2015-07-31 15:36:18	johni0702	Thinkofdeath, that's a boss bar which is split into 12/13 (not sure) parts by 11/12 vertical lines
2015-07-31 15:36:34	+XorBoole	let's talk about how we should form a vigilante mob and murder whomever designed wiki markup
2015-07-31 15:36:46	barneygale	i blame jimmy wales
2015-07-31 15:37:24	+Thinkofdeath	johni0702: ah, ty
2015-07-31 15:37:25	+ammar2	don't you enjoy seeing his face on top of wikipedia
2015-07-31 15:37:27	+ammar2	every single day
2015-07-31 15:37:28	 *	Thinkofdeath updates enums
2015-07-31 15:37:35	rom1504	the pb is actually that it's not one person that designed it, but that whatever people type in the source of wikipedia the parser must handle it (and mediawiki's parser is ugly shit with regex in php)
2015-07-31 15:37:37	+XorBoole	isn't that they guy that keeps asking for my money whenever I copy paste wikipedia for a school paper?
2015-07-31 15:37:57	+XorBoole	he ain't getting my money
2015-07-31 15:37:58	johni0702	Thinkofdeath, 12 parts, split by 11 lines. (this is NOTCHED_10: https://i.johni0702.de/nn.png )
2015-07-31 15:38:00	+XorBoole	because I have no money
2015-07-31 15:38:35	+ammar2	XorBoole: sell your body for jimmy
2015-07-31 15:38:52	+XorBoole	who wants a fat jon snow lookalike's body
2015-07-31 15:39:03	+ammar2	that's my fetish
2015-07-31 15:39:18	+XorBoole	not the wierdest I've encountered
2015-07-31 15:39:37	+ammar2	barneygale: the problem I had with the wiki formatting is that to extend it we'll likely need to change things on the wiki and TkTech seems really dead
2015-07-31 15:40:11	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±1] http://git.io/vOIrY
2015-07-31 15:40:13	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] KodekPL 164a545 - Add boss bar enums
2015-07-31 15:40:16	+XorBoole	ammar2 http://img.pandawhale.com/108471-thats-my-fetish-gif-Avatar-Top-PUrD.gif
2015-07-31 15:40:37	+ammar2	XorBoole: mmm dats the gif I was looking for
2015-07-31 15:40:45	barneygale	ammar2, I thought this was something entirely separate from wiki.vg, which would replace the Protocol/Pre-release Protocol pages
2015-07-31 15:40:46	+Thinkofdeath	er, wrong git config .-.
2015-07-31 15:41:04	+XorBoole	the stich one's pretty good, but the scooby-doo one's the classic
2015-07-31 15:41:11	+XorBoole	also 10/10 best avatar episode
2015-07-31 15:41:34	+ammar2	barneygale: it could well be but we may as well keep the wiki tied in since most people are used to it
2015-07-31 15:41:34	+XorBoole	HOOONOOOR!
2015-07-31 15:42:00	+ammar2	wether that means putting up an external link for the protocol or changing the actual page
2015-07-31 15:42:04	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±1] http://git.io/vOIrQ
2015-07-31 15:42:06	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath 1c08d76 - Add boss bar enums
2015-07-31 15:47:02	rom1504	I think pulling from a template from the wiki protocol page might work
2015-07-31 15:47:18	rom1504	not sure how that protocol file should be versionned though
2015-07-31 15:47:38	rom1504	currently wiki.vg/Protocol is in free modification by anyone
2015-07-31 15:48:08	rom1504	idk if putting a .json file in a wiki page makes any sense
2015-07-31 15:48:27	rom1504	because if it was in a github repo, it would not be in free modification access by anyone
2015-07-31 15:48:44	rom1504	it would need to go through PR, which is not instant
2015-07-31 15:57:33	rom1504	well I guess putting the json in the wiki page might work, and it could easily be extracted
2015-07-31 15:59:35	+ammar2	putting it in an official mcdevs repo is fine
2015-07-31 15:59:48	+ammar2	wonder who has admin abilities over it https://github.com/mcdevs
2015-07-31 16:00:04	+SinZ	probably tk
2015-07-31 16:00:13	+ammar2	yeah I meant someone who isn't dead :^)
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2015-07-31 16:06:38	+ammar2	barneygale should be able to see the admins seeing as he's a member
2015-07-31 16:07:31	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+8/-1/±119] http://git.io/vOISj
2015-07-31 16:07:33	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath 37b10df - 15w31b
2015-07-31 16:08:28	+Thinkofdeath	(sorry about force pushing a lot, I prefer to keep the history neat on this repo)
2015-07-31 16:12:11	konwboy	This new Boss Bar packet is really cool :) http://i.imgur.com/piHpUhn.png
2015-07-31 16:12:24	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±22] http://git.io/vOIHB
2015-07-31 16:12:25	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath 488447e - 15w31c
2015-07-31 16:13:07	+Dinnerbone	I'm glad you approve!
2015-07-31 16:13:24	konwboy	Yeah! Thank you!
2015-07-31 16:13:36	+Dinnerbone	Protocol itself didn't change in 31c btw, but we added an entity which warrants incompatiblity
2015-07-31 16:13:45	+Thinkofdeath	neat, is there a limit on the number of bars?
2015-07-31 16:13:50	+Thinkofdeath	ah thanks
2015-07-31 16:14:00	konwboy	max is 4
2015-07-31 16:14:15	+Dinnerbone	Max is 1/3rd of your screen
2015-07-31 16:14:46	+Thinkofdeath	so it can be different per a player? that might be a bit of a pain
2015-07-31 16:14:56	+Dinnerbone	I'm hoping you don't use more than... say.... 1
2015-07-31 16:14:57	+Dinnerbone	:D
2015-07-31 16:15:02	+Dinnerbone	2 in rare cases.
2015-07-31 16:15:05	 *	Thinkofdeath adds 200
2015-07-31 16:15:15	HansiHE	really using uuids for everything
2015-07-31 16:16:21	+Thinkofdeath	I really need to get a way to play around with snapshot protocol stuff
2015-07-31 16:16:43	cindy_k	o.O I thought you had one?
2015-07-31 16:16:50	+Thinkofdeath	1.7 I had netherrack, 1.8 had spigot but this time we aren't planing a 1.9 protocol patch
2015-07-31 16:17:00	+Thinkofdeath	and steven is only a client which is no fun
2015-07-31 16:18:16	+XorBoole	Dinnerbone but fighting 20 withers at once is trendy, right?
2015-07-31 16:18:35	+Dinnerbone	Extremely!
2015-07-31 16:18:53	+XorBoole	the boss bars piling up is part of the challenge, obviouslly
2015-07-31 16:19:00	ScruffyRules	Thinkofdeath, Make Cobblestone, a new Netherrack
2015-07-31 16:19:09	+XorBoole	also, now that I have you. what did you break with resource packs?
2015-07-31 16:19:22	+XorBoole	namely, ohw does versioning work and how did `display` in models change?
2015-07-31 16:19:34	+XorBoole	I've been decompiling like crazy and haven't been able to figure it out
2015-07-31 16:20:02	+Dinnerbone	Versioning: Up the version number in pack.mcmeta. You already have it, or it wouldn't have ever loaded.
2015-07-31 16:20:18	+XorBoole	that's what I thought, are we on '2' now?
2015-07-31 16:20:21	+Dinnerbone	Yes.
