11:58 <+ammar2> I meant to fix that
11:58 <+ammar2> could you give me some examples
11:59 <+ammar2> parsing the wiki table isn't fun at all
12:09 < morfin> is that versions of protocol?
12:10 <+ammar2> yeah
12:10 <+ammar2> packet names for any versions of the protocol listed on the protocol history page
12:12 < morfin> i am looking at world generation and it seems to be most complicated part
12:14 <+ammar2> idk man its pretty simple, if y==1 set to bedrock, if y==2 set to grass :^)
12:15 < morfin> no i meant generation using simplex noise and chunk boundaries 
12:15 < morfin> because i don't just generate terrain using Perlin/Simple noise but also generate caves, underground lakes(of water and lava), trees, minecraft,ravins, villages, citadels and other things)
12:16 < morfin> but i have no idea how Netherworld is generated: it's like one huge cave between 2 layers of bedrock on top and bottom of world
12:43 < morfin> interesting is that just huge  worms making wormholes through netherrack 
12:47 < rom1504> ender dragons makes pretty interesting wormholes too :P
12:48 < rom1504> (/summon EnderDragon)
13:18 < barneygale> ammar2, some code here: https://github.com/barneygale/quarry/blob/develop/quarry/data/packets_generator.py
13:19 < barneygale> That only picks up post-netty protocols, as I don't need pre-netty for my purposes
13:21 <+ammar2> with pre netty its easier to scrape the table of contents since it has all the IDs and names right in there
13:22 <+ammar2> but thanks, I'll take a look at yours and improve my shitty version
13:23 < barneygale> yeah no worries
13:24 < barneygale> mine is pretty hacky too :)
15:06 < morfin> i remember when i installed server and plugin to respawn enderdragon
15:06 < morfin> i killed first, but second teleported out of enderworld to spawn :D:D
15:07 < morfin> it was like "holy shit what Enderdragon is doing at spawn 
15:11 < morfin> teleport from enderworld seems to being able teleport any entity(primed TNT,endermans, falling sand/gravel) to the spawn
15:38 < morfin> does protection affect enderdragon?
16:35 < Voltasalt> Is there anything else I have to do to enable creative on the client? I've sent game mode change and a player abilities with creative = true
16:35 < Voltasalt> not working
16:35 < johni0702> not sure but the tablist entry packet also contains the gamemode, maybe it's required as well
16:36 < Voltasalt> could be, i'll try
16:38 < Voltasalt> nope, still not working
16:40 < Voltasalt> oh
16:40 < Voltasalt> i'm a dumb
16:41 < Voltasalt> forgot to call setGameMode entirely
16:41 < Voltasalt> lel
16:41 < Voltasalt> my fly speed is ridiculously high though, but I'm sending 1
16:41 < johni0702> the default is 0.1
16:42 < Voltasalt> oh
16:42 < Voltasalt> derp
16:44 < Voltasalt> why is my FoV zoomed in now, dafuqw
16:45 < johni0702> maybe the walk speed, default is 0.2 iirc
16:45 < Voltasalt> wtf mojang
16:47 < barneygale> Voltasalt, old news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyed2yMZqO0 ;)
18:28 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±2] http://git.io/vOQaO
18:28 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor 4461904 - The most impractical sword ever.
19:43 < DylanBytes>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER DylanBytes asvuchfggoow
19:43 < DylanBytes> shoot
22:11 < yawkat> lol
22:32  * XorBoole pets yawkat 
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07:39 < Fenhl> is 15w32b still protocol 52?
13:34 < Voltasalt> "At long last, our Particles are no longer Entities. Basically means they're not memory hogs anymore!"
13:34 < Voltasalt> ooh
15:02 < SeanBisEpic> Voltasalt, it's as if everything was once coded as Minions... Oh wait wrong game.
15:02 < Voltasalt> wat?
15:02 < SeanBisEpic> https://www.google.com/search?q=league+of+legends+coded+as+minions
15:03 < Voltasalt> oh
15:03 < SeanBisEpic> Just about everything is coded as a minion...
15:03 < SeanBisEpic> Just like how Minecraft everything is coded as an entity or a block.
15:03 < Voltasalt> Which is worse? Riot or Mojang?
15:04 < Voltasalt> to be fair, Entity is a very broad term whilst Minion isn't
15:04 < SeanBisEpic> Riot has billions of dollars, and won't recode their client.
15:04 < Voltasalt> well, do they need to?
15:04 < SeanBisEpic> Yes, most definitely. Seeing as every 10 patches or so, an old bug reappears.
15:05 < SeanBisEpic> So either they're absolute shit at revision control, or they're their own flaw.
15:06 < SeanBisEpic> Technically Entitites = Minions in League
15:06 < SeanBisEpic> Since every single thing that emits, affects, or effects anything, is coded as... you guessed it. A minion.
15:12 <+ammar2> revision control or regression testing?
15:19 < SeanBisEpic> Completely irrelevant changes to the game brought back issues that should have been patched weeks ago. I fail to understand where one figures either aren't nearly as important.
15:19 < SeanBisEpic> But /on-topic now.
15:20 < SeanBisEpic> >4000 particle limit may sound interesting.
17:38 <+Amaranth> Coding everything as an entity is pretty normal in gamedev
17:38 <+Amaranth> Unless you've got issues with that system why bother with anything more complicated?
17:38 <+ammar2> well not each individual particle effect
17:39 <+ammar2> overhead etc
17:39 <+ammar2> like I'd understand a fire effect entity
17:39 <+XorBoole> but parrrrrtiles!
17:39 <+ammar2> but if each little fire effect has its own entity
17:39 <+ammar2> it kinda gets heavy 
17:39 <+XorBoole> yeah the current system was notchcode
17:39 <+XorBoole> good thing that it got optimized away
17:40 <+ammar2> now we just need to optimize XorBoole away from here
17:40 <+XorBoole> particles aren't on the level of a minecraft entity, they don't carry data and have no behavior other than existing
17:40 <+Amaranth> That reminds me, Dota 2 has this fun bug where if a game runs too long the engine runs out of ids for particles and starts reusing old ones
17:40 <+ammar2> that sounds like fun
17:40 <+XorBoole> ammar2 I am proveably an essential singularity of the channel
17:40 <+Amaranth> So casting a spell will throw out running spirit breakers instead of electric sparks
17:41 <+ammar2> don't entity systems usually use a 64bit int though?
17:41 <+ammar2> that seems hard to deplete
17:41 <+ammar2> oh wait no
17:41 <+ammar2> wait I'm not sure
17:41 <+ammar2> source games are usually 32 bit
17:41 <+XorBoole> boom
17:42 <+Amaranth> Source is probably 15 years old
17:42 <+Amaranth> 11 years since the first game using it was released
17:42 <+XorBoole> /I/ feel old
17:43 <+ammar2> you are old
17:43 <+XorBoole> you're probably older though
17:45 <+ammar2> Amaranth: that bug sounds really weird, as far as I can tell from these source dev wiki pages particles don't have unique identifiers
17:45 <+Amaranth> *shrug*
17:45 <+Amaranth> That was just the way it was described to me
17:45 <+Amaranth> I've never even seen the bug
17:46 <+ammar2> oh man north korea is getting their own time zone
17:46 <+ammar2> and its one of those fun +-30 minute ones
17:46 <+ammar2> I wonder what its like being a maintainer on a time library
17:46 <+Amaranth> Yay now we can hate them even more
17:46 <+XorBoole> who'd they have to bribe for that
17:47 <+AndrewPH> ammar2: source2 is 64bit !
17:47 <+AndrewPH> or, can be. I can't remember which one it is
17:47 <+XorBoole> "fuk u south korea, we're going to have our own timezone!"
17:47 <+Amaranth> Honestly I don't see why you'd bother with 32-bit if you're working on an engine today
17:47 <+ammar2> AndrewPH: yeah, but you can have 64bit integers on either architecture which is why I was confused
17:47 <+XorBoole> and now everyone in the DMZ is going to be very confused
17:48 <+ammar2> but it wouldn't make sense to use 64bit ints when the engine was made
17:48 <+ammar2> so idk
17:49 <+XorBoole> you know what's fun?
17:49 <+XorBoole> longs and doubles in jvm bytecode
17:49 <+AndrewPH> Amaranth: newer games that have been 64-bit only have gotten some backlash from people that, for some godforsaken reason, are still running 32bit OSs in 2015
17:49 <+XorBoole> all this special bullshit handling because they're wider than everyone else
17:49 <+XorBoole> "there is no wide swap instruction"
17:49 <+XorBoole> u wat m8
17:50 <+XorBoole> AndrewPH ah yes, the people that deserve to be shot?
17:50 <+ammar2> Amaranth: oh looks like they do https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013/blob/55ed12f8d1eb6887d348be03aee5573d44177ffb/mp/src/public/toolframework/itoolframework.h#L120
17:50 <+AndrewPH> "y cant i run ark in my netbook it says it is not supported on this architexturez?!"
