2015-07-29 17:36:01	+XorBoole	models can now include multiparts and predicates (waiting on Grum for gists), and the "display" tag's defaults changed
2015-07-29 17:36:02	johni0702	Fenhl, seems to be 49
2015-07-29 17:36:53	redstonehelper	XorBoole: I got all but the display tag stuff, what's new with the display tags?
2015-07-29 17:36:58	Fenhl	johni0702: thanks
2015-07-29 17:37:10	+XorBoole	also, json models are now strict json, so no comments and mojangson-like quote-less names
2015-07-29 17:37:43	+XorBoole	redstonehelper the defauls are different. if you make a block and don't provide a "gui" display tag, it won't be the default isometric
2015-07-29 17:37:51	+XorBoole	defaults are found in models/block/block.json
2015-07-29 17:38:01	+XorBoole	working on a script to update my models atm
2015-07-29 17:38:04	redstonehelper	can I ping you about this later?
2015-07-29 17:38:12	+XorBoole	assuming I see it, yes
2015-07-29 17:38:16	redstonehelper	maybe you can write me up a few bullet points I can just paste so I don't have to understand it :D
2015-07-29 17:38:40	+XorBoole	like I said, I'm waiting on a certain mojang employee to show up and shout at me for pinging him
2015-07-29 17:39:05	angal	Wow. They changed id orderring. Cool.
2015-07-29 17:39:17	johni0702	out of curiosity: how is the data in mc-autodocs/protocol being generated?
2015-07-29 17:39:43	+XorBoole	johni0702 Thinkofdeath magic
2015-07-29 17:39:48	+XorBoole	thinkmagic, if you will
2015-07-29 17:41:00	ScruffyRules	Or Magicofdeath
2015-07-29 17:41:07	ScruffyRules	which I like a lot better. xD
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2015-07-29 17:42:39	+XorBoole	no, when you talk about something thinky made, it's think<blank>
2015-07-29 17:42:43	+XorBoole	steven is the thinkclient
2015-07-29 17:42:50	+XorBoole	written in thinkcode
2015-07-29 17:44:13	+XorBoole	redstonehelper https://gist.github.com/drXor/a8b97506376597292ba7
2015-07-29 17:44:23	+Amaranth	angal: Block ids?
2015-07-29 17:44:39	redstonehelper	XorBoole: time of day predicate is only for clocks right?
2015-07-29 17:45:04	ScruffyRules	XorBoole, item damage, could I have an iron block look different? :P
2015-07-29 17:45:06	angal	Items. Bloccks seemed to be as they were
2015-07-29 17:45:15	redstonehelper	ScruffyRules: only stuff with damage bar.
2015-07-29 17:45:19	+XorBoole	redstonehelper no, also item damage, and compass
2015-07-29 17:45:21	ScruffyRules	Awh :(
2015-07-29 17:45:30	redstonehelper	XorBoole: yeah I knew that already, but I'll add the rest - thanks!
2015-07-29 17:45:31	+XorBoole	I believe anything can use any predicate
2015-07-29 17:45:39	redstonehelper	reddit /u/ is xor_boole?
2015-07-29 17:45:43	+XorBoole	correct
2015-07-29 17:45:45	+XorBoole	Xor_Boole
2015-07-29 17:45:53	redstonehelper	can you see if time predicate works on for example diamonds?
2015-07-29 17:46:03	+XorBoole	one second
2015-07-29 17:46:07	ScruffyRules	Only night time diamond mining. 
2015-07-29 17:46:14	ScruffyRules	Sounds awesome.
2015-07-29 17:46:40	+Amaranth	angal: Oh, but item ids have different values now vs 1.8?
2015-07-29 17:47:27	angal	Let me check, to be shure.
2015-07-29 17:47:41	redstonehelper	they should be the same I hope
2015-07-29 17:47:54	+Amaranth	I think if they changed it'd require a map conversion
2015-07-29 17:48:07	+XorBoole	redstonehelper it does not
2015-07-29 17:48:09	+XorBoole	clock-only
2015-07-29 17:48:12	+XorBoole	that's annoying
2015-07-29 17:48:17	 *	XorBoole adds to list of griviences
2015-07-29 17:48:48	redstonehelper	hehe just like grüm tweeted :D
2015-07-29 17:49:16	+XorBoole	I bet that still pings him
2015-07-29 17:49:27	+XorBoole	gr-m pings him, I'm pretty sure
2015-07-29 17:49:48	redstonehelper	I'm only going so far as to not ping him
2015-07-29 17:49:58	redstonehelper	heck, I bet anything matching g.*m pings him
2015-07-29 17:50:03	angal	Sorry. Falss warning. Ids keept old.
2015-07-29 17:50:13	Aikar	pff, stop trying to not ping people :P if your talking about them, just say their name :P
2015-07-29 17:50:28	+XorBoole	blame the "don't ping mojangstas rule"
2015-07-29 17:50:37	redstonehelper	is there such a rule here?
2015-07-29 17:50:51	+XorBoole	if you don't have something important to talk to them, yes
2015-07-29 17:50:52	redstonehelper	we have one in #minecraft and it makes sense here because they'd get pinged too often otherwise
2015-07-29 17:51:03	redstonehelper	with them working and being one of the main focuses (focii?) here
2015-07-29 17:51:09	+XorBoole	yeah we keep fanboys out of here mostly though, so it's rarely needed
2015-07-29 17:51:27	Aikar	wait, why are mojang people in #minecraft? that channels never been about minecraft
2015-07-29 17:51:38	+XorBoole	I usually rain fury on people who ping me in #spigot
2015-07-29 17:51:45	redstonehelper	Aikar: probably why they are there :DD
2015-07-29 17:51:53	 *	jast writes autoping script
2015-07-29 17:51:59	Aikar	i doubt mojang cares to know the latest 4chan ramblings
2015-07-29 17:52:06	+XorBoole	banhammer in 3, 2, 1...
2015-07-29 17:52:16	+XorBoole	Aikar clearly you don't know db then
2015-07-29 17:52:19	Aikar	lol
2015-07-29 17:52:20	 *	XorBoole hides
2015-07-29 17:53:08	+XorBoole	I mean, you can understand why they don't want to be pinged
2015-07-29 17:53:17	+XorBoole	it's like those wierd kids that asked me for autographs at minecon.
2015-07-29 17:53:23	+XorBoole	"wat" "go away"
2015-07-29 17:53:32	redstonehelper	pinging in general isn't bad I guess, but when you're very related to the main focus of a channel I understand how it can get annoying real fast
2015-07-29 17:55:01	+XorBoole	> very related
2015-07-29 17:55:12	+XorBoole	> non-minecraft posts about the devs get removed from /r/minecraft
2015-07-29 17:55:13	 *	XorBoole runs
2015-07-29 17:55:23	+Amaranth	redstonehelper: Can you make a map in 1.8, brew a potion, then load the world in 1.9?
2015-07-29 17:55:34	redstonehelper	Amaranth: sure, any specific pot or 1.8 version?
2015-07-29 17:55:36	+Amaranth	Apparently potions only use NBT now and I've been told the damage values don't work at all
2015-07-29 17:55:45	redstonehelper	also, look at this unicorn http://i.imgur.com/0GxCwkM.jpg
2015-07-29 17:56:01	+XorBoole	Amaranth really? what color do potions with multiple effects take?
2015-07-29 17:56:02	+Amaranth	redstonehelper: 1.8.8 is fine, I think even a mundane potion would be enough
2015-07-29 17:56:15	+Amaranth	XorBoole: The NBT for potions has the concept of a primary
2015-07-29 17:56:27	+XorBoole	what about, say, a potion of haste?
2015-07-29 17:56:30	+XorBoole	is it yellow?
2015-07-29 17:56:32	+Amaranth	You've been able to do NBT for potions for a long time now
2015-07-29 17:56:35	+Amaranth	XorBoole: No idea
2015-07-29 17:56:39	+XorBoole	well yeah I know this
2015-07-29 17:56:43	+Amaranth	wtf unicorn
2015-07-29 17:56:43	+XorBoole	but it's a list of effects iirc
2015-07-29 17:56:51	+XorBoole	redstonehelper needs more rainbows
2015-07-29 17:57:04	+Amaranth	Oh maybe that was bukkit API that added a concept of a primary then and wrote it to the damage values?
