11:03 <+SirCmpwn> anyway, sleep, bye
11:03 < dx> bye!
12:49 < Connor4898> Hi, can someone help me with a problem: My friend cannot connect to my lan world (Connection timed out), but I can connect to his. We're both in the same room, and on the same connection
12:52 < MrARM> Router problems? 
12:52 < MrARM> Or you use wifi tethering? 
12:52 < Flemmard> firewalls
12:52 < Flemmard> crappy antiviruses
12:52 < Flemmard> routes
12:52 < Flemmard> netmasks
12:52 < Flemmard> ..
12:53 < MrARM> Yeah, probably
12:53 < Connor4898> I tried opening up the ports on my firewall, still connection times out
12:53 < MrARM> Firewalls
12:54 < MrARM> Connor4898 Allow Minecraft in firewall
12:54 < Flemmard> ping answers?
12:54 < Flemmard> disable your antiviruses, and his also
12:54 < MrARM> nah, his is fine probably; it allows out coming so incoming should be ok too
12:54 < Flemmard> no
12:55 < Flemmard> generally firewalls are more restrictive when it comes to input than output
12:55 < MrARM> Really? 
12:55 < Flemmard> sure, input is what can you get 'problems'
12:55 < Flemmard> e.g someone enters your shares, etc ..
12:57 < Flemmard> Connor4898: disable all the antiviruses you have, both of you, some antiviruses ahve some fuckin pissing fw's
12:59 < MrARM> It's the result of using Public rather than Private network in windows
13:00 < MrARM> and/or in firewall
13:01 < Flemmard> yeathat also
13:02 < Connor4898> Okay, I think I found the problem
13:02 < Connor4898> I was using Magic Launcher, and I had xray and zoom, that might have prevented it
13:02 < Connor4898> So I used the official launcher, and it works fine
13:03 < MrARM> heh
13:03 < Flemmard> lol
13:06 < Connor4898> Thanks anyway xD
14:04 < Connor4898> Okay, my friend is now going through a new problem xD
14:04 < Connor4898> Not to do with LAN worlds though
14:04 < Connor4898> Any server he joins, he gets kicked almost immediately
14:05 < Connor4898> Usually bad packet ids
14:05 < Connor4898> But the id number is quite random
14:06 < Connor4898> However, when I join the same servers, I don't get kicked
14:09 < Connor4898> o.o New reason for kick: Bad compressed data format
14:10 < MrARM> Connor4898: I really doubt anyone can help you with that
14:10 < Connor4898> \o/ A massive bad packet id: 257800281
14:11 < MrARM> Connor4898: it looks like a connectivity issue,  is the server in same network? 
14:11 < Connor4898> No
14:12 < Connor4898> It happens on any server
14:12 < Connor4898> Looks like a client issue
14:12 < MrARM> Connor4898: Fix your connection
14:12 < Connor4898> Me and my friend are on the same connection, I can join fine
14:12 < MrARM> Connor4898 what os he is running and RAM?
14:13 < Connor4898> He could join servers this morning though :/
14:13 < MrARM> hmmm
14:13 < MrARM> Restart PC? :P
14:14 < Connor4898> Alright
14:16 < MrARM> Connor4898: I want to play the server you are on
14:26 < Connor4898> I think a restart works :D
14:26 < Not-001> [node-minecraft-protocol] roblabla pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/DDsT1Q
14:26 < Not-001> [node-minecraft-protocol] roblabla 1943497 - Fix couple in protocol
18:04 < Not-001> [node-minecraft-protocol] roblabla pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/98lTjQ
18:04 < Not-001> [node-minecraft-protocol] roblabla 19c252a - Another tiny mistake fixed
18:06 < Not-001> [node-minecraft-protocol] roblabla pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/loCfvA
18:06 < Not-001> [node-minecraft-protocol] roblabla 1c4bced - Fix typo in type name of packet play.0x04
22:22 < dbdii407> I was wondering if anyone would be willing to help me with this problem I'm having. I keep getting "Server sent invalid player data." when sending SpawnPlayer. https://github.com/dbdii407/jumpywolf/blob/52408c53effa8f770f73eba822ca471368b6ae8f/lib/streams.js#L442 Would anyone be willing to take a look and tell me what I'm doing wrong?
22:24 < Thinkofdeath> dbdii407: That message happens when you spawn two players with the same uuid
22:28 < dbdii407> Thinkofdeath: That's a little odd as I only coded it to send once. https://github.com/dbdii407/jumpywolf/blob/master/lib/server.js#L88
22:28 < dbdii407> Am I missing something orrrr?