2015-07-31 16:20:39	+XorBoole	is there a way to convert from old display offsets to the new ones?
2015-07-31 16:21:19	+XorBoole	I know gui doesn't automatically render isometric now, but the others have been nigh impossible to figure out
2015-07-31 16:22:13	+Amaranth	btw http://pandoc.org/README.html#pandocs-markdown
2015-07-31 16:22:15	yawkat	why does minecraft <1.8 send 0-length packets sometimes?
2015-07-31 16:22:26	+XorBoole	redstonehelper note above ^, resource pack versioning is not in your changelogs
2015-07-31 16:23:48	konwboy	As you are there, Dinnerbone
2015-07-31 16:23:51	konwboy	Is there any chance that Client Settings packet will send Chat Width setting?
2015-07-31 16:24:08	+Dinnerbone	What for?
2015-07-31 16:24:10	+Amaranth	What good would that be?
2015-07-31 16:24:24	+Amaranth	Text isn't monospace, is it?
2015-07-31 16:24:32	+Dinnerbone	You'd also need to know their font and scale settings etc to figure out the width of text
2015-07-31 16:24:40	konwboy	For centering messages
2015-07-31 16:24:50	+Amaranth	Centering messages is not a thing you can actually do
2015-07-31 16:24:55	+Dinnerbone	Well you couldn't without having their font, and also knowing their scaling settings
2015-07-31 16:24:56	yawkat	my cowsay port just assumes default
2015-07-31 16:25:20	konwboy	oh, okay
2015-07-31 16:25:28	ScruffyRules	Always assume default
2015-07-31 16:25:41	yawkat	nobody touches settings anyway!
2015-07-31 16:26:03	Wuppie	Would be nice if there is like a '§' code for centering text
2015-07-31 16:26:20	+XorBoole	section codes are deprecated
2015-07-31 16:26:21	+ammar2	§ is dead
2015-07-31 16:26:25	+ammar2	long live §
2015-07-31 16:26:30	+Amaranth	Then the client would have to figure out what center is :P
2015-07-31 16:26:30	Wuppie	§ is dead? 0.o
2015-07-31 16:26:38	+XorBoole	there's the json format
2015-07-31 16:26:38	ScruffyRules	Or {center:"asdasd"}
2015-07-31 16:26:44	 *	Thinkofdeath goes through correcting people assuming varints are bytes on the pre-release protocol page
2015-07-31 16:26:45	Wuppie	well, if the client has to figure it out, that isn't to bad right?
2015-07-31 16:26:51	HansiHE	it would be nice having the data to calculate the width of chat uis serverside
2015-07-31 16:27:05	+ammar2	Thinkofdeath: pftt, same thing
2015-07-31 16:27:16	+XorBoole	#varintmasterrace
2015-07-31 16:27:24	Wuppie	i'm gonna starting working on porting my 1.8 server to 1.9 soon lol
2015-07-31 16:27:34	+XorBoole	ScruffyRules also it'd probaly be "format":"center"
2015-07-31 16:27:37	+Amaranth	Client having to figure it out is better than trying to send enough information for the server but it's a complicated thing which means they probably will never get around to it :P
2015-07-31 16:27:38	+XorBoole	unless format is a list
2015-07-31 16:27:39	yawkat	Thinkofdeath: are packet numbers >127 now or what?
2015-07-31 16:27:40	+XorBoole	I don't remember
2015-07-31 16:27:51	ScruffyRules	Yeah, I don't actually know how that stuff is done. xD
2015-07-31 16:28:03	+XorBoole	yawkat they're varints, obviouslly
2015-07-31 16:28:05	+Thinkofdeath	yawkat: nah, just readEnum is a varint not a byte
2015-07-31 16:28:06	+ammar2	Amaranth: especially when there's a way to show big centered messages already
2015-07-31 16:28:16	+Amaranth	ammar2: Several ways!
2015-07-31 16:28:26	+XorBoole	about three I think
2015-07-31 16:28:36	+XorBoole	hotbar, item bar, titles
2015-07-31 16:28:39	+XorBoole	oh, and bossbars
2015-07-31 16:29:01	+ammar2	all hail our new bossbar overlords
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2015-07-31 16:30:55	+XorBoole	I like the 1.8 bug where giving a boss more hp than default will cause the bar to wrap
2015-07-31 16:31:02	+XorBoole	even it the max health i also increased
2015-07-31 16:32:31	+XorBoole	Dinnerbone did you see my question about "display" offsets in models?
2015-07-31 16:34:44	barneygale	ammar2, do you need the member list? I assume it's fine for me to tell you
2015-07-31 16:35:06	+ammar2	barneygale: can you see the administrators group? I think normal members can
2015-07-31 16:35:26	+ammar2	I assume its just TkTech and sadismusi in which case we're a bit screwed
2015-07-31 16:35:27	barneygale	I can see 7 people in the group. Everyone is a "member", except Tk who is an "Owner"
2015-07-31 16:35:51	+ammar2	yup, I'll message Tk on github then 
2015-07-31 16:35:58	+ammar2	or email him rather
2015-07-31 16:36:40	barneygale	/whois says he was only marked as away earlier today
2015-07-31 16:36:55	+ammar2	oh that's new
2015-07-31 16:36:58	+XorBoole	I stabed him the other day over some channel issue, he didn't respond
2015-07-31 16:37:00	rom1504	yeah "message on github" is not a thing
2015-07-31 16:37:01	+ammar2	his idle time was 400 hours before
2015-07-31 16:37:08	+ammar2	rom1504: make issues on all his repos
2015-07-31 16:37:12	rom1504	:d
2015-07-31 16:37:15	rom1504	that works
2015-07-31 16:37:19	+XorBoole	ammar2 that's plain evil
2015-07-31 16:37:24	 *	XorBoole writes a tool for it
2015-07-31 16:38:24	rom1504	I like these mentions functionnalities in github
2015-07-31 16:39:07	rom1504	(issue mention, people mention)
2015-07-31 16:39:15	HansiHE	add an issue on all his repositories :P
2015-07-31 16:39:28	+XorBoole	or you could make a gist and @mention him in it
2015-07-31 16:39:51	HansiHE	oh, didn't read before saying
2015-07-31 16:40:06	+Thinkofdeath	Ok, fixed up the varint issues on the page and added some missing changes
2015-07-31 16:40:45	rom1504	XorBoole: does that work ? (send him and email and all)
2015-07-31 16:40:54	rom1504	*github send
2015-07-31 16:41:06	+XorBoole	rom1504 maybe
2015-07-31 16:42:07	rom1504	I want http://webmention.org everywhere
2015-07-31 16:44:35	rom1504	oh yeah use item has a varint
2015-07-31 17:16:24	redstonehelper	XorBoole: I think there's a small note somewhere, but I'll add it. I thinkg g**m tweeted something about it too
2015-07-31 17:16:37	+XorBoole	redstonehelper congrats, you pinged him
2015-07-31 17:16:42	+XorBoole	so much as thinking about him pings him
2015-07-31 17:16:51	redstonehelper	not thinking about him pings him too
2015-07-31 17:16:59	+XorBoole	hey ****, fix resource packs
2015-07-31 17:17:02	+XorBoole	there, pinged him
2015-07-31 17:17:05	redstonehelper	in fact users joining and disconnecting pings him
2015-07-31 17:17:10	rom1504	he's constantly pinged
2015-07-31 17:17:55	+XorBoole	in fact, `.*` is set to highlight for him
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2015-07-31 18:02:48	Fenhl	Thinkofdeath: can't we just document enums as actual enums instead?