2015-07-29 17:57:11	+Amaranth	I didn't think so though, thought the NBT had a primary
2015-07-29 17:57:17	+XorBoole	I don't think so
2015-07-29 17:57:25	+XorBoole	I haven't used the bukkit API in a while
2015-07-29 17:58:22	+Amaranth	If this is right people probably want to hold off on updating their worlds to the snapshots if they care about their potions
2015-07-29 17:58:40	+XorBoole	Amaranth I think it'll do conversions I think
2015-07-29 17:58:42	+XorBoole	if it's smart
2015-07-29 17:58:50	+XorBoole	but this is a snapshot sooo
2015-07-29 17:58:51	+Amaranth	XorBoole: It doesn't with /give at least
2015-07-29 17:59:09	+Amaranth	That's why I wanted redstonehelper to check by starting with a potion in 1.8
2015-07-29 17:59:24	+Amaranth	I think you'd have to brew it though since creative might give you one using NBT already
2015-07-29 17:59:35	redstonehelper	brewing manually
2015-07-29 18:00:15	redstonehelper	Amaranth: they're fucked
2015-07-29 18:00:20	redstonehelper	missing model, "water bottle"
2015-07-29 18:00:20	+Amaranth	woo
2015-07-29 18:00:29	+Amaranth	Yep, that's what the other guy got too
2015-07-29 18:00:38	+Amaranth	Guess someone should file a bug report about that
2015-07-29 18:00:42	redstonehelper	I can do it later
2015-07-29 18:00:46	+Amaranth	And list it in their fancy changelog :P
2015-07-29 18:00:48	+XorBoole	something vanilla needs: a way to print an item's NBT in mojangson form
2015-07-29 18:00:54	redstonehelper	I have a list of bugs I want reported and gonna work through the bugs reported since release later
2015-07-29 18:01:23	redstonehelper	XorBoole: throw it on the ground, /entitydata @e[r=3,type=Item] {}
2015-07-29 18:02:07	redstonehelper	they fixed the additional trailing commas on entitdydata :DD
2015-07-29 18:02:29	+XorBoole	ok, who's the shithead that made it so when you search something in minecraftwiki it asks you to sign up for curse?
2015-07-29 18:02:32	redstonehelper	Amaranth: should I report it in case it's not done yet?
2015-07-29 18:02:35	+XorBoole	I really don't want to sign up
2015-07-29 18:02:37	redstonehelper	XorBoole: notchler, clearly
2015-07-29 18:02:42	 *	XorBoole writes tampermonkey script
2015-07-29 18:02:49	redstonehelper	I fucking hate the mwiki now
2015-07-29 18:02:55	redstonehelper	autoplaying ads, annoying shitty popups
2015-07-29 18:03:06	+XorBoole	> ads
2015-07-29 18:03:12	+XorBoole	> not adblocking everything
2015-07-29 18:03:31	+XorBoole	adds are a crime against the internet
2015-07-29 18:03:36	+XorBoole	s/dd/d
2015-07-29 18:03:59	+Amaranth	redstonehelper: Apparently the other guy is too busy playing with the end to report it and I'm too lazy to open MC and confirm it :)
2015-07-29 18:04:20	redstonehelper	ok I'll do it in a bit
2015-07-29 18:04:43	+XorBoole	Amaranth it has the right color =o
2015-07-29 18:05:14	 *	XorBoole disables enchanted glint
2015-07-29 18:05:28	+Amaranth	It probably uses the first entry
2015-07-29 18:05:40	+Amaranth	I'm having a memory of shuffling NBT entries for Bukkit's API
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2015-07-29 18:06:48	+XorBoole	Amaranth it blends them =o
2015-07-29 18:07:45	+Amaranth	Ooh I guess that changed too
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2015-07-29 18:10:57	+XorBoole	the colos blend. impressive, mojang
2015-07-29 18:11:02	+XorBoole	I will be abusing this
2015-07-29 18:11:27	+XorBoole	Amaranth http://puu.sh/jhzfi/cf86a9faf5.png
2015-07-29 18:11:31	+XorBoole	last one is speed + haste
2015-07-29 18:11:35	+XorBoole	haste is yellow
2015-07-29 18:11:45	redstonehelper	ohhhh neat
2015-07-29 18:11:50	Voltasalt	Any documentation on GameProfile's properties and how they're used for, say, skin sending in the player list?
2015-07-29 18:12:00	Voltasalt	Can't find any on wiki.vg other than "properties contain skins"
2015-07-29 18:12:43	+Amaranth	Voltasalt: You're just supposed to forward what you get from Mojang
2015-07-29 18:12:57	+Amaranth	They're even signed to prevent forging or tampering
2015-07-29 18:13:05	+Amaranth	Although I think they're still not enforcing that
2015-07-29 18:13:44	+Amaranth	Anyway iirc it's some json that has a field that is base64'd json
2015-07-29 18:13:59	+XorBoole	let me make a picture of all the potion colors for some reddit karma, brb
2015-07-29 18:14:10	Voltasalt	ah ok thanks
2015-07-29 18:16:17	redstonehelper	XorBoole: rainbow!
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2015-07-29 18:17:45	+XorBoole	redstonehelper http://imgur.com/EfHWgqx
2015-07-29 18:18:02	redstonehelper	sweet
2015-07-29 18:18:07	+XorBoole	all of those are single-color
2015-07-29 18:18:14	+XorBoole	you can mix them together too =D
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2015-07-29 18:23:51	+XorBoole	redstonehelper http://imgur.com/F9aEcnU
2015-07-29 18:24:08	redstonehelper	neat
2015-07-29 18:25:04	+XorBoole	bender_neat.gif.gz
2015-07-29 18:25:14	Voltasalt	but yeah, does 204 No Content from /hasJoined mean auth is successful and it's being cached?
2015-07-29 18:27:24	barneygale	Voltasalt, 204 is an auth failure
2015-07-29 18:27:34	Voltasalt	ok
2015-07-29 18:27:38	Voltasalt	I seem to be getting it a lot though
2015-07-29 18:27:43	Voltasalt	4/5 requests give 204
2015-07-29 18:42:05	Voltasalt	the fuck could I be doing wrong
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2015-07-29 19:31:58	Voltasalt	After 1.9 releases, how long will it take wiki.vg to update fully? Days? Weeks? Months?
2015-07-29 19:36:14	angal	Years?
2015-07-29 19:39:05	+XorBoole	minutes
2015-07-29 19:39:08	 *	XorBoole stares at Thinkofdeath 
2015-07-29 19:45:36	rom1504	Voltasalt: millennia
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2015-07-29 20:35:49	rom1504	it seems serverbound 0x16 and 0x18 have changed
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2015-07-29 21:07:00	Dapper	Does anyone have an example on minecrafts login protocol?
2015-07-29 21:07:37	+ammar2	any particular language?
2015-07-29 21:07:54	Dapper	No
2015-07-29 21:08:27	Dapper	Any will work.
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2015-07-29 21:09:23	+XorBoole	inb4 pycraft
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2015-07-29 21:10:35	Dapper	What?
2015-07-29 21:11:14	+ammar2	also by login do you mean logging in to minecraft or trying to connect to a server
2015-07-29 21:11:44	Dapper	Logging in...
