09:02 < AlphaBlend> hmmm
09:02 < Jckf> Maybe you use your Mojang account somewhere else. I cannot know
09:02 < AlphaBlend> i just have minecraft running, the launcher doesn't start back up
09:02 < AlphaBlend> maybe
09:02 < AlphaBlend> i'm not sure whether to make a bug ticket or not
09:47 <+Grum> maybe you have cloned your setup and using it somewhere else
12:32 < AlphaBlend> Grum: I only have one instance of the launcher running when it expires. It might take a day or so for it to expire, but I keep it running for long periods of time. Could that be the reason it simply expires? Also, is there a way to check when the token expires? Perhaps find when the token is first created then destroyed, and see if there is a length disparity between creation and destruction, 
12:32 < AlphaBlend> perhaps if it's a constant time? I'm not sure what to think of now
17:01 < Jckf> AlphaBlend, or it's as simple as: Someone else is using your account *dun dun dun~*
17:12 < AlphaBlend> lol
17:13 < AlphaBlend> i do doubt that
22:02 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/vnC5J
22:02 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 77049ce - Fix chat translation string formatting by replacing all formatting with %s
22:02 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 59837e3 - Merge pull request #148 from Gjum/fix-chat-translation-string-formatting
22:03 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] http://git.io/vnC5t
22:03 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 4ff7db8 - Async tasks: yielding a subtask gives (evt, data) instead of just data
22:03 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 0befd22 - Improve parsing of event definitions in async tasks
22:03 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 3a523fe - Add task.check_key() for easy check function generation, use in InventoryAsync
22:03 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 57c2cd3 - Merge pull request #145 from Gjum/task-improvements
22:03 < gamingrobot> even more merges!
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03:17 < Pangea> how would I go about modifying my client to send a successfully loaded (http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Resource_Pack_Status) status instead of the declined status?
03:38 <+Amaranth> Pangea: Cheater :P
03:38 < Pangea> ?
03:39 <+Amaranth> Also this isn't the place for modding the official client or server, this is for reverse engineering them and writing your own (or writing utilities)
03:39 < Pangea> oh
03:39 < Pangea> thanks.
03:40 <+Amaranth> You want #minecraftforge on epser
03:40 <+Amaranth> or not
04:17 < ScruffyRules> Amaranth, Nah probably not.
17:58 < vbisbest> hello.  does anyone have the new Player List Item packet format for 1.9?
18:00 < vbisbest> anyone around?
18:03 < ScruffyRules> Give it a few hours vbisbest,
18:03 < vbisbest> everyone still sleeping?
18:05 <+Thinkofdeath> I didn't think it had changed 
18:11 < vbisbest> Something seems different as the current format isnt working.  I noticed in 1.9 that players now contain health next to their name
18:11 < vbisbest> when tab is pressed
18:11 < vbisbest> so I thought perhaps that is included in the player list item now
18:13 <+Thinkofdeath> that can be done in 1.8 too
18:13 <+Thinkofdeath> scoreboards have that option
18:14 < vbisbest> I just know that thinks get wacked on the latest 1.9 snapshot on that packet
18:19 < vbisbest> it started breaking on snapshot 15w35e
18:44 < rom1504> are you sure it's that packet ?
18:44 < rom1504> other packets related to players and entities have changed
18:45 <+Thinkofdeath> 15w35 was the packet shuffle I think
18:56 < vbisbest> checking now to make sure
18:57 < vbisbest> Upon joining, everything is good up to PluginMessage
18:57 < vbisbest> next packet is Player List Item and thats where it gets off
18:58 <+Thinkofdeath> Join Game and everything fine?
18:59 < vbisbest> checking
19:00 < vbisbest> looks like you are right.  I must have missed something in the packet shuffle
19:02 < vbisbest> so keep alive is really 0x1F?
19:03 <+Thinkofdeath> yes
19:03 < vbisbest> thanks
19:11 < vbisbest> yep, shuffle got me.  Thank you for the help and the great work you do
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19:15 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 3 commits to 1.8 [+0/-0/±3] http://git.io/vniGG
19:15 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] roblabla 8a59694 - Implement new syntax for context lookups.
19:15 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] roblabla b864f2d - Arrays don't add a stackframe
19:15 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 7cc0504 - Merge pull request #70 from roblabla/feature-newContextSyntax Implement new syntax for context lookups.
19:54 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 8 commits to master [+8/-4/±12] http://git.io/vni2j
19:54 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum a85303f - Split tests for chat() and whisper()
19:54 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum daaf356 - Remove unneeded stuff from test_chat.py and test_interact.py
19:54 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 526496c - Add taskmanager plugin and new Task helper class
19:54 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] ... and 5 more commits.
19:56 <+XorBoole> wow, such push
19:56 <+XorBoole> many commit
19:56 <+XorBoole> very contribute
20:11 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 3 commits to master [+2/-2/±2] http://git.io/vni6t
20:11 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 4c498ee - Change physics_tools to collision
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20:11 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 2901ef3 - Merge pull request #152 from gamingrobot/tools-fix
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21:01 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 03eb7d0 - Updated docs and example
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08:50 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vnMoO
08:50 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot bb9aa79 - Update README.rst
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09:32 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 24be472 - Remove logger.info call
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09:46 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 0ddd97e - Update test_datautils.py
15:51 < Not-2be> [mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/vnyiz
15:52 < Not-2be> [mineflayer] rom1504 deleted branch updateNMP
17:39 < morfin> interesting why everybody develop own engine for client
17:46 < rom1504> morfin: you mean own graphic engine ?
17:55 < morfin> well, you need something to render
18:03 <+Amaranth> morfin: Well, it's kind of a special case
18:04 <+Amaranth> Rendering Minecraft is very simple and very unlike most everything else
18:04 <+XorBoole> > very simple
18:04 <+XorBoole> have you seen steven's render?
18:04 <+XorBoole> or better yet, vanilla's?
18:04  * XorBoole runs
18:04 < morfin> i saw chicken
18:04 < morfin> :D
18:05 < morfin> ModelRenderer was rendering boxes
18:06 < morfin> it's simple until you want hack something and have not just basic rendering i guess
18:06 <+Amaranth> Alright so terrain rendering is what I mean :P
18:06  * XorBoole renders Amaranth 
18:06 <+Amaranth> But unless you're making models yourself, rigging them, making animations, etc then you're still doing something unlike most everything else
18:07 < morfin> i saw rendering of monsters
18:07 < morfin> it's simple too
18:08 <+Amaranth> It's not too hard but it's more code than chunks
18:09 < morfin> basically i do not like fixed models
18:15 < morfin> i want to try write server first and thinking about design alot
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18:57 < Starfan> Hi, I am already getting mad of this error in bungeecord http://hastebin.com/itibowawub.avrasm, I am writting my own client (no graphics, just a program for my server admins) and this error appears everytime when I try to send more then 1 packet in the same time. If I send 1 packet then I wait 2 or 3 seconds everything is ok, but I need to send more then 1 packet in 3 seconds, any tips ?
19:00 < Starfan> Anyone please ? ^
19:50 < rom15041> Try #bungeecord
20:33 < Starfan> rom15041: it is protocol related so ...
20:44 < angal> Is the same issue appears on vanilla server?
20:48 < Starfan> angal: It is bungeecord error
20:49 < Starfan> it appears only on bungeecord
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16:26 < Not-2be> [Charge] Wallbraker pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vnhTo
16:26 < Not-2be> [Charge] Wallbraker 5d1f890 - charge: Build with internal perf
20:16 < morfin> hey guys
21:58 < morfin> i remember you said about sharding 
21:59 < morfin> but one question - how ensure that world is contiguous?
22:01 < morfin> i mean i can create shard managing let's say 200x200 chunks and another shard managing let's say 100x100 chunks and another shard managing 50x50 chunks, but what do i do about hole 50x50 chunks?
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05:39 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vcTRQ
05:39 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro 0e892e1 - Remove code duplication that snuck in
05:54 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vcTuI
05:54 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro 61db94a - interact look and look_at unhackified
06:40 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vcTVY
06:40 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro c9328b7 - Physics update I meant to push ages ago
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19:49 < Timelaw> Anybody here implemented a server for 1.8.8 who can tell me whether I am supposed to get my hostname/IP with a tab infront of it? E.g.: "\tlocalhost"
19:58 < angal> Em... You about handshake protocol?