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2015-07-31 19:52:25	+Thinkofdeath	Fenhl: yeah that might be better
2015-07-31 19:52:35	+Thinkofdeath	since they'll change based on order too
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2015-07-31 20:42:57	Aragas	is there any documentation on forge server login sequence? can't really figure it out
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2015-07-31 21:37:44	Not-390	[1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±6] http://git.io/vOtNI
2015-07-31 21:37:46	Not-390	[1.8-Models] drXor b6b3bcb - Add wood/stone axes and hoes.
2015-07-31 21:46:04	rom1504	when is 1.9 supposed to be released ?
2015-07-31 21:50:17	+ammar2	right now
2015-07-31 21:51:58	rom1504	I meant do we have any idea when the release date is ? (in 6 months or soon)
2015-07-31 21:52:53	+XorBoole	six months is my guess
2015-07-31 21:52:59	+XorBoole	get your own
2015-07-31 21:54:13	rom1504	:d
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2015-07-31 22:44:45	Not-390	[1.8-Models] drXor a078a8a - HAIYA!
2015-07-31 22:48:46	Fenhl	okay so apparently Minecraft uses "minecraft:swiftness" in the NBT for speed potions, but the effect is called "minecraft:speed"?
2015-07-31 22:49:05	angal	:)
2015-07-31 22:49:42	Fenhl	…why
2015-07-31 22:49:55	Not-390	[1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vOqE6
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2015-07-31 22:50:47	+XorBoole	Fenhl I really wish I could say that's notchcode
2015-07-31 22:59:11	rom1504	anybody knows whether this is still up to date http://wiki.vg/Server_List_Ping#Response ?
2015-07-31 22:59:21	rom1504	doesn't seem to work right
2015-07-31 23:02:57	rom1504	that's what power the hovering message in the server list
2015-07-31 23:03:15	rom1504	and all I managed to display is t hinkofdeath 
2015-07-31 23:03:54	+Thinkofdeath	it requires a valid uuid
2015-07-31 23:04:48	rom1504	yeah but it won't display the description field for example
2015-07-31 23:05:59	rom1504	oh actually it does hmm
2015-07-31 23:05:59	+Thinkofdeath	you asked about the hover though? that has nothing to do with the description, the description appears below the server name on the list
2015-07-31 23:06:07	rom1504	yeah indeed
2015-07-31 23:07:53	rom1504	on an other server it shows "n players on <servername>"
2015-07-31 23:07:58	rom1504	in the hover
2015-07-31 23:08:42	+Thinkofdeath	thats the player list, just use text instead of the player name but keep a valid uuid
2015-07-31 23:10:13	rom1504	oh yeah indeed
2015-07-31 23:12:35	rom1504	thanks
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2015-07-31 23:25:17	barneygale_	HansiHE, were you working on a wrapper at one point?
2015-07-31 23:25:32	HansiHE	barneygale, yeah
2015-07-31 23:25:34	HansiHE	somewhat
2015-07-31 23:25:43	barneygale_	how far did you get?
2015-07-31 23:25:57	HansiHE	not very
2015-07-31 23:26:29	barneygale_	i'm not sure which cli wrappers people use nowadays
2015-07-31 23:26:31	HansiHE	if you are doing something, i don't think its worth the hastle of digging it up
2015-07-31 23:26:42	barneygale_	yeah
2015-07-31 23:27:30	barneygale_	i've been considering a more-or-less straight rewrite of mark2, but with code and an architecture that isn't terrible
2015-07-31 23:27:50	barneygale_	well, bits of mark2 are pretty ok
2015-07-31 23:27:58	HansiHE	oh, i remember what i was doing now
2015-07-31 23:28:14	HansiHE	a wrapper of sorts that runs in the same vm as the server
2015-07-31 23:28:21	barneygale_	hah amazing
2015-07-31 23:28:33	HansiHE	well, its not really that special
2015-07-31 23:28:35	barneygale_	i tried something like that for a while, using a java agent or something?
2015-07-31 23:29:13	HansiHE	well, i just called the main method on the server
2015-07-31 23:30:17	HansiHE	oh, i didn't know about java agents
2015-07-31 23:31:18	HansiHE	i would be interrested in seeing what wrappers are in use now
2015-07-31 23:31:27	HansiHE	is mark2 still used?
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2015-07-31 23:47:47	barneygale_	I think so
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2015-08-01 00:57:05	Aragas	at least i tried
2015-08-01 01:15:08	Aragas	for some reason in PluginMessage Packet, the length of the given Data (which is read as VarInt) is incorrect. The summary packet length is 51 bytes, the data length is 70. Any idea what it could be? The channel is "REGISTER"
2015-08-01 01:18:21	+SpaceManiac	Aragas: where is the packet originating from? and do you have a byte dump?
2015-08-01 01:19:30	Aragas	sure, can dump it. It's from a Forge server. All this FML register stuff
2015-08-01 01:20:12	Aragas	But had similar problem before, not sure if it was forge too
2015-08-01 01:28:17	+Thinkofdeath	Aragas: data length?
2015-08-01 01:29:02	+Thinkofdeath	the length of the data part of the plugin message packet is the remainder of the packet, it doesn't have a length prefix
2015-08-01 01:31:08	Aragas	SpaceManiac: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58476180/DumpPacket63.bin
2015-08-01 01:31:22	Aragas	Okay, im a bit confused
2015-08-01 01:32:49	Aragas	The Data don't have the length value? it has to be calculated?
2015-08-01 01:33:04	+Thinkofdeath	https://github.com/thinkofdeath/mc-autodocs/blob/master/protocol/play/PacketClientPluginMessage.java#L26-L34
2015-08-01 01:36:21	Aragas	So it just reads the remaining bytes
2015-08-01 01:38:10	+Thinkofdeath	yep
2015-08-01 01:38:53	HansiHE	when reading the remainder, i get {:plugin_message, "MC|Brand", "\avanilla"}
2015-08-01 01:39:10	HansiHE	\a is the bell ascii character, code 7
2015-08-01 01:39:18	HansiHE	which happens to be the length of vanilla
2015-08-01 01:39:43	+Thinkofdeath	the string inside the data has its own length prefix
2015-08-01 01:39:50	+Thinkofdeath	but thats specific to that channel
2015-08-01 01:40:08	HansiHE	oh, that's channel spesific?
2015-08-01 01:40:10	HansiHE	okey then
2015-08-01 01:40:30	+Thinkofdeath	they used the same writeString method used in the rest of the protocol
2015-08-01 01:40:38	+Thinkofdeath	so it gets a length prefix just because of that
2015-08-01 01:40:47	HansiHE	makes sense
2015-08-01 01:41:33	Aragas	Thanks Thinkofdeath. Don't even had readableBytes implemented. What a shame
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2015-08-01 02:10:41	TkTech	Hey guys!
2015-08-01 02:11:04	TkTech	Just a heads up that if there's ever an issue with mcdevs, github, wiki.vg, or any other service email (tk@tkte.ch) is the absolute best way to get me quickly
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2015-08-01 05:27:16	Aikar	can a mojangsta confirm how the clients skin cache works? from what im seeing, it looks like if uuid = same as ones loaded, uses cache? but cant figure out how its handling 2 player heads of same player but diff skins. when a player sees their OLD head, the new head now shows old skin to them until they relog. I'm hard coding the timestamp to be the same for all heads due to stacking bug, but why wouldnt client cache on texture url?
