2015-06-27 05:52:03 * XorBoole deletes history 2015-06-27 05:52:05 +XorBoole hahahahaha! 2015-06-27 05:55:51 -- Jailout20001 est maintenant connu sous le nom Jailout2000 2015-06-27 05:59:53 <-- Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-06-27 06:02:32 --> Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 06:04:52 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 06:04:52 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2015-06-27 06:22:02 --> Addisonep (uid86198@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-orfkhrzzcicwlwld) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 07:28:22 Not-a8a6 [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vt4ba 2015-06-27 07:28:23 Not-a8a6 [1.8-Models] drXor f7bce5a - Fix reeds in gui. 2015-06-27 07:28:46 Not-a8a6 [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+43/-0/±0] http://git.io/vt4bK 2015-06-27 07:28:48 Not-a8a6 [1.8-Models] drXor 29be8e3 - New gui stuff that isn't ready. 2015-06-27 07:36:00 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-06-27 07:39:46 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 07:39:46 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2015-06-27 08:26:52 <-- Addisonep (uid86198@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-orfkhrzzcicwlwld) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2015-06-27 09:10:26 <-- RenegadeEagle3 (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a quitté (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 2015-06-27 10:16:19 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-06-27 10:21:53 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 10:21:53 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-27 10:47:52 --> edlothiol (~edlothiol@ip1f124dd0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 11:17:07 <-- Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:29bc:af8d:3fc0:f390) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2015-06-27 11:19:06 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 11:40:52 --> SopaXorzTaker (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 12:11:44 --> Cxom (~Trinoxtio@2601:248:4200:4876:4d2b:7763:9fa3:1b4a) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 12:18:22 <-- _123DontMessWitM (~123DMWM@pool-96-237-229-30.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-27 13:54:46 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 14:01:06 gurun For MCPE, is the server "driving" the player position and rotations? 2015-06-27 14:02:19 gurun Sorry, i mean MCPC. 2015-06-27 14:06:28 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Quit: UUID00) 2015-06-27 14:11:07 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2015-06-27 14:37:32 <-- WizardCM (~WizardCM@14-201-31-151.static.tpgi.com.au) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-06-27 14:40:14 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-06-27 14:55:07 <-- benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-06-27 14:55:26 <-- benbaptist_ (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-06-27 14:56:14 --> benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 15:40:10 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 15:40:21 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-27 16:09:45 <-- Brandon15811__ (uid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-shgirjdrkbagikde) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2015-06-27 16:23:47 <-- bfoxwell (~Foxwell@c-76-110-182-132.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2015-06-27 16:35:34 --> _123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-237-229-30.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 16:41:44 --> bfoxwell (~Foxwell@c-76-110-182-132.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 16:54:10 <-- _123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-237-229-30.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a quitté (Quit: _123DMWM) 2015-06-27 16:55:32 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2015-06-27 17:21:50 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2015-06-27 17:27:52 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 17:28:04 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-27 18:06:53 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 18:06:54 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-27 18:25:02 --> konsolas (5ad50fca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.213.15.202) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 18:25:18 konsolas Hello 2015-06-27 18:25:36 konsolas I'm trying to calculate the time it would take for a player with a certain tool to break a certain block. 2015-06-27 18:25:50 konsolas According to: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Breaking#Speed 2015-06-27 18:26:42 konsolas I understand that page, but it doesn't explain how different tool materials affect the speed of breaking. Specifically, when you're trying to mine a block with a pickaxe that is too weak. 2015-06-27 18:27:04 konsolas e.g. obsidian with a wood pick, I'm not sure how those penalties are applied. 2015-06-27 18:32:02 gurun konsolas, i haven't implemented that fully yet, but the description i just read on that page seems to be very very all-covering. I think it is in there, u just need to read more. 2015-06-27 18:33:39 gurun for you specific question, it would appear as that wood pick would have a penelty already on the first calculation (the base time) 2015-06-27 18:34:25 gurun ..but a speed-up because it is still the right (best tool table) tool for the job. 2015-06-27 18:34:48 --> williamtdr (uid27909@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwumhdeucbmykyof) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 18:35:26 konsolas gurun: I just realised that, actually. The mining level only refers to whether the block will drop anything. Thanks, though. 2015-06-27 18:36:14 gurun looking forward to implementing that in full. But up intil 0.12 of MCPE it will be a lot easier than that. 2015-06-27 18:38:36 konsolas gurun: Just noticed this: if you scroll down the page, you see a list of break times. Notice how obsidian takes 22 seconds to break with a golden pickaxe, even though the gold pickaxe has a higher multiplier than diamond. 2015-06-27 18:39:13 konsolas "The first adjustment to this is based on whether the player can harvest the block with current tool. If the player cannot, then the base time is multiplied by 3.33." 2015-06-27 18:39:30 konsolas I'm confused by that line, and by the obsidian breaking times. 2015-06-27 18:39:32 gurun i guess that is the differnece with that, yes. 2015-06-27 18:39:56 gurun guess you can try calculating that on paper and compare with 1.5 or 3.33. 2015-06-27 18:40:20 konsolas Yeah... I suppose. 2015-06-27 18:41:43 konsolas It's definitely not treated as "no tool" 2015-06-27 18:42:06 gurun I vote for "knockback" being the least covered, understood and documented concept in Minecraft. 2015-06-27 18:42:31 konsolas I'm going for breaking speed as second least, in that case. 2015-06-27 18:43:01 konsolas I might take a look at NoCheatPlus' source code, I'm pretty sure they'll have to calculate break speed somewhere 2015-06-27 18:43:12 gurun konsolas, hmm i would vote that the page you sent .. is one of the best documented concept in Minecraft. 2015-06-27 18:43:46 konsolas Parts of it, pickaxe mining levels aren't explained. 2015-06-27 18:45:27 gurun you mean something like this: Increases mining speed +30% over the previous level: I=130%, II=169%, III=220%, IV=286%, V=371%. 2015-06-27 18:45:48 konsolas I mean wood, stone, iron etc. 2015-06-27 18:45:57 konsolas i.e: trying to mine obsidian with a gold pickaxe 2015-06-27 18:46:27 konsolas According to the page should be faster than a diamond pickaxe, but according to the same page (scroll down) is slower than a diamond pickaxe. 2015-06-27 18:47:45 gurun Hmnm, i can't find anywhere it says that gold is faster than diamond on that? 2015-06-27 18:48:11 konsolas Diamond multiplier is 8x, gold multiplier is 12x 2015-06-27 18:48:12 +SpaceManiac In the big table, it says for Obsidian, diamond=9.4s and gold=20.85s, which is expected (3.33x penalty for Gold being insufficient to break Obsidian) 2015-06-27 18:48:37 konsolas "whether the player can harvest the block with current tool" 2015-06-27 18:49:33 * konsolas tries to get his head round this 2015-06-27 18:50:04 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 18:50:45 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-27 18:51:18 konsolas If gold is insufficient to harvest obsidian, why is it faster than using no tool? 2015-06-27 18:51:55 konsolas "Assuming that the player can harvest the block", then the material multipliers are applied... 2015-06-27 18:51:56 +XorBoole because gold is fast 2015-06-27 18:52:31 konsolas But it's not technically able to harvest obsidian 2015-06-27 18:52:48 +SpaceManiac Hmm, the wording in that section does seem to disagree with the table 2015-06-27 18:52:59 gurun "If a proper tool is used, this multiplier is further increased by Efficiency." 2015-06-27 18:53:07 konsolas "proper tool" 2015-06-27 18:53:13 gurun yes, from the table below 2015-06-27 18:53:45 konsolas That doesn't really explain why gold is faster than iron, but slower than diamond for obsidian. 2015-06-27 18:54:27 gurun yeah, for obsidian .. that doesn't make sense 2015-06-27 18:54:34 +SpaceManiac It looks like there's two dimensions to the tool type, "can harvest" and "helps speed up" 2015-06-27 18:55:51 konsolas ummm 2015-06-27 18:56:27 konsolas according to the page, the tool must first be able to harvest the block, before "helps speed up" is applied. 2015-06-27 19:01:01 konsolas Maybe the speed multipliers are applied even when a player can't harvest the block with his pickaxe level. 2015-06-27 19:01:41 konsolas So: gold pickaxe recieves a 33.3% penalty, but still has that 12x damage increase. 