22:29 < Thinkofdeath> Are you sending spawn player to the player it belongs too?
22:30 < dbdii407> Yes.
22:30 < Thinkofdeath> Don't, only send it to other players
22:35 < codename_B_> You can also see that message when teleport a player sometimes
22:36 < dbdii407> Okay, so when a single player is connecting I don't need that at all? 
22:36 < dbdii407> It's only when another client connects that they get it?
22:37 < dbdii407> That is, the other client's info.
22:40 < Thinkofdeath> yep
22:43 < dbdii407> Alright. That seems to solve the issue!
22:43 < dbdii407> That's weird since it didn't have a problem with that in 1.7.5
22:49 < dbdii407> Cool. Updated. https://github.com/dbdii407/jumpywolf/commit/7978d8466db21bd51bfda2c3852d06c369eb747f
22:49 < dbdii407> Thank you Thinkofdeath 
22:49 < Thinkofdeath> dbdii407: 1.7.8 blocked it and np :)
22:53 < dbdii407> Now I just have to figure out how to do the chunks and stuff. :D
23:14 <+SirCmpwn> anyone got a beta 1.7.3 server jar lying around? What's the md5sum?
23:23 < dx> found one that says "Starting minecraft server version 0.2.4", wat
23:34 < dx> okay, that 0.2.4 is probably beta 1.4_01
23:35 <+SirCmpwn> trying to find a beta 1.7.3 server, it's quite difficult
23:35 <+SirCmpwn> I think I found the craftbukkit commit for b1.7.3, though, going to try compiling that
23:36 < dx> SirCmpwn: it's not in the mojang servers anymore?
23:36 < shoghicp> beta 1.7.3...
23:36 <+SirCmpwn> dx: if it is, I can't find it
23:36 < shoghicp> SirCmpwn: I might have that in an old archive
23:36 <+SirCmpwn> mojang has all the _clients_ up, but I can't find the servers
23:36 <+SirCmpwn> shoghicp: that'd be helpful
23:41 < shoghicp> SirCmpwn: It'll take a while, do you need it soon?
23:41 <+SirCmpwn> no
23:41 <+SirCmpwn> trying to build craftbukkit atm
23:42 <+SirCmpwn> not working well since they've moved the dependencies since
23:42 <+SirCmpwn> dl.bukkit.org only goes back to release 1.0
23:44 < dx> SirCmpwn: they used the maven repo before that
23:44 <+SirCmpwn> yeah, I think it's down
23:44 <+SirCmpwn> anyone know how to tell maven to use my local bukkit jar when compiling craftbukkit
23:46 < dx> SirCmpwn: first code block here http://blog.valdaris.com/post/custom-jar/
23:46 <+SirCmpwn> you're the best, dx
23:48 <+SirCmpwn> bleh, didn't work
23:49 < dx> SirCmpwn: BAM http://repo.bukkit.org/index.html#view-repositories;legacy~browsestorage
23:49 < dx> it's one of the 0.0.1...
23:49 <+SirCmpwn> thanks!
23:50 <+SirCmpwn> let me see when it was tagged in git
23:50 <+SirCmpwn> 2011-10-30
23:51 < shoghicp> SirCmpwn: I've it on a HD 200km from here :S
23:51 < shoghicp> If you can't get it to compile, I can get it in 15 days or so when I get back
23:51 <+SirCmpwn> shoghicp: no worries, there's not a hurry
23:52 <+SirCmpwn> I'm just looking into other means
23:52 < shoghicp> ok
23:52 < shoghicp> I've an archive from b1.4, I think
23:52 < shoghicp> client & server jar
23:54 <+SirCmpwn> dx: the earliest file on that page is beta 1.8.1 :(
23:55 <+SirCmpwn> did craftbukkit actually go back to beta 1.7.3? I could have sworn it did
23:55 < dx> SirCmpwn: that's when they started to assign version numbers properly, prior to that every release was tagged 0.0.1
23:55 <+SirCmpwn> dx: yeah, I know, I downloaded the earliest 0.0.1 file and ran it and it's a 1.8.1 server
23:55 < dx> wat
23:55 < dx> impossibru
23:55 <+SirCmpwn> see for yourself
23:56 <+SirCmpwn> grab org/bukki/craftbukkit/craftbukkit20111011.221325-1.jar
23:56 <+SirCmpwn> run it
23:56 <+SirCmpwn> 15:54:22 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.8.1
23:59 < dx> 18:56:14 [INFO] This server is running Craftbukkit version git-Bukkit-0.0.0-945-g73697a4-b1000jnks (MC: 1.7.3)
23:59 < dx> BAM
23:59 < dx> uploading
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00:00 < dx> keeping my server backups from 2011 was a good idea
00:01 <+SirCmpwn> woot
00:01 < shoghicp> SirCmpwn: found the recommended build
00:02 <+SirCmpwn> also, tip for aspiring minecraft server devs out there
00:02 <+SirCmpwn> use sensible version numbers from the start
00:02 < dx> well, it says b1000jnks
00:02 < dx> that's the RB for 1.7.3
00:02 < shoghicp> http://ge.tt/7P6LVcL
00:02 < shoghicp> build 1000 and 1060 is in there
00:03 < dx> ah, you beat me to it
00:03 <+SirCmpwn> what's the difference?