17:50 <+ammar2> err do have an id*
17:50 <+XorBoole> I really should get around to trying to run ark under wine
17:51 <+XorBoole> see if it melts my gpy
17:51 <+AndrewPH> XorBoole: hahahhahhahhahhahahh it's going to run at .5 fps
17:51 <+ammar2> and its a plain int
17:51 <+AndrewPH> that's only slightly slower than it does natively
17:51 <+XorBoole> AndrewPH I got heavily modded skyrim to run fine. *shrug*
17:51 <+ammar2> AndrewPH: don't you mean 2spf
17:51 <+ammar2> :^)
17:51 <+AndrewPH> yeah but relatively speaking, skyrim runs on a potato
17:52 <+ammar2> bethesda games may be buggy as fuck but yeah they generally run well
17:52 <+AndrewPH> afk playing watch dogs (horrendous vram swapping.jpeg)
17:52 <+AndrewPH> (thanks mr ubisoft skeltal)
17:53 <+ammar2> tank u mer ubiskele for good ram and calshium
17:54 <+XorBoole> praise calcium
17:55 <+ammar2> Amaranth: you win https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013/blob/55ed12f8d1eb6887d348be03aee5573d44177ffb/sp/src/game/client/particlemgr.h#L762
17:55 <+Amaranth> hehe
17:57 < Aikar> @mojang - something that would make tons of people happy - maybe add new chat colors for 1.9? would be nice
17:57 <+ammar2> @mojang? this isn't twitter m8
17:57 <+ammar2> get outta here
17:58  * Aikar stabs ammar2 
17:58 <+XorBoole> > @mojang
17:58 <+XorBoole> > implying that pings them
17:58 < Aikar> the intent was to not ping them...
17:58 < Aikar> silly
17:58 < Aikar> but to imply intent of message target
17:58 <+XorBoole> who cares you still pinged g***
17:59 <+XorBoole> at least, probably
17:59 < Aikar> his own fault if he has a triger for it and doesnt want to be pinged :P
18:01 <+ammar2> Amaranth: interestingly this is only really a problem in dota2 because it doesn't instantiate a new particlemgr per "game" since the "game" is always running in the background
18:01 <+ammar2> so in cs go for example once you load in it would make a new one
18:01 <+ammar2> so you would realistically never overflow it
18:01 <+Amaranth> Huh, I was told it was per game and the problem was just that games can last 90 minutes or more
18:02 <+Amaranth> And they're very heavy on particle effects
18:02 <+ammar2> I guess you could overflow it in a single game too
18:02 <+ammar2> yeah especailly because of that
18:02 <+ammar2> but dota2 definetly runs in the background which is why it consumes crazy resources when idle too
18:02 <+ammar2> crazy for simple menues that is
18:03 <+ammar2> do you know if its happened recently? I'd think they might have fixed that with the source2.0 rehaul and what not
18:17 <+Amaranth> ammar2: Source 2 fixes it
18:17 <+Amaranth> I mean, Reborn might not run in the background or whatever but apparently the engine doesn't work this way either
19:26 <+Grum> <+XorBoole> who cares you still pinged g*** <-- oh cmon XorBoole, you should know better by now
19:59 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±2] http://git.io/vOp3H
19:59 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor fac3ef2 - Golden rapiers for everyone!
20:04 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/vOpGa
20:04 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor 7096f98 - Tweak some display offsets.
20:04 <+XorBoole> Grum =<
21:08 < Aikar> Grum, you have a ping for g*** ? lol what about goat
21:09 <+ammar2> he has a ping for \**
21:14 <+XorBoole> Aikar I told you.
21:19 < Aikar> you told me what
21:19 < Aikar> that im beautiful? how sweet
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00:03 < rom1504> is there a list of the repo followed by Not-5015 ?
00:03 <+XorBoole> it's on tk's website
00:04 <+XorBoole> can't remember where exactly though
00:05 <+ammar2> XorBoole: it is?
00:05 <+ammar2> http://n.tkte.ch/s/networks/irc.freenode.net/
00:05 <+ammar2> but its not in any particular order
00:05 <+ammar2> so may be a pain
00:11 < Not-5015> [GitHub] It's not fully shipped until it's fast.
00:13 < rom1504> okay
02:16 < Fenhl> [[Pre-release protocol]] is still outdated
11:15 < Not-c389> [mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±44] http://git.io/v3eNP
11:15 < Not-c389> [mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath bccac8f - 15w32c
11:15 <+Thinkofdeath> Fenhl: should be fixed now, just a protocol version change
11:17 < Fenhl> Thinkofdeath: a version change with no actual changes to the protocol? So they removed particles as entities?
11:17 <+Thinkofdeath> in the protocol particles weren't entities anyway
11:17 < Fenhl> ah
11:17 < Fenhl> right
11:18 < Fenhl> but then what changed
11:18 < Fenhl> also, was 15w32b protocol 53?
11:18 <+Thinkofdeath> i'll check
11:18 <+Thinkofdeath> I think the changes are entity related though
11:19 <+Thinkofdeath> 'TNT animation ends at 80 ticks, ignores fuse length changes.' that was a nbt change from byte to short in c
11:19 <+Thinkofdeath> 'Potions in new snapshot turn into water bottles with no texture / missing texture' that changed the item to allow damage values in b
11:20 <+Thinkofdeath> 15w32b was 53
18:14 < rom1504> http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Tab-Complete seems to have changed ?
18:14 < rom1504> I'm getting an error about the position, maybe the condition has changed ?
18:14 < rom1504> hmm
18:43 < rom1504> right https://gist.github.com/rom1504/f30d0cd18d4fb39d1515/revisions
18:43 < rom1504> they changed all the packet ids
18:43 < rom1504> great
18:48 <+XorBoole> rom1504 actually, they got shifted over for reasons
18:48 < rom1504> sure
18:54 < rom1504> I meant they changed them again though, Pre-Release is currently outdated ;)
18:56 < rom1504> hmm
18:58 < rom1504> yeah idk I'm not sure when I last updated that gist, so the diff is weird
19:00 < rom1504> oh right "No changes"
19:00 < rom1504> nevermind
19:02 < rom1504> oh well, I was using the 1.8 vanilla client with the 1.9 server, nevermind all of what I said today :d
19:02 <+XorBoole> welcome to snapshots, the most exciting part of the insane development cycle
19:49 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+4/-1/±4] http://git.io/v3JLD
19:49 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor 38df868 - Shovels: iron, gold, diamond.
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00:04 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±5] http://git.io/v3UYl
00:04 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor f26bd55 - Finish axes.
01:55 < Not-c389> [mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] http://git.io/v3U6R
01:55 < Not-c389> [mineflayer] rom1504 2ff681e - improve placeBlock : * now has a callback that is called when the block is actually placed (using blockUpdate) * look at the block before placing it
02:14 < Not-c389> [mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/v3UXa
02:14 < Not-c389> [mineflayer] rom1504 8c96307 - remove assert from placeBlock and put cb(new Error("...")) instead
09:01 < Not-c389> [mineflayer] rom1504 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/v3Tay
09:01 < Not-c389> [mineflayer] rom1504 735d8e3 - add missing break; in jumper.js
19:17 < TkTech> rom1504, mmmm unicode in passwords seems to be broken, sorry about that.
20:12 <+ammar2> rom1504: https://github.com/mcdevs/protocol-spec
20:29 < LEGENDFF> uhm got a probably stupid question, is the encryption also used in play state or only during login?
20:30 <+AndrewPH> to my knowledge, pretty much everything
20:31 < LEGENDFF> alright thought so, thank you
20:31 <+AndrewPH> warning: I could be 100% wrong
20:31 <+AndrewPH> but you'll find out if it starts breaking past a certain point
20:45 < angal> After encryption start all data goes encrypted (whole socket) untill connection terminated.
20:47 <+ammar2> ^ this
22:48 < rom1504> TkTech: yeah I saw that, well I picked another one in the end
23:05 < rom1504> ammar2: I worked some more on gettings notes in our protocol.json file, using an extractor from wiki.vg/Protocol https://github.com/PrismarineJS/minecraft-data/blob/master/bin/wiki_extractor/protocol_extractor.js
23:05 < rom1504> it already works for most packets, still missing the more complicated ones
23:05 < rom1504> still some issues have appeared : the wiki notes are in wikitext
23:05 < rom1504> they contain templates and wiki links
23:06 < rom1504> idk what to think about that
23:07 < rom1504> I could probably remove the wikitext specific parts, but really the info it contains is useful, but I don't know if there should be wikitext inside protocol.json
23:08 < rom1504> anyway, protocol.json is not quite ready yet to produce a wiki.vg/Protocol-like automatically but should I move minecraft-data in mcdevs or do I wait for things to be a little bit more concrete ?
23:11 < AlphaBlend> Grum: Can you clarify something for me? Is Mojang eventually going to replace the current PC edition of minecraft with the windows 10 edition?
23:12 < AlphaBlend> my community is talking about this right now
23:12 < AlphaBlend> and i'm just wondering if it's going to happen
23:12 < AlphaBlend> if anyone else knows the answer, feel free to respond in place of Grum :)
23:14 < zml> AlphaBlend: MC java isn't going anywhere
23:24 < Poring> Hello, could someone please show me example of how to format server-bound packets with compression ? For exaple here I have respawn packet without compression, how can I make it compressed ? http://hastebin.com/jikukopiji.coffee
23:37 < Poring> anybody please ?
23:55 <+Amaranth> zml: Eh, some day PE will catch up in features and get ported to OS X. I expect the Java version to die out shortly after that.