20:02 < Timelaw> angal: Yes. THe absolute first packet to be received
20:02 < Timelaw> angal: In my case, when clicking refresh on my multiplayer server list
20:05 < Timelaw> angal: It is supposed to be something like: Length (VarInt), Packet ID (VarInt), Protocol Version (VarInt), Server Address (String), Server Port (UShort), Next State (VarInt)
20:06 < rom1504> pretty sure there shouldn't be a tab
20:06 < Timelaw> angal: Just finding it odd that my String contains a tab because I am trying to figure out how to parse it all, but I really want to know why there is a tab there as I need to know the exact length of my string if I am to parse the VarInts behind it
20:07 < shoghicp> maybe that tab is your length
20:07 < shoghicp> \t = 0x09 = len(localhost)
20:07 < Timelaw> shoghicp: Ah!
20:07 < Timelaw> So, the string has its own length included... God damnit. Why am I so blind?
20:09 < Timelaw> Ah great, now I can see the definition of String on wiki.vg, saying it surely is prefixed by it's length. Missed that one. Now I am embarrassed.
20:11 < Timelaw> its*
20:11 < Timelaw> shoghicp: I think the reason why I got so concerned was because by coincidence 127.0.0.1 is also of length 9, which meant it also had a tab prefixed haha
20:22 < Timelaw> Well, seeing as I made such a mistake I'm taking a break for now to chill. Thanks guys :) Good night!
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00:27 < rom1504> any change between 15w38b and 15w39c ?
10:46 < rom1504> seems so
10:46 < rom1504> more reordering of packets ?
10:53 < rom1504> ah I guess not
10:59 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to 1.8 [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vcnwn
10:59 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 7af5693 - update minecraftVersion to 1.8.8
11:06 < rom1504> pre-release page updated
13:30 < roblabla> Ohay guys. I'm getting 204 'No Content' when doing hasJoined with a wrong username/serverId combo. Is that expected ?
13:31 < roblabla> (I expected a 40* error)
13:40 < Fenhl> how do I format the timestamp for http://wiki.vg/Mojang_API#Username_-.3E_UUID_at_time ?
13:41 < rom1504> 'The timestamp is a java timestamp (without milliseconds)' ?
13:42 < roblabla> that's... weird. a timestamp for me would be the amount of ms since unixtime
13:42 < roblabla> e.g. right now would be about : 1443613351 
13:43 < Fenhl> I don't know what a “java timestamp” is, is that different from a UNIX timestamp?
13:43 < rom1504> roblabla: that's the number of seconds since 1970
13:43 < roblabla> rom1504, right
13:44 < roblabla> Fenhl, I don't think there's a difference, but then again I never heard of anything like a "java timestamp"
13:44 < roblabla> I mean there is java.sql.Timestamp iirc but I doubt that's it :|
13:44 < roblabla> I would try unix timestamps.
13:45 < rom1504> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/732034/getting-unixtime-in-java seems like "java timestamp" is just a normal (unix) timestamp
13:45 < Fenhl> I'll see if I can figure out what I'm doing wrong in my project
13:45 < Fenhl> if I find out I'll clarify in the docs
13:50 < Fenhl> ah, I had it as a float, which got formatted with a .0 at the end
13:52 < Fenhl> updated the wiki
16:19 < rom1504> does mojang provide checksums for the server jar files ?
16:20 < rom1504> something like https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/versions/1.8.3/minecraft_server.1.8.3.jar.md5
16:20 < unascribed> S3 itself supplies MD5 checksums in the ETag header IIRC, let me check
16:21 < unascribed> yep, ETag of 1.8.3 matches the md5sum of the file
16:22 < unascribed> so you can just pull it from the HTTP headers, make sure to strip the surrounding quotes
16:22 < rom1504> okay thanks I'll use that
16:22 < barneygale> working on anything fun rom1504 ?
16:26 < rom1504> got a simple package that can download any mc server jar there https://github.com/rom1504/node-minecraft-wrap so we can test automatically against our supported version in node-minecraft-protocol and mineflayer
16:27 < rom1504> and the pb I'm trying to solve with checksums is that if you interrupt the test (and hence possible the download) it uses a partially download jar, which breaks
16:27 < rom1504> *possibly
16:28 < rom1504> (sudo npm install -g minecraft-wrap ; downloadMinecraft 15w39c mc.jar)
16:28 < unascribed> is there an equivalent to the minecraft-data protocol.json file for legacy? (1.6.4 and 1.5.2 specifically)
16:28 < rom1504> not yet, but we plan on supporting older versions yeah
16:29 < rom1504> currently we got 1.8 and 1.9, next thing will probably be 1.7, then we'll see
16:29 < unascribed> oh, you're one of the contributors
16:29 < unascribed> managed to miss that :P
16:29 < rom1504> yeah
16:32 < rom1504> (and for a non-minecraft-data protocol.json thing for 1.6 and 1.5, there are probably stuff yeah, look at these projects maybe https://gist.github.com/rom1504/7b4c0cc29fb03122b6a5#list-of-files-representing-the-minecraft-protocol , especially the unmaintained ones (for older stuff) :p)
16:32 < unascribed> awesome, thanks
16:34 < unascribed> that list is a lot smaller than I was expecting :P
16:34 < unascribed> rather than going for an opaque Java impl of the legacy protocol, I'll probably write a couple JSON files and share them to try to help on that front
16:36 < rom1504> well I didn't go through every mc project on the web :p, these are just the ones I could find, there are probably more stuff in projects in http://wiki.vg/Client_List , http://wiki.vg/Server_List and http://wiki.vg/Library_List (but you'll have to go through their code to find the protocol implementation)
16:37 < unascribed> yeah, I've been through those lists, I just wanted to ask and see if I was missing something obvious
16:37 < unascribed> which i have a tendency to do
16:38 < rom1504> it'll help if you can do a .json file for 1.5 and/or 1.6 anyway yeah :)
16:38 < unascribed> yeah, it's a lot more universal that way
16:39 < unascribed> I was going to do it with a ton of lambdas, but since there's nothing of the sort already I might as well
16:39 < barneygale> I'd argue that supporting 1.5/1.6 could make the post-netty stuff more complicated to describe
16:39 < unascribed> tell me about it :P
16:39 < unascribed> I'm not supporting 1.5 and 1.6 because I want to
16:40 < barneygale> sorry, talking specifically about minecraft-data
16:40 < unascribed> ah
16:40 < rom1504> hmm I don't really know the 1.5 or 1.6 protocol barneygale but I'm sure we can find a schema that would work for both
16:41 < unascribed> the biggest difference is the packet headers
16:41 < unascribed> 1.6 and earlier don't have length and there's not a generic way to do compression
16:41 < unascribed> there's also no varints, and most things use UTF-16BE instead of UTF-8
16:42 < barneygale> rom1504, you'd need more string types, and I'm guessing you'll need to describe whether a protocol version has length-prefixed packets, packet compression, etc
16:42 < rom1504> okay, well I don't think that should be much problem for the schema. I think one of the biggest problem for the schema is that 1.6 has no state I think ? but we'll have to solve this for mcpe anyway
16:43 < barneygale> No protocol modes, correct.
16:43 < unascribed> yeah, all the packets are clumped together into one id space
16:43 < barneygale> Well, implicit modes.
16:43 < rom1504> (started to work on mcpe there https://gist.github.com/rom1504/d6e7160cce5210efcc7b , not at all complete )
16:44 < rom1504> barneygale: yeah sure, we want to do that
16:44 < unascribed> the main problem I see with the schema is that some packets in legacy are bidirectional
16:44 < rom1504> yeah sure that has to be solved for mcpe too
16:44 < unascribed> for states, having only a "default" state would work
16:45 < rom1504> what I did for now is a clientBound boolean and a serverBound boolean for each packet
16:45 < rom1504> not sure if it's a good idea
16:46 < unascribed> I wonder how badly the wiki parser would explode if I pointed it at one of the legacy pages
16:47 < rom1504> anyway, the more work get done into trying to write protocol.json files, the more info we have to define a good schema that would work for all these protocols
16:47 < rom1504> unascribed: you mean mcData wiki parser thing ?
16:48 < unascribed> yeah
16:48 < unascribed> looks like it has static id -> name mappings
16:48 < unascribed> so it wouldn't produce anything even resembling useful, so I guess i'll just write this by hand
16:48 < unascribed> legacy is no longer updated so it doesn't really matter
16:48 < rom1504> the static id -> name mapping is just because wiki.vg names and mcData names aren't the same
16:48 < rom1504> you can remove it
16:49 < Fenhl> there's a thing that parses [[Protocol]]?