00:03 < dx> here's my build 1000 jar http://dump.dequis.org/_SY_-.jar
00:04 <+SirCmpwn> dx: worked ^_^
00:04 <+SirCmpwn> in offline mode, though
00:04 <+SirCmpwn> auth servers for beta are down
00:05 <+SirCmpwn> I might mod them both to support the new auth system
00:05 < dx> sounds fun
00:06 < shoghicp> well, I think you don't need the old minecraft_server.jar
00:06 <+SirCmpwn> shoghicp: probably not, thanks though
00:06 < dx> SirCmpwn: i got a bunch of plugins in this backup too
00:06 < shoghicp> I'll get it on my laptop so it is more accessible
00:06 <+SirCmpwn> I just want to run it vanilla
00:07 <+SirCmpwn> thanks all the same
05:05 < morfin> hello
05:05 < morfin> what's minimal packet size?
05:06 < morfin> i calculated 3: packet length 1, packet id 1 and 1 byte(slot) but not sure
05:06 <+SpaceManiac> that seems accurate, but why do you ask?
05:09 < morfin> i need to copy data to buffer to read VarInt(length) but i do not know length of length :)
11:10 < libraryaddict> Dinner bone you there?
11:11 < libraryaddict> Just wanting to know if you will tell us how this bug was fixed. https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-52817
11:12 < libraryaddict> Better question: Could you tell me how it was fixed?
11:20 < dx> oh, hey, Amaranth is a moderator in the mojang bugtracker, that's awesome
11:20 < dx> i thought that bugtracker only had moderators who didn't actually know anything about the code
11:20 <+Amaranth> heh
11:20 < libraryaddict> How dare you. Mojang carefully weighs all their options and only hire the best.
11:21 <+Amaranth> Minecraft version 1.7.9  Due:Today
11:21 <+Amaranth> shiny
11:21 < dx> libraryaddict: "the best" seems to be measured on how fast they can close tickets, regardless of how valid the issue actually is
11:22 < libraryaddict> I was going to make a jab at their asking the community about their thoughts about a new skin system where servers are screwed over
11:22 <+Amaranth> Well, when you get tickets that fast with that many duplicates such an attitude makes sense
11:22 < dx> hm, true
11:22 < libraryaddict> Yeah. Especially since most of them would be kids wanting shiny new feature or don't like this. plz remove
11:22 < SinZ> Thats when you should take into account who is submitting it
11:23 < dx> i guess people who submit valid issues are the minority
11:33 <+Amaranth> SinZ: They don't know who any of you are
12:47 < morfin> lol 
16:02 < morfin> i assume i should just ignore stuff i do not want to handle
22:06 < nightpool> Hey, in the json chat standard, what the use of the "with" array? Is it exclusive to the other options ("text", "transalate" &c) or appened to the "main" message?
22:06 < Thinkofdeath> nightpool: Its for use with 'translate'
22:07 < nightpool> Thinkofdeath: So its like arguments to the translate string?
22:07 < Thinkofdeath> yep
22:08 < nightpool> And those could possibly be full json objects (with color, italics, clicks, stuff like that?)
22:08 < Thinkofdeath> {"translate":"commands.give.success","with":["Stone sword", "5", "thinkofdeath"]} for example
22:08 < Thinkofdeath> and yes
22:09 < Thinkofdeath> {"translate":"commands.give.success","with":[{"translate":"item.swordStone.name", "color":"red"}, "5", "thinkofdeath"]} for example
22:09 < nightpool> What about "extra"? That can have clickEvents, colors etc. too?
22:09 < Thinkofdeath> yep
22:10 < nightpool> sweet. do you know why they have bold and stuff as a "color" but also as an attribute? Why not one or another? 