2015-08-01 05:28:03	Aikar	(stacking bug = heads created over different time periods have a different timestamp value, causing them to not stack)
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2015-08-01 15:18:36	Voltasalt	I'm trying to implement a MobDisguise-like thing on my custom server impl, but I can't get the disguise-entity to spawn correctly
2015-08-01 15:19:06	Voltasalt	It's spawning the player entity correctly, but when I try to disguise, the entity just disappears to other players and doesn't spawn the disguised-one
2015-08-01 15:19:33	Voltasalt	I'm sending a DestroyEntity packet, then a SpawnMob packet with the same eid
2015-08-01 15:19:47	Voltasalt	how could I fix this?
2015-08-01 15:22:17	+Amaranth	Why would you use the same entity id?
2015-08-01 15:22:29	Voltasalt	would it cause a problem?
2015-08-01 15:22:52	+Amaranth	I suspect you might have to wait a tick client side between the two packets
2015-08-01 15:22:59	Voltasalt	doing it to make everything simpler, plus, reading the code of iDisguise for spigot seems to do the same thing
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2015-08-01 16:28:39	barneygale	rom1504, keep me posted on the packet structs thing. are you leaning toward any particular format at the moment?
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2015-08-01 16:59:55	barneygale	I wonder if this works with minecraft's rcon: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_RCON_Protocol#Multiple-packet_Responses
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2015-08-01 17:19:00	morfin	lol
2015-08-01 17:19:18	morfin	something very familiar to me
2015-08-01 17:29:11	rom1504	barneygale: well, I think nmp json could do the task ( https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/protocol/protocol.json ), I'm open about the schema though, there are probably stuff than can be improved, but I think using a language independant format like json is good to be used by several programming languages
2015-08-01 17:30:26	rom1504	also if we're going to generate something like wiki.vg/Protocol from it, we'll need to add field notes to it I guess
2015-08-01 17:31:12	barneygale	rom1504, what is nms licensed under?
2015-08-01 17:32:06	rom1504	BSD
2015-08-01 17:32:27	barneygale	OK, thanms
2015-08-01 17:32:30	barneygale	thanks* rather.
2015-08-01 17:32:52	barneygale	i'm going to have a crack at using it for quarry
2015-08-01 17:33:55	rom1504	ok :)
2015-08-01 17:37:47	rom1504	the schema is documented here https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/protocol/protocol_schema.json (and you can see a visual representation of that schema there http://prismarinejs.github.io/minecraft-data/ (just the protocol part)) the main thing that might need improvements is the 'typeArgs' thing
2015-08-01 17:39:25	barneygale	hm yeah, seems like you have a type called "count" that has its own inner type, like a varint?
2015-08-01 17:41:46	rom1504	yes count is the length of some other field, so there's a countFor 'innerfield' to store what fields it count for, and the count field itself has a type like varint (but it can be other things than varint I think)
2015-08-01 17:42:15	rom1504	for example https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/protocol/protocol.json#L88
2015-08-01 17:42:32	rom1504	publicKeyLength is the 'count' of publicKey
2015-08-01 17:48:30	rom1504	that file should probably be in some other repo now though, we were thinking of putting it in https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data but other places are also possible
2015-08-01 17:58:54	barneygale	rom1504, couldn't you define the length field normally (type is varint), then reference it from the aray definition (e.g. lengthFromField=...)
2015-08-01 18:02:40	johni0702	barneygale, only downside I could see is that as it is now you can just discard the 'count' fields after reading (e.g. have them being local variables). if they weren't marked separately then you wouldn't know which files actually convey meaningful data and which are just necessary for en-/decoding
2015-08-01 18:03:01	barneygale	ah, true
2015-08-01 18:03:10	rom1504	barneygale: no, because when writing the count field, you need to know its value == the length of the counted field
2015-08-01 18:03:45	rom1504	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/src/datatypes/structures.js#L112
2015-08-01 18:03:46	barneygale	right right
2015-08-01 18:05:11	barneygale	and "this." gives you fields at the same level, rather than top level?
2015-08-01 18:06:46	rom1504	in javascript you mean ?
2015-08-01 18:07:21	barneygale	in the json
2015-08-01 18:08:16	rom1504	oh yeah
2015-08-01 18:26:23	johni0702	I just finished with this thing: https://github.com/Johni0702/ProtocolGen  it slurps the json and produces java files which are capable of reading and writing all packets. 
2015-08-01 18:30:02	rom1504	oh wow cool
2015-08-01 18:31:36	rom1504	how do you test it ?
2015-08-01 18:32:37	johni0702	I haven't till now, well not more than checking whether it produces valid java code and picking out a few packets to compare to manual implementation
2015-08-01 18:33:47	rom1504	I'm getting http://pastebin.com/VvxReYNq
2015-08-01 18:33:54	rom1504	ok
2015-08-01 18:34:28	johni0702	hm.. seems like that repo's https isn't as valid as it should be
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2015-08-01 19:19:08	johni0702	rom1504, I've mirrored those two artifacts on my repo, you can pull and retry now
2015-08-01 19:22:25	rom1504	yeah that made it works
2015-08-01 19:23:51	rom1504	nice
2015-08-01 19:39:47	HansiHE	barneygale, rom1504, johni0702, in my decoder/encoder i did it the way barney suggested, i just assert the length field == length of the array
2015-08-01 19:40:21	HansiHE	i think the extra work of setting the field to the length is outweighed by simplicity in the json
2015-08-01 19:40:46	HansiHE	also, not discarding the field is not a big issue, just give it a meaningful name
2015-08-01 19:41:11	rom1504	how does that fix the writing issue ?
2015-08-01 19:41:15	+ammar2	rom1504: do you wanna start adding small field descriptions? I can get a repo on the mcdevs account up tomorrow
2015-08-01 19:41:23	HansiHE	writing issue?
2015-08-01 19:41:49	HansiHE	oh, right
2015-08-01 19:42:04	rom1504	if count fields are just varint fields, then you'll have to count the size of the array every time you want to write it
2015-08-01 19:42:11	HansiHE	well, in the code for writing the array i crash and burn if the length field != array length
2015-08-01 19:43:01	rom1504	no that's not the problem
2015-08-01 19:43:15	rom1504	in npm we don't need to give the length to the write function for array
2015-08-01 19:43:39	rom1504	because it can figure it out thanks to these "count" fields
2015-08-01 19:44:34	rom1504	https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/fb481210faf5ae37045916f7ac77b548e2bf5d19/src/createServer.js#L128
2015-08-01 19:45:22	rom1504	you can just give the publicKey there, no need to say "publicKeyLength": client.publicKey.length
2015-08-01 19:47:43	HansiHE	right, i get that
2015-08-01 19:48:09	HansiHE	but having that minor convenience introduces a lot of complexity to the packet description format
2015-08-01 19:51:58	rom1504	hmm I think that information (the link between the counted field and the count field) should be in the packet description, I guess the implementation could use the 'count' in the array, but that would probably make the implementation more complex
2015-08-01 19:52:15	rom1504	I don't think it add that much complexity to the packet description format really
2015-08-01 19:54:11	rom1504	ammar2: hmm I actually already put it in mineacraft-data, it seems to me it fits there, it's a repo to store various minecraft data (blocks, items, ...) info with about the same kind of spirit that the protocol file, do you think a repo in mcdevs would be better ?