2015-07-29 21:11:52	Dapper	The login protocol
2015-07-29 21:11:59	+ammar2	https://github.com/ammaraskar/pyCraft/blob/master/minecraft/authentication.py
2015-07-29 21:12:11	Dapper	http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Login
2015-07-29 21:12:17	+ammar2	don't be scared by the length of the file
2015-07-29 21:12:20	+ammar2	its mostly just docstrings
2015-07-29 21:13:47	+XorBoole	called it
2015-07-29 21:14:23	+ammar2	there's also steven but I can't be arsed to find the relevant file
2015-07-29 21:14:28	+ammar2	(steven is in go)
2015-07-29 21:14:34	+ammar2	but I figure python is more well known than go
2015-07-29 21:15:01	Dapper	Ok, thanks ammar2
2015-07-29 21:15:23	rom1504	that too https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/src/yggdrasil.js
2015-07-29 21:16:10	rom1504	(or https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/src/createClient.js )
2015-07-29 21:16:49	johni0702	for steven that'd be https://github.com/thinkofdeath/steven/blob/master/protocol/mojang/login.go
2015-07-29 21:19:59	rom1504	hmm I'm getting json error with that snapshot
2015-07-29 21:20:19	+ammar2	json is json
2015-07-29 21:21:17	+Amaranth	Except when you're not writing valid json
2015-07-29 21:24:02	rom1504	well I'm pretty sure JSON.stringify produce valid json
2015-07-29 21:24:02	+XorBoole	except that's still json
2015-07-29 21:24:07	+XorBoole	acording to new Gson()
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2015-07-29 21:32:02	Fenhl	the wiki bot is down
2015-07-29 21:32:43	+XorBoole	I think we should poke the relevant person
2015-07-29 21:34:57	+ammar2	Tk? he's been dead for a while
2015-07-29 21:35:09	+ammar2	idle 676 hours
2015-07-29 21:35:10	+ammar2	good luck
2015-07-29 21:35:11	+XorBoole	hmm
2015-07-29 21:35:25	 *	XorBoole smashes an OVH box over TkTech's head
2015-07-29 21:35:32	+XorBoole	let's see if that wakes him up
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2015-07-29 21:40:51	rom1504	http://download.rom1504.fr/stuff/json_error.png
2015-07-29 21:41:08	rom1504	such an useful error
2015-07-29 21:41:30	rom1504	"there is a json error in the world !!! I give up"
2015-07-29 21:42:30	rom1504	:)
2015-07-29 21:46:59	+ammar2	stop sending malformed json :^)
2015-07-29 21:53:31	rom1504	I'm just proxying though...
2015-07-29 21:54:01	+ammar2	stop proxying malformed json?
2015-07-29 21:55:13	rom1504	yeah but I don't know where that malformed json is
2015-07-29 21:56:21	+ammar2	https://google-gson.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/gson/docs/javadocs/com/google/gson/stream/JsonReader.html#setLenient(boolean)
2015-07-29 21:56:35	+ammar2	well here's a list of stuff you shouldn't be fucking up
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2015-07-29 22:03:21	rom1504	hmm a simple explanation is some packet changed in status/login/handshake state (which aren't "proxied") and some field went from text to json
2015-07-29 22:03:42	rom1504	so the vanilla client is expecting json and I'm giving him something else
2015-07-29 22:04:27	rom1504	hard to say without knowing what changed in the protocol though
2015-07-29 22:04:33	+ammar2	well you know what packet you're sending just as the client gets the error
2015-07-29 22:07:16	rom1504	hmm yeah
2015-07-29 22:07:19	rom1504	client<-server: play.0x20 : {"id":32,"state":"play","entityId":78,"count":2,"properties":[{"key":"generic.maxHealth","value":10,"listLength":0,"modifiers":[]},{"key":"generic.movementSpeed","value":0.25,"listLength":0,"modifiers":[]}]}
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2015-07-29 22:11:38	rom1504	doesn't seem to be the pb though
2015-07-29 22:29:35	redstonehelper	Amaranth: someone reported it before me https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-82925
2015-07-29 22:30:16	+Amaranth	Lots of dupes too :D
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2015-07-29 22:50:35	+XorBoole	dupes?
2015-07-29 22:50:44	 *	XorBoole dupes all of the diamonds and sells them on the black market
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2015-07-29 23:07:02	HansiHE	rom1504, when does it happen?
2015-07-29 23:07:13	HansiHE	before or after spawining?
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2015-07-29 23:18:56	HansiHE	right i'm getting MC|Brand vanilla on 0x18
2015-07-29 23:19:11	HansiHE	so i guess that means the plugin channel packet is 0x18 now?
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2015-07-30 00:20:35	+Thinkofdeath	https://twitter.com/SeargeDP/status/626445233765658624 please don't say he is reverting the strict json change :3
2015-07-30 00:23:00	+XorBoole	oh, mojang
2015-07-30 00:23:42	+Thinkofdeath	I've already got microsoft on my hit list today hopefully I wont have to add another :|
2015-07-30 00:24:46	+XorBoole	well, my resource pack is 100% compliant now
2015-07-30 00:24:53	+Thinkofdeath	finally
2015-07-30 00:24:56	+XorBoole	except for some fixes to display
2015-07-30 00:26:15	redstonehelper	lol at crushedpixel giving searge attitude
2015-07-30 00:26:56	+Thinkofdeath	hehe
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2015-07-30 00:27:16	+Thinkofdeath	To be fair its bloody gson's fault for stupid defaults
2015-07-30 00:38:28	rom1504	HansiHE: after spawning
2015-07-30 00:38:47	rom1504	I can see the world for like 1 second maybe
2015-07-30 00:39:25	rom1504	HansiHE: 0x18 is missing a byte field
2015-07-30 00:40:02	rom1504	oh you think they switched packets ? do they do that ?
2015-07-30 00:40:23	HansiHE	the data i'm getting on 0x18 is ascii
2015-07-30 00:40:31	HansiHE	looks like the plugin channel packet
2015-07-30 00:41:00	rom1504	well 0x18 used to be "spectate"
2015-07-30 00:41:05	HansiHE	yeah
2015-07-30 00:41:12	HansiHE	0x17 was plugin channel
2015-07-30 00:41:27	rom1504	what is 0x17 now ?
2015-07-30 00:41:30	HansiHE	no clue
2015-07-30 00:42:07	rom1504	no json in the plugin channel packet though so I don't think that explain my issue
2015-07-30 00:42:31	rom1504	oh or maybe there is json there ?
2015-07-30 00:42:49	HansiHE	plugin channel is used for some stuff
2015-07-30 00:43:13	HansiHE	they might have shifted some packets upwards to make room for a new one
2015-07-30 00:43:37	HansiHE	maybe someone has ocd and wants related packet ids in order?
2015-07-30 00:43:38	HansiHE	idk
2015-07-30 00:44:18	rom1504	let's see if putting plugin message in 0x18 helps
2015-07-30 00:46:04	HansiHE	in what case does the spectate packet get sent?
2015-07-30 00:46:42	rom1504	hmm putting plugin message in 0x18 doesn't fix it
2015-07-30 00:47:00	rom1504	HansiHE: I think at some point when you are in gamemode 3
2015-07-30 00:47:24	rom1504	well I don't know actually
2015-07-30 00:48:46	HansiHE	hmm
2015-07-30 00:49:05	rom1504	0x16 changed too, 10 bit too much
2015-07-30 00:49:21	rom1504	I just added a double and a short to it but that's silly
2015-07-30 00:49:54	rom1504	I'm getting that kind of value for 0x18 : client->server: play.0x18 : {"id":24,"state":"play","channel":"MC|Brand","data":[7,118,97,110,105,108,108,97]}
2015-07-30 00:49:58	HansiHE	i would bet they shifted some of the packets up one
2015-07-30 00:50:03	rom1504	so it seems you're right for 0x18
2015-07-30 00:50:25	HansiHE	what are the new features in the snapshot?
2015-07-30 00:50:29	HansiHE	what would need a new packet
2015-07-30 00:51:12	Aikar	I want to say thanks that you guys put in the effort to figure all that crap out to make me focusing on gameplay content doable. Dont know what I would do if I had to do all that work too lol
2015-07-30 00:51:45	rom1504	HansiHE: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/15w31a lot of stuff, not sure what would change the protocol
2015-07-30 00:52:42	HansiHE	well, there is dual wielding
2015-07-30 00:52:58	HansiHE	that's the only thing i can think of
2015-07-30 00:55:13	rom1504	so I'm getting 10 additional byte on that packet https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/protocol/protocol.json#L2775
2015-07-30 00:55:25	HansiHE	rom1504, the length fits for packet 0x15
2015-07-30 00:56:09	HansiHE	i think
2015-07-30 00:56:51	rom1504	almost
2015-07-30 00:56:54	rom1504	missing one byte
2015-07-30 00:58:03	rom1504	client->server: play.0x16 : {"id":22,"state":"play","locale":"en_US","viewDistance":12,"chatFlags":0,"chatColors":true,"skinParts":127,"test":1}
2015-07-30 00:58:14	rom1504	seems to work
2015-07-30 00:58:29	rom1504	(except I don't know what is that "test" field I added)
2015-07-30 00:59:24	rom1504	still doesn't fix that json error though
2015-07-30 00:59:28	HansiHE	okey, do the data seems to fit
2015-07-30 00:59:37	HansiHE	there is just an extra boolean or something
2015-07-30 01:01:48	HansiHE	the json error is on the client though, right?