2015-06-27 19:01:47 konsolas brb maths 2015-06-27 19:01:58 gurun yeh, try the math 2015-06-27 19:03:19 konsolas calc.exe crashed :| 2015-06-27 19:04:20 konsolas so damage = (12 * 0.666) 2015-06-27 19:04:27 konsolas obsidian's hardness = 50 2015-06-27 19:05:21 konsolas so time in ticks = 1500 / (12 * 0.666) 2015-06-27 19:05:45 konsolas so... no. 2015-06-27 19:06:13 konsolas Calculations say 9 seconds, actual time is 20 seconds :/ 2015-06-27 19:06:40 konsolas Wait nvm i failed 2015-06-27 19:07:37 konsolas I get: 20.8125 2015-06-27 19:07:56 konsolas Wiki: 20.85 0.o 2015-06-27 19:09:15 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 19:09:15 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2015-06-27 19:09:32 konsolas Yep, it works for all the values. Thanks everyone :D 2015-06-27 19:18:09 <-- edlothiol (~edlothiol@ip1f124dd0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-27 19:53:11 --> WizardCM (~WizardCM@14-201-31-151.static.tpgi.com.au) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 19:57:25 --> Brandon15811__ (uid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ahbxlqwmkkvzslhd) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 20:05:19 --> orthoplex64 (~orthoplex@unaffiliated/orthoplex64) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 20:11:09 --> edlothiol (~edlothiol@ip1f124dd0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 20:19:28 <-- SopaXorzTaker (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-27 20:24:29 <-- iBotPeaches (ibotpeache@pdpc/supporter/student/ibotpeaches) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-06-27 20:27:08 --> iBotPeaches (~iBotPeach@pdpc/supporter/student/ibotpeaches) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 20:55:36 --> RenegadeEagle3 (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 21:55:24 --> Addisonep (uid86198@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-niuvubtthfszhjjg) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 21:57:07 --> Jailout20001 (~Jailout20@unaffiliated/jailout2000) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 21:59:17 <-- Jailout2000 (~Jailout20@unaffiliated/jailout2000) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-06-27 22:01:40 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-27 22:02:02 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 22:27:44 -- Jailout20001 est maintenant connu sous le nom Jailout2000 2015-06-27 22:30:56 <-- zml (~zml@minions.aoeu.xyz) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-27 22:31:22 --> zml (~zml@minions.aoeu.xyz) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 23:15:20 --> _123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-237-229-30.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 23:22:09 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-27 23:24:06 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-27 23:25:24 morfin if 2 players digs same block they get speed up? 2015-06-27 23:25:39 morfin can't remember 2015-06-27 23:30:53 konsolas morfin: I'm pretty sure only one player can dig a block at a time. 2015-06-27 23:35:37 morfin hmm 2015-06-27 23:36:10 morfin that's strange why? 2015-06-27 23:38:05 +Dinnerbone Because breaking a block is a property of a player, not the block. That'd need an incredible amount of overhead for something that would very very rarely happen (the vast majority of blocks are destroyed before someone else notices you started) 2015-06-27 23:41:35 morfin but what if you're already started and i try to dig it too? 2015-06-27 23:44:15 +Dinnerbone Then we're both trying to break it, individually 2015-06-27 23:44:54 +Dinnerbone The block doesn't know "I'm 5% damaged", I know that I've broken it 3% and you know you've broken it 7%. The first one of us to get to 100% then breaks it fully 2015-06-27 23:54:27 morfin ok 2015-06-27 23:57:46 <-- WizardCM (~WizardCM@14-201-31-151.static.tpgi.com.au) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-06-28 00:00:16 <-- edlothiol (~edlothiol@ip1f124dd0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-06-28 00:06:53 <-- Addisonep (uid86198@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-niuvubtthfszhjjg) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2015-06-28 00:24:09 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-28 00:25:45 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 00:28:35 --> WizardCM (~WizardCM@14-201-31-151.static.tpgi.com.au) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 00:44:08 gurun it would be nice with a "start break block" message tho. 2015-06-28 00:44:28 gurun especially if the server could reply "denied" 2015-06-28 00:47:19 gurun I don't have MCPC but had a look at plenty of code for it. Can someone perhaps tell me what happens when you shoot an arrow at a player, and how that knockback works on the PC. 2015-06-28 00:48:17 gurun The result of my own implementation is different from MCPE, but actually more "dynamically correct". Just want to know what happens on the PC. 2015-06-28 00:50:07 <-- konsolas (5ad50fca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.213.15.202) a quitté #mcdevs 2015-06-28 01:19:30 morfin gurun what do you mean? 2015-06-28 01:19:44 morfin you allowed breaking for several players? 2015-06-28 01:20:40 gurun morfin, no can't do that since i don't know that it's under breaking, until it broke on one of the clients. 2015-06-28 01:21:05 gurun if i would get a "start break action event" i would know, and then i would make it work for both players. 2015-06-28 01:22:04 gurun but i have a gut feeling i'm gettig a break-animation that starts the sequence, but i don't know on what block. 2015-06-28 01:26:16 <-- williamtdr (uid27909@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwumhdeucbmykyof) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2015-06-28 01:31:31 angal Vanilla mcpc client send block breake start event... 2015-06-28 01:40:42 --> kcj (~kcj@unaffiliated/kcj) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 01:41:03 gurun does it send it with data to identify the block about to get broken? (I'm on MCPE so it's a bit different) 2015-06-28 01:49:45 angal Yup. 2015-06-28 01:54:52 gurun ok, then i don 2015-06-28 01:55:03 gurun don't see the problem having two players breaking the same block. 2015-06-28 02:54:45 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 03:02:22 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Quit: UUID00) 2015-06-28 03:02:50 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 03:11:06 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Quit: UUID00) 2015-06-28 04:59:26 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2015-06-28 05:13:41 <-- xnrand (xnrand@unaffiliated/xy) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2015-06-28 05:14:27 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2015-06-28 05:14:38 --> xnrand (xnrand@unaffiliated/xy) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 05:40:52 --> redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 05:42:55 <-- redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-06-28 05:42:55 -- redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper 2015-06-28 07:12:17 <-- Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-06-28 07:16:49 --> Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 07:41:50 <-- orthoplex64 (~orthoplex@unaffiliated/orthoplex64) a quitté (Quit: Leaving) 2015-06-28 08:53:20 <-- RenegadeEagle3 (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a quitté (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 2015-06-28 10:03:37 morfin i think synchronization overhead will be very big 2015-06-28 10:05:44 morfin but if use atomic counter i think it can be much faster 2015-06-28 10:06:11 -- Techcable_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Techcable|ded 2015-06-28 10:06:24 -- Techcable|ded est maintenant connu sous le nom Techcabe 2015-06-28 10:08:42 -- Techcabe est maintenant connu sous le nom Techcabe|ded 2015-06-28 10:25:23 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 11:00:18 --> edlothiol (~edlothiol@ip1f129ebb.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 11:44:41 <-- bfoxwell (~Foxwell@c-76-110-182-132.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2015-06-28 12:22:57 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2015-06-28 12:51:11 <-- kcj (~kcj@unaffiliated/kcj) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-28 13:25:14 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 13:25:22 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-28 13:31:57 <-- edlothiol (~edlothiol@ip1f129ebb.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-28 14:02:33 --> edlothiol (~edlothiol@ip1f124dd0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 14:19:35 gurun What happens to MCPC if i send it a block ID it doesn't have? Will it crash or do something really bad? 2015-06-28 14:43:09 --> SopaXT (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 14:45:05 +Thinkofdeath It turns to air 2015-06-28 16:19:51 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Write error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-28 16:36:40 +XorBoole gurun Thinkofdeath actually, last I checked it renders the missing texture block 2015-06-28 16:37:15 gurun ok, but it doesn't crash at least? 2015-06-28 16:46:57 +XorBoole gurun it used to... 2015-06-28 16:47:12 +XorBoole I don't know if it does now. I suggest testing with a quick bukkit plugin or the like 2015-06-28 16:47:25 +Thinkofdeath XorBoole: I remember it doing that in the snapshots but by release it changed 2015-06-28 16:48:29 gurun The problem i have is that i don't have MCPC. And my MCPE server produce Anvil on save. I just want to know what happens if i load a world with blocks from MCPE that doesn't exist in MCPC (like the new grass path) 2015-06-28 16:49:56 +XorBoole on an unrelated note I am extremely frustrated there is no way to make lwjgl run on native resolution on my mac 2015-06-28 16:52:27 +XorBoole dammit! 