2015-08-01 19:54:45	+ammar2	rom1504: for the protocol specifically, yeah I think an "official" repo would be better
2015-08-01 19:54:47	HansiHE	yeah, its true that that information probably should be in the packet description
2015-08-01 20:05:37	rom1504	ammar2: hmm ok, so either we create a new repo specifically for the protocol file, or maybe minecraft-data could become that official repo (no pb with moving it I think). minecraft-data is already language independant, and it's fairly light so depending would not be a pb I think (compared to a repo with only the protocol file)
2015-08-01 20:05:52	rom1504	*depending on it
2015-08-01 20:06:17	rom1504	I'm talking about https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data
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2015-08-01 20:06:58	+ammar2	sure, I think it contains a lot of information that might be useful to people writing server/clients
2015-08-01 20:07:03	+ammar2	may as well have it up on an official repo
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2015-08-01 20:14:53	rom1504	ok :)
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2015-08-01 20:18:21	rom1504	unrelated question : anyone know the movement speed on soul sand ?
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2015-08-01 20:59:25	Corgano	Hey, does anyone here have a good computer for recording?
2015-08-01 21:00:07	Corgano	I need a video of someone walking in a straight line over soulsand, with F3 showing, so I can calculate max speed over soulsand
2015-08-01 21:00:18	Corgano	but my computer is lacking in the graphics department and lags
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2015-08-01 21:40:46	+ammar2	conehead: looks like whenever an entity steps on it their x/y movement is multiplied by 0.4
2015-08-01 21:41:13	conehead	Corgano ^
2015-08-01 21:41:23	+ammar2	whoops
2015-08-01 21:41:24	+ammar2	sorry
2015-08-01 21:41:37	conehead	it happens d:
2015-08-01 21:43:17	+ammar2	Corgano: so yeah, 40% of whatever the normal speed is
2015-08-01 21:57:55	rom1504	ok
2015-08-01 22:05:38	rom1504	ammar2: https://help.github.com/articles/transferring-a-repository/#transferring-between-organizations "You can arrange this by asking the receiving organization to create a team with admin privileges with no repositories in it."
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2015-08-01 23:09:16	Not-c389	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vOsxs
2015-08-01 23:09:17	Not-c389	[mineflayer] rom1504 e357354 - fix soul sand speed, fix #314
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2015-08-02 00:57:38	Wuppie	Hey guys, for sending an Angle. As it is a byte. and yaw goes further than 256. How am i supposed to send them? :)
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2015-08-02 01:00:32	+Thinkofdeath	Wuppie: (deg/360)*256 or (rad/PI*2)*256
2015-08-02 01:00:52	Wuppie	thank u Thinkofdeath :)
2015-08-02 01:01:06	angal	:)
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2015-08-02 08:51:53	prplz	Thinkofdeath do you think it's safe to instantly ban players for ridiculous head pitch?
2015-08-02 09:08:14	ScruffyRules	no
2015-08-02 09:08:29	ScruffyRules	What if they lag?
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2015-08-02 15:18:16	Neon	Hello, I'm trying to retrieve the status information of a Minecraft server (with Ruby) and it works, but it always waits a few seconds until I get the answer. How can I tell the server that my packet stream is at its end and I want to have the response now?
2015-08-02 15:27:04	Fenhl	I'm pretty sure that concept does not exist in TCP
2015-08-02 15:27:11	Fenhl	correct me if I'm wrong
2015-08-02 15:28:42	Neon	So it's normal that one has to wait a few (noticable) seconds until the server answers with the status?
2015-08-02 15:29:32	+Amaranth	Are you talking about the server list ping packet info?
2015-08-02 15:31:55	Neon	I'm talking about http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Protocol&oldid=6003#Request , which appears to be what I need. It returns a JSON structure with server name, player count, max players and the like.
2015-08-02 15:34:07	Neon	I'm just sending a handshake, 0x0100 for the status request and nothing more. I get the response after 30 seconds. Appears to be a timeout so I assume the server expects some code that says "That's it, I'm done sending stuff".
2015-08-02 15:36:47	+Amaranth	Neon: Try sending it a ping?
2015-08-02 15:37:23	Neon	Amaranth, < Handshake < Status Request < Ping ?
2015-08-02 15:38:00	+Amaranth	Yeah the flow says you should get the status response before sending a ping but *shrug*
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2015-08-02 15:48:19	Fenhl	I think the status state protocol might be somewhat hackish for backwards compatibility with older clients
2015-08-02 15:48:43	Fenhl	but yeah, I'm definitely adding that to the article
2015-08-02 15:49:14	Neon	To prevent irritation: I'm talking about an 1.7.10 server and I'm using protocol version 5.
2015-08-02 15:49:30	Neon	Or wait, actually I'm testing it with a 1.8 server. May that be a problem?
2015-08-02 15:51:28	Fenhl	no, they should be 100% compatible
2015-08-02 15:51:56	Fenhl	(with regard to status, that is)
2015-08-02 16:06:57	Neon	So, without the ping packet, this is what I'm sending: "\x0F\x00\x05\tlocalhostc\xDD\x01" (packet length 15, id 0 (handshake), protocol ver 5, 9 chars, 'localhost', 0x63dd = 25565, 1 for status) "\x01\x00" (packet length 1, packet id 0 (status request))
2015-08-02 16:16:21	johni0702	Neon, I took what you're sending, put it into a python program (https://i.johni0702.de/6.txt) and got a response within less than 1 second (from a vanilla 15w31c server). Are you sure the data is actually sent when you think it is?
2015-08-02 16:17:20	Neon	johni0702: Interesting argument. I'll have a look at the library I'm usign.
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2015-08-02 16:25:57	Neon	johni0702, you script works for me, too. So it's probably a Ruby issue. Thanks for that though.
2015-08-02 16:26:01	Neon	thought*
2015-08-02 16:32:09	Voltasalt	How do you change a player's game mode?
2015-08-02 16:32:17	Voltasalt	I see no "Change GameMode" packet
2015-08-02 16:33:04	johni0702	Voltasalt, http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Change_Game_State
2015-08-02 16:33:38	Voltasalt	derp
2015-08-02 16:33:46	Voltasalt	well, that's counter intuitivr
2015-08-02 16:54:58	+Amaranth	Neon: Try tossing in a connection.flush call?
2015-08-02 16:55:58	Neon	Amaranth, yeah, tried that, but no luck. I you want to and have Ruby installed you can give it a go yourself: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/924abbb0af319dad728e
2015-08-02 16:57:21	Neon	I'll probably end up calling the python script from my Ruby script. The main thing is that it works.