2015-07-30 01:02:31	rom1504	on the vanilla client yes
2015-07-30 01:02:53	HansiHE	right, that means its in a clientbound packet
2015-07-30 01:05:27	HansiHE	it does look like they mostly fucked around with packet ids on the serverbound packets, i bet they did the same thing the other direction as well
2015-07-30 01:06:49	rom1504	it seems to give me that error every time after that packet
2015-07-30 01:06:51	rom1504	client<-server: play.0x20 : {"id":32,"state":"play","entityId":77,"count":2,"properties":[{"key":"generic.maxHealth","value":10,"listLength":0,"modifiers":[]},{"key":"generic.movementSpeed","value":0.25,"listLength":0,"modifiers":[]}]}
2015-07-30 01:07:03	rom1504	but I don't see anything wrong with it so I don't understand
2015-07-30 01:07:19	HansiHE	that probably means its the packet after that
2015-07-30 01:07:33	HansiHE	oh, wait, my mistake
2015-07-30 01:07:54	rom1504	it's possible
2015-07-30 01:08:29	rom1504	well it should print the sent packet before quitting
2015-07-30 01:08:41	HansiHE	yeah
2015-07-30 01:08:50	HansiHE	what packets are sent before that?
2015-07-30 01:09:05	HansiHE	the server could be sending multiple packets in succession before the connection closes
2015-07-30 01:09:42	rom1504	http://pastebin.com/pyXCWrTa
2015-07-30 01:11:02	rom1504	hmm that metadata field
2015-07-30 01:11:26	rom1504	let's hope they didn't put json in that
2015-07-30 01:11:41	rom1504	(entity metadata)
2015-07-30 01:12:14	HansiHE	metadata is normally short and conditionally some bytes followed by nbt i think
2015-07-30 01:12:25	HansiHE	wouldnt make sense to move that to json
2015-07-30 01:13:15	HansiHE	i mean, they might have
2015-07-30 01:13:21	rom1504	I mean 0x1C
2015-07-30 01:13:28	rom1504	http://wiki.vg/Entities#Entity_Metadata_Format
2015-07-30 01:13:40	Not-390	[1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to 1.9 [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vYxld
2015-07-30 01:13:42	Not-390	[1.8-Models] drXor 1eea8bb - Start on a conversion script.
2015-07-30 01:14:48	rom1504	it can contain a string
2015-07-30 01:15:14	rom1504	so I guess if someones goes wrong there it's possible that it is losing json
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2015-07-30 01:16:24	HansiHE	oh, right
2015-07-30 01:16:25	rom1504	{"key":2,"value":"","type":"string"}
2015-07-30 01:16:27	rom1504	hmm
2015-07-30 01:16:35	rom1504	looks weird
2015-07-30 01:16:44	rom1504	I don't know what this is supposed to contain
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2015-07-30 01:17:06	HansiHE	does gson on strict treat an empty string as invalid json?
2015-07-30 01:17:19	HansiHE	you could try putting {} or something in there
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2015-07-30 01:17:53	rom1504	HansiHE: yeah, only array and object are considered valid
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2015-07-30 01:18:21	rom1504	hmm
2015-07-30 01:18:24	HansiHE	yeah, that's very shady then
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2015-07-30 01:25:12	rom1504	hmm doesn't seem to fix it. anyway http://wiki.vg/Entities doesn't mention that this string can be a json
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2015-07-30 01:26:07	HansiHE	hmm
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2015-07-30 01:41:49	rom1504	meh I think the pb is just http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Response
2015-07-30 01:42:06	rom1504	and the vanilla client just takes some time to decide he wants to crash
2015-07-30 01:45:24	rom1504	hmm
2015-07-30 01:45:51	rom1504	no that's status state only
2015-07-30 01:47:36	rom1504	it gives me that error even if I write 0 packet in PLAY state
2015-07-30 01:47:43	rom1504	must be missing something
2015-07-30 01:56:03	HansiHE	oh, you get the error even when don't writing anything in play?
2015-07-30 01:56:34	HansiHE	rom1504, 
2015-07-30 01:57:34	rom1504	I figured out that json error..
2015-07-30 01:57:37	rom1504	so silly
2015-07-30 01:57:52	rom1504	we are closing the connection somewhere by sending a 0x40
2015-07-30 01:58:06	rom1504	apparently with a reason that is not json
2015-07-30 01:58:10	rom1504	and it has to be
2015-07-30 01:58:13	rom1504	..
2015-07-30 01:58:52	rom1504	I don't know what's a valid reason
2015-07-30 01:59:30	rom1504	http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Disconnect
2015-07-30 02:00:27	rom1504	it can't be ""
2015-07-30 02:04:06	rom1504	also I think that's a server bug
2015-07-30 02:04:20	rom1504	the vanilla server is sending me { reason: 'Error' }
2015-07-30 02:04:37	rom1504	ah no
2015-07-30 02:04:41	rom1504	that's me again
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2015-07-30 02:07:59	rom1504	alright that's fixed
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2015-07-30 02:08:16	rom1504	'{"text":"'+endReason+'"}' is valid
2015-07-30 02:12:20	rom1504	now it crashes with a nicer error
2015-07-30 02:12:22	rom1504	..
2015-07-30 02:15:39	rom1504	[Error: Top tag should be a compound]
2015-07-30 02:16:36	rom1504	NBT win
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2015-07-30 03:32:34	Wuppie	hey guys
2015-07-30 03:32:43	Wuppie	i'm trying to implement sending head rotations to the client
2015-07-30 03:33:06	Wuppie	i don't really get how to calculate the head yaw tho..
2015-07-30 03:33:06	Wuppie	:(
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2015-07-30 03:33:57	rom1504	@Wuppie use mineflayer ?
2015-07-30 03:34:07	Wuppie	mineflayer?
2015-07-30 03:34:08	Wuppie	what is that
2015-07-30 03:34:09	Wuppie	xD
2015-07-30 03:34:15	rom1504	https://github.com/andrewrk/mineflayer/blob/master/doc/api.md#botlookatpoint-force-callback
2015-07-30 03:34:22	Wuppie	oh
2015-07-30 03:34:30	Wuppie	It's for my custom server
2015-07-30 03:34:31	Wuppie	;)
2015-07-30 03:34:33	rom1504	are you building a client or a server ?
2015-07-30 03:34:39	rom1504	or a proxy ?
2015-07-30 03:34:42	Wuppie	server
2015-07-30 03:34:57	Wuppie	i got terrain, waterflow, lava flow, items, entitys working
2015-07-30 03:35:03	Wuppie	just never finished head rotation
2015-07-30 03:35:03	Wuppie	xD
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2015-07-30 03:35:28	rom1504	nice
2015-07-30 03:35:35	Wuppie	as i never really understood the calculations for that
2015-07-30 03:35:39	rom1504	well you might still be interested in that code https://github.com/andrewrk/mineflayer/blob/3d2acc2876a8fe8dff08d4d23df7459770aca93f/lib/plugins/physics.js#L324
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2015-07-30 03:35:59	rom1504	hmm
2015-07-30 03:36:07	rom1504	what calculation do you need to do ?
2015-07-30 03:36:29	rom1504	I can't quite see why the server need to do any calculation for the head rotation
2015-07-30 03:36:34	Wuppie	well maybe not
2015-07-30 03:36:47	rom1504	@Wuppie is your code online somewhere :) ?