2015-06-28 16:52:28 +XorBoole http://wiki.lwjgl.org/wiki/Using_High_DPI_Mode 2015-06-28 16:53:01 +XorBoole man, really tempted to prod the mojang people, since this might actually semi-trivially fix my bug ^ 2015-06-28 16:53:17 +XorBoole just need to insert a certain method call everywhere and add a vm param 2015-06-28 16:53:44 +XorBoole it works fine except... http://puu.sh/iFNp3/3894aba2e8.png 2015-06-28 16:54:23 * XorBoole jabs Thinkofdeath 2015-06-28 16:54:31 +XorBoole write a patchcraft path fuck this 2015-06-28 16:54:38 +XorBoole "path fuck this" 2015-06-28 16:54:46 +XorBoole path for this* 2015-06-28 16:54:51 +XorBoole patch** 2015-06-28 16:54:56 * XorBoole throws his laptop in the pool 2015-06-28 16:54:58 gurun lol .. frustration taken out on the keyboard! 2015-06-28 16:55:25 ScruffyRules XorBoole, Amazinf 2015-06-28 16:58:41 +Thinkofdeath XorBoole: too lazy 2015-06-28 17:00:06 +XorBoole Thinkofdeath so shall I ping mr. g? 2015-06-28 17:02:20 +XorBoole I think the amazing part is that mouse still behaves correctly with hdpi on 2015-06-28 17:13:30 +XorBoole or even funnier: the screen size is correct if I force it to my native resolution, but then the mouse breaks 2015-06-28 17:13:34 +XorBoole genius 2015-06-28 17:15:23 +ammar2 XorBoole: so much witchcraft in high dpi 2015-06-28 17:16:18 +XorBoole I want my high dpi! it looks fucking majestic! 2015-06-28 17:16:28 +XorBoole my item models don't look like shit! 2015-06-28 17:16:32 +XorBoole I neeeeed it 2015-06-28 17:20:08 morfin i was just interested what if block could know how broken it is 2015-06-28 17:20:27 --> Welite (591d6419@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.29.100.25) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 17:21:46 Welite Hello could someone please help me how to construct 0x10 ? I have really no idea what the Slot data are ? http://wiki.vg/Slot_Data 2015-06-28 17:21:51 morfin and this number is atomic which can be modified without locking(except bus lock) 2015-06-28 17:22:27 +XorBoole Welite Slot is an itemstack, as serialized 2015-06-28 17:22:41 +XorBoole there should a description of how to do that on the wiki 2015-06-28 17:22:59 Welite Yea I know what it is but how to send it in the packet ? 2015-06-28 17:23:19 +XorBoole Welite http://wiki.vg/Slot 2015-06-28 17:23:22 +SpaceManiac as bytes, as described on that page 2015-06-28 17:23:23 +XorBoole it's just NBT I think 2015-06-28 17:24:39 Welite Well but how do I make bytes from NBT ? 2015-06-28 17:24:55 +XorBoole NBT is a binary format 2015-06-28 17:25:23 Welite And is there any editor for it ? 2015-06-28 17:25:46 +XorBoole there are several libraries for writing/reading NBT 2015-06-28 17:26:01 +XorBoole http://wiki.vg/NBT#Current_Uses 2015-06-28 17:26:12 +XorBoole hmm, did my wiki account get deleted? 2015-06-28 17:26:23 * XorBoole shruggles 2015-06-28 17:27:08 Welite Yea I have seen them but how to create that NBT file ? 2015-06-28 17:27:58 +ammar2 it'll vary by the actual library you're using 2015-06-28 17:28:47 +XorBoole also I'm pretty sure I added my NBT lib to the list at some point 2015-06-28 17:28:49 * XorBoole shrugs again 2015-06-28 17:29:25 +ammar2 XorBoole: no scala, ever 2015-06-28 17:29:29 +ammar2 anywhere 2015-06-28 17:29:32 +ammar2 forever 2015-06-28 17:29:35 Not-48e3 [wiki.vg] Edit by Xor to NBT -> http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=NBT&diff=6666&oldid=6664 2015-06-28 17:29:42 +XorBoole tooo lATE 2015-06-28 17:32:06 Welite Well as I am coding it in Java I dont think so I can use your lib 2015-06-28 17:32:47 Welite But I have found one for Java: https://github.com/Evil-Co/NBT-Lib 2015-06-28 17:32:57 Welite Is it up to date ? 2015-06-28 17:33:09 ScruffyRules XorBoole, 6666 2015-06-28 17:33:39 +SpaceManiac Welite: I can't vouch for its quality, but it is up to date 2015-06-28 17:33:53 ScruffyRules Ohai SpaceManiac 2015-06-28 17:34:06 +SpaceManiac Hallo 2015-06-28 17:34:25 morfin wow i did not know NBT is not just for map 2015-06-28 17:34:42 Welite SpaceManiac So if I understand it well, with such a lib I can create file that I will later send in 0x10 ? 2015-06-28 17:35:00 +SpaceManiac That's the idea 2015-06-28 17:35:02 ScruffyRules How's Glowstone chewing along? 2015-06-28 17:35:25 Welite Thanks I am gonna try it 2015-06-28 17:35:28 +SpaceManiac Though I should say that if you don't *need* this functionality yet, the Slot Data page describes a way to say "this item has no NBT" that you could use instead. 2015-06-28 17:35:40 morfin is reading/writing NBT really that hard? 2015-06-28 17:36:21 +XorBoole Welite I use it, I can confirm it doesn't such 2015-06-28 17:36:33 +XorBoole however, LordAkkarin wrote it and he's a noob 2015-06-28 17:36:37 * XorBoole runs 2015-06-28 17:36:44 Welite :D 2015-06-28 17:36:45 +ammar2 SpaceManiac: up to date? the format hasn't changed in like 4 years 2015-06-28 17:37:01 +XorBoole it needs a complex number tag 2015-06-28 17:37:03 * XorBoole hides 2015-06-28 17:37:15 --> bfoxwell (~Foxwell@c-76-110-182-132.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 17:38:07 +SpaceManiac ammar2: well, fair, IntArray was added in early 2012, but I have found code lying around missing support for it... 2015-06-28 17:38:32 +SpaceManiac ScruffyRules: I was busy with school for several months and now can't decide if it's worth continuing work 2015-06-28 17:38:37 <-- ScruffyRules (Scruff@i.am.scruffyrules.com) a quitté #mcdevs ("Leaving") 2015-06-28 17:38:55 +XorBoole why exactly is int array a thing, anyways? byte array should be good enough for all purposes 2015-06-28 17:39:05 +XorBoole did notch run out of space or something 2015-06-28 17:40:30 morfin what do you mean? 2015-06-28 17:41:28 +SpaceManiac It's differently typed; a decoder knows the data will be used as ints and can format its structures as such 2015-06-28 17:42:07 +XorBoole meh, seems a tad unecessary 2015-06-28 17:42:11 +XorBoole but that's just me 2015-06-28 17:47:05 Welite huh I am still totally lost even with the lib 2015-06-28 17:47:29 Welite What format does the item have ? 2015-06-28 17:48:22 Welite I have opened player.dat with NBT Explorer and there is: count, damage, id, slot 2015-06-28 17:48:38 Welite However there http://wiki.vg/Slot_Data is some enchant list or something 2015-06-28 17:49:19 +SpaceManiac The NBT in Slot Data is only the NBT in the 'tag' element of the item, and can be omitted if that's not present 2015-06-28 17:59:28 --> ScruffyRules (Scruff@i.am.scruffyrules.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 17:59:47 <-- SopaXT (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-28 18:00:08 ScruffyRules Sorry whoever pinged me 2015-06-28 18:00:15 ScruffyRules Computer kinda freaked out 2015-06-28 18:02:29 ScruffyRules SpaceManiac, Hmm tough choice. 2015-06-28 18:04:44 +XorBoole which packet sends an item entity's itemstack? I can't remember for the life of me 2015-06-28 18:04:53 Welite SpaceManiac so I used the lib for Java and I got this: http://hastebin.com/luropifago.avrasm, but how should I send that "tag" ? 2015-06-28 18:07:28 +SpaceManiac XorBoole: entity metadata 2015-06-28 18:07:33 --> SopaXT (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 18:08:50 +SpaceManiac Welite: I think you're still misunderstanding; maybe this will help? https://github.com/GlowstoneMC/Glowstone/blob/master/src/main/java/net/glowstone/net/GlowBufUtils.java#L184 2015-06-28 18:09:25 +SpaceManiac Basically, you write the item's type, amount, and durability value; then either write a 0, or its extra NBT data 2015-06-28 18:12:55 Welite SpaceManiac, thanks a lot, example that what I needed :) 2015-06-28 18:14:40 <-- SopaXT (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-28 18:16:56 -- Techcabe|ded est maintenant connu sous le nom Techcable 2015-06-28 18:25:29 --> ondra852 (5e4aca11@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.74.202.17) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 18:30:35 morfin hmmmmm 2015-06-28 18:31:46 morfin protocol of Minecraft is so assymetric 2015-06-28 18:32:41 morfin client sends not so much packets to server but server can send way more message types 2015-06-28 18:39:07 +ammar2 well that's how it usually works in game 2015-06-28 18:39:12 +ammar2 the client is dumb as possible 2015-06-28 18:39:16 +ammar2 games* 2015-06-28 18:40:10 morfin yes i know "never trust client" 2015-06-28 18:40:54 morfin i was trying to investigate what i will need access to handle incoming from clients packets 2015-06-28 18:47:02 <-- ondra852 (5e4aca11@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.74.202.17) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2015-06-28 18:47:26 morfin because i do not want to capture too many object references in lambdas 2015-06-28 18:55:45 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-28 18:56:07 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 18:58:30 morfin i was interested why Minecraft still can't apply mods when entering? 2015-06-28 18:59:13 morfin like you join server X and if you don't have resources etc. you download them and then join 2015-06-28 19:00:24 +XorBoole morfin because notch is an idiot 2015-06-28 19:00:44 +XorBoole and our beloved mojang overlords are working their asses off making that feasible 2015-06-28 19:01:10 dx yeah, fuck notch, he's still ruining everything even though he stopped working on minecraft 10 years ago 2015-06-28 19:01:27 morfin 10 years? 2015-06-28 19:01:41 dav1d maybe 9 2015-06-28 19:01:44 Welite actually 2 years :) 2015-06-28 19:01:55 dx the 1990s were 50 years ago, now you all feel old 2015-06-28 19:01:56 morfin yep 2015-06-28 19:02:40 +XorBoole dx ostensibly yes, he's fucking us from beyond the proverbial grave 2015-06-28 19:02:56 +XorBoole so much notchcode 2015-06-28 19:02:57 Welite SpaceManiac can you please look at that ? http://hastebin.com/eqojuxuhag.coffee Am I enclosing proper way ? 