2015-08-02 16:59:00	+Amaranth	Oh I think I know the problem
2015-08-02 16:59:18	+Amaranth	You're probably not waiting for the server to send anything, you're waiting for the server to hang up
2015-08-02 16:59:25	+Amaranth	Because you're doing a "read everything" call
2015-08-02 16:59:36	+Amaranth	Only 1.8.8 and newer hang up the connection right after answering
2015-08-02 16:59:57	+Amaranth	The python script doesn't try to read everything, it tries to read 1024 bytes
2015-08-02 17:03:17	Neon	Amaranth, you are the hero of the day. :D
2015-08-02 17:04:15	ScruffyRules	Isn't he always? <333 *flutters in love*
2015-08-02 17:04:28	Wuppie	it's so funny to see so many people writing a MC server lol
2015-08-02 17:04:47	+Amaranth	hehe
2015-08-02 17:04:54	 *	Thinkofdeath waits for one to finish
2015-08-02 17:04:55	+Thinkofdeath	:)
2015-08-02 17:04:56	gurun	lol
2015-08-02 17:05:02	Wuppie	hahah xD
2015-08-02 17:05:23	Wuppie	well, i just updated my server to the latest snapshot protocol :P
2015-08-02 17:05:59	Wuppie	need to redo my Redstone implementation tho...  The way i wrote it. It sucks 
2015-08-02 17:06:41	+Amaranth	Thinkofdeath: MCServer has everything but redstone, doesn't it?
2015-08-02 17:06:48	+Amaranth	Well, I don't know if they have entity AI
2015-08-02 17:07:15	Wuppie	Amaranth, it's called CubeRite now
2015-08-02 17:07:15	Wuppie	lol
2015-08-02 17:07:40	Wuppie	It works pretty good actually
2015-08-02 17:08:08	+Amaranth	iirc it was also a bit ugly
2015-08-02 17:08:15	+Amaranth	Looked like Minecraft written in C++
2015-08-02 17:08:29	+Thinkofdeath	'A custom Minecraft compatible game server' why does this sound like its going the route of spout?
2015-08-02 17:10:17	angal	:)
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2015-08-02 17:38:58	+ammar2	Thinkofdeath: well at least they don't wanna try making a voxel game engine >.>
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2015-08-02 18:17:51	+Thinkofdeath	ammar2: yet
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2015-08-02 22:49:05	Aragas	well, makin "not-only-minecraft" server/client is interesting, but it will kill ya
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2015-08-03 04:45:21	+XorBoole	was this channel ever logged or is that just a farce?
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2015-08-03 05:18:20	humerusj	"Channel is publicly logged as of Feb.25/13"
2015-08-03 05:18:36	humerusj	XorBoole: it says it in the title, so it must be true!
2015-08-03 05:21:26	zml	well considering probably like 90% of the people in here run irc clients that log stuff, yeah
2015-08-03 05:22:01	humerusj	zml: "publicly"
2015-08-03 05:22:25	zml	wouldn't be surprised if someone has public logs
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2015-08-03 15:28:18	Fenhl	XorBoole: I was under the impression that this part of the topic is there so we can quote the devs on the wiki
2015-08-03 15:28:38	redstonehelper	hah
2015-08-03 15:28:48	+ammar2	lol
2015-08-03 15:29:12	+ammar2	I think freenode policy requries you to link the public log in the topic
2015-08-03 15:30:41	+ammar2	https://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml last section
2015-08-03 15:34:52	rom1504	I don't know a chan that comply to this on freenode
2015-08-03 15:42:22	+XorBoole	> freenode
2015-08-03 15:42:23	+XorBoole	> rules
2015-08-03 15:44:16	+ammar2	XorBoole: irc is very srs bzns
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2015-08-03 15:44:40	+XorBoole	srs bidness?
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2015-08-03 17:05:01	Dapper	Does anyone here know python?
2015-08-03 17:06:23	shoghicp	ssshshshsss?
2015-08-03 17:06:30	 *	Aikar waits for ammar to pop up
2015-08-03 17:07:03	Dapper	The  coding lanuage, not the reptile.
2015-08-03 17:07:26	Aikar	ammar is not a reptile
2015-08-03 17:07:41	Dapper	A python is a reptile.
2015-08-03 17:07:50	Aikar	wat
2015-08-03 17:07:57	Dapper	lol
2015-08-03 17:07:58	Dapper	nvm
2015-08-03 17:08:06	Dapper	Ammar knows python
2015-08-03 17:08:10	Aikar	yes...
2015-08-03 17:08:16	Aikar	hes the author of PyCraft
2015-08-03 17:08:21	Dapper	Ah
2015-08-03 17:08:40	Dapper	Do you know the mc protocol?
2015-08-03 17:08:53	Aikar	I dont much
2015-08-03 17:09:06	Aikar	I just know shaky shakey, crypty crpyty, talky talky
2015-08-03 17:09:19	Dapper	lol
2015-08-03 17:09:59	Dapper	Well im starting a project called Minethon, its a minecraft server made to run very well on a raspberry pi.
2015-08-03 17:10:19	Aikar	lol
2015-08-03 17:10:27	Aikar	sounds ambitious
2015-08-03 17:10:31	Dapper	Yep
2015-08-03 17:11:00	Dapper	It would be really cool to have something that would run great on such a machine.
2015-08-03 17:11:26	Aikar	though not sure the benefits over just running it on your desktop
2015-08-03 17:12:16	Dapper	Most people don't want to host a server on their computer, because it can cause different problems...
2015-08-03 17:12:40	Aikar	well you need to use C to pull that off right? have you looked into just contributing to the existing C servers instead of starting from scratch?
2015-08-03 17:12:57	Aikar	for an alt to really be viable, need a COMPLETE server, not tons of 10% done ones :s
2015-08-03 17:13:01	Dapper	Actually, im coding it in python.
2015-08-03 17:13:29	Aikar	hmm, wont you cap out on capabilities pretty quick?
2015-08-03 17:13:38	Aikar	aiming for like a 3 person limited world size server?
2015-08-03 17:13:45	Dapper	Possibly, but theirs always a way around.
2015-08-03 17:14:35	Dapper	Luckily python has threading built in...
2015-08-03 17:15:48	Aikar	how many cores does a pi have
2015-08-03 17:15:54	Dapper	lol
2015-08-03 17:15:55	Dapper	1
2015-08-03 17:16:03	Aikar	... so why is threading relevant? :
2015-08-03 17:16:18	Aikar	you need to use that async IO library
2015-08-03 17:16:23	Aikar	Twisted is it?
2015-08-03 17:16:27	Dapper	Im taking about multiple client connection threading.
2015-08-03 17:16:32	+Fador	raspi2 has 4 cores
2015-08-03 17:16:49	Aikar	right, dont use threads for connection handling
2015-08-03 17:16:54	Aikar	youll waste even more resources doing that
2015-08-03 17:17:21	Aikar	https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio.html
2015-08-03 17:17:44	Aikar	you need to design the whole thing with async in mind
2015-08-03 17:18:22	Aikar	and i guess have 1 thread (with low priority) for "offloaded" tasks in the chance its running on a raspi2
2015-08-03 17:19:01	Aikar	unless your wanting to ONLY support raspi2 then that gives you better options
2015-08-03 17:19:27	Dapper	Im thinking about that...
2015-08-03 17:19:45	Aikar	id suggest it if you really want to take it seriously, being limited to 1 core will be extremely limiting in design
2015-08-03 17:20:12	Aikar	chunk loading and networking really needs to be offloaded
2015-08-03 17:20:22	+ammar2	Dapper: btw python doesn't handle threading very well
2015-08-03 17:20:30	Aikar	there he is!
2015-08-03 17:20:34	+ammar2	it has a global interpreter lock
2015-08-03 17:20:34	 *	Aikar huggles ammar2.