22:10 < Dinnerbone> It's not intentional for bold/etc to be a colour
22:11 < nightpool> Implementation detail? Or is it not a valid color and our docs should be updated?
22:12 < Dinnerbone> Not a valid colour, bug that it works.
22:12 < Dinnerbone> 'color' should only be, well, colours.
22:12 < nightpool> Sounds good.
22:14 < nightpool> I'm working on trying to implement a simpler text-based chat system for Bukkit, that supports all the new chat features.
22:14 < nightpool> onClick and stuff
22:15 < nightpool> (Text-based so server admins can edit it in configuration files easily, without having to deal with json and everything)
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03:11 <+SirCmpwn> https://cdn.mediacru.sh/7K9donfqrJXl.png
03:11 <+SirCmpwn> is this a third party client? Does anyone know which one?
03:12 <+SpaceManiac> "Minetest"?
03:12 <+SpaceManiac> Name sounds familiar
03:12 <+SirCmpwn> oh, minetest is its own thing, I remember now
04:46 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 1 commit [+0/-0/±4] http://git.io/1dS28g
04:46 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 60703e2 - Initial 1.7.6 protocol updates, spawn player packet not fixed yet
05:55 < Not-001> [node-minecraft-protocol] andrewrk pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/o_JFGg
05:55 < Not-001> [node-minecraft-protocol] andrewrk 3e2f703 - readme: clean up installation instructions. closes #81
06:40 < morfin> guys can anybody explain one thing?
06:40 <+SpaceManiac> what's the thing?
06:40 < morfin> about NBT
06:40 < morfin> i am not sure does it add new tags in the end
06:41 < morfin> looking at this: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Development_resources/Example_NBT_Class
06:42 <+SpaceManiac> I'm not sure what you mean
06:44 < morfin> i can't understand how NBT writes\deletes tags
06:45 <+SpaceManiac> I don't know anything about that specific piece of code
06:46 <+SpaceManiac> Compound tags are a name->value mapping, lists are lists
06:47 < morfin> ok i will explain: how it writes new data in the middle of file?
06:49 < dx> are you interested in that particular implementation or nbt in general?
06:50 < morfin> nbt in general
06:53 < morfin> as example i need to write new data in chunk, i should move all data following nbt i change
06:55 < dx> i'm not sure if i get it. are you trying to do in-place editing?
06:56 < morfin> yes
06:57 < dx> any reason that prevents you from doing the usual deserialize / serialize cycle?
06:57 < morfin> i do not unserstand how NBT works
06:57 < dx> http://wiki.vg/NBT#Specification
06:58 < morfin> i should deserialize\serialize whole thing when need to change something?
06:58 < morfin> hmm
06:59 < dx> well, i guess you could manage to do some in-place editing to an extent but that's going to be harder than parsing the whole thing
06:59 < dx> even more considering that there are lots of libraries that do that for you already
07:00 < morfin> but i'll need to do that each time i send to user new chunk )
07:00 < winny> i think serializing the entire thing is best if you're going to do a lot of edits -- here i kind of cheated. https://gist.github.com/winny-/6043044
07:02 < dx> morfin: if you're sending chunks then you need to have an in-memory parsed version of the nbt anyway
07:03 < dx> so if you have that already, serializing should be a matter of a single function call, unless you want to prematurely optimize
07:19 < morfin> which is evinl
07:19 < morfin> that woulld be like cache
08:59 < morfin> how do you think does packet order matter for endpoint?
09:00 < morfin> i think that should not matter
13:31 < morfin> hm minecraft just gzips whole nbt when sending\saving to file
13:32 < winny> if you want to be reliable in the impossible chance you are working with uncompressed nbt's, you may check for the magic number for gzip
13:33 < morfin> ok but about regions
13:33 < winny> 0x1F 0x8B
13:33 < morfin> to save one chunk i should save whole region?
13:33 < winny> ^ first two bytes if they match it's probably gzipped
13:33 < morfin> i know
13:34 < morfin> but region is 32x32 
13:34 < morfin> looks like very non-optimal way to save world
13:38 < morfin> does all editors load region 32x32 ungzip and then when you save compress whole region and save to file?
13:39 < morfin> as example MCEdit
13:41 < winny> i wish i could contribute with knowledge -- never worked with chunks
13:42 < dividuum> did you have a look at http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Region_file_format?