2015-06-28 19:03:48 morfin hmmmmm 2015-06-28 19:04:07 morfin so 2015-06-28 19:04:53 +SpaceManiac Welite: at a glance, it looks good to me 2015-06-28 19:05:11 morfin most of work is done in background by server, it sends changes to clients, clients send to server very limited set of packets to do something(like closing window) 2015-06-28 19:06:26 Welite SpaceManiac: So now I write the returned ByteArray in the packet in the "SlotData" place ? 2015-06-28 19:06:54 morfin but seems like protocol is not very extensible 2015-06-28 19:06:58 +SpaceManiac yyyyes 2015-06-28 19:07:51 +SpaceManiac morfin: there's a 'Plugin Message' packet once you make it to the play stage 2015-06-28 19:08:15 morfin yes i know) 2015-06-28 19:08:29 morfin but without custom client you're so limited 2015-06-28 19:32:34 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 19:32:34 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2015-06-28 19:33:11 gurun dx, that was totally uncalled for. That makes like the 70's .. eons ago :( 2015-06-28 19:43:00 Not-48e3 [wiki.vg] Edit by Cuitpoisson to Protocol -> http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Protocol&diff=6667&oldid=6649 2015-06-28 19:47:20 --> orthoplex64 (~orthoplex@unaffiliated/orthoplex64) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 19:49:05 +ammar2 mm good man 2015-06-28 19:49:09 +ammar2 top edi 2015-06-28 19:49:11 +ammar2 edit* 2015-06-28 19:49:24 +ammar2 that was actually fairly confusing before 2015-06-28 20:18:12 morfin i want to start over, where should i start? 2015-06-28 20:20:00 morfin what should i know to write server properly? 2015-06-28 20:26:12 <-- edlothiol (~edlothiol@ip1f124dd0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-28 20:27:52 angal Are you shure you want to start new project, instead of joining existing one? There are already lots of mcpc servers aimed for different goals for your choise. 2015-06-28 20:28:14 morfin yes i know 2015-06-28 20:28:40 morfin but my primary target is learning 2015-06-28 20:29:02 morfin and i am using ready libraries(not reinventing wheels like some developers do) 2015-06-28 20:29:39 morfin ok not so much of them(mainly ASIO and maybe Boost.System) 2015-06-28 20:58:14 <-- TobiX (tobias@zoidberg.org) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-06-28 20:58:45 --> TobiX (tobias@zoidberg.org) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 21:04:32 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 21:04:38 +XorBoole Grum, I assume you're aware of the bug with high-dpi displays, yes? apparently the fix is literally setting a java prop and adding a multiplier lwjgl supplies 2015-06-28 21:04:53 +XorBoole mostly in the main runnable, too 2015-06-28 21:05:16 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-28 21:10:04 <-- Welite (591d6419@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.29.100.25) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2015-06-28 21:16:52 +Grum XorBoole: what? 2015-06-28 21:17:05 +Grum Let me guess, windows attempting to do hi-dpi? 2015-06-28 21:17:45 +ammar2 Grum: this is what he linked before http://puu.sh/iFNp3/3894aba2e8.png 2015-06-28 21:18:03 +Grum not sure which OS that is on 2015-06-28 21:18:06 +Grum looks like OSX but isnt 2015-06-28 21:18:09 +Grum because it works fine there 2015-06-28 21:18:28 +ammar2 well I think he uses osx 2015-06-28 21:18:37 +Grum works on osx here 2015-06-28 21:25:28 +XorBoole Grum osx 2015-06-28 21:25:35 +XorBoole runs 1/4 of my native resolution 2015-06-28 21:27:02 +Grum not here 2015-06-28 21:27:08 +XorBoole 5real 2015-06-28 21:27:12 +XorBoole what am I doing wrong then? 2015-06-28 21:27:16 +Grum no idea 2015-06-28 21:27:23 +XorBoole is your machine retina? 2015-06-28 21:27:25 +Grum got a retina screen, weirdly scales resolution 2015-06-28 21:27:26 +Grum yes 2015-06-28 21:27:47 +Grum 2014 macbook 2015-06-28 21:27:53 +Grum running 10.10 2015-06-28 21:27:53 +XorBoole it runs fine, but each rendered pixel is 4 pixels on my screen 2015-06-28 21:28:09 +XorBoole I'm running maveriks, but that shouldn't change anything, since it's an lwjgl issue 2015-06-28 21:28:27 +Grum you are saying something about 4 pixels 2015-06-28 21:28:30 +Grum explain yourself better :) 2015-06-28 21:29:38 +XorBoole a pixel rendered by lwjgl = a 2x2 square of pixels on my screen. aka the width/height are half the true resolution 2015-06-28 21:29:45 +Grum in fullscreen? 2015-06-28 21:30:06 +XorBoole if I set the highdpi flag on lwjgl, the game takes up the lower corner of my screen 2015-06-28 21:30:22 +XorBoole yes, windowed fullscreen. true fullscreen has the same issue though 2015-06-28 21:30:23 +Grum in fullscreen? 2015-06-28 21:30:35 +Grum euuh? 2015-06-28 21:30:43 +Grum windowed fullscreen is just windowed hehe 2015-06-28 21:30:56 +XorBoole semantics! 2015-06-28 21:31:02 +Grum so what if you drag the screen to ~75% of the size? 2015-06-28 21:31:23 +XorBoole anyways, if I force highdpi via commandline args, and force the resolution to my true resolution it looks much better 2015-06-28 21:31:26 +XorBoole but the mouse breaks 2015-06-28 21:31:53 +XorBoole also no, resizing doesn't help at all 2015-06-28 21:32:21 +Grum you do realize that stuff like the main menu is always scaled to some pixel multiple 2015-06-28 21:32:49 +XorBoole I'm not refering to the title screen, I mean the entire game 2015-06-28 21:33:22 +Grum so in 1.8.7, what does the debug screen say for the size of your display? 2015-06-28 21:33:31 +Grum mine is correct at 1872x1155 2015-06-28 21:33:38 +XorBoole Grum http://puu.sh/iG3D6/f36e0cca80.png 2015-06-28 21:33:47 +XorBoole err, let me switch to 1.8.7 2015-06-28 21:34:08 +Grum because my retina scaling makes 'around' 1080p 2015-06-28 21:34:27 +Grum (there is no way to do higher within the OS itself, you are going to have to fuck around with another tool to get 1:1 pixel scaling) 2015-06-28 21:34:51 +XorBoole mine is wrong http://puu.sh/iG3In/491fc28bca.png 2015-06-28 21:35:08 +Grum the complete screen? 2015-06-28 21:35:08 +XorBoole my screen is 2880 across 2015-06-28 21:35:21 +XorBoole yes 2015-06-28 21:35:28 +Grum Show the complete screen in a screenshot please :P 2015-06-28 21:35:39 +Grum Also, you cannot run OSx itself at 1:1 2015-06-28 21:35:49 +Grum not unless you fucked around with some external tools 2015-06-28 21:35:58 +XorBoole what? of course not 2015-06-28 21:36:06 +XorBoole my screen is 10:16 2015-06-28 21:36:18 redstonehelper pixel scaling 2015-06-28 21:36:21 redstonehelper I think 2015-06-28 21:36:31 +Grum almost 100% sure you have your 'Display' settigns set for "Default" scaling 2015-06-28 21:36:40 +XorBoole Grum http://puu.sh/iG3Qx/f97b7c955b.png 2015-06-28 21:36:44 +Grum which means you basically have a 1440x900 display according to OSX 2015-06-28 21:37:03 +Grum looking at the size of your toolbars, what is exactly what is happening 2015-06-28 21:37:10 +Grum *that 2015-06-28 21:37:44 +Grum System Preferences -> Displays -> Display -> Scaled (and that is at "Default") 2015-06-28 21:38:18 +Grum basically this is how OSX works, you select the scaling there and it will pretend the screen is that resolution 2015-06-28 21:39:03 +Grum nothing wrong with the game, nothing wrong with lwjgl, you just didn't set the dpi of the osx right :) 2015-06-28 21:39:07 +Grum -x 2015-06-28 21:39:16 +XorBoole erm, no 2015-06-28 21:39:29 +XorBoole that's not the case, because other applications report the correct size 2015-06-28 21:39:42 +XorBoole i.e. steven, Thinkofdeath's client, which had the same issue until I debugged it 2015-06-28 21:39:58 +Grum sigh, screenshot your System Preferences -> Displays screen 2015-06-28 21:40:24 +XorBoole sure, but I don't see how that's relevant. http://puu.sh/iG46K/4c89377a78.png 2015-06-28 21:40:36 +Grum as i said, "Default" 2015-06-28 21:40:42 +XorBoole I switched it to the bigger one 2015-06-28 21:40:44 +Grum now drag it to the proper setting, "More space" 2015-06-28 21:40:50 +XorBoole and rescaled minecraft. 2015-06-28 21:40:54 +Grum and you will see the resolution of your window allows you to get larger 2015-06-28 21:41:00 +Grum and yes, as i just said, it will not be 1:1 2015-06-28 21:41:02 +XorBoole it doesn't report the true resolution (still) 2015-06-28 21:41:10 +Grum yes because 'More Space' is not 1:1 2015-06-28 21:41:20 +XorBoole could prob fix it via defaults 2015-06-28 21:41:25 +Grum probably 2015-06-28 21:41:31 +Grum and then your system is totally unworkable 2015-06-28 21:41:38 +XorBoole yep 2015-06-28 21:41:40 +XorBoole because apple 2015-06-28 21:41:42 +Grum because everything is too small 2015-06-28 21:41:47 +Grum no, this is how you handle DPI properly 2015-06-28 21:42:23 +XorBoole on a mac? then why do some of my other games recieve the correct scaling? 2015-06-28 21:42:33 +Grum because they play fullscreen-fullscreen 2015-06-28 21:42:46 +XorBoole I play my games windowed 2015-06-28 21:42:51 +XorBoole they still recieve the correct size 2015-06-28 21:42:56 +Grum those won't do it correct unless they explicitly compensate for it 2015-06-28 21:43:17 +XorBoole which is why Display.getPixelScaleFactor() 2015-06-28 21:43:19 +XorBoole exists* 2015-06-28 21:43:19 +Grum which would be a osx+retina specific hack 2015-06-28 21:43:48 +XorBoole well, not on lwjgl as far as I'm concerned 2015-06-28 21:44:00 +XorBoole the method is platform agnostic but as of now only implemented for osx 2015-06-28 21:44:25 +Grum it is not going to be used 2015-06-28 21:44:49 +XorBoole shame, I'll just have to patch it myself =/ 2015-06-28 21:44:52 +Grum yup :) 2015-06-28 21:45:05 +XorBoole btw, your snowmen look great on jd-gui 2015-06-28 21:45:42 +Grum easier to actually patch a single piece of code in Minecraft.class and run the game *actually* fullscreen 2015-06-28 21:45:44 redstonehelper XorBoole: is jd-gui reliable enough? last time I used it it shit itself 2015-06-28 21:45:59 +XorBoole redstonehelper no, I only use it because its gui doesn't suck 2015-06-28 21:46:01 +Grum because in 'fullscreen' it will pick a half-resolution when it sees retina 2015-06-28 21:46:03 +XorBoole fernflower is what you want 2015-06-28 21:46:25 +XorBoole fullscreen is such a pain though. but that's just me. 2015-06-28 21:46:58 +XorBoole yeah I remember seeing some /2's in there. I'll tinker with it I suppose 2015-06-28 21:47:13 +Grum there is a constant in the class that has the 'retina modes' 2015-06-28 21:47:28 +XorBoole is that M in 1.8.2? 