2015-08-03 17:20:44	+ammar2	any time a thread needs to touch a python object it has to acquire the lock
2015-08-03 17:21:04	Dapper	hmm
2015-08-03 17:21:12	Aikar	that sounds like threads are useless in python heh
2015-08-03 17:21:44	+ammar2	only exceptions are c extensions for python which can release the GIL at will when they're doing IO etc
2015-08-03 17:21:58	+ammar2	if you're looking for really good performance python is probably not what you want
2015-08-03 17:22:29	Dapper	eh
2015-08-03 17:22:43	Dapper	I can figure something out.
2015-08-03 17:24:54	barneygale	Dapper, you might want to try hacking an existing C/C++ server to run on rpi
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2015-08-03 17:38:35	+ammar2	Aikar: kinda, most io in the stdlib releases the gil so if your thread is doing that sorta stuff it works fine
2015-08-03 17:38:44	+ammar2	but yeah its not ideal
2015-08-03 17:40:49	+ammar2	personally I don't use python for bleeding edge performance, I just use it for quick prototyping and writing nice maintainable code
2015-08-03 17:41:11	rom1504	I can't quite see why you'd want to do a specific server for the raspberry pi
2015-08-03 17:41:30	rom1504	adding some performance settings to an existing one might be more efficient
2015-08-03 17:41:43	+ammar2	yeah doing it from scratch seems a bit needless
2015-08-03 17:42:13	+ammar2	like barney said building up off one of the existing c/c++ projects and then working around the pi's limitations would probably be better
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2015-08-03 18:45:06	+Amaranth	barneygale: Cuberite (MCServer) even has binaries for rpi iirc
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2015-08-04 00:49:56	morfin	hello
2015-08-04 00:51:16	morfin	is world in Minecraft just result of Perlin noise+Perlin worms(caves) + trees + villages + mineshafts + ravines + other stuff?
2015-08-04 01:10:35	gurun	morfin, it's the result of a programmer stumbling on a screenshot on a webpage from a math-guy doing stuff for science and you turn it into an excercise of flipping switches for amusement. 
2015-08-04 01:10:41	gurun	and then add some trees, yes.
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2015-08-04 01:22:40	Aragas	isn't it just rand function?
2015-08-04 01:22:53	Aragas	who needs perlin anyway
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2015-08-04 01:35:01	Dapper	Redstone minecraft server, http://redstone.net63.net/
2015-08-04 01:36:10	+XorBoole	for a second I thought you meant a minecraft server made with redstone
2015-08-04 01:36:21	+XorBoole	at which point I was utterlly terrified
2015-08-04 01:36:28	+XorBoole	I mean, redstone is turing complete, so...
2015-08-04 01:38:01	Dapper	lol
2015-08-04 01:39:28	+XorBoole	"minecraft server in one command"
2015-08-04 01:39:38	zml	aaaaaahhhh
2015-08-04 01:39:54	+XorBoole	aaaaaaaahhhhhhh
2015-08-04 01:40:42	zml	AAAAAAHHHHHH
2015-08-04 01:43:05	Dapper	Ill be uploading my code to github soon, if anyone wants to help/contribute, feel free to do so.
2015-08-04 01:46:12	+XorBoole	nah you're better off staying here and screaming
2015-08-04 01:46:14	+XorBoole	AHHHHH
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2015-08-04 01:46:37	zml	yep, this is my favorite place to scream
2015-08-04 01:46:45	zml	AHH AHHH AHH
2015-08-04 01:48:16	Dapper	well then
2015-08-04 01:48:20	Dapper	AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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2015-08-04 02:09:50	Not-c389	[mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vOEk2
2015-08-04 02:09:51	Not-c389	[mineflayer] rom1504 1cf0f7c - more precise lookAt before digging, similar to e1a8b5d0e71d504bd9faaafab0c129d6e5a645be
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2015-08-04 04:17:21	Corgano	Does anyone know a good launcher that I can start with command line email and password, and it'll start the client?
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2015-08-04 04:30:20	Corgano	Anyone get my message about a launcher that will let me specify username / password?
2015-08-04 04:30:24	Corgano	I got dc'd
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2015-08-04 04:56:27	Fenhl	I don't know of any such launcher, sorry
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2015-08-04 05:34:45	+SpaceManiac	doesn't the normal launcher support that?
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2015-08-04 06:24:24	Fenhl	does anyone know what the max value for the boss bar is? http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Boss_Bar
2015-08-04 06:24:52	Fenhl	is it simply 1.0, or does it depend on the number of dividers?
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2015-08-04 10:50:37	angal	Why the uuid's send to client for non-player entties?
2015-08-04 11:15:53	rom1504	Fenhl: the max value of what field ?
2015-08-04 11:17:01	rom1504	oh "health" I guess
2015-08-04 11:17:35	rom1504	no idea
2015-08-04 11:27:05	morfin	so much math :D
2015-08-04 11:27:33	morfin	i am reading theory how Perlin noise works)
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2015-08-04 13:15:48	johni0702	Fenhl, values from 0 (https://i.johni0702.de/nz.png) to 1 (https://i.johni0702.de/ny.png). Values greater than 1 do not crash the client (e.g. 1.5 https://i.johni0702.de/nA.png). It does not depend on the dividers.
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2015-08-04 15:12:35	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-08-04 15:57:12	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-04 16:01:12	Fenhl	johni0702: thanks
2015-08-04 16:25:00	<--	ferrybig (~ferrybig@2001:983:a317:1:ba27:ebff:fe6d:5f98) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2015-08-04 16:32:43	-->	ferrybig (~ferrybig@2001:983:a317:1:ba27:ebff:fe6d:5f98) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-04 16:42:42	<--	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Quit: UUID00)
2015-08-04 17:12:56	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-08-04 17:28:18	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-04 17:48:20	-->	Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:9992:938:ca96:adfa) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-04 19:11:21	morfin	wtf is that glitch?