13:43 < dividuum> the header tells you where to find the each chunk data within that file
13:43 < dividuum> so if you want to load only a single chunk, seek to that location, read and uncompress it
13:44 < dividuum> ok. forget what i said. that's the region format. anvil is different
13:45 < dividuum> oh. only the way chunks are encoded changed. so the basic idea is still the same
13:50 < morfin> but still
13:50 < morfin> there is one file for 32x32 chunks(mca as i know) 
13:51 < morfin> so you decompress, read where is chunk located,read it, then change, then write and finally compress whole thing
13:52 < BizarreCake> You only compress the chunk you're modifying, not the whole 32x32 region.
13:53 < morfin> ow
13:53 < morfin> wait
13:54 < morfin> oh
14:04 < morfin> anyway
14:06 < morfin> wiki says empty sections do not save
14:37 < morfin> does that mean there no zeroes?
14:37 < morfin> in chunk
14:38 < morfin> or it means empty chunks are not being saved
14:52 < BizarreCake> morfin: It means that the chunk's location in the header will be set to zero, and its data will not be present.
14:53 < morfin> anyway i am not sure about changed chunks
14:53 < morfin> since there can be variable number of entities
14:53 < BizarreCake> What do you mean?
14:54 < morfin> http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Chunk_format
14:54 < morfin> there is entities section
14:55 < BizarreCake> Okay, and?
15:00 < dividuum> if you want to change a chunk inside a region file, make sure the compressed size fits into the old space. If not, just append it to the end of the region file. Yes: There is potentially lost space in there.
15:01 < morfin> :O?
15:02 < morfin> that was what about i was not sure
15:05 < morfin> so just change chunk location and that's all?
15:07 < dividuum> yes. update the header accordingly
15:07 < morfin> oh
15:08 < morfin> lol
15:08 < morfin> is that how vanilla doing that?
15:08 < TheRay_> hey i wrote an proxy with netty for Minecraft but how i can extract the packet contens to get the username ?
15:11 <+sadimusi> TheRay_: wait for a login start packet http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Login_Start
15:11 < morfin> hmm
15:12 < morfin> that ,
15:12 < TheRay_> okay and how i can read the content of the packet?
15:12 < morfin> that means theoretically i can "rollback" one chunk just modifying it's location 
15:13 <+sadimusi> TheRay_: do you know how packets are structured?
15:13 < TheRay_> no i never worked with packets
15:13 <+sadimusi> I suggest you read this http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Packets and this http://wiki.vg/Data_types
15:14 < morfin> hehe so much problems i had
15:14 < morfin> with VarInt
15:14 < TheRay_> what the hell is a varint xD?
15:15 < morfin> read and you'll see
15:15 <+sadimusi> http://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/encoding#varints
15:15 < morfin> i still did not convert into big endian floats\doubles :(
15:55 < dividuum> Dinnerbone, Grum: not sure if that helps with skin delivery (i guess it's the request count, not the bandwidth), but i just tested 100k skins and optimized them using optipng and advdef. reduces size to 90.7%
16:00 < dx> dividuum: is that 90% less or 10% less?
16:01 < dividuum> 10% less
16:01 <+sadimusi> certainly 10% less
16:01 < dx> well maybe they were mspaint compressed pngs
16:01 < dividuum> i guess it can be more, if I use a 1bit alpha channel. but i didn't test that yet
16:02 <+sadimusi> many of those skins come from skin sites which already use optifine or similar
16:03 < morfin> intersting how many times chunks are being copied 
16:03 < morfin> MCEdit shows "hidden" versions of chunk?
16:09 < TheRay_> sadimusi: how i can extract the name of the login packet ?
16:11 <+sadimusi> the packet should contain nothing but the name as a utf-8 string, prefixed with its lengh as a varint
16:12 < TheRay_> moment also the lenght of the string = varint = playername ?
16:12 <+sadimusi> you're german? :D
16:12 < TheRay_> yes xD
16:13 <+sadimusi> did you manage to extract the raw data from the packet?
16:13 < TheRay_> in an old project of me 
16:14 < TheRay_> and the packet contains my ingame name but with a lot of unknown characters
16:14 < TheRay_> also like question marks
16:14 <+sadimusi> can I see your code?
16:15 < TheRay_> moment
16:16 < TheRay_> http://hastebin.com/wohufafaju.coffee
16:17 < TheRay_> my hopeless attempt to filter out the names with split etc
16:17 < TheRay_> xD
16:17 <+sadimusi> o.O
16:17 <+sadimusi> what do you use it for btw?
16:18 < TheRay_> http://prntscr.com/3a7vjp mean this question marks
16:19 < TheRay_> btw ?
