10	oldmanmike	Got it, thanks!
2015-10-27 02:52:33	rom1504	what are you writing the server in ?
2015-10-27 02:53:10	oldmanmike	Haskell
2015-10-27 02:53:36	rom1504	fun :)
2015-10-27 02:53:46	oldmanmike	Hopefully :)
2015-10-27 02:55:28	rom1504	any repo yet ?
2015-10-27 02:57:06	oldmanmike	Yeah, I've got WIP repo for it on Github right now.
2015-10-27 02:58:33	oldmanmike	Given one can't even log onto the server yet, I'm not in a hurry to advertise its existance yet. I don't want to end up crying wolf for a project I can't carry through with.
2015-10-27 02:59:29	oldmanmike	But what exists right now is located at https://github.com/oldmanmike/opensandbox
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2015-10-27 03:03:10	rom1504	okay, did you see https://github.com/nandor/hcraft btw ? It's the only other haskell+minecraft project there is afaik
2015-10-27 03:04:03	rom1504	it's a client
2015-10-27 03:04:13	rom1504	well I'm not even sure it does any network
2015-10-27 03:05:01	oldmanmike	Yeah, I saw that one back in the day.
2015-10-27 03:05:18	oldmanmike	I'm holding off on the clientside for now
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2015-10-27 03:22:50	DemiPixel	I was wondering why there is "Effect"?
2015-10-27 03:23:09	DemiPixel	It looks like it has both sounds and particles but there's also packets "Particle" and "Sound Effect"
2015-10-27 03:25:18	DemiPixel	So when is "Effect" used for audio/particles? (e.g. wiki.vg/Protocol says random.anvil_land is used in Effect even though the same string can be used in Sound Effect?)
2015-10-27 03:38:30	rom1504	DemiPixel: what you could do is put a mineflayer bot on a vanilla server and have it display these packets in the console, and do stuff around the bot to see which packets he got
2015-10-27 03:58:52	DemiPixel	rom1504: I suppose, it's just weird that it can send the same sound through two different packets...
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2015-10-27 15:21:27	mml	is there some trick to getting debug logging enabled on the client on osx?
2015-10-27 15:23:34	mml	ah, there it is, "profile" settings
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2015-10-27 19:30:23	Fenhl	so someone changed the packed IDs for Spectate and Plugin Message on [[Pre-release protocol]], but didn't update them in the TOC. Can someone verify if the changes are correct?
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2015-10-27 19:49:05	Not-f7bb	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vWycU
2015-10-27 19:49:07	Not-f7bb	[minecraft-data] rom1504 7a52708 - update 1.9 blocks (based on wiki revision before the 28/10/2015)
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2015-10-27 21:57:27	M4GNV5	http://mcdevs.org/ is down
2015-10-27 21:59:55	rom1504	M4GNV5: what was there ?
2015-10-27 22:00:12	M4GNV5	channel rules
2015-10-27 22:01:17	M4GNV5	https://web.archive.org/web/20140517214154/http://mcdevs.org/
2015-10-27 22:06:16	dx	the topic has a new link
2015-10-27 22:09:04	M4GNV5	i see, just ChanServ has the old one
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2015-10-27 23:28:59	barneygale_	Can data tags in slot data ever have a non-empty top-level name?
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2015-10-28 00:14:35	barneygale_	packets renumbered in 15w43, pretty sure
2015-10-28 00:14:45	barneygale_	anyone have an updated list?
2015-10-28 00:15:04	nickelpro	barneygale_: Regarding your slot question, you mean for the complex nbt?
2015-10-28 00:16:01	nickelpro	In which case I'm pretty sure they can and I'm also fairly sure nothing uses that name
2015-10-28 00:16:05	barneygale_	I think so. i'm not sure what you mean by /complex/ nbt
2015-10-28 00:17:01	nickelpro	s/complex/compound/g
2015-10-28 00:17:16	nickelpro	I forgot the type name
2015-10-28 00:17:34	barneygale_	ahh
2015-10-28 00:17:41	barneygale_	yes
2015-10-28 00:18:23	barneygale_	thanks for the info :)
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2015-10-28 01:27:57	Not-f7bb	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vW9LM
2015-10-28 01:27:58	Not-f7bb	[minecraft-data] rom1504 8ea2efc - update 1.9 recipes (based on wiki revision before the 28/10/2015)
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2015-10-28 11:51:56	ScruffyRules	Hmm, there's no way to display saturation in vanilla is there?
2015-10-28 11:54:16	angal	in vanilla client you an only see, if saturation == 0
2015-10-28 11:55:10	ScruffyRules	And technically >0
2015-10-28 11:55:46	ScruffyRules	Scoreboard wise there isn't a way to show it?
2015-10-28 11:57:52	angal	It's requires some server side actions... You can send a scoreboard packet to player and update player entry on each his saturation change...