16:49 < rom1504> but then it's written for the current protocol page, no idea how it would work for an older one
16:49 < unascribed> yeah, the format of the wikitables on the old page is surprisingly different
16:49 < Fenhl> I've been refactoring the article a bit
16:50 < Fenhl> to make it more readable
16:50 < unascribed> rip parser
16:50 < rom1504> Fenhl: yeah https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/blob/1.8/tools/js/wiki_extractor/protocol_extractor.js , but it's not complete, it doesn't parse the most complicated packets (the ones with tons of colspan and rowspan)
16:50 < Fenhl> for humans, that is
16:50 < Fenhl> rom1504: expect more of those tables in the future
16:50 < unascribed> I almost think it'd be best to write into the protocol.json and have a way to turn that into wikitext with a git bot
16:51 < Fenhl> that's probably also a bad idea
16:51 < rom1504> also we did that fyi http://prismarinejs.github.io/minecraft-data/?d=protocol , other way round (protocol.json -> html) , which is mostly complete (except we don't have the description and field notes yet)
16:53 < Fenhl> I'm also working on introducing the concept of enums to the article
16:53 < Fenhl> [[Pre-release protocol]] already has a couple of those, will probably finish doing that when 1.9 releases and we merge it back into [[Protocol]]
16:54 < rom1504> it's just about adding "enum" at the end of the field type right ?
16:55 < rom1504> I don't think you plan on putting all enum values in the protocol page
16:55 < Fenhl> there will be a separate article for those
16:55 < rom1504> (is blockId an enum ?)
16:55 < Fenhl> or at least the ones that appear in multiple packets
16:55 < Fenhl> no, block IDs are already documented on the Minecraft Wiki, we don't need to duplicate that
16:56 < rom1504> yeah
16:56 < Fenhl> also Mojang is changing how those work so the static mapping might be gone by the time 1.9 is released
17:01 < unascribed> hm, I wonder why the main hand setting isn't in what is currently called the "Displayed Skin Parts" field
23:03 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 2 commits to master [+42/-0/±10] http://git.io/vc8Ih
23:03 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 5f90bba - Add plugin docs
23:03 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 0c8607c - Merge pull request #156 from gamingrobot/plugin-docs
23:21 < barneygale_> any idea how close 1.9 is?
23:56 < redstonehelper> barneygale_: 5 more weeks at the bare minimum
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00:29 < rom1504> redstonehelper: how do you figure that ?
01:45 < redstonehelper> rom1504: there's some things they still need to add that will require at least 2-3 snapshots to flesh out, db just started working on boats and then there's a few few weeks of bug fixing and prereleases
01:49 < rom1504> ok so yeah that means >5 weeks
01:49 < rom1504> but what about 40 weeks ?
01:50 < redstonehelper> rom1504: what?
01:51 < rom1504> why wouldn't they get 1.9 out in 6 months or more ?
01:51 < redstonehelper> oh you're talking about total dev time?
01:51 < redstonehelper> I can only guess
01:52 < redstonehelper> minecon, microsoft, development time are the three major factors I'd guess
01:53 < rom1504> when is the next minecon ?
01:56 < rom1504> assuming they follow the same patter as previous years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MineCon#Events_by_year , I'd say around september 2016
01:56 < rom1504> so they might present 1.9 in 12 months then
01:56 < rom1504> *11
01:58 < redstonehelper> no, I'm saying 1.9 development was possibly slowed down by the last minecon
01:59 < rom1504> hmm
03:46 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vc4n2
03:46 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro 75a69cf - Document Ticker plugin, still learning rst
03:51 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/vc4cB
03:51 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro bf55799 - Playload -> Payload
03:56 < morfin> lol
04:03 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/vc4Wc
04:03 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro 5a50e0c - Document event plugin events
04:10 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vc4lm
04:10 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro 0c30d42 - Remove optimism from ReadMe
04:20 < gamingrobot> I am perfectly ok with slow releases, gives us time to catch up :P
19:49 < TkTech> Fun fact: wiki.vg's traffic is now (rounded) 40% German, 40% English, and 13% Russian
19:50 < rom1504> much german people
20:06 < redstonehelper> woo
20:10 < rom1504> denounce yourselves
23:26 <+md_5> it would be 22more australian if someone could reset my password >.>
23:30 < dx> TkTech: ^
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00:26 < Timelaw> I get a packet from the Minecraft client right before it closes the TCP socket, starting with 254. What is this?
00:28 < rom1504> http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Legacy_Server_List_Ping
00:29 < Timelaw> rom1504: Can't be that one, as it is way too long, getting the length of 254 whereas the ID should be, and it seems the payload should be constant but this one is much longer... Unless it is two packets
00:30 < Timelaw> rom1504: If this is the legacy ping then that means I will have to check for this ID before checking for length..?
00:33 < rom1504> ah you mean the length of your packet is 254 ?
00:34 < rom1504> well then I don't know what it is
00:34 < rom1504> it's not to easy to guess a packet by its length
00:34 < rom1504> but you should definitely be able to parse all packets of the protocol
00:34 < Timelaw> rom1504: Well, that is how I setup my parsing but if this legacy package breaks the norm, as it does not seem to have a length at the start, then I'll have to have an exception rule looking for this package before handling the protocol normally.
00:35 < angal> No i's id. And yes, while in handshaking you need to ckeck if you get FE, switch to you 1.6 protocol implementation.
00:36 < Timelaw> angal: Okey, that is annoying. Thanks though! What do you mean "No i's id."?
00:40 < angal> Or, if you wish, you can ignore his packet and terminate connection, while receiving it (due to error/regular close), but old clients (pre 1.7) and new with realy big ping willn't see you in server list.
00:40 < angal> And i mean 'No it's id'. And this is not important.
00:40 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] http://git.io/vcudo
00:41 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] luken d192dcf - Movement primitives stop and is_moving
00:41 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] luken 09e374e - Improve path finding finish point accuracy. Helpful to ensure bot has dropped off to a lower block
00:41 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] luken 7e42276 - flake8 fixes
00:41 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 4428cba - Merge pull request #157 from luken/feature-improve_move
01:37 < Aikar> Grum: since you appear alive, Brand usage guidelines say "Commercial things" can use the name as minecraft long as its not dominant, do you know if this carries over if we wanted to make a T Shirt for our server (Empire Minecraft being the name)? (hell, not even looking to profit either, sell em as cheap as the t shirt companies allow)
01:39 < Aikar> oh hmm i see clause that may state no 
05:25 < rustydentalfloss> hello fellow devs
05:28 < rustydentalfloss> what kind of forumla would I use to generate a sphere in minecraft?
06:18 <+Grum> Aikar: i'm not the right person to answer this, my gut feeling says it 'should be ok' but please ask brands@ if you want to be 100% sure
06:18 < Aikar> ok, didnt know about that email, so thanks :)
07:05 < Aikar> action bar only allow white text?
07:05 < Aikar> doing: getHandle().playerConnection.sendPacket(new PacketPlayOutChat(CraftChatMessage.fromString(message)[0], (byte) 2));
07:06 < Aikar> which generates a component, but still shows white
07:17 <+ammar2> rustydentalfloss: I'd check how worldedit does it
07:17 <+ammar2> https://github.com/sk89q/WorldEdit/blob/58aac973af943bc747dc58161d84c34932d6bc1e/worldedit-core/src/main/java/com/sk89q/worldedit/EditSession.java#L1410-L1510
08:44 < Aikar> Grum: looks like sending {text:'&4Foo'} (section instead of &) actually works.... can that be updated for 1.9 to use real components instead of ghetto mixture component wrapper but legacy inner
08:44 < Aikar> for action bar*
08:45 < Aikar> ok holy crap its near 3am and i gotta work tomo, adios
10:38 <+AndrewPH> Grum: minecraft classic server list gone 4ever? just need confirmation
10:43 <+Dinnerbone> Yes
10:53 < Fenhl> oh whoops I totally missed that Legacy Server List Ping isn't length-prefixed
10:58 < Fenhl> added a warning
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22:16 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro 5a3c157 - Random stuff sitting in my repo
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22:19 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro 4a5d069 - OH GOD I BROKE THE BUILD
22:32 < barneygale_> nice commit messages nickelpro :D
22:33 < nickelpro> I aim for clear and imformative
22:33 < nickelpro> Failing that, entertaining
22:33 < barneygale_> hahahahaha
22:33 < gamingrobot> It should have been "Added previously removed whitespace"
22:33 < gamingrobot> :P
22:33 < nickelpro> '' -> ' '
22:33 < gamingrobot> but I like that commit message as well
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00:38 < IceAP> Movement packets get queued to be sent after actions using that position due to the fact that actions are queued immediately, and movement happens at the end of the client tick.  This means that the server doesn't get the updated position until after the action, and oftentimes that makes the context of the action seem wrong (not looking at the block being clicked).  Not sure what the easiest way to fix this is...