2015-07-30 03:36:50	Wuppie	but from the client i receive: pitch & yaw
2015-07-30 03:37:07	Wuppie	which is pitch for the head
2015-07-30 03:37:14	Wuppie	& yaw for body + head in one
2015-07-30 03:37:29	Wuppie	yeah, its been online for a long time
2015-07-30 03:37:38	Wuppie	been on wiki.vg for a long time too
2015-07-30 03:37:39	Wuppie	1 sec
2015-07-30 03:38:01	Wuppie	https://github.com/SharpMC/SharpMC
2015-07-30 03:38:06	Wuppie	i just started working on it again
2015-07-30 03:38:11	Wuppie	@rom1504
2015-07-30 03:38:49	Wuppie	but, how would i get the Head Yaw, out of the yaw that is sent me from client
2015-07-30 03:39:38	rom1504	oh wow I thought I was on an other chan
2015-07-30 03:39:46	Wuppie	lol
2015-07-30 03:41:15	rom1504	I don't really know about these pitch/yaw computation like that
2015-07-30 03:41:23	rom1504	I think wiki.vg has info on them though
2015-07-30 03:41:28	Wuppie	they do
2015-07-30 03:41:31	Wuppie	but i don't get it
2015-07-30 03:41:31	Wuppie	lol
2015-07-30 03:43:05	Wuppie	i know it has something todo with http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Player_Look
2015-07-30 03:43:10	Wuppie	well, that what i think
2015-07-30 03:43:19	Wuppie	but i dont see how i know what a player is looking at
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2015-07-30 03:46:31	rom1504	are you sure what the client send you isn't the head yaw ?
2015-07-30 03:46:48	rom1504	wiki.vg says "The yaw of player (in degrees), standing at point (x0, z0) and looking towards point (x, z) one can be calculated with:"
2015-07-30 03:47:10	rom1504	so it would seem you already have the other yaw : the head yaw
2015-07-30 03:47:12	rom1504	logically
2015-07-30 03:47:40	Wuppie	hm
2015-07-30 03:47:43	Wuppie	i will see
2015-07-30 03:48:00	Wuppie	its confusing
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2015-07-30 04:24:54	rom1504	missing 16 bytes on 0x0e clientbound
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2015-07-30 04:26:56	Wuppie	rom1504 who? lol
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2015-07-30 04:39:24	rom1504	?
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2015-07-30 04:44:25	rom1504	some info on protocol changes : https://github.com/rom1504/node-minecraft-protocol/commit/9c87bd0cc788ce662d2484dd83b4c0877d10afae
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2015-07-30 04:44:52	rom1504	taken from http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Pre-release_protocol&oldid=6730 + some similar packet id changes
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2015-07-30 15:01:51	+Amaranth	Wuppie, rom1504: That code is telling you how to generate the yaw to send to a server, like a lookAt() method or something
2015-07-30 15:03:32	rom1504	I guess he was trying to figure out how to send http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Entity_Head_Look packets
2015-07-30 15:03:37	rom1504	not sure it's needed though
2015-07-30 15:08:43	+Amaranth	I thought he was trying to figure out how to position his players server side based on incoming packets
2015-07-30 15:09:27	+Amaranth	But otherwise players work the same way they always have afaik and the head yaw stuff is just faked by the client?
2015-07-30 15:09:58	+Amaranth	Other entities have a separate bit of data for head yaw and you'll need to send it
2015-07-30 15:39:18	Voltasalt	I'm getting NaN a lot in Packet 06 PlayerPositionAndLook, is this a bug in my packet reading code or an intentional part of the lcient?
2015-07-30 15:45:16	rom1504	Voltasalt: that's a bug
2015-07-30 15:45:24	rom1504	there is no NaN
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2015-07-30 16:07:39	Voltasalt	wtf http://i.imgur.com/D2AkDuV.png
2015-07-30 16:08:05	rom1504	Voltasalt: well yeah that's a bug
2015-07-30 16:08:32	rom1504	what language are you using ?
2015-07-30 16:08:51	Voltasalt	Java
2015-07-30 16:08:59	Voltasalt	Any immediately obvious issue? http://i.imgur.com/Goyk16L.png
2015-07-30 16:11:24	+ammar2	oh man that is a horrible way to read from a stream
2015-07-30 16:12:18	+ammar2	have you considered using DataInputStream or one of the similiar APIs
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2015-07-30 17:36:14	Paprikachu	why can i still not upgrade to windows 10?
2015-07-30 17:37:04	shoghicp	because we hate you <3
2015-07-30 17:37:16	jast	AFAIK the updates are staggered, so billions of people don't hit the download servers at once
2015-07-30 17:37:21	shoghicp	^
2015-07-30 17:37:42	shoghicp	I heard that only limited people will get it during the first days
2015-07-30 17:37:44	jast	I believe insiders get to be first, followed by people who 'reserved' first, etc.
2015-07-30 17:38:10	jast	I'm one of the insiders. so far I haven't gotten an upgrade prompt either, but I'm in no real hurry
2015-07-30 17:38:35	Aragas	nah, if i'll ever use it, then only on a VM
2015-07-30 17:38:59	Aragas	those reports about security doesn't sounds good
2015-07-30 17:39:07	+ammar2	jast confirmed for microsoft shill
2015-07-30 17:39:59	barneygale	Aragas, which reports are those?
2015-07-30 17:42:39	Aragas	was a bit incorrect. I mean, all those 'only online' functions, settings that are hidden under 4 menus, they all wanna mah private information. nope nope nope
2015-07-30 17:49:17	rom1504	"billions of people" I wouldn't say there are that many win7 and win8 users
2015-07-30 17:52:17	barneygale	I haven't seriously used windows in about 10 years, though I keep it around for video games
2015-07-30 17:53:02	barneygale	I like the start menu right-click menu. It feels like, just before shipping, someone in MS said "christ, there's all these important parts of windows that are impossible to find, better add a menu"
2015-07-30 17:53:15	barneygale	and it is genuinely very useful
2015-07-30 17:53:40	jast	rom1504: the magic word is hyperbole. you may not have heard of it.
2015-07-30 17:53:58	jast	yeah, I agree, I love win+x
2015-07-30 17:54:43	jast	as for the collection of data... you can turn all that off, AFAIK
2015-07-30 17:55:15	jast	do I like the defaults? nope. just like I don't like firefox and chrome having certain privacy-unfriendly things enabled by default.
2015-07-30 17:55:40	jast	a bit of unchecking checkboxes isn't going to stop me from upgrading
2015-07-30 17:56:01	Aragas	alt+F4 is the best
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2015-07-30 17:57:05	jast	I set my own shortcuts for that
2015-07-30 17:57:06	Aragas	you should try it, better than any win+x
2015-07-30 17:57:50	barneygale	I used to love customizing my workspace, but nowadays I want an operating system I can install without doing much config to make it how I like. I moved off ubuntu because that became such a pain.
2015-07-30 17:58:12	jast	I see the problems with it, but I prefer customization
2015-07-30 17:58:12	barneygale	linux mint is quite close to how I like my desktop
2015-07-30 17:58:15	+ammar2	I liked crunchbang in that regard
2015-07-30 17:58:20	+ammar2	rip sweet prince
2015-07-30 17:58:58	jast	I'm a fan of fluxbox... easy to define shortcuts and even chains of shortcuts
2015-07-30 17:59:05	jast	and on windows, autohotkey
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2015-07-30 18:00:02	Aragas	install and work? sounds like winxp
2015-07-30 18:00:27	jast	there are plenty of systems that work fairly well out of the box
2015-07-30 18:00:56	Aragas	oh and vista
2015-07-30 18:01:26	barneygale	XP got rid of my beautiful grey bevels
2015-07-30 18:01:28	barneygale	:(
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2015-07-30 18:02:50	jast	nah, they were still there. still are in 7, too. not sure about 8.
2015-07-30 18:02:58	jast	you just have to turn off visual styles
2015-07-30 18:04:37	Paprikachu	WTF
2015-07-30 18:04:41	Paprikachu	my laptop that i just installed today
2015-07-30 18:04:45	Paprikachu	can upgrade to win10
2015-07-30 18:04:47	Paprikachu	but my pc cant
2015-07-30 18:04:51	Paprikachu	wieojgowjgwjigjwoigjweroigjweoiwj
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2015-07-30 18:05:03	jast	it's a bit random, I guess...
2015-07-30 18:05:19	Aragas	they just know
2015-07-30 18:08:01	Paprikachu	best part is
2015-07-30 18:08:08	Paprikachu	my laptop didnt even have the "get windows 10" app
2015-07-30 18:08:12	Paprikachu	while my pc does
2015-07-30 18:15:49	rom1504	jast: there are billions people using some tech stuff these days though, like google search, so saying "billions" doesn't quite work
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2015-07-30 18:17:25	jast	not impressed by your logic
2015-07-30 18:24:57	HansiHE	what is the block breaking behaviour? does the client not roll back the change when there is no response from the server?