2015-10-28 11:58:21	ScruffyRules	Mkay, thanks.
2015-10-28 11:59:26	barneygale	So I wrote an nbt parser last night. The slot data docs say " the byte is 0, there is no NBT data, and no further data follows. Otherwise the byte is the start of the nbt blob". I think this is probably misleading - the 0 byte is probably TAG_End
2015-10-28 12:01:20	barneygale	NBT docs are a bit weird in that they insist tags always begin with a tag id (byte) and a tag name (string), but this is only true in two cases: the top-level tag, and tags inside a TAG_Compound
2015-10-28 12:03:11	barneygale	My parser is here if anyone's interested: https://github.com/barneygale/quarry/blob/snappy/quarry/utils/buffer.py#L172-L219 - it's lossy as it doesn't preserve the types of numerical tags, but it's also about 10% of the size of other python nbt parsers i've seen
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2015-10-28 16:00:21	Fenhl	barneygale: I don't think a single TAG_End is valid NBT?
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2015-10-28 16:32:55	barneygale	Fenhl, I'm not sure either, but the slot data format makes little sense otherwise. Either that byte is NBT data or not
2015-10-28 16:33:24	barneygale	would be interesting to see how it works in deobfuscated source
2015-10-28 16:49:55	rom1504	barneygale: hmm, in the end did you try to see if gamemode3 worked with your proxy ?
2015-10-28 16:50:23	+Thinkofdeath	barneygale: its just: if(nbt == null) writeByte(0); else NBTThing.write(nbt, this);
2015-10-28 16:51:31	+Thinkofdeath	http://hastebin.com/vegacuzefa.java
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2015-10-28 17:24:10	barneygale	Thinkofdeath, ahh OK
2015-10-28 17:24:37	barneygale	that seems dodgy from a design standpoint but whatever
2015-10-28 17:41:02	Fenhl	it's basically an Optional NBT tag
2015-10-28 18:10:32	barneygale	I know
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2015-10-29 00:42:11	Timelaw	I'm implementing a MC 1.8.8 server and I am working on the encryption. After the encryption is turned on, how do I encrypt the packets? Do I do it over the whole packet after compression?
2015-10-29 00:42:45	Timelaw	Might seem like a stupid question I guess. I assume yes, but I haven't done anything like this before so :)
2015-10-29 00:44:28	+Amaranth	After compression, if you can compress encrypted data you have a problem :)
2015-10-29 00:46:16	Timelaw	Amaranth: I was just thinking about if I encrypt the whole packet or fields of packets. So when I get the encryption response, which the client is supossed to encrypt. Do I decrypt the whole packet to get the shared secret, its length and the token with length?
2015-10-29 00:47:35	Timelaw	Also, can I have anything for the token? I am just supposed to use it to verify the encryption/decryption works, right?
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2015-10-29 01:11:54	+ammar2	Timelaw: the client sends you back two encrypted byte arrays as the fields, you decrypt both the shared secret and the token
2015-10-29 01:12:01	+ammar2	veryify that the token is the same as the one you sent
2015-10-29 01:12:13	+ammar2	and then iniate the stream cipher using the shared secret
2015-10-29 01:12:22	+ammar2	wow I can't spell tonight
2015-10-29 01:13:08	+ammar2	so yeah, the structure of the packet itself is unencrypted, just the byte arrays representing the shared secret and token are encrypted using the provided public key
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2015-10-29 01:43:38	Timelaw	ammar2: Okey :)
2015-10-29 01:44:04	Timelaw	ammar2: So I would parse those packets like any other packet but in the handling decrypt them and verify the token then
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2015-10-29 01:50:30	Timelaw	ammar2: Can you elaborate on initiating the stream cipher?
2015-10-29 02:00:50	Timelaw	ammar2: Ah okey, so the Shared Secret is going to be the inital state in the stream cipher, right?
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2015-10-29 10:48:44	DiaLight	Привет!
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2015-10-29 11:39:53	barneygale	Timelaw, fyi, one encryption is turned on the /entire stream/ is encrypted, including packet lengths, ids and payloads
2015-10-29 11:39:58	barneygale	s/one/once/
2015-10-29 11:55:27	Timelaw	barneygale: Yea so once the response from the client arrives and i verify it, all packets are ciphered, right? :)
2015-10-29 12:03:50	angal	Yup.
2015-10-29 12:13:17	barneygale	Timelaw, that's right
2015-10-29 12:36:17	Timelaw	barneygale, angal: Thanks! :)
2015-10-29 13:07:43	Not-f7bb	[minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vWAyH
2015-10-29 13:07:45	Not-f7bb	[minecraft-data] rom1504 948577c - added minecraft-jar-extractor in python in the extractors
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2015-10-29 18:00:40	TkTech	Database migration some time this week, expect 5 - 30 minutes of downtime at some point
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