16:20 <+sadimusi> by the way
16:20 < TheRay_> soory i don't understand teh question xD (bad english)
16:20 < TheRay_> *the
16:20 < morfin> that's UTF-8 )
16:20 < morfin> lol
16:21 <+sadimusi> if you want we can continue this privately in german
16:21 < morfin> theray
16:21 < morfin> are you sure you properly readed data?
16:22 < morfin> first varint packet length second packet id, then data follows
16:22 < morfin> strings are prepended by varint(length)
16:32 < morfin> oh shi*
16:34 < morfin> reading packet 0x21 and that looks pretty scary
18:05 < TheRay_> how i can cast a UnpooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf to a bytebuffer ?
18:14 < conehead> In general the ByteBuf operations are preferred to those of ByteBuffer, but you can use ByteBuf#nioBuffer() if you *really* need a ByteBuffer
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05:08 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 1 commit [+1/-0/±6] http://git.io/KtX4fQ
05:08 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 9657fd5 - Updated spawn player packet, works for offline mode, online mode might work but untested
11:03 < morfin> hm
11:03 < morfin> i guess server sends Entity teleport even for endermans
17:26 < astradev> By the way, is damage from enchantments (Like a sword with sharpness V) calculated client side or server side? I'm assuming server side.
17:28 < shoghicp> astradev: the client only sends the packet that it has hit an entity
17:28 < shoghicp> nothing else
17:28 < shoghicp> so yes, server-side
17:29 < astradev> Mkay. Another question. Does anyone know the equation for calculating bow drop? I can't make heads nor tails of the source for it.
17:31 < shoghicp> bow drop?
17:31 < shoghicp> what do you mean?
17:31 < astradev> Arrow drop, sorry.
17:32 < shoghicp> hmm?
17:32 < shoghicp> for skeletons?
17:32 < astradev> As in, the curve of the arrow when it drops due to gravity and loss of momentum.
17:32 < astradev> I need to figure out that curve so I can figure out what blocks the arrow passes through.
17:32 < shoghicp> ah, it uses the same physics used for other entities
17:32 < shoghicp> but with different drag
17:33 < shoghicp> astradev: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Entity#Motion_of_entities
17:37 < astradev> So how do I use this? Heh.
17:38 < shoghicp> well, you will have to use those parameters to make the calculations
17:38 < shoghicp> I'll be implementing that next month
17:39 < astradev> Implementing what in what?
17:39 < morfin> hello
17:40 < morfin> is there any way to check how many unused chunks(not referenced) in region?
17:41 < shoghicp> morfin: you mean, not generated
17:41 < shoghicp> ?
17:41 < astradev> shoghicp: Implementing what in what?
17:41 < shoghicp> astradev: implementing physics and collision detection in my server
17:42 < morfin> no
17:42 < morfin> chunks which was written to the end of file and link was changed from old to new
17:42 < astradev> Ahh. I was going to calculate the blocks an arrow was passing through ahead of time so a player would basically avoid the arrow.
17:43 < shoghicp> morfin: sectors that are garbage?
17:43 < morfin> like that
17:43 < morfin> outdated chunks
17:43 < shoghicp> well, I did a GC for that :)
17:43 < morfin> lol?
17:44 < shoghicp> you just create a map of the used chunks using the location table
17:44 < morfin> :D
17:44 < morfin> so you recreate regions
17:44 < morfin> using only used stuff
17:44 < shoghicp> when closing them
17:44 < shoghicp> yep
17:44 < morfin> that can be a good idea)
17:44 < shoghicp> https://github.com/PocketMine/PocketMine-MP/blob/Core-Rewrite/src/pocketmine/level/format/anvil/RegionLoader.php#L156
17:44 < morfin> i am not sure what's wrong with my calculation
17:44 < shoghicp> that is not the latest version, but works
17:45 < shoghicp> lastSector is the last sector used (so it does things fatser)
17:45 < shoghicp> you can just skip that thing
17:46 < shoghicp> remember that if a chunk has 2 used sectors, you need to flag two ;D
17:46 < astradev> shoghicp: Could you direct me to some resources to help me understand what to do with that data?
17:47 < morfin> shit i forgot that there is 1024 chunks )
17:48 < morfin> i was calculating how many chunks i can fit on 2TB hdd 
17:48 < shoghicp> morfin: remember the last update sector
17:48 < shoghicp> astradev: acceleration = gravity, drag is proportional, I think
17:48 < morfin> if average size of region is ~3MB
17:48 < shoghicp> 90% 1 sector, 99% 2 sectors
17:49 < shoghicp> well
17:49 < morfin> i got like 715776516
17:49 < shoghicp> a bit bigger now
17:49 < morfin> wait what
17:49 < morfin> pocket version uses same format?