00:39 < nickelpro> IceAP for what client/framework?
00:39 < IceAP> I believe that's how the Minecraft client has worked (forever?)
00:40 < IceAP> You get the movement in the proper tick, just after actions that rely on that movement.  If that makes sense.
00:40 < nickelpro> Really? I've spent a lot of time in the client movement code and don't remember that, but then again I wasn't looking at click actions
00:41 < IceAP> To my understanding, it's all a queue that gets sent out every tick.  Movement packets get queued upon the tick, which means they are last to be queued, and thus last to be sent.
00:43 < Gjum> when a server has nocheat, you sometimes don't get to mine a block because you are one tick off and didn't look at it at that moment
00:43 < IceAP> ^ that is the exact scenario I'm working on right now (NoCheatPlus)
00:43 < Gjum> so it makes sense
00:47 <+AndrewPH> Dinnerbone: ah didn't see your answer. thx!
00:51 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 3 commits to master [+181/-109/±72] http://git.io/vcwAg
00:51 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot d9266ac - spock -> spockbot
00:51 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot e350fba - Fix extra file
00:51 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro 9fc993c - Merge pull request #160 from gamingrobot/break-everything
01:59 < ted_> HI guys, where can I get some help related to Minecraft!?
02:36 < rom1504> asking to ask then leaving, best strategy ever
02:47 < nickelpro> That's how all great things are done, impatience and ignorance
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05:29 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro ef333a3 - Check if connected before killing socket
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05:58 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot b427066 - Move everything out of utils into proper places
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07:12 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro 8804d02 - self.connected -> self.net.connected
07:14 < nickelpro> mcdevs, right around this time every Friday night, becomes the SpockBot show. The show where we watch SpockBot commits scroll by
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13:13 < OscarOrSomething> Anyone online?
13:18 < Fenhl> yes
13:21 < OscarOrSomething> I'm trying to parse a handshake packet in NodeJS but it's giving me a blank for the server address and a 0 for the protocol version
13:40 < HansiHE> OscarOrSomething, some more details? are you using a library to parse it? hex dump of the packet?
13:43 < OscarOrSomething> The reading uses these functions: http://hastebin.com/mirizelubu.js
13:43 < OscarOrSomething> It looks like the readString function is returning NaN for it's size
13:45 < OscarOrSomething> When it's read it gives nextState: "f", protocolVersion: "0", serverAddress: "", serverPort: 3840
13:47 < HansiHE> Do you have a hex dump of the packet you are trying to parse?
13:48 < HansiHE> Also, is this your code, or is it from somewhere else?
13:48 < HansiHE> Does the port match?
13:49 < OscarOrSomething> No, the port is 25565
13:49 < OscarOrSomething> The code is from Prismarine JS
13:49 < OscarOrSomething> and I'm not sure what a hex dump is but buffer.toString('hex') gives 0f002f096c6f63616c686f737463dd01
13:53 < HansiHE> right, that's it
13:54 < HansiHE> Seeing as the protocol version is the first thing in the packet, the code for reading that is probably what is broken
14:21 < OscarOrSomething> I used some code from a different module but it still isn't working
14:21 < OscarOrSomething> http://hastebin.com/dodicelewe.rb
15:40 < rom15041> OscarOrSomething: any reason for not using node-minecraft-protocol?
15:42 < rom15041> These functions are applied only after decryption, decompression and splitting of the packets
15:42 < rom15041> See the transforms/ dir
15:42 < OscarOrSomething> Ok, Thanks
15:43 < rom15041> What are you trying to code ?
22:20 < morfin> Minecraft server does not have priority concept?
22:20 < morfin> so everything have equal priority
22:21 < morfin> i mean handling incoming from users data, calculationg physics, AI etc
22:25 <+ammar2> yes
22:25 <+ammar2> everything that needs to be handled in a tick is handled
22:26 < morfin> then no point to try do something else i think
22:51 <+Amaranth> ammar2, morfin: The block tick scheduler has some concept of priority
22:51 <+Amaranth> I think that's on insertion though, not on processing
22:51 <+Amaranth> But they were messing with that for 1.5 to try to make redstone more consistent
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00:21 < nickelpro> w00t w00t working pathfinding
00:46 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum pushed 2 commits to master [+2/-0/±6] http://git.io/vc6Hq
00:46 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 60d98de - Add EVENT_UNREGISTER for unregistering events instead of return True
00:46 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 8fb680e - Merge pull request #166 from gamingrobot/event-unregister
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00:48 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot dab25f3 - Change connect and disconnect to be prefixed
00:48 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum ea76a7d - Merge pull request #167 from gamingrobot/net-event
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01:26 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 7abb790 - Fix log level in example
11:42 < phasesaber> Does anyone know what the CursorX/Y/Z are in a ClientPlayerBlockPlacement packet?
11:44 < angal> Location of player cursor inside of block, placement aginst which appers. If i remember correct it.
11:46 < phasesaber> Like pitch and yaw?
11:48 < angal> Like x, y, and z...
11:49 < phasesaber> But you can only move your cursor up and sideways.... O.o?
11:50 < angal> And it position in world (and world is 3d) will be some x, y, and z.
11:50 < phasesaber> So it gets projected onto a block?
11:52 < angal> Wiki doesn't have description of this?
11:53 < phasesaber> "The position of the crosshair on the block"
11:54 < angal> I don't shure, but it should be offset from 0-0-0 corner of a block.
11:54 < angal> Better try it yourself (ie, click at different parts of fence) and see what values you got.
12:00 < phasesaber> Is there any pseudocode anywhere for calculating it?
13:07 < Fenhl> I've wondered about this as well
13:08 < Fenhl> I was interpreting it the same way as angal but wasn't sure so I didn't clarify in the article
13:09 < Fenhl> if anyone could do some experimentation and give a definite answer that would be great
13:13 < Gjum> Fenhl, it is as angal described. imagine placing a slab at the side of a block, how else would you distinguish between a top/bottom slab?
13:17 < Fenhl> Gjum: how does the coordinate system work? Is it from -128/-128/-128 when looking at the bottom northwest corner to 127/127/127 when looking at the top northeast corner?
13:17 < Fenhl> *top southeast
13:17 < Gjum> I suppose the server could calculate it from pitch/yaw, but the client does the raycasting anyways and gets the exact in-block coordinate
13:17 < Gjum> I think it's 0..7 or 0..15
13:18 < Fenhl> or is it actually unsigned bytes and goes from 0/0/0 to 255/255/255?
13:18 < Fenhl> ah, 0..15 would make sense, that would be one unit per pixel
13:18 < Gjum> yup, 0..15 should be it
13:19 < Fenhl> alright, thanks for the clarification
13:19 < Gjum> might be interesting to try >= 16 and see what happens
13:20  * Fenhl starts editing [[Pre-release protocol]]
13:23 < rom15041> https://github.com/andrewrk/mineflayer/issues/268#issuecomment-94953018
13:23 < rom15041> Gjum ^
13:25 < Gjum> oh right
13:31 < Fenhl> do Notchian clients send the irrelevant field correctly (e.g. Cursor Position Z set to 15 if placing against the south side of a block)?
13:32 < Fenhl> or I should say, south side of a full block
13:34 < Fenhl> and do they use the correct value if placing against blocks with nonstandard hitboxes, e.g. Cursor Position Y set to 7 if placing against the top face of a slab?
13:37 < Fenhl> I'm going to assume they do for now, can be corrected later if needed
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04:50 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro c8eef8d - Pathfinding progress commit
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10:16 < gamingrobot> there now spockbot supports books and the wiki page has been updated with some more useful info on how books work
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13:26 < aaps> are there people here that work with blende to render minecraft stills or movies ?
13:26 < aaps> or make plugins for blender at that subject ?
13:52 < rom1504> probably not
13:56 < aaps> indeed
14:00 < rom1504> is that interesting ? doing movies of minecraft ?
14:19 < aaps> well, no making maovies of minecraft in blender is a lot of work
14:19 < aaps> maovies ?
14:19 < aaps> movies
14:20 < aaps> that is why i made it possible to record minecraft session and play them in blender
14:23 < barneygale> A few years ago I came across some software that could dump geometry from opengl contexts to .obj
14:24 < barneygale> that might be useful I guess? no idea what it was called
14:26 < aaps> oh yeah that is mineways
14:27 < aaps> im taking about a script that records all minecraft traffic and replays it in blender
14:35 < aaps> im making this script, some nice progress, yust wondering if there is interest in that ?