2015-07-30 18:29:21	johni0702	HansiHE, should be the responsibility of the server to undo any block changes it doesn't like, as long as the client doesn't receive anything from the server it assumes that its change was allowed
2015-07-30 18:31:42	HansiHE	ah, thanks
2015-07-30 18:31:51	HansiHE	what is the mechanism behind blocks reappearing when there is lag though?
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2015-07-30 18:32:30	johni0702	haven't seem that myself. However
2015-07-30 18:32:53	johni0702	I suppose that might be some flood prevention on the server side
2015-07-30 18:33:04	HansiHE	hmm
2015-07-30 18:34:00	HansiHE	i might have remembered wrong, it's been a while
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2015-07-30 18:35:22	johni0702	just tried it: stopped the server and destroyed blocks until I timed out. none of them reappeared
2015-07-30 18:36:58	HansiHE	right, probably just my memory failing then
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2015-07-30 18:47:42	+XorBoole	omfg
2015-07-30 18:47:56	+XorBoole	I'm going crazy trying to make a 1.8 -> 1.9 resource pack converter
2015-07-30 18:48:08	+XorBoole	I just hope there'll be an official tool
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2015-07-30 20:28:42	+Amaranth	XorBoole: ha
2015-07-30 20:28:53	+XorBoole	ha what
2015-07-30 20:28:59	+XorBoole	are you laughing at my misfortune?
2015-07-30 20:29:11	+XorBoole	(I admit it, laughing at others' misfortune is fun)
2015-07-30 20:29:17	+Amaranth	At you thinking they'll give you a converter
2015-07-30 20:29:33	+Amaranth	They claimed they would have one (or already had one) in the game though
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2015-07-30 20:33:27	+XorBoole	Amaranth they did one for 1.5 and 1.6
2015-07-30 20:33:29	 *	XorBoole shrugs
2015-07-30 20:33:46	+XorBoole	I don't think they have me /that/ much
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2015-07-30 22:05:52	+Thinkofdeath	XorBoole: its not the format that changed though right? just the things you inherited from
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2015-07-30 22:11:40	+XorBoole	Thinkofdeath the way "display" is handled change
2015-07-30 22:11:50	+XorBoole	so old models look fucky
2015-07-30 22:12:11	+XorBoole	(personally I'd like an option to use the old display values)
2015-07-30 22:12:33	+XorBoole	unfortuantely I haven't been able to figure out exactly how it changed, and the relevant developers haven't answered my pings
2015-07-30 22:14:08	Voltasalt	Is PacketEntity 0x14 ever actually sent or just its subclassesd 15, 16 and 17?
2015-07-30 22:36:26	redstonehelper	XorBoole: when in doubt, bug report
2015-07-30 22:36:42	redstonehelper	but there are a few already that I've seen, mostly "hurr durr my texture pack is weird"
2015-07-30 22:53:38	Voltasalt	Also, clients can't see each other properly, what could I be missing from my server?
2015-07-30 22:53:53	johni0702	Voltasalt, only subclassed
2015-07-30 22:54:08	Voltasalt	broadcasts SpawnPlayer to every online player when someone logs in, and sends SpawnPlayer for every online player to the player that logs in
2015-07-30 22:54:14	Voltasalt	anything else needed to spawn entities client side?
2015-07-30 22:54:57	johni0702	for players you need to send a player list item each
2015-07-30 22:55:20	Voltasalt	johni0702, before or after SpawnPlayer?
2015-07-30 22:55:42	johni0702	I believe it's before but I'm no sure
2015-07-30 22:55:44	Voltasalt	because the players show up properly in the tab list
2015-07-30 22:55:47	Voltasalt	and I'm sending before
2015-07-30 23:01:20	HansiHE	Voltasalt, if i'm not mistaken spawnplayer is sent when the client comes into view
2015-07-30 23:01:47	Voltasalt	HansiHE, I know, but this is a special type of server where all players are bunched up close enough together that it won't matter
2015-07-30 23:01:50	Voltasalt	(ie. minigame)
2015-07-30 23:01:58	Voltasalt	no infinite worlds
2015-07-30 23:03:16	HansiHE	right
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2015-07-30 23:10:07	rom1504	johni0702: http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Pre-release_protocol&diff=6733&oldid=6732 block placement is 0x09 not 0x08
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2015-07-30 23:10:33	rom1504	I guess I'll change it
2015-07-30 23:10:42	johni0702	has that changed?
2015-07-30 23:11:28	rom1504	yes, I just tried it with node-minecraft-protocol proxy
2015-07-30 23:11:36	rom1504	0x09 works, 0x08 doesn't
2015-07-30 23:12:20	johni0702	hm.. must have switched 0x09 and 0x08 then, my bad
2015-07-30 23:12:58	johni0702	do you by any chance happen to know how long the payload for 0x08 is?
2015-07-30 23:15:26	rom1504	hmm 8+8+8+4+4+1
2015-07-30 23:15:28	rom1504	33
2015-07-30 23:16:02	rom1504	well 34 with the packetId I guess
2015-07-30 23:17:13	rom1504	I don't know how you are doing these wiki upgrades but this might be useful https://gist.github.com/rom1504/f30d0cd18d4fb39d1515 correspondance between the decompiled class names and the packet ids
2015-07-30 23:17:27	rom1504	(also some fields but that's not entirely correct)
2015-07-30 23:21:58	johni0702	rom1504, should the id counter be reset for the "toServer" part? it seems to be counting through
2015-07-30 23:22:29	johni0702	what I mean is that there is no serverbound 0x01, 0x02, etc.
2015-07-30 23:23:18	rom1504	oh yeah good point
2015-07-30 23:23:21	rom1504	changing that
2015-07-30 23:35:39	rom1504	fixed
2015-07-30 23:36:19	johni0702	thx, that's indeed useful
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2015-07-31 00:24:48	rom1504	there's a serverBound 0x08 which seem to happen when right clicking with one byte field, sounds like arm_animation_answer
2015-07-31 00:27:20	rom1504	it uses the same enum than arm_animation uses
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2015-07-31 00:29:27	rom1504	yeah let's add it
2015-07-31 00:39:09	rom1504	hmm it's sent whenever you right click
2015-07-31 00:39:17	rom1504	not sure what its name should be
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2015-07-31 00:40:00	+Thinkofdeath	Interact/Use Item ?
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2015-07-31 00:47:48	rom1504	yeah I was going for use item, but the sword move differently that left clicking
2015-07-31 00:47:57	rom1504	it's like it's trying to block an attack
2015-07-31 00:48:01	rom1504	is that a thing ?
2015-07-31 00:48:13	rom1504	*than
2015-07-31 00:50:26	rom1504	hmm no it has to do with that 2 swords thing
2015-07-31 00:50:50	rom1504	use item is fine
2015-07-31 00:53:49	rom1504	done
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2015-07-31 11:01:30	johni0702	hmm when using flint'n'steel from the main hand Use Item (0x08) isn't sent, however when using it from the offhand with a pickaxe in the main hand it is sent but with 0x00 payload (main hand)
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2015-07-31 11:29:46	rom1504	how are you using it ? right clicking ?
2015-07-31 11:30:04	rom1504	when I tested it yesterday, no matter what I put in the main hand, it sent the 0x08 packet
2015-07-31 11:30:14	rom1504	(when right clicking)
2015-07-31 11:43:00	johni0702	for me it only sends it when clicking in the air (e.g. redstone placement doesn't) tough I'm still on 15w31a which might be the reason. as for the flint'n'steel, yes, right clicking, setting the block targeted on fire
2015-07-31 11:43:14	johni0702	s/tough/though/
2015-07-31 11:47:59	johni0702	nope, just updated. simply right clicking with flint'n'steel on a block doesn't send the 0x08 packet whereas clicking in midair does
2015-07-31 11:49:12	johni0702	hm, now it also sends two 0x08 packets (one for each hand) if I have items in both hands
2015-07-31 11:52:29	johni0702	but when having an ender pearl in the main hand and something else in the off-hand it only sends one 0x08 packet (with main hand payload). I should create a table otherwise I'm going to lose track
2015-07-31 12:05:13	rom1504	oh yeah I only tried clicking in the air I think
2015-07-31 12:06:13	rom1504	"use item" is fairly accurate to what that packet is about I think though
2015-07-31 12:10:12	rom1504	https://github.com/PistonDevelopers/hematite_server/blob/master/src/packet.rs#L318 https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/protocol/protocol.json I wish we could define a common format and store that file in a common repo so people wouldn't have to replicate the work again and again
2015-07-31 12:11:04	rom1504	(that only work when the protocol is loaded dynamically though, not when it is represented in classes like MCProtocolLib)
2015-07-31 12:12:17	rom1504	https://github.com/SpockBotMC/SpockBot/blob/master/spock/mcp/mcdata.py
2015-07-31 12:12:34	rom1504	I should put a list of all these protocol files people have been creating
2015-07-31 12:12:40	rom1504	*make
2015-07-31 12:14:07	barneygale	bah, packets got renumbered?