2015-06-28 21:47:29 +Grum find 2880 and change it to any other number and it should do 1:1 in fullscreen-fullscreen 2015-06-28 21:47:38 +Grum and you are going to cry because of the performance 2015-06-28 21:47:45 +Grum because the macs are shit performance wise 2015-06-28 21:47:53 +XorBoole not really, in my experience 2015-06-28 21:48:00 +Grum i tested it, you didn't 2015-06-28 21:48:05 +XorBoole skyrim runs great on my mbp (under wine, amazingly) 2015-06-28 21:48:11 +XorBoole bt that's just me 2015-06-28 21:48:43 +XorBoole I will test it out though 2015-06-28 21:49:45 +Grum in all honesty, it makes more sense to run at what ever you told the OSX waht the resolution was than pretending it is the actually screen-pixel-size 2015-06-28 21:49:59 +Grum because you just basically said, dear os, i am blind to anything smaller, please make everything FUCKIGN HUGE on my screen 2015-06-28 21:50:13 +XorBoole s/you/apple 2015-06-28 21:50:23 +Grum so why would you want your gpu to waste all the time on rendering 4x the amount of pixels which you already told the OS you cannot see 2015-06-28 21:50:25 +XorBoole this computer is new, I'm not where near finished deapplisinzg it 2015-06-28 21:50:45 +Grum well you are still running the OS at 1440x900 resolution 2015-06-28 21:50:53 +Grum that is the first slider that went all the way to the right here :p 2015-06-28 21:51:14 +XorBoole yep but it fucks up everything, because yes 2015-06-28 21:51:21 +Grum no it fucks up nothing 2015-06-28 21:51:37 +Grum just putting it to 'More Space' fucks up absolutely nothing 2015-06-28 21:51:57 +XorBoole well, it makes everything scale down, which is annoying 2015-06-28 21:52:06 +Grum no it scales it to a normal resolution lol 2015-06-28 21:52:12 +Grum you are watching it in grandma-style now :P 2015-06-28 21:52:35 +XorBoole yeah, because I apparently don't have your eyesight =p 2015-06-28 21:52:47 +Grum I have a normal 20/20 2015-06-28 21:52:54 +XorBoole it's too small for my taste. I'll just write a patch and be happy with it 2015-06-28 21:53:02 +Grum but this also means you shouldn't complain about the pixels you are missing in minecraft :p 2015-06-28 21:53:10 +Grum because you are not complaining about that in the OS ;) 2015-06-28 21:53:23 +XorBoole I'm complaining about jagged edges 2015-06-28 21:53:31 +XorBoole but I know how to fix it now, which is great 2015-06-28 21:53:33 +Grum lol its a pixelized game :p 2015-06-28 21:53:40 +Grum search for 2880 and change it 2015-06-28 21:53:50 +Grum and run actual fullscreen that should fix it 2015-06-28 21:53:56 +XorBoole Grum already know where it is. avf.M in 1.8.2 2015-06-28 21:54:03 +XorBoole trivial to patch 2015-06-28 21:54:09 +Grum should be in a list 2015-06-28 21:54:27 +XorBoole yeah, I'll just make it Collections.emptyList() or some shit 2015-06-28 21:55:22 +Grum It might break still unsure 2015-06-28 21:55:36 +Grum the issue was that lwjgl listed the scaled resolution as 'native available resolution' 2015-06-28 21:55:43 +XorBoole wait, I just realized proguard makes private fields capital and public fields lowercase. 2015-06-28 21:55:45 +Grum but when you tried to use it, it hard-crashed 2015-06-28 21:56:00 +Grum no that is just how it is sorted and thus stuff gets different names 2015-06-28 21:56:12 +XorBoole wait, never mind 2015-06-28 21:56:15 +Grum public fields get handled first because they can be seen when extending 2015-06-28 21:56:20 +XorBoole thought I'd noticed something magical 2015-06-28 21:56:36 +XorBoole like I care, I rarely have to make new mappings 2015-06-28 21:56:48 +Grum you might still end up crashing :P 2015-06-28 21:57:04 +Grum though i do think lwjgl fixed the list of displaymodes after i complained 2015-06-28 21:57:52 +XorBoole meh, I might still try the fix that the lwjgl wiki suggests 2015-06-28 21:58:07 +Grum i would *really* not bother 2015-06-28 21:58:10 +XorBoole I'll let you know if java explodes 2015-06-28 21:58:20 +XorBoole Grum I know you won't change it, I'm just curious 2015-06-28 21:58:20 +Grum all calculations for input etc are done with the resolution the window reports 2015-06-28 21:58:35 +Grum which is based of the resolution the desktop reports 2015-06-28 21:58:54 +Grum which is the scaled one in your display settings 2015-06-28 21:59:31 +XorBoole yeah this is just Thinkofdeath's resolution problems all over again. the symptoms are pretty much the same if I force highdpi, at any rate 2015-06-28 21:59:36 +XorBoole I don't do graphics. *shrugs* 2015-06-28 22:08:24 +Thinkofdeath the issue with steven was that (with glfw) the windows size != the framebuffer size 2015-06-28 22:08:39 +Thinkofdeath And I used the window size everywhere not knowing they wouldn't always match 2015-06-28 22:18:26 +XorBoole meh, I'm going to just roll my own version of patchcraft 2015-06-28 22:18:36 +XorBoole except my intellij kotlin plugin broke... meh 2015-06-28 22:20:15 +Thinkofdeath yeah don't use that :P its old and most likely broken in some way 2015-06-28 22:20:34 +XorBoole which is why I forked it 2015-06-28 22:20:38 +XorBoole nub 2015-06-28 23:19:16 --> KexyBiscuit (~androirc@104.41.179.22) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 23:23:26 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-28 23:23:53 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-28 23:25:15 +XorBoole Grum the trick you suggested failed 2015-06-28 23:27:47 +XorBoole wrote a patch using thinky's patcher, it clears the list of DisplayModes. going into fullscreen doesn't fix the resolution =< 2015-06-28 23:29:37 +XorBoole decompiling the source reveals that I do indeed clear it 2015-06-29 00:33:07 --> benbaptist_ (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 00:42:04 <-- KexyBiscuit (~androirc@104.41.179.22) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-29 01:05:36 <-- mfj (~kvirc@202.55.151.66) a quitté (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2015-06-29 01:18:08 --> mfj (~kvirc@202.55.151.66) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 02:06:24 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2015-06-29 02:34:32 --> KexyBiscuit (~androirc@104.41.179.22) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 02:37:46 <-- ensirius (~ensirius@ensemplix.ru) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-29 02:48:57 <-- KexyBiscuit (~androirc@104.41.179.22) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-29 03:11:28 <-- hkaga (~hkaga@2602:ffda:bbb::27bf:741e) a quitté (Quit: bye~) 2015-06-29 03:11:44 --> hkaga (~hkaga@2602:ffda:bbb::27bf:741e) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 03:33:20 --> RenegadeEagle3 (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 03:34:10 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2015-06-29 04:41:52 <-- RenegadeEagle3 (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a quitté (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 2015-06-29 04:53:18 Not-48e3 [wiki.vg] Edit by Fenhl to NBT -> http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=NBT&diff=6668&oldid=6666 2015-06-29 05:06:58 --> KexyBiscuit (~KexyBiscu@104.41.179.22) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 05:18:40 Fenhl what did I just read 2015-06-29 05:18:57 Fenhl > i am blind to anything smaller 2015-06-29 05:19:09 Fenhl that is the exact opposite of what “Retina Display” means 2015-06-29 05:26:47 Not-48e3 [wiki.vg] Edit by Fenhl to Protocol -> http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Protocol&diff=6669&oldid=6667 2015-06-29 05:40:56 --> redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 05:43:14 <-- redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-29 05:43:14 -- redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper 2015-06-29 05:49:17 <-- KexyBiscuit (~KexyBiscu@104.41.179.22) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-29 06:19:18 --> KexyBiscuit (~KexyBiscu@104.41.179.22) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 06:34:34 <-- KexyBiscuit (~KexyBiscu@104.41.179.22) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-29 06:35:29 --> KexyBiscuit (~KexyBiscu@104.41.179.22) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 06:38:17 <-- KexyBiscuit (~KexyBiscu@104.41.179.22) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-29 07:29:05 <-- Techcable (~Techcable@181.ip-167-114-113.net) a quitté (Quit: ZNC - 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So in terms of properties, according to http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/ there is nothing like "solid" for a block, only opacity. WHen reading about glass, it is indeed transperent, but obviously you can still build on it. But it also says that most blocks that depend on a block can't be built ontop of glass. 2015-06-29 11:37:49 gurun So, question is; is glass a "solid" block with a special case for the transparency, or is it a "non" solid block, with some exceptions for building blocks on it? 2015-06-29 11:40:15 l4mRh4X0r gurun: you can build blocks on non-solid blocks as well 2015-06-29 11:40:54 l4mRh4X0r Think about vines, torches, slabs. You can place blocks on top of all those 2015-06-29 11:41:17 l4mRh4X0r The only thing you need to place a block is a block face 2015-06-29 11:41:30 gurun hmm, yes that was clumsy expressing it like that 2015-06-29 11:42:03 l4mRh4X0r And transparent/non-solid is the same property, yes 2015-06-29 11:42:41 l4mRh4X0r I prefer non-full block 2015-06-29 11:43:18 l4mRh4X0r On which glass is obviously an exception 2015-06-29 11:43:54 * gurun thinking hard .. smoke coming out of the ears 2015-06-29 11:44:04 l4mRh4X0r But someone will have to correct me if I'm wrong. 