14:41 < barneygale> aaps, this thing records traffic: https://miners-movies.com/
14:43 < aaps> ah yeah i have seen that one as well, but my script lets you import it in blender, and put lots of cpu power in making it look good
14:43 < aaps> i already have the movement of all entitys, monsters etc, to import in blender together with their movements
14:51 < aaps> this might be a good idea for more games i think, to record network traffic, and render the game in blender based on network traffic
14:52 < aaps> so all post production can be done om 3d models instead on 2d mpeg material for example
15:01 < Gjum> aaps, how does it perform on large worlds (~ 4k x 4k) with 200+ players?
15:03 < aaps> for now, i have never tryed it, for now i import only mobs players and entitys not blocks yet
15:03 < aaps> an import of a recording of 30 seconds takes 5 seconds on a slow machine
15:04 < aaps> so im willing to try it on such a big world if someone invites me to such a world
15:06 < aaps> the animation runs at 12 fps in blender when animating 30 entitys
20:44 < gamingrobot> oops http://i.imgur.com/OQ7GPUH.png
20:44 < gamingrobot> books are weird
21:02 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to 1.9 [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vcHRf
21:02 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 6c57773 - update to 15w40b - 76 : no protocol change
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11:07 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot d69ad8a - Fix book api and encoding large books
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01:41 < SuperstarGamer> Anyone online?
01:46 < nickelpro> No
01:52 < rom1504> what is wiki.vg called ?
01:53 < rom1504> "mcdevs wiki" ?
01:57 < nickelpro> Minecraft Coalition Wiki
01:59 < rom1504> hmm hmm
01:59 < rom1504> 431 google results on that name
02:01 < rom1504> let's go with "mcdevs-wiki", it's shorter
02:02 < Gjum> there's http://wiki.vg/MCDevs/rules 
02:02 < Gjum> which can be interpreted as mcdevs != wiki.vg
02:06 < nickelpro> http://wiki.vg/MCDevs seems to say otherwise
03:14 < SuperstarGamer> Anyone still on?
03:14 < SuperstarGamer> I started tf2 and now i'm here
03:14 < SuperstarGamer> nickelpro: ping
03:25 < gamingrobot> SuperstarGamer: ?
03:31 < nickelpro> SuperstarGamer: pong
03:42 < SuperstarGamer> BACK
20:02 < Timelaw> Is there anybody that can help me with the structure of the encryption request package?
20:02 < Timelaw> On a Minecraft server 1.8.8 that is :)
20:03 < rom1504> yes
20:04 < Timelaw> rom1504: I've struggling understanding what the structure should be like, given that I should send the PublicKey and a Token. I have read http://wiki.vg/Protocol_Encryption but I'm just stuck
20:05 < Timelaw> rom1504: It says either I can do it by using the ASN.1 format or by converting it into a PEM by base64 encoding the key and wrapping it those strings. I just don't know where the token goes and whether there should be anything else in the packet?
20:11 < rom1504> which packet are you talking about ?
20:11 < rom1504> err nevermind
20:12 < rom1504> you need to encrypt/decrypt all packets
20:13 < rom1504> the whole packets
20:13 < rom1504> and you need to look at http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Encryption_Request
20:14 < Timelaw> rom1504: I have looked at it.
20:15 < rom1504> are you doing a server or a client ?
20:15 < Timelaw> rom1504: The server
20:15 < Timelaw> rom1504: So, I read the server ID is in fact an empty string. How do I represent that in a binary? I am using Erlang
20:16 < Timelaw> rom1504: Am I just supposed to not include it? Meaning the package starts with the length of the whole package followed directly by the length of the key, the key itself, and then the length of the token and the token itself?
20:17 < rom1504> http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Data_types
20:17 < rom1504> "UTF-8 string prefixed with its size in bytes as a VarInt"
20:17 < Timelaw> rom1504: Meaning, since the page says the string is empty, I will just have another VarInt saying 0?
20:18 < Timelaw> [TOTAL LENGTH, VarInt_StringLength = 0, VarInt_KeyLength, Key, VarInt_TokenLength, Token]
20:18 < rom1504> hmm probably
20:20 < Timelaw> rom1504: Okey, so I will try to do it with the PEM-version, as I don't understand what the ASN.1 means anyway..
21:28 < Aikar> why do bats favor south east direction? 
21:28 < Aikar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqs5xLUyTEc&feature=youtu.be&t=7m15s
21:28 <+SinZ> its minecraft
21:28 <+SinZ> gotta have a directional preference
21:28  * SinZ looks at old minecart logic
21:45 <+Thinkofdeath> Aikar: because the target is calculated as: x + this.random.nextInt(7) - this.random.nextInt(7), z + this.random.nextInt(7) - this.random.nextInt(7)
21:45 <+Thinkofdeath> which is going to be mostly positive and rarely negative
21:46 <+Thinkofdeath> should be nextInt(14) - 7, I think
21:46 <+Thinkofdeath> otherwise its biased
21:50 < Aikar> ... well then 
21:50 < Aikar> should be easy to fix then
21:54 <+Thinkofdeath> actually testing it shows that its fine actually
21:54 <+Thinkofdeath> I was wrong
21:54 <+Thinkofdeath> or my testing is wrong 
21:54 < Aikar> well your suggestion would give it an equal chance of random distribution, by relying on 1 random instead of 2
21:56 <+Thinkofdeath> Aikar: http://ideone.com/psUKSo 
21:56 < Aikar> interesting site
21:57 <+Thinkofdeath> hmm one thing I didn't test was the average
21:57  * Thinkofdeath tests
21:57 < Aikar> err
21:57 < Aikar> you used same seed
21:57 < Aikar> might skew results
21:57 <+Thinkofdeath> trying to keep both fair
21:57 < Aikar> diff seed still seems same though
21:58 < Gjum> unless java is doing something funky, rand(7) - rand(7) should bias towards 0, but be equally pos/neg
22:00 <+Thinkofdeath> yeah seems like that. 
22:00  * Thinkofdeath was wrong
22:01 < Aikar> testing for > 3, < -3 seems to bias negative
22:06 <+Thinkofdeath> Aikar: can't really see anything in the bat's code that would give them that kind of bias 
22:06 < Aikar> http://ideone.com/15H5e0
22:07 < Aikar> ... err
22:07 < Gjum> Aikar, that should be < -1
22:07 < Aikar> i see my bug
22:07 < Gjum> ^^
22:08 < Aikar> http://ideone.com/15H5e0  yeah it is showing bias to 0 on current imp
22:08 < Aikar> but is equal for non zero
22:41 < Not-2be> [PyNBT] TkTech pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/vCvfQ
22:41 < Not-2be> [PyNBT] orthographic-pedant 4104be5 - Fix typographical error(s) Changed convienient to convenient in README.
22:41 < Not-2be> [PyNBT] TkTech b1599f9 - Merge pull request #9 from orthographic-pedant/spell_check/convenient Fix typographical error(s)
23:29 < rom1504> hmm hmm 15w41b changes the protocol
23:35 < rom1504> https://gist.github.com/rom1504/f30d0cd18d4fb39d1515/revisions
23:38 < rom1504> a new packet got inserted at 0x3a
23:40 < rom1504> *inserted* is annoying
23:44 < Fenhl> very
23:45 < Fenhl> for the 1.10 [[Pre-release protocol]] I'm just not going to bother documenting packets where only the ID changed
23:45 < Fenhl> except in the TOC
23:46 < rom1504> "1.10" ?
23:46 < rom1504> ah
23:46 < rom1504> 1.9 -> 1.10
23:47 < rom1504> yeah that makes senses
23:47 < rom1504> it's already almost the case for the current [[Pre-release protocol]]
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01:13 < Fenhl> well the current version has sections for those packets, some having been cleaned up since being copied from [[Protocol]]
01:13 < Fenhl> which is the only reason I'm not removing them immediately
02:57 < Aikar> Grum: :D I found a clean as hell solution to the .removeAll issue, https://gist.github.com/aikar/9d98524fa91980a6fae9
02:58 < Aikar> also - theres currently an ArrayList on the World that holds ALL tile entities..... thats unused. Why? That was adding to the Tile Entity .removeall cost as its .removeAll was even more expensive, added onto the tickable list
03:54 < Aikar> comes out to about 5ns per entry in list for cost with 10-15% of the list being removed, cheaper with the lower the removal. and only 7ns per entry even at 65% removal. aka, problem solved
20:23 < barneygale> "Looking for old natives to clean up" I always knew Mojang were crypto-imperialists
20:27 < rom1504> :D
20:27 < redstonehelper> hah
23:16 < rom1504> someone ever had the vanilla client disconnect because you were sending too many chunks to him ?