2015-08-04 19:19:15	<--	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Quit: UUID00)
2015-08-04 19:55:02	-->	RenegadeEagle (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-04 20:29:16	-->	barneygale_ (~barneygal@2.220.1.79) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-04 20:29:50	<--	txomon|fon (~txomon@unaffiliated/txomon) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2015-08-04 20:42:27	-->	txomon|fon (~txomon@unaffiliated/txomon) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-04 20:52:07	rom1504	overflow > *
2015-08-04 20:54:10	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-04 20:54:17	<--	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit)
2015-08-04 21:45:08	<--	RenegadeEagle (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2015-08-04 22:44:48	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-04 22:57:45	<--	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Quit: UUID00)
2015-08-04 23:05:51	<--	Prf_Jakob (~jakob@c-80d3e055.141-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2015-08-04 23:05:59	-->	Prf_Jakob (~jakob@c-80d3e055.141-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-04 23:05:59	--	Mode #mcdevs [+v Prf_Jakob] par ChanServ
2015-08-04 23:19:06	<--	redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Quit: redstonehelper)
2015-08-05 00:24:53	-->	benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-08-05 01:17:36	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-08-05 02:16:14	<--	Aragas (Aragas@37-145-13-104.broadband.corbina.ru) a quitté (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2015-08-05 04:20:37	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r
2015-08-05 05:08:20	<--	vemacs (~vemacs@unaffiliated/vemacs) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2015-08-05 05:09:16	-->	vemacs (~vemacs@unaffiliated/vemacs) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 05:28:17	<--	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2015-08-05 05:30:56	-->	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 06:25:10	<--	Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:9992:938:ca96:adfa) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2015-08-05 06:58:38	-->	Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:99c1:1571:1eff:997d) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 08:33:10	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-08-05 08:38:12	-->	mniip (mniip@april-fools/2014/third/mniip) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 09:05:01	-->	barneygale_ (~barneygal@2.220.1.79) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 09:15:48	<--	barneygale_ (~barneygal@2.220.1.79) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2015-08-05 09:18:15	<--	bildramer (~bildramer@p5DC8ABC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2015-08-05 09:44:29	-->	The_Yeti (~theyeti@c-73-157-143-173.hsd1.or.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 10:02:46	-->	bildramer (~bildramer@p5DC8ABC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 11:02:39	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2015-08-05 11:11:46	-->	Aragas (Aragas@37-145-13-104.broadband.corbina.ru) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 11:16:47	<--	txomon|fon (~txomon@unaffiliated/txomon) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2015-08-05 11:27:45	<--	Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:99c1:1571:1eff:997d) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2015-08-05 11:31:10	-->	txomon|fon (~txomon@195.16.128.138) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 11:31:11	<--	txomon|fon (~txomon@195.16.128.138) a quitté (Changing host)
2015-08-05 11:31:11	-->	txomon|fon (~txomon@unaffiliated/txomon) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 12:06:22	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r
2015-08-05 12:28:02	<--	Aragas (Aragas@37-145-13-104.broadband.corbina.ru) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2015-08-05 13:18:07	--	The_Yeti est maintenant connu sous le nom The_Yeti|AFK
2015-08-05 13:36:13	-->	barneygale_ (~barneygal@2.220.1.79) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 13:42:37	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 13:43:03	<--	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit)
2015-08-05 14:37:16	--	zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r
2015-08-05 14:56:08	-->	konwboj (~konwboj@dax211.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 15:17:28	-->	SopaXT2 (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 15:17:47	--	SopaXT2 est maintenant connu sous le nom SopaXorzTaker
2015-08-05 15:24:15	ashka	hi, I have a lot of servers running that hit the mojang UUID resolver API and I get rate limited often, I'd like to create a custom cache for all the server to hit on. As the API is https, does the server checks for the SSL certificate to ensure against spoofing or not ?
2015-08-05 15:27:38	rom1504	ashka: maybe you'd be interested by http://mcuuid.net/
2015-08-05 15:28:23	rom1504	(and http://wiki.vg/Mojang_API)
2015-08-05 15:28:29	rom1504	I don't think https is a pb
2015-08-05 15:28:48	ashka	rom1504: my concern really is if the server checks the API SSL fingerprint
2015-08-05 15:48:58	-->	Aragas (Aragas@37-145-13-104.broadband.corbina.ru) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 15:52:36	<--	yosafbridge (~yosafbrid@2607:5300:100:200::160d) a quitté (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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2015-08-05 16:01:26	<--	SopaXorzTaker (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2015-08-05 16:10:51	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-08-05 16:16:59	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±44] http://git.io/vOiiT
2015-08-05 16:17:01	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath 3eafc14 - 15w32a
2015-08-05 16:21:07	-->	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 16:29:48	<--	UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Quit: UUID00)
2015-08-05 16:58:55	-->	SopaXorzTaker (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 17:23:09	Voltasalt	How do you send JUST a tab list header?
2015-08-05 17:24:51	+Amaranth	Voltasalt: You have to send a footer too
2015-08-05 17:25:46	Voltasalt	can you send a "blank" footer though?
2015-08-05 17:25:53	Voltasalt	that's not there
2015-08-05 17:25:59	Voltasalt	not just still there but empty
2015-08-05 17:28:16	+Amaranth	I assume if you send an empty string it won't display anything
2015-08-05 17:28:21	+Amaranth	But I've never tested
2015-08-05 17:38:47	Voltasalt	Amaranth, it doesn't
2015-08-05 17:38:57	Voltasalt	it still displays the header/footer
2015-08-05 17:38:59	Voltasalt	but with nothing in it
2015-08-05 17:39:03	+Amaranth	Sucks
2015-08-05 17:39:10	Voltasalt	so there's still a large ugly blank space up there
2015-08-05 17:39:24	+Amaranth	Guess they didn't think of that?
2015-08-05 17:39:41	Voltasalt	probably not
2015-08-05 17:42:17	<--	SopaXorzTaker (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2015-08-05 18:36:44	-->	Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:c4ff:34ac:154c:d15b) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 18:40:31	konwboj	Voltasalt: Works for me. http://i.imgur.com/gdntb8U.png
2015-08-05 18:40:52	Voltasalt	konwboj, which server software is this?
2015-08-05 18:41:06	konwboj	Vanilla with MCP
2015-08-05 18:41:09	Voltasalt	ok
2015-08-05 18:41:17	Voltasalt	how are you sending the packet?
2015-08-05 18:41:25	Voltasalt	for the blank one
2015-08-05 18:41:33	Voltasalt	""? {text:""}? null?
2015-08-05 18:41:47	konwboj	I use IChatComponent with empty getformattedtext
2015-08-05 18:42:04	Voltasalt	how did you accomplish that?
2015-08-05 18:42:15	konwboj	Vanilla adds RESET to text components
2015-08-05 18:42:17	Voltasalt	no matter what I try it always includes &f in the getformattedtext
2015-08-05 18:42:22	Voltasalt	or sth
2015-08-05 18:42:39	konwboj	Are you using bukkit/spigot?
2015-08-05 18:49:21	-->	Not-5015 (~notifico@198.199.82.216) a rejoint #mcdevs
2015-08-05 18:49:21	Not-5015	[1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+6/-1/±4] http://git.io/vOPFs
2015-08-05 18:49:22	Not-5015	[1.8-Models] drXor 0a37088 - Add the rest of the pickaxes.
2015-08-05 19:35:38	johni0702	Voltasalt, I don't think there's a way to do that with a vanilla client
2015-08-05 19:40:42	johni0702	nvm, got it working with vanilla 1.8
2015-08-05 20:16:05	<--	benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection)
2015-08-05 20:50:15	--	The_Yeti|AFK est maintenant connu sous le nom The_Yeti
2015-08-05 21:59:28	-->	RenegadeEagle (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a rejoint #mcdevs
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2015-08-05 22:50:22	<--	johni0702 (johni0702@johni0702.de) a quitté #mcdevs ("Leaving")
2015-08-05 23:11:07	barneygale_	login servers seem very trigger happy about rate-throttling you nowadays
2015-08-05 23:25:11	morfin	hm?
2015-08-05 23:26:20	+ammar2	hit the login server with too many requests and it'll start dropping http errors on you
2015-08-05 23:27:14	<--	gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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2015-08-05 23:27:55	barneygale_	I get "unauthorized" responses even with correct credentials
2015-08-05 23:38:59	<--	aeonchild (enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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2015-08-06 01:04:52	--	The_Yeti est maintenant connu sous le nom The_Yeti|AFK
2015-08-06 02:10:14	rom15041	Cache the token or something
2015-08-06 02:10:55	rom15041	Unauthorized (also) happens when you ask too many times
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2015-08-06 03:57:04	<--	Aragas (Aragas@37-145-13-104.broadband.corbina.ru) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2015-08-06 04:46:11	--	r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r
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2015-08-06 05:38:02	--	The_Yeti|AFK est maintenant connu sous le nom The_Yeti
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