23:55 < zml> not soon
23:55 <+AndrewPH> I really don't expect the java version to die out any time soon
23:55 <+Amaranth> Probably a year or so
23:55 <+AndrewPH> there's a massive amount of mods for it
23:56 <+AndrewPH> a huge amount of those would take quite a while to port to another language
23:56 <+Amaranth> PE is C++ with no modding framework
23:56 <+Amaranth> So no porting
23:56 <+AndrewPH> I was implying they would add some kind of api, best case scenario
23:59 < zml> would have to work with a custom server
23:59 < zml> and hope they add extensibility
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00:04 <+ammar2> rom1504: like I said, never put wikitext or any formatting in protocol.json, only small descriptions
00:05 < AlphaBlend> Amaranth: a year's time is too soon
00:05 < AlphaBlend> I don't see it going anywhere either, there is a good plugin base in java, though you could get that with C++ or some other language
00:06 <+ammar2> rom1504: you can move your protocol.json on there right now, also we need to work out how to do multiple proto versions sanely
00:06 <+ammar2> do we want to use git tags or have json spec files for each version
00:56 < rom1504> ammar2: yes but look http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Spawn_Object field notes have formatting
00:57 <+ammar2> rom1504: that can go in the detailed doc, "X, Y, Z are {link|blabla}"
00:59 <+ammar2> rom1504: how do you feel about versioning?
01:01 < rom1504> I think git tag (or git branches if we plan on fixing stuff in older versions) would fit
01:01 <+ammar2> yeah tags sound good to me too 
01:01 <+ammar2> not like we can fix stuff in the past the way we have it on the wiki now anyway
01:03 < rom1504> is it better to have a specific repo for the protocol instead of storing it among the other data things like minecraft-data currently do ?
01:04 <+ammar2> I think so
01:15 < rom1504> hmm okay, I guess I could then include it in minecraft-data with submodule or something anyway
01:17 < rom1504> what would go in https://github.com/mcdevs/protocol-spec ? just the data ? the thing to generate something like wiki.vg/Protocol (I guess in html ?) ?
01:18 <+ammar2> the json for now
01:18 < rom1504> just for info, my current setup in minecraft-data is : data, schema checker, and some extractor in master branch, and some visualizer in gh-pages branch
01:18 <+ammar2> we can mess around with different ways to render a documentation page
01:18 <+ammar2> but the json for now would be good
01:18 <+ammar2> and we can put notes in it
01:24 < rom1504> tbh, to me the protocol is data just like the blocks or the entities are, so I'm can't quite see the benefit in not using minecraft-data for it (except if there's something with minecraft-data that doesn't fit ?)
01:25 <+ammar2> well we haven't conventially documented that sort of stuff since the information is widely available on the mc wiki for example
01:25 <+ammar2> I personally don't mind
01:27 <+ammar2> but for now I think it'd be good having just the protocol, depending on what other people say we can do the other stuff
01:30 < rom1504> well the information is available on the minecraft wiki just as the protocol information is available on wiki.vg. But in both cases it's not structured, programs can't used it directly. Currently our block.json, entities.json, ... are automatically extracted from the mc wiki, so the process is a bit different from the update of the protocol which is mostly manual, but I'm not sure if how the data is update
01:30 < rom1504> d should mean that it cannot be put in one place
01:33 < rom1504> (the problem minecraft-data is trying to solve is to provide structured minecraft data to programs)
01:35 <+ammar2> yeah I understand, but generally documenting the protocol is our domain. We can discuss more about the other stuff
01:40 < Fenhl> btw you might want to have a look at https://github.com/wurstmineberg/assets.wurstmineberg.de — the json directory contains similar data, although it's targeted more at programs like websites that show Minecraft-related info than Minecraft server/client implementations
01:41 < Fenhl> for example, the inventory display at http://wurstmineberg.de/people/fenhl is built using the items.json from that repo combined with api.wurstmineberg.de
01:44 < rom1504> nice
01:44 < Fenhl> the API is open source btw and works with any Notchian vanilla server https://github.com/wurstmineberg/api.wurstmineberg.de
01:45 < Fenhl> (might also work with other servers after some tweaking)
01:46 < rom1504> https://github.com/wurstmineberg/assets.wurstmineberg.de has some data minecraft-data doesn't have (like images, or stuff like achievements) but it's also missing things (most recipes, blocks,...)
01:46 < rom1504> but interesting
01:46 < rom1504> http://wurstmineberg.de/people/fenhl looks good
01:46 < Fenhl> yeah the obtaining thing in items.json is an ongoing thing
01:47 < Fenhl> the dev branch (which is updated for 15w31a to 15w32b) has a bit more
01:49 < Fenhl> one of the goals of that project is to eventually have enough info to let alltheitems.wurstmineberg.de decide whether any given item is renewable, and whether it's allowed to be duplicated using general-purpose dupe bugs on our server
01:49 < rom1504> renewable ?
01:50 < Fenhl> according to our definition at http://wiki.wurstmineberg.de/Renewability
01:51 < rom1504> what is not renewable ?
01:51 < Fenhl> our rules regarding item dupes is basically: if the dupe can duplicate anything, you're only allowed to dupe stuff that is otherwise nonrenewable. Except diamonds, don't dupe diamonds.
01:52 < rom1504> oh "dragon egg" I guess
01:52 < Fenhl> examples for nonrenewable items include diamonds, iron ore, End stone, and dirt
01:52 < Fenhl> because you need to generate new terrain to make more of them
01:52 < rom1504> oh right I understand
01:52 < Fenhl> dragon egg is finite, which is a subset of nonrenewable
01:53 < rom1504> with our recipes.json (and some function in mineflayer) we can figure out how to make any item by crafting
01:54 < rom1504> guess you'd need to figure out something like that to see if an item is renewable
01:54 < rom1504> basically if an item can be crafted with renawable items, it is renewable
01:55 < Fenhl> yeah, crafting recipes are part of that. If you look at items.json.description.txt it also lists other methods of obtaining
01:55 < Fenhl> for example plants are renewable by farming them, that can't be figured out just with crafting recipes
01:56 < rom1504> oh yeah nice
01:56 < rom1504> sounds like https://github.com/andrewrk/mineflayer/issues/275#issuecomment-97743291
01:57 < rom1504> figuring out how to have an item by many ways can be useful
01:58 < rom1504> generating recipes from the wiki was doable (with have a script for that)
01:58 < rom1504> but for the other ways, it seems hard to have that data by any other ways that manually
01:59 < rom1504> well maybe semi-automatically
02:01 < Fenhl> yeah, I've been adding it manually so far
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05:51 < Not-5015> [GitHub] Half measures are as bad as nothing at all.
05:56 < Not-5015> [GitHub] Speak like a human.
06:05 < zml> wut
06:07 <+ammar2> someone messing around with notifico's plaintext hook
06:08 <+XorBoole> I wish I could claim to be responsible for such shenanigans
06:08 <+XorBoole> instead I'm sitting hear making hoe models
06:08 <+ammar2> truly a great cause
06:08 <+XorBoole> they're a matching set!
06:19 < dx> that's not hte plaintext hook, that's github's test payload when you first configure its webhooks
06:20 <+ammar2> oh
06:20 <+ammar2> that makes more sense
06:20 <+ammar2> since it has a github prefix
06:21 < zml> lol
13:04 < LEGENDFF> what response am i supposed to get from https://sessionserver.mojang.com/session/minecraft/join, if the everything was done correctly?
13:04 < LEGENDFF> getting 204 no content atm
13:04 <+ammar2> yeah that's right
13:04 <+ammar2> just check if it doesn't return an http error
15:16 < rooisnoek> hi everyone, I am writing a minecraft client emulator (basically a bot) and I am having weird behaviour. When the client moves the movement (viewed from a notchian client) appears jerky UNLESS the notchian client is also moving. Does anyone know why the movement would look like that?
15:23 < angal> vanilla server send updates to clients, only when receive movement packets from them. When vanila clients moves he sendes much more movement packets, than when he stays.
15:24 < angal> So when vanilla client moves, he received packets of movement your bot more often and couse of this it's looks less jerky.
15:25 < angal> So it's description, why movement hides the bug. Why it appears.. idk. Maybe someone else will answer.
15:47 < rom1504> rooisnoek: I bet you are moving "wrongly", check if the server is sending you position packets (correcting you)
15:50 < rooisnoek> just checked, the only time the server sends my position is at spawn and the client is definitely moving so its not illegal movement that´s causing it
15:52 < rooisnoek> at this point my client is really primitive so the only packet it is sending to the server regularly (apart from the keep alive) is the Player Position and Look packet. Is there perhaps another packet that should be sent regularly to update the position for other viewing clients?
15:54 < rom1504> how often do you send the position packet ?
15:54 < rom1504> should be every 50ms I think
15:54 < rooisnoek> 20 times a second apprximately
15:54 < rooisnoek> jip, 50ms
15:55 < rom1504> hmm, and what kind of movement are you doing ? instant acceleration ?
15:55 < rom1504> constant speed ?