23:16 < rom1504> I'm not sure why this happen at all
23:32 < Fenhl> rom1504: http://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-89127 maybe?
23:32 < Fenhl> aka https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-87041
23:42 < rom1504> hmm I meant 1.8 + a custom server
23:42 < rom1504> I'm not getting any exception or error from the vanilla client
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00:09 < rom1504> does the vanilla client expect chunks to be send in "reasonable amount during a given time" ?
00:10 < rom1504> ah maybe it's just keepalive...
00:10 < angal> Maybe ping timeout?
00:10 < rom1504> yeah I guess
00:10 < rom1504> doesn't the vanilla client says something when that happens though ?
00:11 < rom1504> (not just "disconnected" ?)
00:11 < angal> For me helps sending 1 kepalive at begining of loading world.
00:12 < angal> Hm... 'Disconected' more looks like server closed connection. Maybe he didn't get keepalive in time and terminate connection?
00:15 < rom1504> yeah.... it was the problem
00:16 < rom1504> my server was set to a 10s timeout
04:50 < Pangea_> why do some servers send a packet with ident of 266
09:12 < Aikar> oh Grum / Dinnerbone - I reported this on tracker but nothings happened - world gen has a bug for monuments using the wrong method for biome detection. when working on a pre 1.8 world, its popping up biomes in places that would be deep ocean in 1.8... ignoring what the biome actually is. https://bitbucket.org/starlis/empirecraft/src/12e1cb1bb0ce84f007468f5fe7309a814adef8f0/patches/craftbukkit/0090-Fix-Monument-Spawning-Behavior.patch?at=master&fileviewer=file-v
09:12 < Aikar> iew-default     -also, not sure why the hell those river biomes were there? I just tweaked that for my own desire.    - https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-65214
12:22 <+Thinkofdeath> Aikar: just a note, this isn't a 'report to mojang' channel :P they just hang out here
12:22 <+Thinkofdeath> and tend to put the channel on ignore if we bug them
12:40 < rom1504> anyone knows if using http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Map_Chunk_Bulk really improves speed ? I'm currently not using it and wondering whether I should since it's going to get removed in 1.9
13:02 < Fenhl> iirc they removed it because the speedup wasn't worth it
13:16 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/vCqWJ
13:16 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] luken 3cec1e8 - make python2 produce a float result from division rather than an int
13:16 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 5c7bdd2 - Merge pull request #178 from luken/fix-collision-python2-divide
13:57 < rom1504> yeah ok I guess I won't use it then
15:23 <+XorBoole> Thinkofdeath but then how are we supposed to get the devs to fix their game?!
15:24 <+XorBoole> must we send them bug reports on the backs of argonian concubines?
15:47 <+SinZ> we had that problem in the dota modding community
15:47 <+SinZ> we dont have valve people join us anymore
21:52 < rom1504> how does the vanilla server generate uuid v3 in offline mode ?
21:58 < TkTech> rom1504 / Gjum: #mcc (esper) created wiki.vg, #mcc later migrated to freenode and later renamed to #mcdevs
21:59 < TkTech> #mcc is where the "Coalition" bit comes in from the old name, but the groups are still all one and the same.
22:01 <+Thinkofdeath> rom1504: UUID.nameUUIDFromBytes(("OfflinePlayer:" + gameprofile.getName()).getBytes(Charsets.UTF_8));
22:02 < rom1504> ok thanks
22:11 < gamingrobot> TkTech: jw are you the same person that does eve stuff?
22:12 < TkTech> Stallkeeeeeer
22:13 < TkTech> Yes, but only if you're not trying to steal my Levi.
22:14 < TkTech> gamingrobot, Are you in alliance or just on tweetfleet?
22:15 < gamingrobot> in an alliance?
22:17 < Byteflux> Nice, EVE players in here? :)
22:18 < gamingrobot> apparently
22:21 < TkTech> Tons, last time I asked around there were two or three dozen
22:21 < Byteflux> Oh nice, might have to dust off my 3x ~100 mil SP pilots. Haven't played seriously in a couple years, but have kept my training up :P
22:22 < gamingrobot> wormholes best space :P
22:23 < TkTech> Only three? Dirty casual.
22:24 < Byteflux> Haha
22:24 < TkTech> gamingrobot, How do you know my nick?
22:26  * Byteflux is a spy with 24/7 eyes on TkTech's levi, waiting for him to screw up
22:26 < TkTech> Levi gets tackled it just lights a cyno for more levis
22:26 < Byteflux> I know your home system, you can't hide.
22:26 < TkTech> Vicious cycle
22:26 < Byteflux> lol
22:27 < Byteflux> Is a cyno actually standard on a Titan build? lol
22:27 < TkTech> Fitted? Only when you're YOLO'ing. But you always have several in your hold.
22:28 < TkTech> Anchor some depots, use the SMA, use a carrier/supercarrier, drop a panic nestor
22:28 < gamingrobot> TkTech: tweetfleet
22:29 < Byteflux> Last I played, CFC was on the verge of galatic domination. I wonder what it's like now.
22:29 < Byteflux> galactic*
22:33 < Guest49803> the first byte that the official client sends to my server is 0x0f, which doesn't seem to jibe with the protocol description up on wiki.vg. am i going insane?
22:34 < Guest49803> or is the wiki not up to date w/ 1.8.8
22:35 < TkTech> Guest49803, You're reading the length prefix correctly?
22:51 < Guest49803> hm, always thought the first byte was the packet id
22:52 < Guest49803> so first 16 bits(unsigned) are the length?
22:52 < Guest49803> (in bytes?)
22:53 < angal> First VarInt is length.
22:53 < Guest49803> oh dang, so 4bytes for len, and another 4 for id ya?
22:54 < Guest49803> signed too
22:55 < angal> Nope. First VarInt for length, and another one for id.
22:58  * Guest49803 reads varInt spec, slaps forehead
22:58 < Guest49803> tks
23:32 < Pangea_> is it possible to get the protocol for the snapshots?
23:42 < angal> You about this? http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol
23:44 < Pangea_> ah yes, thanks angal
23:44 < Pangea_> except that seems to be one snapshot behind.. :/
23:44 < Pangea_> how would I update it myself
23:47 < nickelpro> It's a wiki, create a wiki and click edit
23:47 < nickelpro> create an account**
23:47 < nickelpro> But my understanding was the lastesr prelease didn't rev the protocol
23:47 < Pangea_> no, I know how to edit the wiki
23:48 < Pangea_> but how would I figure out the protocol changes
23:48 < nickelpro> Decompile the jar
23:48 < Pangea_> alright
23:48 < Pangea_> I guess I'll just muck around with it then :P
23:49 < Pangea_> unicode snowmen ^_^
23:50 < Pangea_> nickelpro, where might I look in the jar though?
23:59 < Pangea_> nickelpro?
23:59 < gamingrobot> Pangea_: its kinda all over
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00:00 < Pangea_> then how should I best go about it?
00:06 < Pangea_> gamingrobot?
00:06 < gamingrobot> not sure, I have only had to look at it for physics and book plugin channels
00:16 < Pangea_> darn
00:16 < rom1504> nickelpro: the last snapshot changed the protocol actually
00:16 < rom1504> it inserted packets in the middle and other fun things
00:19 < Pangea_> yeah
00:19 < Pangea_> and there's Eyltra flight, so I think that probably has new stuff
00:24 < TobiX> Wasn't there a tool to decode the communication classes once?
00:32 < rom1504> burger
00:34 < TobiX> Yeah, was it ever updated after the Netty rewrite?
00:35 < Pangea_> I think it is
00:35 < Pangea_> wait, no
00:35 < Pangea_> guess not
00:35 < Pangea_> http://b.wiki.vg/
00:36 < rom1504> https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/blob/1.8/tools/js/decompiled_extractor/protocol_extractor.js that's a basic extractor
00:43 < rom1504> el.java give you the packet list
02:51 < Fenhl> who runs burger anyway
02:51 < Fenhl> or ran
02:52 < Gjum> Fenhl, TkTech I think
03:07 < redstonehelper> Fenhl: might have been sadimusi
16:48 < tehme> hey
19:45 < Aikar> Live Streaming coding @ http://hitbox.tv/aikar - Continueing work on the system I was doing last night if anyones interested :)
19:49 < SopaXT> Hi!