2015-06-29 11:44:31 gurun l4mRh4X0r, no i think you are right. Rethinking my question .. 2015-06-29 11:45:00 gurun Actually, my problem is flint and steal. And the logic for that. What to ignite and not. 2015-06-29 11:48:18 --> enchilado (enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 11:48:19 l4mRh4X0r I believe Minecraft itself ignites everything as long as it has air above 2015-06-29 11:48:34 l4mRh4X0r Or rather, air in the place where the fire would be 2015-06-29 11:49:13 -- enchilado est maintenant connu sous le nom aeonchild 2015-06-29 11:50:19 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host10-154-static.240-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 11:51:10 l4mRh4X0r Hmm, and after that it checks each tick whether the block is actually flammable 2015-06-29 11:55:17 morfin what about not burning fire? 2015-06-29 12:09:44 l4mRh4X0r How do you mean? 2015-06-29 12:18:49 gurun for me, it's the problem of when you try to ignite a track. The server i have does this wrong in the sense that it ignites it, on the server, but the flames are not visible on the client .. because it isn't supposed to do it. 2015-06-29 12:19:10 gurun so i have to figure out what "properties" of a block to use to control what can ignite, and not. 2015-06-29 12:19:19 gurun trancperency seem to be one such property. 2015-06-29 12:19:35 gurun but i'm reading .. it is fairly well documented stuff. 2015-06-29 12:33:07 <-- kcj (~kcj@unaffiliated/kcj) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-29 12:33:42 l4mRh4X0r From what I can see, it's just a per-block flammability value 2015-06-29 12:42:40 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 12:42:53 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-29 13:11:39 gurun l4mRh4X0r, flamable seems to indicate if the block can catch fire, and spread. Igniting a block seems to be a different thing. 2015-06-29 13:12:04 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host10-154-static.240-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-29 13:12:04 gurun So "flamable" more means .. "can be consumed by fire" 2015-06-29 14:11:40 --> gurun_ (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 14:11:40 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-29 14:16:02 l4mRh4X0r Is there a difference? 2015-06-29 14:16:14 l4mRh4X0r The only I can think of are netherrack and -- in the end -- bedrock 2015-06-29 14:26:56 --> gurun__ (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 14:26:56 <-- gurun_ (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-29 14:56:55 <-- WizardCM (~WizardCM@14-201-31-151.static.tpgi.com.au) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-29 15:04:58 <-- gurun__ (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Quit: Leaving) 2015-06-29 15:05:16 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 15:05:32 --> WizardCM (~WizardCM@14-201-31-151.static.tpgi.com.au) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 15:09:56 <-- WizardCM (~WizardCM@14-201-31-151.static.tpgi.com.au) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-06-29 15:10:34 --> WizardCM (~WizardCM@14-201-31-151.static.tpgi.com.au) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 16:28:15 --> Welite (591d6419@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.29.100.25) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 16:30:23 Welite Hi, I have question about the protocol compression, there is Set Compression packet, is it possible to send that packet before the handshake ? So the login process would be compressed ? 2015-06-29 16:47:23 +ammar2 don't think so, if you look at the protocol page the only states you're allowed to send the set compression packet in are login and play 2015-06-29 16:49:56 Welite ammar2 so the first packet sent to the server always has to be the 0x00 ? 2015-06-29 16:51:12 +ammar2 aye, also only the server can send the set compression packet anyway 2015-06-29 17:21:38 --> _Tom_ (~Administr@178-226-90.dynamic.cyta.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 17:29:37 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 17:30:09 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-29 17:33:33 l4mRh4X0r Welite: Compressing handshake and/or status doesn't make much sense anyway, the compression header would be bigger than the data to compress 2015-06-29 17:33:58 <-- yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a quitté (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 2015-06-29 17:34:19 Welite probably yes l4mRh4X0r, I was just wondering if everthing could be compressed 2015-06-29 17:36:06 l4mRh4X0r Ah, check. 2015-06-29 17:38:38 --> yawkat (~yawkat@cats.coffee) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 17:49:05 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-29 17:49:13 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 17:51:54 --> gurun_ (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 17:51:54 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-29 18:03:32 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 18:05:54 <-- gurun_ (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2015-06-29 18:06:01 --> gurun_ (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 18:07:21 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-29 18:14:37 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-06-29 18:19:51 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 18:19:51 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-29 18:21:12 --> RenegadeEagle3 (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 18:26:29 <-- gurun_ (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Quit: Leaving) 2015-06-29 18:26:45 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 18:32:44 <-- _Tom_ (~Administr@178-226-90.dynamic.cyta.gr) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-29 18:39:47 <-- benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2015-06-29 19:55:33 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-29 19:56:53 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 19:56:53 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2015-06-29 20:19:28 <-- Welite (591d6419@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.29.100.25) a quitté (Quit: Page closed) 2015-06-29 22:20:31 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-06-29 22:26:45 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 22:26:45 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-29 22:31:15 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-06-29 22:36:38 --> orthoplex64 (~orthoplex@unaffiliated/orthoplex64) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 22:36:48 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 22:36:48 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-29 23:03:57 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2015-06-29 23:09:19 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 23:09:19 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-29 23:19:36 <-- jast (jast@zoidberg.org) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-06-29 23:20:29 --> jast (jast@zoidberg.org) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-29 23:59:42 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-06-30 00:04:25 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 00:04:25 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-30 01:10:32 --> benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 01:18:06 --> bfoxwell (~Foxwell@c-76-110-182-132.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 01:34:32 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-06-30 01:39:34 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 01:39:34 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-30 02:12:11 <-- ferrybig (~ferrybig@a82-95-146-179.adsl.xs4all.nl) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2015-06-30 02:21:12 --> ferrybig (~ferrybig@2001:983:a317:1:ba27:ebff:fe6d:5f98) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 03:01:13 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2015-06-30 03:01:42 <-- jast (jast@zoidberg.org) a quitté (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2015-06-30 03:02:30 --> jast (jast@zoidberg.org) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 03:32:43 <-- winny (20025@unaffiliated/winstonw) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-30 04:40:32 <-- zh32 (~zh@2001:41d0:52:500::538) a quitté (Quit: bye) 2015-06-30 04:43:38 --> zh32 (~zh@2001:41d0:52:500::538) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 05:39:07 --> redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 05:41:00 <-- redstonehelper (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-06-30 05:41:00 -- redstonehelper_ est maintenant connu sous le nom redstonehelper 2015-06-30 07:21:34 --> winny (20025@unaffiliated/winstonw) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 08:12:31 <-- orthoplex64 (~orthoplex@unaffiliated/orthoplex64) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-06-30 08:38:07 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host10-154-static.240-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 08:55:54 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host10-154-static.240-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-30 09:01:52 <-- winny (20025@unaffiliated/winstonw) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-06-30 09:07:22 --> winny (20025@unaffiliated/winstonw) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 09:13:30 <-- bfoxwell (~Foxwell@c-76-110-182-132.