2015-07-31 12:14:52	+Dinnerbone	We told you guys that packet IDs aren't set in stone and are just arbitrary per protocol version, sorry :(
2015-07-31 12:15:07	barneygale	Dinnerbone, I do remember you saying that, I just hoped you'd forget :D
2015-07-31 12:15:48	+Dinnerbone	Not much to forget, it's been that way in the codebase for almost 2 years now! It's not a button I have to remember to push to scramble them and upset everybody.
2015-07-31 12:21:54	rom1504	https://gist.github.com/rom1504/7b4c0cc29fb03122b6a5
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2015-07-31 12:23:15	rom1504	here is that list
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2015-07-31 12:27:57	+Thinkofdeath	the hard part isn't moving the ids in code (for most projects I hope) just finding where they moved too 
2015-07-31 12:33:26	rom1504	yeah, but it's not that hard though, since the ids didn't move randomly, most of them were incremented (look at http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol )
2015-07-31 12:34:51	barneygale	my library lets you hook by id; I'll move it to names I suppose
2015-07-31 12:36:16	barneygale	rom1504, I think this sort of thing is fairly reasonable: https://github.com/hansihe/pymcprotocol/blob/master/packets/play/clientbound.py#L294-L326
2015-07-31 12:36:22	barneygale	(quite an old project)
2015-07-31 12:37:22	rom1504	barneygale: that look at lot like our protocol.json
2015-07-31 12:37:30	rom1504	( https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/blob/master/protocol/protocol.json )
2015-07-31 12:38:03	rom1504	I'm adding it to my list though
2015-07-31 12:38:23	+Thinkofdeath	I use structs instead of json but the idea is the same https://github.com/thinkofdeath/steven/blob/master/protocol/play_clientbound.go
2015-07-31 12:38:23	barneygale	hmm, that json looks super useful
2015-07-31 12:40:44	rom1504	Thinkofdeath: yeah, adding it too
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2015-07-31 12:48:04	rom1504	okay I tried to describe the formats in a few words for each of these protocol representation so it's not just a list of all the minecraft client/servers ^^
2015-07-31 12:50:02	johni0702	btw: I'm keeping an updated fork of MCProtocolLib for a private project of mine (I only use clientbound packets though, so be careful with serverbound ones) which kind of documents how the Boss Bar Packet (0x49) works. if someone wants to verify that and/or add the packet to the pre-release wiki page feel free to to so.
2015-07-31 12:51:41	johni0702	that is: https://github.com/Johni0702/MCProtocolLib/blob/snapshot/src/main/java/org/spacehq/mc/protocol/packet/ingame/server/entity/ServerUpdateBossBarPacket.java
2015-07-31 12:54:04	+Dinnerbone	Your "MagicValues" should be actually varints, not unsigned bytes. Not an issue in this particular case but futureproofing!
2015-07-31 12:54:23	+Dinnerbone	All writeEnum/readEnum done in mc are varints
2015-07-31 12:55:22	johni0702	ah, thx for the hint
2015-07-31 12:56:03	rom1504	are you sure that's 0x49 ? what happenned to "Update Entity NBT" ?
2015-07-31 12:56:24	johni0702	idk, pretty sure it's 0x49 though
2015-07-31 12:56:40	+Dinnerbone	That packet wasn't actually used anywhere, was it?
2015-07-31 12:56:45	+Dinnerbone	Entity NBT
2015-07-31 12:57:05	+Dinnerbone	I removed it because it wasn't used and none of us even knew it existed.
2015-07-31 12:58:10	+Thinkofdeath	I think at one point armorstands used it instead of metadata
2015-07-31 12:58:26	+Thinkofdeath	but after that I don't think it was used
2015-07-31 13:00:41	rom1504	ok that explains that
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2015-07-31 13:21:48	HansiHE	i use a dsl in elixir for describing packets, https://gist.github.com/hansihe/64411a86ea7655498e48
2015-07-31 13:21:57	HansiHE	i think it works quite nicely
2015-07-31 13:22:28	HansiHE	packet is a macro that generates code for both serializing and deserializing that packet
2015-07-31 13:26:21	ScruffyRules	So MC-46345 aye?
2015-07-31 13:40:50	rom1504	HansiHE: what is elixir ?
2015-07-31 13:41:08	HansiHE	rom1504, erlang with better syntax
2015-07-31 13:41:23	HansiHE	http://elixir-lang.org/
2015-07-31 13:42:00	rom1504	oh, fun
2015-07-31 13:42:23	rom1504	and you're implementing mc protocol with elixir ?
2015-07-31 13:42:36	HansiHE	i'm having a go at implementing a server
2015-07-31 13:42:45	HansiHE	the protocol part is done
2015-07-31 13:42:52	rom1504	okay, interesting
2015-07-31 13:43:02	HansiHE	im at the point now where i can log in and walk around
2015-07-31 13:44:14	HansiHE	the erlang vm is actually very well suited for something like a minecraft server
2015-07-31 13:44:46	HansiHE	it is absolutely trivial to move heavy things, like chunk generation, over to a dedicated box
2015-07-31 13:48:59	+ammar2	you mean its easy to parallelize?
2015-07-31 13:49:43	HansiHE	yeah, that's one thing
2015-07-31 13:50:34	HansiHE	it all works on message passing between processes
2015-07-31 13:51:08	HansiHE	very lightweight userspace processes
2015-07-31 13:51:38	HansiHE	so the way i'm doing it right now, every player is a process, every chunk is a process
2015-07-31 13:52:02	HansiHE	so by default it runs on all cores on the machine
2015-07-31 13:55:42	HansiHE	the same message passing mechanism works between boxes as well, so spawning a process on another box is as easy as spawning one locally
2015-07-31 13:56:07	barneygale	:o that sounds pretty great
2015-07-31 13:56:13	barneygale	hope the IPC costs don't kill you
2015-07-31 13:58:12	rom1504	https://gist.github.com/rom1504/7b4c0cc29fb03122b6a5#format : that's my opinion on what's best for a protocol file format
2015-07-31 13:58:43	rom1504	tldr : language specific format cannot be used by other languages
2015-07-31 13:59:53	rom1504	(I'm the one that transformed the javascript object nmp was using to a json file :d)
2015-07-31 14:00:00	rom1504	*node-minecraft-protocol
2015-07-31 14:01:44	HansiHE	barneygale, locally message passing is pretty cheap, so it shouldnt be that bad
2015-07-31 14:02:00	rom1504	HansiHE: if that really work, that sound like you can scale as much as you want
2015-07-31 14:02:00	HansiHE	when doing it across boxes i obviously need to think more about what im doing
2015-07-31 14:02:24	HansiHE	rom1504, well, theoretically :P
2015-07-31 14:06:30	rom1504	let me know when we can connect 10000 bots to your server to test that in practice :p
2015-07-31 14:07:13	HansiHE	:)
2015-07-31 14:07:57	HansiHE	oh, you added my dsl thing to the list?