17:49 < morfin> anvil i mean
17:50 < shoghicp> morfin: no, but I'm going to use it
17:50 < morfin> oow
17:50 < shoghicp> 16x16 chunks in MCPE are 23MB
17:50 < shoghicp> also
17:50 < morfin> :D
17:50 < shoghicp> they are changing the format now
17:50 < shoghicp> to use a modified LevelDB library
17:50 < morfin> i am thinking maybe use own format :)
17:50 < shoghicp> (for infinite worlds)
17:50 < morfin> because i think anvil is a bit retarded
17:51 < shoghicp> I've a lib for the MCPE format, but things there don't work fine
17:51 < shoghicp> reads are ok, writes can corrupt it sometimes
17:51 < astradev> shoghicp: Huh? Not really that good with physics. 
17:51 < shoghicp> also, Anvil is not finished, I'm implementing it now
17:51 < morfin> not sure 
17:52 < morfin> use original format => compatibility or use own one comfortable for me
17:52 < shoghicp> astradev: well, learn about them
17:52 < shoghicp> morfin: I've converters from MCPE -> own format and own format -> MCPE
17:53 < morfin> i just thinked about convertor)
17:53 < astradev> Hm.
17:54 < morfin> anvil is non-optimal at least because 1. chunks have fixed size: so you have to store even nothing
17:54 < morfin> i mean air
17:54 < shoghicp> you don't have to store them :P
17:54 < morfin> wait
17:54 < shoghicp> Anvil removes air mini chunks, or non-existent chunks
17:55 < morfin> Data: 2048 bytes of block data additionally defining parts of the terrain. 4 bits per block.
17:55 < morfin> ow
17:55 < morfin> not that: Blocks: 4096 bytes of block IDs defining the terrain. 8 bits per block, plus the bits from the below Add tag.
17:55 < morfin> but that's being stored in sub-sections
17:56 < morfin> ok nothing do not store
17:56 < shoghicp> empty sections ;D
17:56 < shoghicp> those are not stored
17:56 < morfin> but ..
17:56 < morfin> as i said you have to append updated chunks to the end of file each time you can't fit data
17:57 < shoghicp> or I can use a global map and try to find empty spaces ;)
17:57 < shoghicp> but yeah
17:57 < shoghicp> just append them
17:57 < morfin> lol
17:57 < shoghicp> later, you can remove the garbage chunks
17:57 < morfin> that's a hack i think
17:58 < shoghicp> Minecraft does that, right?
17:58 < morfin> not sure about that
17:58 < shoghicp> oh. Then I'll write a tool to do that, and test
17:58 < morfin> i am not sure Minecraft cleanup
17:58 < shoghicp> read index, move things, remove unused data
17:58 < morfin> anyway
17:58 < shoghicp> I've some chunks right here, I'll test now
17:59 < morfin> ok but storing entities in chunk
18:00 < shoghicp> why not? that way if that chunk is loaded/unloaded, you can load/unload entities right away
18:01 < morfin> i was thinking about something raw btw
18:01 < morfin> like key=>value storage
18:01 < morfin> but then loading can be slow :(
18:01 < morfin> because of chaos
18:02 < shoghicp> LevelDB
18:02 < shoghicp> I think that is what they are going to do
18:02 < shoghicp> well, the format is not ready yet, so I don't have a test world
18:04 < shoghicp> also, reading/saving in sectors is faster for HDDs
18:04 < shoghicp> SDDs too
18:06 < morfin> leveldb?
18:06 < morfin> lol
18:07 < morfin> what about hm
18:07 < morfin> accessing random data
18:08 < shoghicp> https://code.google.com/p/leveldb/
18:09 < morfin> i see it
18:09 < shoghicp> I don't know more than that :S
18:10 < shoghicp> Since they use a custom lib (better compression), and I can't get it to compile on all OS
18:10 < shoghicp> I'll have to implement a basic reader
18:10 < morfin> ?
18:10 < morfin> where you can't get it to compile
18:10 < shoghicp> Windows, with the PHP bindings
18:11 < morfin> what about without php
18:11 < shoghicp> also, iOS might fail too
18:11 < morfin> i am using C++ :)
18:11 < morfin> and that's C 
18:12 < morfin> i guess they're using PODs for data
18:13 < morfin> oh that's C++ 
18:17 < shoghicp> morfin: the cleanup script did something
18:20 < shoghicp> yeah, it works
18:20 < shoghicp> removed 38 sectors, 0.148 MB
18:27 < shoghicp> morfin: do you have a large enough region file?