15:57 < rooisnoek> constant speed, the client is walking the outline of a 20x20 block square repeatedly
15:58 < rooisnoek> the client immedeatley starts walking after spawning and for the first second it appears smooth before it starts to ¨jerk¨
16:02 < rooisnoek> the only packets the server is sending me is the keep alive, time update and chunk data packets
16:03 < rooisnoek> is there any response packets for the time update and chunk data packets? Its continuously sending chunk data long after spawning, and and the client never moves far from the starting position
16:03 < Fenhl> rooisnoek: have you tried sending Player Position when the look direction isn't changing?
16:05 < rom1504> rooisnoek: not just exactly what you mean by "jerky", but could it be rounding errors ?
16:06 < rooisnoek> by jerky I mean it kind of looks like the client is teleporting short distances constantly
16:06 < rooisnoek> so it starts walking smoothly and the it looks like it gets stuck and starts instantaneously jumpinp a couple of blocks ahead
16:07 < rooisnoek> currently Im only sending Player Position and Look packets even if the direction its looking is not changing
16:10 < rom1504> are you sure you are actually sending the position packet fast enough ?
16:10 < rom1504> it sounds like it's the position packets that "get stuck"
16:14 < rooisnoek> Just timed it, its always roughly 50ms between each movement packet
16:16 < angal> Are this time betwin packets send by bot, received by server and send by server to vanilla client?
16:17 < rooisnoek> this is the time between me making library calls to send the player position and look packets from the client im writing
16:17 < rooisnoek> as i said the movement looks jerky when i am looking at it with a notchian client while standing still, if my vanilla client is walking my emulated client movement looks fine
16:18 < angal> Are you shure your library write packets instantly and flushes data in socket?
16:20 <+ammar2> also how much distance are you moving approximately per packet
16:21 < rooisnoek> im using the MCProtocoLib library and it used Netty for networking
16:22 < rooisnoek> im moving 4.317/20.0 per packet
16:37 < rooisnoek> rom1504 : I think you were right, i just timed the event that fires when a packet is sent and it seems after a while they pile up and get sent several at a time
16:37 < rooisnoek> this does not look like its going to be fun to fix :P haha
17:09 <+Amaranth> rooisnoek: TCP_NODELAY set?
17:11 < rooisnoek> thanks for letting me know, i found that option about ten minutes ago. The problem i have now is to change it
17:12 < rooisnoek> the library im using isnt excactly making it easy to access the neccesary code
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20:29 < nickelpro> Does anyone know or can point me towards a resource which explains where the position in Player Position and Look is relative to the player bounding box?
20:30 < nickelpro> My guess would be bottom center of the feet but I haven't done any digging
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21:17 < LEGENDFF> Is there any other way to activate compression besides sending a 0x3. wrote a bot thats working on all of my test setups, but not on some other servers it doesnt. Seems like the packets are compressed, but I didnt receive any 0x3, therfore I received one with id VarInt 266(decimal), one with 0 and another one with 266. After that all incoming packets are compressed.
21:18 < LEGENDFF> If i just switch to compression after that 266 its working, just seemed weird to me
21:19 < angal> There are 2 compression packets. 1 for login, 2 for play...
21:20 < LEGENDFF> oh youre right, thank you
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00:35 < Fenhl> nickelpro: that should be correct
14:19 < OnlyQubes> hello
14:21 < OnlyQubes> Ermm... on the packet 'Player Block Placement' it says 'This packet has a special case where X, Y, Z, and Direction are all -1. (Note that Y is unsigned so set to 255.)'. But i don't really understand should  Location, Face, Held Item, Cursor Position X, Cursor Position Y or Cursor Position Z be set to -1?
14:50 < OnlyQubes> Not to be rude or anything, but i was wondering is anybody here or is this like dead?
14:50 <+ammar2> people are here, we talk sometimes
14:51 <+ammar2> this is kind of an off time plus I'd imagine not too many people are familair with that exact thing
14:54 < OnlyQubes> oh okay, thank you
14:55 < gamingrobot> OnlyQubes: one sec looking at the docs again
14:55 < OnlyQubes> Okay :p
14:57 < gamingrobot> iirc only x, y, z and direction is -1, held item, location, and face still matter, like right clicking water block with a bucket
14:57 < gamingrobot> wait direction isnt part of the packet anymore
14:58 < gamingrobot> Cursor x, y, z should be -1 for the special case
15:00 < OnlyQubes> Okay, thank you very much!
15:01 < OnlyQubes> But for example i am just using an item, not a block just a compass for example (teleportation plugin). What Location/face would i put in? Or using items is a different packet?
15:02 < OnlyQubes> I would guess i would just use my players position in that case
15:08 < gamingrobot> OnlyQubes: you could always use the ProtocolLib plugin to see what the client is sending in that case
15:12 < gamingrobot> OnlyQubes: whatcha working on, if you dont mind me asking
15:13 < OnlyQubes> oh im working on kinda of a bot you could say
15:14 < OnlyQubes> i figured out movement
15:14 < OnlyQubes> and stuff, only this is left for it to be sort of complete
15:14 < OnlyQubes> imagine something like darkbot, but something worse and is for 1.8
15:14 < gamingrobot> using a framework or just from scratch?
15:14 < OnlyQubes> from scratch i hate using frameworks, don't know why
15:15 < OnlyQubes> i coppied some parts like encodings, because i hate that stuff
15:29 < OnlyQubes> One more question, because im really stipid is 'BuildTools.jar' in https://hub.spigotmc.org/jenkins/job/BuildTools/ the spiggot server? i never did anything with server, so i don't really know.
15:30 < gamingrobot> OnlyQubes: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-installation/
15:30 < OnlyQubes> thank you :D
15:30 < gamingrobot> oops wrong page, this is the one you want https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/buildtools/
15:38 < OnlyQubes> That tutorial is working great, the one i checked last time was horrible. 
16:20 < OnlyQubes> Well i think i did it (haven't tested sending it, but it show like this in spiggot). In case you are wondering here is how the packet should look: Location.x/y/z = -1, face = 255, HeldItem = itemstack, Cursor_x/y/z: 0
16:28 < gamingrobot> oh so my info was off
16:39 < OnlyQubes> Tested it on a server and it works
16:39 < OnlyQubes> you info seems to be a bit off
16:39 < OnlyQubes> i can send you some info about that, that i got from the server
16:49 < OnlyQubes> Don't know if this is useful, but here you go http://pastebin.com/ABPdJqGi 
18:12 < OnlyQubes> Hey im back, with a nother question... : >. I read every 'Slot Data' field fine until the Nbt blob. How do i know how long it is? :?
18:18 < shoghicp> I think you have to read them on PC
18:18 < shoghicp> on pocket it's prefixed by a short for now
18:19 < OnlyQubes> Oh, okay thanks. Will try to do that, ill tell you how it goes
18:20 <+ammar2> shoghicp: it used to have a length prefix on PC too
18:20 < shoghicp> yep, I remember
18:23 < OnlyQubes> oh damn, maybe it has, ill check 1 sec
18:23 < OnlyQubes> Was the prefix a varint?
19:00 < OnlyQubes> Does anybody know how i could get the bytes of an 'NbtTag' (class taken from http://www.fcraft.net/)?
19:01 < OnlyQubes> nvm, figured it out
19:20 <+Grum> like that
20:00 < OnlyQubes> What 'Plugin Message'(0x17) does vanilla minecraft send?
20:02 <+XorBoole> OnlyQubes several that start with MC|
20:02 <+XorBoole> e.g. for books, setting beacon effect, etc.
20:02 <+XorBoole> it's all documented somewhere
20:03 < OnlyQubes> oh
20:03 < OnlyQubes> D:
20:03 < OnlyQubes> well how does it know how to interpret for example BungeeCord?
20:08 < nickelpro> OnlyQubes: It doesn't, Plugin channels that vanilla doesn't recognize it ignores
20:08 < nickelpro> It's really weird that vanilla uses plugin channels at all, they control the protocol, why bother?
20:11 < OnlyQubes> ohhh.... So how does BungeeCord even work?
20:11 < OnlyQubes> I thought it send a plugin message with information about the server to connect to
20:12 < nickelpro> It does, to another modded server that knows to recognize BungeeCord plugin messages
20:12 <+ammar2> bungee does use plugin messages internally but they're kept between bungee and the server
20:12 <+ammar2> the client doesn't have anything to do with them
20:12 < nickelpro> ^^
20:12 <+ammar2> client <==> bungee <==(normal protocol + plugin messages)===> server
20:12 < OnlyQubes> ohhh
20:13 < OnlyQubes> oh now i get it D: thanks
20:13 < OnlyQubes> So umm.. mind explaining to me what packet do they send to tell the client to connect to a different server (i think the clients connect to another server)
20:18 <+ammar2> it doesn't tell the client its changing servers, it tells the client its changing worlds
20:18 <+ammar2> but internally its disconnecting from one server and connecting to another and then proxying for that server
20:19 < OnlyQubes> ohhh
20:19 < OnlyQubes> thank you very much : >
20:31 < OnlyQubes> 1 last question (hopefully :p), and how does it tell the client that it is changing worlds and how does the client need to respond? :?
20:34 <+ammar2> Respawn/0x07 play state
20:40 < OnlyQubes> thank you : >
21:37 <+Thinkofdeath> (on the subject of bungee) actually since 1.7 it doesn't use plugin messages for the join info since the plugin message can't be sent in the login state
21:51 < LEGENDFF> uhm how does the server.jar keep the most bottom line only for input, when opened in cmd? looks so fancy, I want todo that for my bot xD
21:52 <+ammar2> language?