2015-07-31 14:09:04	HansiHE	i can put the full thing up on github if you like
2015-07-31 14:14:35	Fenhl	rom1504: Hematite's implementation is not a dictionary, it's a macro
2015-07-31 14:15:19	Fenhl	we're basically using a macro to write the protocol to get all the enums and traits and stuff for encoding and decoding automatically
2015-07-31 14:16:11	Fenhl	I'm currently working on the part where it also works with local servers using shared memory instead of byte streams, like Notchian does
2015-07-31 14:17:07	rom1504	okay, I don't know rust so I was just guessing, changing that
2015-07-31 14:17:56	HansiHE	rom1504, link this instead, https://github.com/hansihe/McEx/blob/master/lib/net/packets.ex
2015-07-31 14:18:57	rom1504	done
2015-07-31 14:21:29	HansiHE	standardizing the protocol representation is a very nice idea
2015-07-31 14:23:04	+ammar2	may as well come up with a scheme to document the representation so we don't have to deal with the horrible medawiki formatting
2015-07-31 14:23:07	+ammar2	and can just auto generate it
2015-07-31 14:24:21	rom1504	yeah that would be interesting, I did some work on that using node-minecraft-protocol protocol.json http://prismarinejs.github.io/minecraft-data/#protocolTableA
2015-07-31 14:24:39	rom1504	(on the right)
2015-07-31 14:25:15	rom1504	it's definitely not as good as current wiki.vg/Protocol but that's just to show the idea
2015-07-31 14:25:40	HansiHE	it doesnt take that much to get it up to par
2015-07-31 14:26:21	HansiHE	add fields for comments and notes
2015-07-31 14:26:55	+ammar2	yeah but doing stuff like formatting in json gets iffy
2015-07-31 14:27:31	+ammar2	maybe markdown with a neat systematic structure for the fields or something
2015-07-31 14:27:41	+ammar2	or better yet
2015-07-31 14:27:47	+ammar2	have the definitions for the packets be in json
2015-07-31 14:27:57	+ammar2	but in markdwon you can just insert the definition table
2015-07-31 14:28:06	+ammar2	something along the lines of autodocs with sphinx
2015-07-31 14:29:12	rom1504	hmm what do you mean by "definition table" ?
2015-07-31 14:29:29	rom1504	that http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Definitions ?
2015-07-31 14:29:32	+ammar2	like we have on the wiki, the table with the field name and description packet id etc
2015-07-31 14:29:39	rom1504	oh
2015-07-31 14:29:47	+ammar2	the markdown will be for extra info like in the player movement packet for example
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2015-07-31 14:38:42	rom1504	ah
2015-07-31 14:39:03	rom1504	it would be possible to put markdown in a json string
2015-07-31 14:39:12	rom1504	hmm that would make the json file ugly though
2015-07-31 14:39:21	+ammar2	yeah
2015-07-31 14:39:59	+ammar2	rom1504: I'm imagining something like this https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ammaraskar/pyCraft/master/docs/authentication.rst
2015-07-31 14:40:07	+ammar2	but with more markdown instead of restructured text
2015-07-31 14:40:21	+ammar2	so places where there's like .. autofunction
2015-07-31 14:40:30	+ammar2	we'd have a thing that pulls the structure from the json 
2015-07-31 14:40:50	+ammar2	So you can do like 
2015-07-31 14:40:55	+ammar2	Information about movement packet bla bla
2015-07-31 14:41:07	+ammar2	.. autopacket player-move-and-look
2015-07-31 14:41:09	+ammar2	or something like that
2015-07-31 14:41:42	rom1504	oh, what about a {{Packet|0x06}} template that would pull info from the json ?
2015-07-31 14:41:55	+ammar2	that works too
2015-07-31 14:42:01	+ammar2	or rather that's what I mean
2015-07-31 14:42:13	+ammar2	but god damn I really hate wiki formatting
2015-07-31 14:42:15	+ammar2	it makes me cry
2015-07-31 14:42:23	+ammar2	the tables are soooo ugly
2015-07-31 14:43:36	rom1504	I think we could generate the table, putting the note in the .json might be okay
2015-07-31 14:43:56	rom1504	hmm not sure
2015-07-31 14:43:59	+ammar2	nah nah
2015-07-31 14:44:03	+ammar2	don't put documentation in the json
2015-07-31 14:44:06	+ammar2	it'll get messy very fast
2015-07-31 14:44:58	rom1504	yeah but then how do you map notes in markdown/wikitext and info from the .json ?
2015-07-31 14:45:03	HansiHE	how about a text file with embedded json describing the packets?
2015-07-31 14:45:16	HansiHE	then have a simple script to extract the embedded json
2015-07-31 14:45:40	HansiHE	that would be both human readable and machine readable
2015-07-31 14:45:56	+ammar2	rom1504: packet names
2015-07-31 14:46:22	rom1504	the notes are for each field
2015-07-31 14:46:30	+ammar2	oh small notes can go in the json
2015-07-31 14:46:32	+ammar2	that's fine
2015-07-31 14:46:41	+ammar2	I mean the proper in depth descriptions need a proper formatting language
2015-07-31 14:46:57	rom1504	oh yeah ok I agree
2015-07-31 14:47:31	rom1504	it's better to map by packet id than packet names though, the packet names are not always the same
2015-07-31 14:47:43	rom1504	(they are no official packet names)
2015-07-31 14:48:14	+ammar2	well packet ids are just a volatile number, as seen this update
2015-07-31 14:48:27	+ammar2	coming up with meaningful names might be better in the long term
2015-07-31 14:53:45	rom1504	I tried to put the idea there https://gist.github.com/rom1504/7b4c0cc29fb03122b6a5#relation-with-wikivgprotocol
2015-07-31 14:55:14	rom1504	basically that would be 2 files : 1 protocol file (in json for example), 1 description file (in markdown or wikitext). Then we could generate something like wiki.vg/Protocol from it
2015-07-31 14:55:28	+ammar2	aye
2015-07-31 14:55:30	+ammar2	sounds good
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2015-07-31 15:12:24	barneygale	Hand-written sphinx documentation with roles for substituting in packet structs would be nice
2015-07-31 15:20:08	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-1/±119] http://git.io/vOIEQ
2015-07-31 15:20:09	Not-c389	[mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath cea48fb - 15w31b
2015-07-31 15:20:45	+Thinkofdeath	names should be right now
2015-07-31 15:24:19	rom1504	barneygale: what do you mean by "roles for substituting" ?
2015-07-31 15:26:00	barneygale	rom1504, you can extend sphinx so things like :packet:`play,client,2A` will run some python code that generates more reST.
2015-07-31 15:26:24	barneygale	your python code can build a table of packet fields from json (or whatever format we're using)
2015-07-31 15:26:44	+ammar2	my one gripe with sphinx is, reST is ugly as fuck
2015-07-31 15:26:53	+ammar2	markdown looks pretty in plaintext and rendered
2015-07-31 15:27:19	barneygale	I agree markdown is better for plaintext, but reST has considerably more features
2015-07-31 15:28:06	+ammar2	like what
2015-07-31 15:29:49	barneygale	semantic markup, cross-referencing, table of contents, extensibility
2015-07-31 15:30:05	barneygale	github-flavoured markdown has some of that stuff
2015-07-31 15:30:09	barneygale	I think
2015-07-31 15:31:18	rom1504	markdown have the avantage of being fairly simple and known by basically everybody that uses github
2015-07-31 15:31:22	+ammar2	yeah I don't think mardown is meant for multiple pages which is why corss referencing/toc is missing
2015-07-31 15:31:46	+ammar2	but you can extend markdown to have whatever if you really want
2015-07-31 15:33:06	barneygale	to be honest, I don't know much wiki markup, but I can still edit the Protocol page without much trouble
2015-07-31 15:33:48	rom1504	yeah same thing for wiki markup, as long as you keep to simple things, you can edit it without knowing too much about it
2015-07-31 15:33:52	+XorBoole	Thinkofdeath apparently bossless bossbars is a thing now?
2015-07-31 15:33:58	barneygale	You also have a bunch of useful things like notes, warnings, comments, footnotes, images, indices, etc etc
2015-07-31 15:34:59	+Thinkofdeath	XorBoole: haven't looked yet, just based the name on a comment from here
2015-07-31 15:35:00	rom1504	the problem with wiki markup is you can only display it with a wiki (because the format is a pain to parse), not sure if that's a problem
2015-07-31 15:35:31	+ammar2	it wouldn't
2015-07-31 15:35:37	+Thinkofdeath	'NOTCHED_12("NOTCHED_12", 3)' wat
2015-07-31 15:35:40	+ammar2	and yeah I guess wiki is fine