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-06-30 09:29:12 --> icemanbp (~icemanbp@host10-154-static.240-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 10:18:35 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2015-06-30 10:26:37 <-- RenegadeEagle3 (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a quitté (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 2015-06-30 10:45:49 <-- icemanbp (~icemanbp@host10-154-static.240-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-30 15:11:05 -- gabizou est maintenant connu sous le nom gabizou|away 2015-06-30 16:14:28 --> SopaXorzTaker (~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 17:49:05 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 17:50:11 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-30 19:47:39 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-06-30 19:52:53 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 19:52:53 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-30 20:02:41 --> RenegadeEagle3 (~RenegadeE@173-19-198-172.client.mchsi.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 20:04:14 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-06-30 20:09:00 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 20:09:00 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-30 20:16:34 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2015-06-30 20:20:57 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 20:20:57 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-30 20:28:36 --> edlothiol (~edlothiol@ip1f124dd0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 20:36:15 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 20:37:32 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-06-30 21:13:34 --> jesper___ (~jesper@ip3e837907.speed.planet.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 21:14:38 <-- jesper___ (~jesper@ip3e837907.speed.planet.nl) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-30 21:15:01 --> jesper___ (~jesper@ip3e837907.speed.planet.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 21:18:06 Not-48e3 [wiki.vg] Edit by Jespertheend to Rcon -> http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Rcon&diff=6670&oldid=6555 2015-06-30 21:35:20 morfin i was interested 2015-06-30 21:35:34 morfin does server check entity positions every tick? 2015-06-30 21:35:43 morfin to calculate boundaries 2015-06-30 21:48:36 morfin for every entity 2015-06-30 21:54:04 --> orthoplex64 (~orthoplex@unaffiliated/orthoplex64) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 22:12:16 <-- jesper___ (~jesper@ip3e837907.speed.planet.nl) a quitté #mcdevs 2015-06-30 22:22:43 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2015-06-30 22:27:40 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 22:27:40 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-30 22:39:33 --> _123DontMessWitM (~123DMWM@pool-96-237-229-30.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 22:42:37 <-- _123DMWM (~123DMWM@pool-96-237-229-30.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-06-30 22:54:54 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-06-30 23:00:13 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 23:00:13 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-30 23:13:30 +XorBoole morfin I think they're cached, no? 2015-06-30 23:17:03 morfin but they're moving) 2015-06-30 23:24:11 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-06-30 23:27:47 <-- edlothiol (~edlothiol@ip1f124dd0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) a quitté (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2015-06-30 23:29:06 morfin oh 2015-06-30 23:29:15 morfin server recalculates when blocks break? 2015-06-30 23:29:16 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 23:29:16 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-06-30 23:29:19 morfin and moving 2015-06-30 23:36:50 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2015-06-30 23:40:41 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-06-30 23:45:47 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-06-30 23:45:47 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-07-01 00:00:31 +Amaranth morfin: Except they're always moving 2015-07-01 00:01:27 +Amaranth They're always falling and doing collision detection every tick to stop falling through the ground 2015-07-01 00:15:24 dav1d clients can actually cheat and go through blocks ... I had that happen with my client, where I had a lock which wouldnt release for a few seconds and cause the movement which should have been done over the course of this time at once, only checking if the target location was free, server let me teleport through relativly thick walls 2015-07-01 01:33:52 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-07-01 01:36:12 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 01:49:46 <-- Brandon15811__ (uid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ahbxlqwmkkvzslhd) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2015-07-01 02:02:50 <-- fortytwo (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) a quitté (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2015-07-01 02:04:13 <-- Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-07-01 02:06:10 <-- yorick (~yorick@oftn/member/yorick) a quitté (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2015-07-01 02:08:00 --> yorick (~yorick@oftn/member/yorick) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 02:08:20 <-- benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-07-01 02:13:16 Not-48e3 [wiki.vg] Edit by Gamingrobot to Client List -> http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Client_List&diff=6671&oldid=6662 2015-07-01 02:14:18 Not-48e3 [wiki.vg] Edit by Gamingrobot to Client List -> http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Client_List&diff=6672&oldid=6662 2015-07-01 02:21:22 <-- yorick (~yorick@oftn/member/yorick) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-07-01 02:26:37 <-- TkTech (~TkTech@irc.tkte.ch) a quitté (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-07-01 02:28:39 --> Brandon15811__ (uid13052@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xnqyfzjtclzvpvkd) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 02:35:11 --> TkTech (~TkTech@irc.tkte.ch) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 02:43:52 --> benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 03:01:23 --> Krenair_ (~alex@znc.alexmonk.uk) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 03:02:45 -- Krenair_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Krenair 2015-07-01 03:02:45 <-- Krenair (~alex@znc.alexmonk.uk) a quitté (Changing host) 2015-07-01 03:02:45 --> Krenair (~alex@wikimedia/Krenair) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 03:16:22 --> KexyBiscuit (~KexyBiscu@117.136.19.119) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 03:23:49 <-- KexyBiscuit (~KexyBiscu@117.136.19.119) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-07-01 04:19:01 <-- benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-07-01 04:43:01 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2015-07-01 05:12:32 --> bfoxwell (~Foxwell@c-76-110-182-132.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 05:16:10 --> benbaptist (~benbaptis@c-50-172-95-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 05:25:40 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2015-07-01 05:39:05 --> redstonehelper_ (~redstoneh@unaffiliated/redstonehelper) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 05:41:13 <-- redstonehelper 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Addisonep (uid86198@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oihkkuefdzjnmfmk) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2015-07-01 12:58:18 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 12:58:46 --> Aragas (Aragas@37-145-248-112.broadband.corbina.ru) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 12:59:48 <-- Dadido3 (~quassel@p5B00AF75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a quitté (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 2015-07-01 13:01:02 --> Dadido3 (~quassel@p5B00AF75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 13:11:53 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2015-07-01 13:16:35 Aragas Hello guys. Been awhile since i was her :). I have a question about texture handling in vanilla client. Back there, it was easy with one big texture. Like Terrain. It could be passed in a shader, there would be no problems with drawing multiple blocks in a single VBO. Now each texture is separated. I tried to google this, but have failed. So i wanna ask here. How is it done? I have some suggestions, but all they will decrease performance 2015-07-01 13:17:26 Aragas I saw something about custom renderers in forge wiki 2015-07-01 13:19:57 Paprikachu one option would be to create a single texture on the fly 2015-07-01 13:20:15 Paprikachu a 3d texture also works 2015-07-01 13:20:51 Paprikachu but i'm no graphics guy, so idk 2015-07-01 13:21:28 +Thinkofdeath vanilla creates the atlas on the fly 2015-07-01 13:21:59 Aragas CPU or GPU way? 2015-07-01 13:22:18 +Thinkofdeath combine on the cpu, upload to the gpu 2015-07-01 13:22:53 Aragas Thank you 2015-07-01 13:28:11 --> yorick (~yorick@oftn/member/yorick) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 13:35:03 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2015-07-01 13:58:58 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-07-01 14:04:13 --> SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 14:04:13 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-07-01 14:18:08 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2015-07-01 14:27:16 <-- KexyBiscuit_PRC (~KexyBiscu@153.34.194.89) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-07-01 14:27:32 --> KexyBiscuit_PRC (~KexyBiscu@104.41.179.22) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 14:55:41 morfin so it use atlas anyway? 2015-07-01 14:56:26 morfin as i know Minecraft started using separate textures but it make atlas of that in runtime? 