21:54 < LEGENDFF> java
21:55 < LEGENDFF> notchian server does it
21:55 <+ammar2> I think craftbukkit used to use jline2 for that
21:55 <+ammar2> not sure what vanilla uses
21:57 <+ammar2> p.s mojang you might wanna update https://minecraft.net/game/credits to cover netty, other new libraries
21:58 < shoghicp> LEGENDFF: I tried doing that with pure ANSI escape codes, mostly works :P
21:58 < shoghicp> no idea about windows terminal
21:59 <+ammar2> windows is the only terminal that matters ^o^
21:59 < shoghicp> and ofc there are libraries for that, but I had time to spare
21:59 <+ammar2> everyone knows you're supposed to use linux exclusively through a GUI
21:59 < LEGENDFF> server jar also does it on shell^^
21:59 < shoghicp> yep I know, but also does the magic on windows ;D
22:00 < shoghicp> but now I'm happy segfaulting PHP, which is more fun to debug and helps other people as well!
22:02 <+ammar2> one day it'll seg fault you back
22:02 < shoghicp> oh it's actually doing that
22:02 < shoghicp> seems like I messed up the internals too much
22:03 < shoghicp> after I tried doing a full memory dump from PHP itself
22:04 < shoghicp> so, dump memory, next tick, server crashes
22:04 < shoghicp> just a plain "seg fault"
22:04 < shoghicp> and backtrace is messed up
22:04 < shoghicp> so I guess I corrupted something
22:05 <+ammar2> oh man speaking of corrupted stacks
22:05 <+ammar2> this one time I was trying to debug a segfault, but turns out the core dump limit was set reasonably low and it was truncated the dumps but not actually printing a truncation message
22:05 <+ammar2> plus gdb wasn't complaining that the core dump was truncated
22:06 <+ammar2> so I would bt, and it would be the randomest shit
22:06 <+ammar2> and I was so confused
22:06 < shoghicp> also TIL (or the other day mostly) fopen doesn't have a stack
22:06 < shoghicp> so if you redefine fopen and forget to have ::fopen() it causes infinite recursion
22:06 < shoghicp> but no stack overflow
22:06 < shoghicp> (C++)
22:11 < shoghicp> ammar2: for a few days my gdb just timeout every time the program hit a breakpoint
22:11 < shoghicp> and left zombie processes everywhere
22:11 <+ammar2> lolwat
22:11 < shoghicp> that did not clean the sockets of course
22:11 < shoghicp> then magically the problem stopped, no updates, no restarts
22:12 <+ammar2> love low level programming
22:14 < shoghicp> also if you hit something not implemented in android it just kills your application, no message, nothing
22:14 < shoghicp> (C++ library side)
22:15 < shoghicp> so you have to put several logs around and hope to find it after a few compilations :S
22:17 <+ammar2> shoghicp: what really? that sounds like a terrible development environment
22:17 < shoghicp> blame android!
22:18 < shoghicp> I'm usually the one that tests android daily, so I get lots of issues :P
22:19 < shoghicp> because something compiling and working on a computer doesn't mean that if it compiles on android it'll work ;D
22:19 < shoghicp> besides that, I build faster than them!
22:19 < shoghicp> so I don't complain :P
22:20 <+ammar2> I think the solution to your problems is simple
22:20 <+ammar2> port mcpe to java and make sure all the notchcode is in it
22:23 <+XorBoole> shoghicp out of curiosity, do you guys write the JNI/ObjC++ bindings by hand?
22:24 < shoghicp> we have a platform layer to abstract that, and seems written by hand
22:24 < shoghicp> but you don't want to look at that
22:24 <+XorBoole> ah, I was reminded of a talk I went to last year
22:24 <+XorBoole> dropbox has this tool for generating the bindings
22:24 <+XorBoole> it's written in some of the worst scala I've ever read
22:25 <+XorBoole> and by "talk" I mean "dropbox showed us a slideshow and then gave us free food and tshirts"
22:26 < shoghicp> haha
22:26 <+XorBoole> it was good pizza!
22:27 < shoghicp> we only have C++, C, Java, ObjC, Python in the project
22:27 < shoghicp> oh, and of course PHP
22:27 <+XorBoole> "only" he says
22:27 < shoghicp> most of those are 0.x%
22:28 < shoghicp> some analyzers and wrappers for the generated code are PHP
22:28 <+XorBoole> ftw you have so many languages in your project you get "Other" on github
22:28 <+XorBoole> tfw*
22:29 < shoghicp> oh, I did not add some of my scripts to the repo, they are quite useful to see what is going on the low level
22:29 < shoghicp> we found that "return false;" is two instructions in GCC, MOV 0 and return
22:29 < shoghicp> but 10 in clang :S
22:31  * XorBoole puts a chlorophorm cloth in shoghicp's face
22:31 <+XorBoole> shhh
22:31 <+XorBoole> #clangmasterrace
22:32 < shoghicp> PHP will prevail!
22:32 < shoghicp> it's alive!
22:32 <+XorBoole> PHP 7 is approaching "ok"
22:32 <+XorBoole> there are some cool ideas in PHP
22:32 < shoghicp> oh if you follow my conversations on #pocketmine I love segfaulting it ;D
22:32 <+XorBoole> like making a class variable nothing more than a symbol
22:33 <+XorBoole> except it's not really a symbol and more of a plain string...
22:33 < shoghicp> well, at least integers are no longer pointers
22:33 < shoghicp> that need to dereference a chain of 4 pointers
22:33 <+XorBoole> wat
22:33 < shoghicp> that was plain stupid
22:33 <+XorBoole> > 4 pointers
22:33 < shoghicp> now they are passed on the stack :D
22:34 <+XorBoole> and to think java only has about 3 levels of indirection for object data
22:34 < shoghicp> also other types are a chain of 2 pointers instead of 4 :P
22:34 <+XorBoole> is it 3 or 2? I can't remember
22:34 < shoghicp> but yeah, seems like people that want to try to do good things are controlling the project now
22:35 <+XorBoole> there's this one rasmus comment about OO
22:35 < shoghicp> oh I don't mean him :P
22:35 <+XorBoole> no, it's something like "procedural programming must be a first-class citizen"
22:35 <+XorBoole> who cares, he's a great sources of hilarity
22:36 < shoghicp> ^
22:36 < shoghicp> so pocketmine was 10% of the global PHP 5.6 usage
22:36 < shoghicp> let's see what we can do with PHP7
22:37 <+XorBoole> seriouslly?
22:37 <+XorBoole> that's pretty impressive
22:37 < shoghicp> that was a few months ago
22:37 <+XorBoole> mostly because wodpress exists
22:37 < shoghicp> both have gone up, so no idea where it stands now
22:38 <+XorBoole> gotta go
22:39 < shoghicp> me too :P
22:39  * XorBoole sets shoghicp's chair on fire and jumps out the window
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02:19 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] http://git.io/v3Rtb
02:19 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor cd0e89b - Can't say I was too fond of the beacon animation.
05:48 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/v3R79
05:48 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 6569a52 - Add whiltelist build for travis
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10:06 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot e7668f7 - Added tox whitelist_externals to remove warning about flake8 and py.test being outside testenv
10:32 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/v309s
10:32 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 5eb9013 - Remove to have better virtualenv on development machines
10:54 < rom1504> barneygale: did you ever try your proxy (https://github.com/barneygale/rex) on gamemode 3 ? I wonder if you'd have the same issue as us (node-minecraft-protocol) : no noclip
10:59 < barneygale> gamemode 3? is that spectator?
11:12 < barneygale> rom1504, ^
11:14 < rom1504> yesd
11:14 < rom1504> *yes
11:14 < barneygale> i'll test it tonight if I have time, but I don't see why proxying would affect it
11:14 < rom1504> yeah well we have no idea why either
11:15 < rom1504> we just forward everything in PLAY state
11:15 < rom1504> I think it might come either from 1) something not in play state (but we checked everything so idk) 2) some kind of race condition
11:16 < rom1504> anyway, it would be interesting to see if you have that issue or not
11:19 < barneygale> I'll take a look, sounds interesting
11:59 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/v3EOd
11:59 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 0fb9567 - Removed py30, py31, py32 This is due to disto currently uses python 3.0, python 3.1 as default python3 install. Ubuntu 12.04 and Debian 7 (wheezy) still use python 3.2 as the default python3 install but these are the old stable releases for these distros. This will also fix the strange EOFError caused by python 3.2 https://travis-ci.org/SpockBotMC/SpockBot/jobs/75148017
11:59 < Not-5015> https://travis-ci.org/SpockBotMC/SpockBot/jobs/75229024 As we are not the only people having this issue https://bitbucket.org/pytest-dev/pytest/issues/347/pytest-xdist-and-python-32 https://pybuilder.github.io/documentation/plugins.html#Python3.2warning
11:59 < gamingrobot> oh god why does that bot show the entire commit message
12:03 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/v3Esu
12:03 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot ef81ef4 - Forgot to remove the py30, py31, py32 tox env's from travis
12:11 <+ammar2> why not
12:13 < barneygale> rom1504, one thought: could it be some kind of uuid mismatch issue? are both server and proxy running in offline mode?