19:49 < SopaXT> I have an idea: the yet first parental control for Minecraft.
19:50 < SopaXT> It would work as a proxy, and it would basically filter out words from a wordlist from chat message packets
19:51 < tehme> fcuk yuo
19:51 < SopaXT> tehme, are you a kid?
19:52 < SopaXT> This is just an idea, what's wrong?
19:52 < tehme> SopaXT: nope, just showing the basic pass-by case
19:52 < SopaXT> tehme, ah I get it :D
19:52 < SopaXT> tehme, it would install a driver, if the admin password is set correctly, it will be fine
19:53 < SopaXT> wordlist will consist of word-replacement entries
19:54 < tehme> wordlist is the trickiest part
19:54 < SopaXT> tehme, it would need some research
19:54 < SopaXT> e.g. strip each word to verify that it is not masked
19:55 < rom1504> just do a white list
19:55 < SopaXT> f c u!k = fcuk = in wordlist
19:55 < rom1504> :)
19:55 < tehme> I suggest you to start with wordlist sketch app
19:55 < tehme> because without it everything else is useless
19:55 < SopaXT> rom1504, Let's {badword} a {badword}
19:55 < rom1504> have a list of things people are allowed to say, filter the rest :p
19:56 < tehme> what about cyrillic replacements in words?
19:56 < angal-> :)
19:56 < SopaXT> It should be very wide then
19:56 < SopaXT> tehme, and other languages? :/
19:56 < rom1504> why ? you want to censor people, why not go the whole way
19:56 < tehme> SopaXT: yep
19:57 < tehme> rom1504: are you a swearing-lover?:)
19:57 < rom1504> people will always be able to bypass a black list
19:57 < tehme> exactly
19:58 < tehme> even with white list
19:58 < rom1504> also I'm pretty sure you can hurt people a lot more without saying any bad words
19:58 < SopaXT> Whitelist will be great
19:58 < SopaXT> Let's have both
19:59 < tehme> funny uncle Court Kevin
19:59 < SopaXT> The word will be analyzed by an algorithm for notmalizing obfuscation
19:59 < SopaXT> *normalizing
20:00 < SopaXT> deobf('|= \_\ K C') = F U K C -> match
20:01 < tehme> oh
20:01 < tehme> do you imagine how much work will it take?
20:01 < SopaXT> tehme, sure
20:02 < SopaXT> Also, we can apply this to other chat-able games!
20:02 < SopaXT> MiTM https and MC proto encryption!
20:02 < tehme> I like your enthusiasm
20:03 < SopaXT> This is just an idea
20:04 < SopaXT> (for a startup)
20:06 < tehme> Aikar: it doesn't load
20:07 < Aikar> tehme: try diff browser, seems to work for people
20:08 < tehme> I don't receive health updates from server. Why does it happen?
20:11 < tehme> Aikar: java server:) is it slow?
20:12 < Aikar> java server? It's mc O.o
20:12 < Aikar> of course its java lol
20:12  * Aikar checks the channel im in
20:13 < tehme> I'm a tv star!
20:13 < Fenhl> tehme: iirc health updates have something to do with update packets
20:14 < Fenhl> are you sending one of Player, Player Position, Player Look, or Player Position And Look every tick?
20:15 < Fenhl> btw this should be documented in [[Protocol FAQ]], it seems to come up often enough
20:15 < tehme> Fenhl: I send it every second. Will try every tick.
20:16 < tehme> Fenhl: there was something about that, but it seems it is no more there
20:16 < tehme> Aikar: java server!
20:20 < tehme> Fenhl: has my tick timer to be sync'd with server's timer?
20:20 < Fenhl> idk
20:27 < tehme> it didn't help
20:40 < tehme> I want to add following to Player position and look (clientbound) packet description
20:40 < tehme> When logging in, this packet initializes player's position and makes them leave loading screen.
20:40 < tehme> is it true?
20:40 < tehme> I see the packets log and this one comes earlier than map chunks
20:41 < tehme> but protocolfaq says "After sending the common-sense packets (Handshake, Login Start, inventory, compass, and chunks), you need to finally send the player their initial position for them to leave the “Loading Map” screen. "
20:41 < tehme> with link to this packet
21:04 < angal-> You can send player location before loading world, but this may couse player to fall througt blocks and lag. So it is recomended to load world before (at least player's chunks).
21:14 < tehme> why don't mojang guys follow this recommendation?:)
21:29 < tehme> Fenhl: I got my health update when I sent player position and look packet
21:29 < tehme> for some reason server didn't like player packet
21:52 < tehme> anyone here? I can't edit page http://wiki.vg/Protocol_FAQ , is here anyone who can do it?
22:07 < rom1504> tehme: what are you doing exactly ? a client ?
22:08 < rom1504> what's the error ? what langage ? any other info ?
22:09 < rom1504> ah edit the page
22:09 < rom1504> yes you can edit the page
22:09 < rom1504> create an account
22:13 < tehme> rom1504: I have an account, but I was not able to edit that page because I'm not a member of 'users' group. It is not an error, rather a note. Server sends health updates if client sends player position. I did not receive any health updates when I sent "player" packets (0x03 serverbound), but I did get them with player position and look (0x06 serverbound)
22:15 < tehme> Maybe first one to send must be 0x06 and others can be 0x03, I didn't test it.
22:15 < tehme> Server version is 1.8.8
22:18 < rom1504> well yeah you need to send position and look
22:18 < tehme> but it is not said anywhere
22:18 < tehme> can you add it to protocol faq?
22:21 < barneygale_> I found that sending "player" every tick, and "player position" every 20 ticks works well
22:21 < barneygale_> every 20th tick you send both
22:22 < tehme> barneygale_: did you test intensive health changes? will health update come after "player" or after pos/look only?
22:22 < barneygale_> I didn't test that I'm afraid
22:22 < barneygale_> I know that if I didn't send enough position updates, I'd get lagged chat from the server
22:23 < tehme> mojang
22:23 < tehme> as if keep-alive is not enough
22:23 < Pangea> is there an alternative to bruger for post-netty versions?
22:23 < Pangea> burger*
22:24 < rom1504> Pangea: to get the packets+fields ? just the ids ?
22:24 < Pangea> yeah
22:24 < rom1504> no that's not a correct answer ^^
22:24 < tehme> what kind of yeah?
22:24 < rom1504> the packets+fields or the ids ?
22:25 < tehme> rom1504: yeah
22:25 < Pangea> lol
22:25 < Pangea> packets+fields
22:25 < rom1504> ok, no
22:25 < Pangea> ids might work too actually
22:25 < Pangea> rom1504
22:26 < rom1504> https://github.com/barneygale/MinecraftPacketNames/blob/master/packets.json
22:26 < rom1504> ah no
22:26 < rom1504> from the .jar, not the wiki
22:26 < rom1504> https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/blob/1.8/tools/js/decompiled_extractor/protocol_extractor.js that give you the classname<->id
22:27 < tehme> wow, nice one, but why are they without fields?
22:27 < Pangea> how would I use the prismarine one rom1504
22:27 < rom1504> https://gist.github.com/rom1504/f30d0cd18d4fb39d1515 for 15w41b
22:27 < Pangea> ooh
22:27 < Pangea> awesome, that one looks useful
22:27 < Pangea> how'd you generate that
22:27 < rom1504> (that's the result of the "prismarine one")
22:28 < rom1504> you run decompiled_extractor/protocol_extractor.js
22:28 < rom1504> well first get the .jar, then use a decompiler, for example fernflower
22:28 < Pangea> jd-gui?
22:28 < rom1504> then you use that .js script
22:28 < Pangea> how would I use the script?
22:28 < Pangea> I give it the source folder?
22:28 < rom1504> tehme: because getting fields is harder
22:29 < rom1504> yes node protocol_extractor.js decompiled_source_folder/
22:29 < tehme> and is that decompiling legal?
22:29 < Pangea> yeah
22:29 < Pangea> it's obfuscated anyways
22:29 < tehme> what if angry microsoft guys come for that script's author?
22:29 < Pangea> unicode snowmen everywhere
22:29 < rom1504> the fields generated are just an indication though, they are not at all complete
22:30 < rom1504> the classname<->id is 100% correct though
22:30 < rom1504> so you can look at the .java file and figure things out manually
22:31 < rom1504> that's mainly useful to update stuff to the last snapshot though ;) for older things (1.8 and 15w40b), use the already done doc
22:40 < Pangea> Where's the public log for this channel
23:30 < rom1504> not public
23:44 < nickelpro> netsplit? WhatYearIsIt.jpg
23:47 < rom1504> this is the year everything_is_centralized
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00:02 < tehme> oh yeah compression is done
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12:36 < Timelaw> ~/quit
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11:17 < ScruffyRules> Does anyone know if xPaw's PHP Minecraft Query works for 1.9?