2015-07-01 14:58:53 +Dinnerbone Yes, it creates an atlas at runtime 2015-07-01 15:01:11 morfin i think that's for OpenGL 2015-07-01 15:06:48 +Amaranth If you mean the Advanced OpenGL option no, it always does it 2015-07-01 15:07:32 +Amaranth iirc it even has logic to generate multiple textures if they would exceed the GPU's maximum texture size 2015-07-01 15:08:02 +Amaranth Although I don't remember anything about sorting the blocks so it doesn't flip between them while rendering so not perfect :P 2015-07-01 15:41:42 <-- SupaHam (~SupaHam@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::29c:3001) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-07-01 15:43:04 --> SupaHam (~SupaHam@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::29c:3001) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 15:44:41 --> lunanoko (~lunanoko@54685B11.cm-12-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 15:51:22 +XorBoole actually, I think there's an amusing bug related to the texture atlas 2015-07-01 15:52:06 +XorBoole if you make a model that is not contained inside the 16x16x16 cube, the parts sticking out don't use the breaking animation but instead whatever is next to them on the atlas 2015-07-01 16:04:23 <-- KexyBiscuit_PRC (~KexyBiscu@104.41.179.22) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-07-01 16:15:21 <-- mniip (mniip@april-fools/2014/third/mniip) a quitté (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-07-01 16:18:12 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Quit: UUID00) 2015-07-01 16:21:02 morfin oO? 2015-07-01 16:21:36 morfin what height giant have? 2015-07-01 16:37:17 --> NickG365_ (~NickG365@cortex.starlabs.theflash.rocks) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:38:01 --> M-ou-se_ (~m-ou.se@m-ou.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:39:05 --> kev009__ (~kev009@tempe0.bbox.io) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:41:33 --> Prf_Jako1 (~jakob@c-80d3e055.141-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:41:33 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Prf_Jako1] par ChanServ 2015-07-01 16:42:09 <-- Prf_Jakob (~jakob@c-80d3e055.141-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) a quitté (Disconnected by services) 2015-07-01 16:42:19 -- Prf_Jako1 est maintenant connu sous le nom Prf_Jakob 2015-07-01 16:44:35 --> flamin_s- (ali@flaminscotsman.co.uk) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:45:01 --> SpaceMan1ac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:45:02 --> Wuppie_ (~Wuppie@198.52.227.214) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:45:38 --> ashka` (~postmaste@5.9.122.82) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:45:55 --> Djinnibone (dinnerbone@i.like.butts.and.my.name.is.dinnerbone.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:45:55 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Djinnibone] par ChanServ 2015-07-01 16:45:56 -- ashka` est maintenant connu sous le nom Guest66235 2015-07-01 16:46:20 --> conehead- (~conehead@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:46:39 <-- SpaceManiac (~SpaceMani@74-194-137-165.gtwncmta01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:40 <-- gamingrobot (sid10990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjtixkeqibhlzyv) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:41 <-- Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:41 <-- mfj (~kvirc@202.55.151.66) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:41 <-- flamin_scotsman (ali@flaminscotsman.co.uk) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:42 <-- kev009_ (~kev009@tempe0.bbox.io) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:42 <-- EvilJStoker (jstoker@unaffiliated/jstoker) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:42 <-- NickG365 (~NickG365@cortex.starlabs.theflash.rocks) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:42 <-- Pyker (~pyker@pyker.net) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:43 <-- ashka (~postmaste@pdpc/supporter/active/ashka) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:43 <-- Wuppie (~Wuppie@198.52.227.214) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:44 <-- JeanSebTr (sid50581@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vbaqycfmrytnulcx) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:45 <-- Dinnerbone (dinnerbone@i.like.butts.and.my.name.is.dinnerbone.com) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:45 <-- M-ou-se (~m-ou.se@m-ou.se) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:45 <-- JonasOSDever (~jp@leaguecraft.cc) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:45 <-- Paprikachu (~pap@leaguecraft.cc) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:45 <-- conehead (~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:45 <-- Trojaner (~Trojaner|@2a01:238:4292:6e00:fc44:1fb0:320b:e18c) a quitté (*.net *.split) 2015-07-01 16:46:46 -- SpaceMan1ac est maintenant connu sous le nom SpaceManiac 2015-07-01 16:46:46 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v SpaceManiac] par ChanServ 2015-07-01 16:46:46 -- conehead- est maintenant connu sous le nom conehead 2015-07-01 16:46:48 -- Djinnibone est maintenant connu sous le nom Dinnerbone 2015-07-01 16:46:50 <-- conehead (~conehead@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2) a quitté (Changing host) 2015-07-01 16:46:50 --> conehead (~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:46:54 -- Wuppie_ est maintenant connu sous le nom Wuppie 2015-07-01 16:46:58 -- NickG365_ est maintenant connu sous le nom NickG365 2015-07-01 16:47:24 --> Pyker (~pyker@pyker.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:48:17 --> EvilJStoker (jstoker@unaffiliated/jstoker) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:52:53 --> _Tom_ (~Administr@178-226-90.dynamic.cyta.gr) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:53:04 --> gamingrobot (sid10990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lsiacfmlhoddvgzg) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:53:22 --> mfj (~kvirc@202.55.151.66) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 16:53:56 morfin Dinnerbone, do you know what's heigh of giant zombie? 2015-07-01 16:54:06 morfin *height 2015-07-01 16:57:09 Not-a8a6 [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/vtdz9 2015-07-01 16:57:10 Not-a8a6 [1.8-Models] drXor 9f57924 - Make furnaces use only one variant (empty + coal) pending a rewrite. 2015-07-01 16:58:52 --> JeanSebTr (sid50581@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fsaiovgnjgnqwpmp) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 17:07:01 --> JonasOSDever (~jp@leaguecraft.cc) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 17:07:16 <-- HansiHE (~HansiHE@hansihe.com) a quitté (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 2015-07-01 17:10:50 --> Trojaner|Offline (~Trojaner|@2a01:238:4292:6e00:fc44:1fb0:320b:e18c) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 17:11:06 -- Trojaner|Offline est maintenant connu sous le nom Trojaner 2015-07-01 17:12:06 --> HansiHE (~HansiHE@hansihe.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 17:12:13 morfin height of giant zombie is 12 blocks 2015-07-01 17:18:29 +XorBoole morfin should be in NMS 2015-07-01 17:18:40 +XorBoole in fact, the minecraft wiki might even have this information 2015-07-01 17:19:31 +XorBoole no need to poke the bone, at any rate 2015-07-01 17:28:26 morfin ok 2015-07-01 17:28:40 morfin but why boundary boxes are so broken? 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I tried switching the IDs but alas, it does not work. 2015-07-01 21:54:43 conji Erh, sorry, I meant the fire icon is 0x0 2015-07-01 21:54:47 conji Not 0x1 :P 2015-07-01 21:55:52 --> Tristitia (~tristitia@178.18.241.185) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 22:02:34 <-- Extreme (extreme7@unaffiliated/extreme7) a quitté (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-07-01 22:21:16 --> orthoplex64 (~orthoplex@unaffiliated/orthoplex64) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 22:29:31 <-- gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a quitté (Quit: Leaving) 2015-07-01 22:37:32 -- r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom zz_r04r 2015-07-01 22:46:56 <-- Addisonep (uid86198@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bkvcdcpqruadwbeg) a quitté (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2015-07-01 22:49:30 --> barneygale_ (~barneygal@5d60cda1.skybroadband.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 23:00:12 --> UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 23:00:36 <-- UUID00 (~Thunderbi@cpe-213-157-225-153.dynamic.amis.net) a quitté (Client Quit) 2015-07-01 23:14:32 <-- barneygale_ (~barneygal@5d60cda1.skybroadband.com) a quitté (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-07-01 23:14:44 --> barneygale_ (~barneygal@4e5662f9.skybroadband.com) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-01 23:20:57 -- zz_r04r est maintenant connu sous le nom r04r 2015-07-01 23:32:06 <-- _Tom_ (~Administr@178-226-90.dynamic.cyta.gr) a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-07-01 23:37:41 <-- conji (adc67f02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.198.127.2) a quitté (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-07-02 00:01:57 --> Amaranth (~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-02 00:01:57 -- Mode #mcdevs [+v Amaranth] par ChanServ 2015-07-02 00:11:36 --> gurun (~gurun@c83-249-65-92.bredband.comhem.se) a rejoint #mcdevs 2015-07-02 00:15:08 +XorBoole anyone know why the sides of the ingots are lit wrong? http://puu.sh/iJXUV/ed909675ce.png 2015-07-02 00:15:23 +XorBoole I can't nail down any reason (ambient occlusion is off) 2015-07-02 00:16:09 +Amaranth Maybe looking at cauldrons would help? 2015-07-02 00:16:14 +Amaranth Otherwise no idea 2015-07-02 00:17:16 +XorBoole Amaranth yeah I'm not sure, I've been trying for a while 2015-07-02 00:17:51 +XorBoole somehow I feel like it's a bug, but I don't want to bother a mojdev about it 2015-07-02 00:18:01 +XorBoole at least not until I have a better idea what's causing it