12:15 < gamingrobot> I would have expected it to just show the first line of the commit message, not the entire thing
12:20 < OnlyQubes> hi, me back again... I ran into one last problem (hopefully.). Im trying to authenticate myself trough the https://authserver.mojang.com/authenticate, but im running into an error message 'The remote server returned an error: (403) Forbidden.'. Im sure im doing everything that http://wiki.vg/Authentication says to do. More info: http://pastebin.com/pFY3DHX2
12:26 <+ammar2> OnlyQubes: that's odd, it looks right. Can you show the payload sending code?
12:26 < OnlyQubes> 1 sec
12:28 < OnlyQubes> http://pastebin.com/a08rNnip the field request is the payload
12:29 < OnlyQubes> i might have forgotten how to send payloads correctly in c#, but i think its how you do it
12:31 <+ammar2> OnlyQubes: I think you may need to set webRequest.ContentLength = payload length
12:31 < OnlyQubes> ill try that, 1 sec
12:31 <+ammar2> also call stream.Close
12:31 <+ammar2> instead of flush
12:32 < OnlyQubes> Hmmm.. seems to give the same error :<. Ill go do a bit more testing i guess :p
12:34 < OnlyQubes> maybe its something with my ip, because i did so much failed attems, ill attempt changing it and then trying. Don't know if they block ips or not
12:35 <+ammar2> they do rate throttling but its a different error iirc
12:35 <+ammar2> but yeah worth a shot
12:36 < OnlyQubes> this code: http://pastebin.com/5mH6P9Vc that i found on the internet seems to work, but i can't really use it, because TcpClients don't have proxy support
12:36 < OnlyQubes> i tried adding all the things it does, but i still get the same error
12:37 <+ammar2> OnlyQubes: https://github.com/SirCmpwn/Craft.Net/blob/bc20a3d3f6c60957ecd04cc7388e225387158eb1/source/Craft.Net.Client/Session.cs#L18
12:37 <+ammar2> does that work?
12:37 < OnlyQubes> maybe the line 'stream.AuthenticateAsClient(host);' has to do with it, ill go google it, because i have no idea what it does
12:39 < OnlyQubes> ill test it, 1secconds
12:43 < OnlyQubes> Seems to give me the same exception
12:43 < OnlyQubes> ahh
12:43 < OnlyQubes> but wait
12:44 <+ammar2> there's more
12:44 <+ammar2> for only 29.99
12:44 < OnlyQubes> yeah it does seem to work, the credentials were invalid
12:44 < OnlyQubes> it works
12:44 < OnlyQubes> xD
12:44 < OnlyQubes> yeah, sorry works, thank you very much :*
12:53 < rom1504> barneygale: hmm yeah you're right that's possible, I need to check that it was indeed in offline mode
12:53 < rom1504> should be but not sure
13:05 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] Gjum pushed 5 commits to master [+0/-0/±8] http://git.io/v3EwW
13:05 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot fe7602e - Add inplace operations for CartesianVector This is so in the physics plugin we can avoid returning a new Vector3 object every time. Also added some basic tests for the CartesianVector
13:05 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 0bcecd8 - Add __idiv__ and __div__ incase __future__.division is not imported
13:05 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 41e7b34 - Fixed merge conflict
13:05 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] ... and 2 more commits.
13:20 < OnlyQubes> Does minecraft authentication block proxies? :?
13:23 < nick____> .
13:41 < OnlyQubes> When does minecraft authentication website block an ip and for how long? :?
14:28 < rom1504> OnlyQubes: http://wiki.vg/Mojang_API#Notes
14:28 < OnlyQubes> oh, thank you : >
14:30 < OnlyQubes> but does that apply to http://wiki.vg/Authentication aswell? :?
14:34 < rom1504> hmm I think so
14:40 < barneygale> OnlyQubes, it doesn't block proxies specifically
14:40 < barneygale> as far as I know, anyway
14:40 < barneygale> I'd be surprised if /joined and /hasJoined do any rate limiting. I've never run into it.
14:41 < gamingrobot> barneygale: does it block some useragents?
15:16 < barneygale> gamingrobot, it doesn't block the one I'm using (twisted default)
15:27 < OnlyQubes> After a few logins / failed logins i get 'invalid credentials' for a long time.(don't know for how long as i change my ip). I want to get around that with proxies, but then they seem  to get errors always. strange
15:33 < barneygale> OnlyQubes, what are you trying to do?
15:33 < OnlyQubes> A kinda of a bot, i can get it to move and stuff. its function would be to stay afk in fams or auto craft. Nothing like an account stealer don't worry about that
15:35 < OnlyQubes> But people would need maybe more than one account and that ip block thingy is kinda annoying me and would annoy many users. so im trying to go around it
15:35 < OnlyQubes> trying to authenticate with proxy and get the session and after that everything normal with no proxy
15:48 < OnlyQubes> Why do some people have red names in irc?
15:50 < nick____> noone have red name, you see that names red, there he/she sayed your name in there.
15:52 < nick____> lol my name is nick____
15:53 < OnlyQubes> oh okay, thanks :D
15:55 < Wuppie> OnlyQubes, what are you writing in C#? :3
15:55 < OnlyQubes> A bot, almost done
15:55 < Wuppie> Cool :D
15:55 < OnlyQubes> just one last problem, that i described above
15:56 < OnlyQubes> it can move, use items, and join bungeecord servers from the items
15:56 < OnlyQubes> and stuff
15:56 < OnlyQubes> i tested it with doing a kit dropped. It successfully did it :> went to a server joined a faction got the kits, went to f home and dropped them :>, this is my fourth attempt at this and it finally works!
15:56 < Wuppie> hm. So, you want to get a session id with a proxy enabled, and after that disable the proxy?
15:57 < Wuppie> if i read that correctly
15:57 < OnlyQubes> yes 
15:57 < OnlyQubes> but the proxies seem to be blocked or something? or im just doing it wrong
15:57 < Wuppie> They could be blocked
15:57 < OnlyQubes> so i was wondering if minecraft blocks proxies to avoiding account cracking
15:57 < Wuppie> however what seems logical to me is that it checks ip changes with sessions
15:58 < Wuppie> so, a session is probably bound to an ip-address
15:58 < OnlyQubes> im changing my ip constantly now and my sessions seem to work very fine. Im on mobile connection so it changes like every 10 minutes and i didn't need to relog for a few weeks now
15:58 < Wuppie> hm...
15:58 < Wuppie> okay
15:59 < OnlyQubes> I heard on some forums that they do block proxies and stuff, so this is going to be hard
15:59 < Wuppie> If they block proxies your fucked
15:59 < Wuppie> :P
15:59 < OnlyQubes> :D very true
16:00 < Wuppie> as pretty much all of the public proxies will be banned then
16:00 < OnlyQubes> yeah then only premium proxies would work i guess
16:00 < OnlyQubes> and you would need to buy them
16:00 < Wuppie> yeah, and not even all of them
16:00 < Wuppie> so...
16:00 < OnlyQubes> crap : <<
16:01 < Wuppie> so, i kinda doubt if u can use proxies to get a session
16:01 < Wuppie> nice to see someone use C# tho :D
16:01 < OnlyQubes> But the question now is why do they block my ip when i log in with good log in and pass after a few times
16:01 < Wuppie> i wrote a server in c#
16:01 < OnlyQubes> i used to code in java, but that was like 3-2 years ago whe i was creating mods for minecraft
16:02 < Wuppie> not sure, probably because they think you are simply spamming the login server with requests
16:02 < OnlyQubes> java and c# to me seem very similar, but thats probably because im a noobie at coding
16:02 < Wuppie> Well, java and c# are very similar
16:02 < Wuppie> code wise
16:02 < Wuppie> :
16:02 <+XorBoole> it's becaue C# is a MS's rippoff of java
16:02 < OnlyQubes> they seem almost identical D:
16:02 <+XorBoole> objectively
16:02 <+XorBoole> except C# has a few feature that make it slightly better
16:03 < Wuppie> :)
16:03 <+XorBoole> but it's for wandows so it sucks
16:03 < OnlyQubes> c# master race : >
16:03 < OnlyQubes> : <
16:03 < Wuppie> i <3 c#
16:03 < OnlyQubes> same
16:03 < Wuppie> and they are now "porting" c# to linux and mac
16:03 < Wuppie> so
16:03 <+XorBoole> if you're doing .NET you should be using F# anyways
16:03 < Wuppie> well, the .net framework actually
16:03 <+XorBoole> Wuppie mono exists
16:03 < Wuppie> i know about Mono
16:03 < Wuppie> lol
16:03 < Wuppie> but, microsoft them selfs are doing it now
16:04 < Wuppie> like official .net for linux and mac
16:04 < OnlyQubes> fianlly
16:04 <+XorBoole> still, most C# people are idiots and overuse wandows apis
16:04 < OnlyQubes> *finally
16:04 < OnlyQubes> : <
16:04 < Wuppie> i pretty much never use the windows api
16:04 <+XorBoole> so most C# code is useless on a real os
16:04 < Wuppie> lol
16:04 < OnlyQubes> why are you so mean XorBoole
16:04 < Wuppie> Because he's XorBoole 
16:04 < Wuppie> lol
16:04 < OnlyQubes> kappa
16:05 < Wuppie> nah, XorBoole is a pretty nice guy. you gotta get to know him
16:05  * XorBoole releases the cats
16:05  * Wuppie pets XorBoole's cats
16:06 < OnlyQubes> Im allergic to cats! NOooo
16:06 <+XorBoole> Wuppie actually they're cindy's cats
16:06 < Wuppie> yeah ok.