11:32 <+SinZ> does it work in 1.8?
19:25 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±14] http://git.io/vCBGe
19:25 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 7359f06 - Docs all over the place
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19:43 <+Grum> Aikar: not really getting the 'tickPosition' part of your change
19:44 <+Grum> <+Thinkofdeath> and tend to put the channel on ignore if we bug them <-- defo not how that works for me
20:07 <+Thinkofdeath> Grum: ah, I remember DB did that in the past (years ago). Assumed it extended to you
20:08 < Aikar> Grum, ignore that, its part of CB/Spigot stuff, so drop all the parts relating to modifiyng tick position
20:08 < Aikar> just need the compaction part
20:09 < Aikar> CB did an indexed based loop instead of an iterator for some reason a long time ago, then spigot has changed some things relating to that
20:10 <+Thinkofdeath> concurrent modification when removing during ticking (e.g. caused by a plugin in an event)
20:11 < Aikar> but, loop through removal list, marking objects to be removed, then loop through the source list, skipping anything marked for removal, then use sublist.remove() to clear any remaining on the backing list
20:11 < Aikar> i did the interface approach so it wouldnt need diff boolean checks per item type, and flexible to be used on any object
20:12 < Aikar> but only valid for identity based equality like entities/tileentities are
20:12 < Aikar> otherwise creating a hashset then excluding items in the hashSet would work, but thats slower than this approach
20:13 <+Grum> creating a hashset is expensive
20:13 < Aikar> yeah but not as expensive as the default ArrayList.removeAll
20:13 < Aikar> still scales better than that
20:14 <+Grum> massive GC pressure though
20:14 < Aikar> yah, im not saying to do that to solve this problem :P just saying if there was another list using .removeall(which there isnt in 1.8 at least), that NEEDED object equality based removal, then you would need to fall back to that
20:15 < Aikar> but for E/TE, identity based works
20:15 < Aikar> set a boolean, check a boolean
20:16 < Aikar> as i said the other day, performance on my desktop scaled about 3-8ns per entry in list removing up to 50%, so even a 50k list wouldnt take much time at all
20:17 < Aikar> where as benchmarking even a small list using the current .removeAll imp, man it took so long to run
20:18 < Aikar> ive been running this in production for a few days now. had no tps issues all weekend finally..
20:20 < Aikar> I have a feeling some players have mnecart tracks being used for their farm, thats spam load/unloading a chunk with a ton of tile entities
20:25 < Aikar> http://timings.aikar.co/dev/?id=483823031dc14929a1b892b4c0cea309&start=1444672766&end=1444673963  tile entities rise, lag rises...
20:34 <+Amaranth> Aikar: Not unless you guys changed that boolean in ChunkProviderServer back to true
20:34 <+Amaranth> If that's false only players and bugs in the code can load chunks, not redstone and minecarts
20:35 <+Amaranth> iirc that thing used to always be false except during worldgen then 1.5 made it always true but we had some bugs that caused excessive chunk loading and had no chunk GC or time to figure out why so put it back to false
20:35 <+Amaranth> Don't think anyone every went back over it
20:36 < Aikar> Amaranth, i meant player moving in and out loading the chunk into their client
20:36 < Aikar> based on their view distance
20:36 <+Amaranth> Oh, they're in the minecart
20:36 < Aikar> yeah its common to ride minecarts to 'activate' all parts of a large farm, or get things like pigmen chasing you
20:37 < Aikar> and im assuming theres some chunk right at the edge of the view-distance that keeps loading/unloading
20:37 < Aikar> with lots of TE's
20:39 < Aikar> guess could store last unload and if reloaded quickly after, add a +15s delay that builds up the more the chunks spammed
20:39 < Aikar> and delay the unload
20:39 < Aikar> if done right, could have good benefits all around
20:39 < Aikar> and having the chunks loaded an extra 15-30s isnt really going to kill performance
21:15 <+Amaranth> Aikar: Just wait 15-30 seconds for all unloads then :P
22:18 < tehme> Hello. Any admins here?
22:49 < rom1504> tehme: you mean ops ? yeah there are some
22:49 < nickelpro> tehme: what do you need an op for?
23:34 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±8] http://git.io/vCRzO
23:34 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 264fde4 - Use mcdata.constants.INTERACT_ENTITY_AT in mcp
23:34 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum e54f9c7 - Refactor TaskManagerTest
23:34 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum ebfb50a - Add Task.tasktrace property method
23:34 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro 9294a62 - Merge pull request #190 from Gjum/improvements
23:37 < Not-7330> [mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] http://git.io/vCRg4
23:37 < Not-7330> [mineflayer] rom1504 3dbc1cf - add simple example to run multiple bots
23:49 < tehme> rom1504: nickelpro: I need them to unban my other account
23:50 < tehme> I feel uncomfortable about being here while banned
23:50 < nickelpro> We do nick bans?
23:50 < nickelpro> TkTech: ^
23:51 < tehme> it was my old ip address
23:53 < nickelpro> What was your ban for?
23:53 < tehme> for saying that I stole a thing in minecraft
23:53 < Gjum> he stol my dimonds!!
23:54 < nickelpro> Dimenz
23:55 < nickelpro> Short of being outstandingly obnoxious or outright criminal behavior (real world, not virtual lego criminal) the ops don't really ban here. So which were you or are you sure it was even mcdevs that banned you?
23:57 < tehme> > /mode #mcdevs +b
23:57 < tehme> *!~tehme@ip123-187.telenet.dn.ua
23:57 < tehme> :(
23:59 < tehme> I was neither of those, I think
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01:28 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 3 commits to master [+4/-4/±22] http://git.io/vCRbf
01:28 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 0ca2aa8 - Move constants mcp->mcdata
01:28 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 89eb3eb - Fix imports
01:28 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 5ba3c76 - Merge pull request #191 from gamingrobot/consts
02:52 <+SinZ> nickelpro: its an old ban, he was still banned dec 29 2013 when he came on in the past with that ban mask still in place
02:52 < nickelpro> Wow jesus
02:53 <+SinZ> old enough I dont have logs anymore of the actual ban taking place, only me telling him at that date he was banned
02:53 <+SinZ> and people not even remembering why the ban took place
02:54 < nickelpro> SinZ: Old and obscure enough to cut the guy a break?
02:54 <+SinZ> http://pastebin.com/krYDsZc1
02:55 < nickelpro> Lol well nevermind then
02:56 <+SinZ> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=99u6cGiW
02:56 < nickelpro> AndrewPH: Enlighten us on that little piece of mcdevs history?
02:56 < nickelpro> Hehe
02:58 <+SinZ> oh found it happening in my logs
02:58 <+SinZ> pirate and proud
02:59 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/vC0Oi
02:59 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 0300438 - Rename entity spawn events, add missing events
02:59 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro c01b929 - Merge pull request #193 from Gjum/entity-spawn-events
03:00 <+SinZ> nickelpro: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zX0PsFrH
03:00 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] nickelpro pushed 8 commits to master [+4/-4/±20] http://git.io/vC0Ox
03:00 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 0fccc3e - fixup! Use spockbot.mcdata.items in Slot
03:01 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 86d7902 - Rename timer module+classes to timers
03:01 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] Gjum 3e0bbf3 - Add craft to default_plugins
03:01 < Not-f7bb> [SpockBot] ... and 5 more commits.
03:01 <+SinZ> so a griefer and (proud) pirate
03:03 < nickelpro> That settles it then, thanks SinZ
03:13 < Aikar> :o there is an obvious bias against the hackers movie with that ZeroCool ban!
04:14 <+AndrewPH> nickelpro: implying I remember anything about that kid
04:25 <+SinZ> the name ringed a bell and thats it for me, so I went log diving
11:32 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 2 commits to 1.8 [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/vCEbs
11:32 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] phase ca63586 - Add link to PhaseBot
11:32 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 a94a15b - Merge pull request #74 from phase/patch-1 Add link to PhaseBot
11:35 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to 1.9 [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vCEAY
11:35 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] phase 4e1d144 - Add link to PhaseBot
17:27 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to 1.8 [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/vCz7X
17:27 < Not-f7bb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 9ae2d01 - update spockbot data usage