16:06 < Wuppie> but you brought them here
16:06 <+XorBoole> no she's here too
16:06 < Wuppie> hi cindy_k :D
16:06 <+XorBoole> and where ever cindy went the cats were sure to go
16:07 < Wuppie> true
16:07  * XorBoole meows
16:21 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 3 commits to master [+2/-0/±1] http://git.io/v3uNR
16:21 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 7d8159a - Add basic CONTRIBUTING instructions
16:21 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 4a99595 - Fix slight wording issue on where to push to
16:21 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot b169b50 - Merge pull request #74 from gamingrobot/f-contrib
16:23 < Wuppie> OnlyQubes, is your bot on github? i would love to check it out
16:24 < OnlyQubes> nah, i don't use github (for unknown reason). My code is probably bad, im ashamed of it kinda. : <
16:24 < OnlyQubes> I don't trust in my coding skills
16:39 < nick____> Why are no minecraft pi page on wiki.vg?
16:42 < Wuppie> nick____, http://wiki.vg/Minecraft_Pi_Protocol
16:42 < Wuppie> :P
16:42 < gamingrobot> what is minecraft pi?
16:42 < gamingrobot> ohhh
16:43 < gamingrobot> raspberry pi
16:44 < rom1504> OnlyQubes: putting code on github will motivate you to write better code then :p
16:44 < gamingrobot> and free version control :P
16:47 < dx> OnlyQubes: fearing that your code is bad is not going to improve it. instead, get rid of that fear and try to be open to constructive criticism.
16:48 < OnlyQubes> Ill put it on github, when i will have time (probably today)
16:49 < OnlyQubes> but when you see it please don't hit me
16:49 < barneygale> i've got a ton of terrible code on github, don't worry
16:49 < OnlyQubes> :D
16:50 < OnlyQubes> i wouldn't be ashamed of it so much, but i have taken some classes from only (the encoding things and a bit of authentication) and that makes me feel bad : <
16:50 < OnlyQubes> *from online
16:51 < Not-c389> [mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±44] http://git.io/v3zLe
16:51 < Not-c389> [mc-autodocs] thinkofdeath 026437f - 15w33a
17:14 < gamingrobot> barneygale: you should put rex up on this wiki page http://wiki.vg/Utility_List
17:25 < OnlyQubes> Sorry for asking a non minecraft related question, but why doesn't my solution show up when i press the 'changes' button in here http://puu.sh/jyTOx/d201404ff5.png , i have pressed open -> my project file. Save me coding gods
17:26 < OnlyQubes> i can create new project and it works, but when i select my old project, it doesn't do anything. Am i doing something wrong?
17:28 < rom1504> you probably need to add your files
17:36 < barneygale> gamingrobot, I will at some point - I want to do a v2 with a better interface, and support for inspecting packets outside of "play" mode if both proxy and server are in offline mode
17:37 < barneygale> But that requires a bit of re-engineering of quarry
17:48 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/v3zVQ
17:48 < Not-5015> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 0d49a07 - Update README.rst
18:10 < nick____> 15w33b is out
18:14 < Wuppie> http://rzr.re/view.php?id=dead57743fd46a158ed1eb7a3d236fe3
18:15 < Wuppie> a structure block
18:15 < Wuppie> 0.o
18:15 < Wuppie> wtf
18:15 < Wuppie> http://rzr.re/view.php?id=b46f4b72cf61c5ba42ec55f36ca1936d
18:15 < Wuppie> wth?
18:15 < gamingrobot> like bedrock but not?
18:16 < Wuppie> idk, its called: minecraft:structure_block
18:16 < Wuppie> mode: SAVE
18:16 < Wuppie> i have NO clue what it is
18:16 < gamingrobot> no other info than that?
18:16 < Wuppie> nope
18:16 < Wuppie> 0.o
18:17 < Wuppie> no idea what they are, maybe something weird and new in 15w33a?
18:18 < nick____> it's not new
18:18 < Wuppie> what is it? lol
18:18 < nick____> it's added in 15w31a
18:18 < gamingrobot> newish
18:19 < Wuppie> what are they for?
18:19 < Wuppie> lol
18:19 < nick____> Wuppie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtBgzdFS1Rs
18:20 < Wuppie> oki... now the weirdest thing ever: why the hell did my custom server load that...
19:48 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/v3gBa
19:48 < Not-5015> [1.8-Models] drXor da1795f - Didn't really like the whole glass tube thing.
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02:19 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] http://git.io/v3a1B
02:19 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 918d068 - Fix basic example not running
03:47 < gamingrobot> http://wiki.vg/Entities#Entity_Metadata_Format are the bottom 5 bits the same as the index in the tables?
04:35 < Fenhl> Wuppie: maybe something to do with it having block ID 255?
04:36 < Fenhl> gamingrobot: I believe so
04:47 < gamingrobot> Fenhl: reason I ask is I am getting really weird index's
04:48 < gamingrobot> like a index of 31 and 22
04:57 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] http://git.io/v3VYW
04:57 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 14a22a3 - Set encoding on decode and encode calls
04:57 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 7b99957 - Fix crash caused by #75
04:57 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 03e315e - Merge pull request #76 from gamingrobot/b-encoding
04:57 < gamingrobot> mm fun all the notifications
05:18 < nickelpro> I'm going to bed but I figure I'd put this out there. Armor Stands are borked to hell in SpockBot right now (fails to decode entity metadata about them) anyone have any ideas on why that might be, where to start looking, or if the wiki info is up to date?
05:19 < nickelpro> gamingrobot says it fails on a slot that shouldn't exist, so possibly a problem in my decoder somewhere but Armor Stands are the only thing it fails on and those inconsistently.
07:25 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/v3Va2
07:25 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot cf4b410 - Fix armor stand decoding
07:25 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 0c03c4b - Merge pull request #77 from gamingrobot/b-armorstand
07:25 < gamingrobot> ignore nickelpro it now works
07:55 < dx> /ignore nickelpro
07:55 < dx> -!- Ignoring ALL from nickelpro
07:56 < gamingrobot> not sure if bot?
07:56 < dx> lol
07:56 < dx> bots don't usually take 30 minutes to reply
07:56 < gamingrobot> maybe its just a busy bot :P
07:57 < dx> while i'm here: does anyone happen to have mac os X with iterm2?
08:08 < dx> i need a screenshot of this http://dump.dequis.org/NO09C.txt and it seems everyone is sleeping right now
09:29 < nick____> hi
09:35 < nick____> hi
09:36 < OnlyQubes> pie
09:36 < OnlyQubes> get it hi pie? anybody? oh well...
09:38 < angal> :(
09:46 < OnlyQubes> good news everybody 1 out of 200 proxies wokr : >
14:24 < nick____> .
15:53 < Not-9afb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 created branch 1.8 http://git.io/v3osM
16:06 < Not-9afb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 deleted branch master
16:08 <+SinZ> uhh
16:08 <+SinZ> deleted branch master
16:08 <+SinZ> wat
16:14 < Not-9afb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 created branch 1.9 http://git.io/v3oBY
16:14 < Not-9afb> [minecraft-data] rom1504 deleted branch snapshot-1.9
16:19 < rom1504> SinZ: we're going to do one branch by minecraft version, so no point with master branch
16:20 < rom1504> (that means setting 1.8 as default github branch)
20:11 < Not-9afb> [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±0] http://git.io/v36Tm
20:11 < Not-9afb> [1.8-Models] drXor cf8a585 - Cookies!
20:41 < roblabla> http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Use_Item seriously ?
20:41 < roblabla> insert a packet in the middle of the protocol, and shift all the ids by one ?
20:42 < roblabla> is there a valid reason use item isn't just 0x1a
20:43 < johni0702> yeah in the minecraft code packets aren't saved by ids. they're just assigned ids in the order they're registered.
20:43 < roblabla> is there a reason it wasn't registered at the end then ?
20:43 < roblabla> >.>'
20:44 < johni0702> I don't think so. but I guess there wasn't a reason not to register it where the editor was at that moment
20:44 < roblabla> there is one : breaking compat with every client in existance that isn't mojang. But I forgot mojang never cared about the dev community anyway.
20:44 < roblabla> >.>'
22:19 <+AndrewPH> roblabla: why should they care about other clients/servers?
22:46 < angal> They do not randomly assign packets for each connection, so it not a problem grab all packet ids for new version and it to our mapping.
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00:02 < morfin> hello guys 
00:02 < morfin> what can happen if ticks are executed not precisely in 1/20 of second
00:13 < zml> morfin: the server will skip ticks as necessary
00:25 < morfin> i mean how users will see that
00:25 < morfin> slower AI, fire etc?
00:35 < zml> morfin: stuff will freeze while the server is not ticking
01:22 < rom1504> AndrewPH: because part of their business depend on it (lot of players (that have paid for a minecraft account) play on non-mojang servers)
01:24 < XorBoole> wat ^
01:27 < rom1504> 22:19 <+AndrewPH> roblabla: why should they care about other clients/servers?
01:27 < XorBoole> define "non-mojang servers"
01:27 < XorBoole> does at include or exclude NMS-based servers?
01:27 < rom1504> spigot
01:28 < XorBoole> technically they use mojang's code
01:28 < rom1504> what is "nms" ?
01:28 < XorBoole> it's what we call the reverse-engineered mojang server
01:28 < XorBoole> net.minecraft.server
01:29 < XorBoole> spigot is patches for that
01:29 < rom1504> ok so bumblebee for example
01:29 < rom1504> well I guess it's not a big part of servers
01:30 < XorBoole> 90% of servers are either vanilla, craftbukkit, spigot, or forge
01:30 < XorBoole> all of which are nms
01:31 < rom1504> yeah okay I see your point
01:32 < rom1504> they don't have an economic reason, especially now that they are part of m$
01:40 <+Thinkofdeath> '<rom1504> ok so bumblebee for example' er.. o.O
01:51 < dx> what's bumblebee? other than the thing for nvidia optimus
02:01 < rom1504> a minecraft proxy, but yeah it's not used that much I guess
02:01 < rom1504> err no
02:04 < rom1504> bungeecord
02:05 < dx> ...lol
02:05 < dx> yeah, well, that's not even a server
02:05 < rom1504> yeah, so ?
02:17 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] nickelpro deleted branch physics-dev
02:22 <+Amaranth> Mojang doesn't even care about client/server mods other than thinking they're neat and trying to avoid bad PR from them dying loudly
02:22 <+Amaranth> But you expected them to care about your custom client or server?
02:26 < rom1504> no, but you'd expect them to care about writing good code.
02:49 < gamingrobot> rom1504 XorBoole: https://twitter.com/SeargeDP/status/604206757108420608
02:52 < XorBoole> gamingrobot we like to brag about that =p
02:52 < gamingrobot> I want to know what other is
02:53 < gamingrobot> what servers make up other*
02:53 < XorBoole> ask searge
02:53 < XorBoole> or another mojang employee with access to the Glorious Data
10:11 < morfin> i think i should check how io_service act when i use timer and some another tasks
10:49 < morfin> oops wrong channel
15:35 < Fenhl> okay so apparently directional blocking is here?
15:36 < Fenhl> I wonder what changes had to be made to the protocol for that
15:46 < nick_____> 15w33c is out with the shields
16:28 < Not-9afb> [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+15/-0/±0] http://git.io/v3M1s
16:28 < Not-9afb> [1.8-Models] drXor b7fae39 - Surprised dispensers and happy droppers.
16:53 < Not-9afb> [1.8-Models] drXor pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±5] http://git.io/v3Mdr
16:53 < Not-9afb> [1.8-Models] drXor ec5d3bc - Tweaks, and add a detail to the back of furance/dispenser/dropper.
18:08 < gamingrobot> Fenhl: directional blocking?
18:08 < Fenhl> weren't shields supposed to do that?
18:09 < gamingrobot> ohhhh directional blocking
18:09 < gamingrobot> for some reason I thought blocking ment a special way of placing blocks
18:10 < gamingrobot> dont we already have directional blocking with swords?
18:11 < roblabla> I suppose it just uses the head's yaw/pitch to figure out where you're looking
18:43  * XorBoole yaws roblabla 
18:43 < XorBoole> as far as I know directional blocking probably just uses yaw/pitch
18:57 < XorBoole> why do shulkers extends golem?
18:57 < XorBoole> seems like an odd design choice
18:57  * XorBoole checks the golem class
19:00 < XorBoole> the only thing special about golems is... they're Animals, have a longer sound cooldown, and don't despawn
19:00 < XorBoole> wat
19:00 < XorBoole> Skulker instanceof Animal
19:01 < XorBoole> (now, what /I/ would like to see is player-crafted sulkers)
19:30 < nick____> .
19:39 < Gjum> .
19:42 < XorBoole> there's a joke in here and I don't want to make it
19:55 < gamingrobot> every time I see nick____  put . I see .___.
19:56 < nick____> XD
20:07 < nick____>   
22:09 < nick____> .
22:12 < XorBoole> those are some mighty fine periods... but yo probably should post something more than periods sometime
22:14 <+XorBoole> there we go
22:15 <+XorBoole> I was wondering where that went
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12:37 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±13] http://git.io/v3HPd
12:37 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] Gjum f553267 - Remove redundant parentheses
12:37 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] Gjum f96e151 - Ignore more stuff in .gitignore
12:37 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] Gjum 157bdca - Fix wrong inheritance in TickTimer
12:37 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot 9aefac8 - Merge pull request #78 from Gjum/post-refactoring-cleanup
12:39 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/v3HXg
12:39 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] Gjum dcd10d5 - Clean up inventory plugin after refactoring
12:39 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] gamingrobot a960eb1 - Merge pull request #79 from Gjum/inventory-refactoring-cleanup
18:40 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] txomon pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/v3Qxr
18:40 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] txomon cb91a9a - tox: Making flake8 check examples too
19:34 < MCorgano> how often can I log in before the login servers hate me?
19:34 < MCorgano> how long do I need to wait to log back in?
19:34 < MCorgano> And how long do the login servers hate me for?
19:34 <+XorBoole> who's loging in
19:34 < MCorgano> I am
19:35 <+XorBoole> who is logging in, a client or a server
19:35 <+XorBoole> and what kind of login
19:35 < MCorgano> My client
19:35 < MCorgano> same kind of login you get when you enter an email and password into the launcher
19:35 <+XorBoole> I've never had that happen to me. how many times did you try logging in?
19:35 < MCorgano> Multiple, not sure
19:35 < MCorgano> Does anyone know the exact limits?
19:35 <+XorBoole> I'm not aware of any ratelimiting on logins
19:36  * XorBoole checks teh wikeh
19:36 < MCorgano> It's outdated
19:36 < MCorgano> says 600 per every 10 mins
19:36 < MCorgano> and I'm not een doing 10% of that
19:39 <+XorBoole> that's for UUID conversions
19:39 <+XorBoole> you want this http://wiki.vg/Authentication
19:39 <+XorBoole> it's yggdrasil's auth that's mad at you
19:40 <+XorBoole> as for how that ahppened I don't know
19:42 < MCorgano> That article doesn't state ny limit
19:42 < MCorgano> any limit*
19:42 <+XorBoole> which is why I'm confused
19:42 <+XorBoole> file a report with Mojang Support
19:43 <+XorBoole> there probably is a rate limit but it's probably quite large
20:27 < morfin> do you know what - UDP can avoid one problem
20:27 < morfin> stream desynchronization 
20:34 < morfin> there should be reasonable limits - enought to do not have logging in problems and not too much to avoid spamming
20:34 <+SinZ> MCorgano: are you going between different launchers constantly?
20:41 < MCorgano> Could someone whocan log in test this for me?
20:42 < MCorgano> How many times you can log in / log out on the launcher before it hates you?
20:42 < MCorgano> +Sinz No, I'm testing a bot I'm working on, but each time I start it is a login
20:43 <+XorBoole> unless you're spam starting it I can't see how you'd get banned
20:43 <+XorBoole> I have no idea to be honest
20:43 < MCorgano> I'm not banned
20:43 < MCorgano> IT just stops letting e login for a while
20:49 < nick____> omfg, I'm the 1000th viewer of that video!!!
20:49 < MCorgano> I can log in now
20:50 < MCorgano> ima test login every 30 seconds or so, see if that will get me locked out or not
20:55 < MCorgano> ok so I it let me connect only a few times
20:56 < MCorgano> I thik it uss some kind of tolerance
20:56 < MCorgano> it blocks me for n minutes, if I log in n+5 minutes later, I will be able to log in less times before it hates me than if I log in n+20 minutes later.
20:57 < MCorgano> I need someone who can confirm this or knows what they're doing
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01:27 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] Gjum pushed 5 commits to master [+0/-0/±9] http://git.io/v35Bo
01:27 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] Gjum 75e78c4 - Improve vector classes
01:27 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] Gjum 10d58e4 - Make Position inherit Vector3
01:27 < Not-9afb> [SpockBot] Gjum 071b803 - Use Vector3 in MovementPlugin
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02:24 < nickelpro> MCorgano: If you don't explicitly signout sometimes Yggdrasil throw a fit over multiple logins in a short space of time with "Invalid Credential" and "Forbidden Operation" errors
02:45 <+XorBoole> > Yggdrasil
02:45 <+XorBoole> > not throwing a fit just for looking it wrong
02:46 < nickelpro> ^^
02:47 < nickelpro> That's really what I meant, Ygg throws errors for a lot of random reasons. I just hammer it into submission until it let's me log in
02:48 <+XorBoole> a big wooden pulp
02:49 < nickelpro> MCorgano: Here is our login code if you like, it's basically functional https://github.com/SpockBotMC/SpockBot/blob/master/spock/mcp/yggdrasil.py
02:50 <+XorBoole> I'm kind of sad authlib isn't called nidhogg
02:56 < nickelpro> yggdrasil always struck me as a weird name for an authentication server
02:57 < nickelpro> But I would have probably named it MCAuthServer or something that makes sense like that and the MC community is not a fan of names that make sense
03:18 <+XorBoole> nickelpro it's the world tree =)