--- Day changed jeu. avril 17 2014
01:36 < CodyCody> Hey, is anyone here that could help me with the Minecraft Protocol? In the packets I want to send I require the datatype Slot. Is there any way I can get this data out of the slot's position?
01:38 < shoghicp> CodyCody: http://wiki.vg/Slot
01:39 < CodyCody> Yeah, I have read that before but I cannot use it. What I am trying to do is: Send a Packet to change the item currently held in the Player's hand, then place a block with that item
01:40 < CodyCody> Now in order to place the block I need to find the data saved in this Slot, can I somehow read that out via the number of the slot?
01:40 <+sadimusi> the server sends you the whole inventory when you log in
01:42 < CodyCody> Oh, thank you, totally forgot about that :O
02:13 < umby24> and there are tons of examples of how to read slot data as well :P
03:29  * md_5 pokes TkTech 
14:07 < Brottweiler> dav1d: lol
14:08 < dav1d> Brottweiler: I am sorry
14:08 < Brottweiler> dav1d: what happened? xD
14:08 < dav1d> Brottweiler: I have no idea what happened, server just shut down yesterday evening for no reason
14:08 < Brottweiler> the server box?
14:08 < dav1d> everything is fine
14:08 < dav1d> yes
14:08 < Brottweiler> linode's fault?
14:08 < dav1d> and the logs stop 7 days before
14:08 < Brottweiler> :o
14:08 < dav1d> Brottweiler: maybe hetzner
14:09 < dav1d> gonna write a support ticket
14:09 < Brottweiler> okidoki
14:11 < dav1d> it definitly wasn't a clean shutdown, few leftover .pid files existed
15:11 < LambdaSix> Don't suppose if anyone knows if the minecraft protocol is actually protocol-buffer based or just borrows varint from there? :P
15:16 <+Fador> I haven't seen anything else from protocol buffer..
15:16 < LambdaSix> I was going to write up some .proto's from the info on the vg wiki, but seems like that wouldn't work :P
15:24 < TkTech> md_5: What's up
15:45 < Batman_> Hey guys, I'm having trouble with reading the "Player Position and Look" Packet because I can't figure out how to read the doubles out of it. Can someone help me with that?
15:49 < LambdaSix> Just read 8 bytes?
16:03 < Batman_> It's giving me values that are extremely small when I do that, they are close to zero (3 * 10^-318) when they should be -5000 in reality
16:07 < LambdaSix> If you're using java, it's something like ByteBuffer.wrap(bytes).getDouble()
16:11 < Batman_> I'm using C#, I can read integers and strings just fine, but I cant read doubles :/  What I'm doing is I save the next 8 bytes from the stream into a byte[], then I am converting the byte[] to a double
16:12 < Batman_> nvm, I think I found the problem. Had to reverse the byte array <.
16:13 < Batman_> Sorry for that then and thank you anyway xD
16:14 < LambdaSix> Oh, yeah
16:14 < LambdaSix> Minecraft pushes everything across as big endian, forgot that.
16:25 < morfin> even float\double
16:30 <+Amaranth> Is it not normal for float and double to be in network byte order?
16:31 <+Amaranth> I mean Minecraft probably only uses it because it's what Java uses, not because it's what you should use on the network, but still
16:36 < TkTech> Amaranth: IEEE 754 doesn't specify, so realistically you can never assume it's big or little endian.
16:37 <+Amaranth> TkTech: In memory or on disk, sure. I'm talking about on the network though, RFC 1700 should rule there
16:38 < LambdaSix> Network order says BE, but some networks are LE :(
16:39 < LambdaSix> (Though yeah, IP is BE)
16:39 <+Amaranth> Sure sometimes people do little endian over the network but it seemed like morfin was surprised floats and doubles were big endian over the network or something
16:39 < LambdaSix> I guess it depends how you read it, most network librarys do BE=>LE for you automagically
16:40 < LambdaSix> Unless you're on a BE system, ntohs and nthol are no-ops on BE systems
16:40 < TkTech> Amaranth: "should" in a perfect world. It's entirely up to the application :)
16:40 < TkTech> LambdaSix: You can't just read floating point numbers in some languages, like C.
16:41 < TkTech> Doing it incorrectly will cause an FP fault and weird results
16:41 <+Amaranth> I could see using LE if you're working entirely privately on a network of x86 machines but if you can't afford the byte swap you should probably just get new hardware
21:37 < morfin> how do you think is that possible to make player travel around world
21:37 < morfin> i mean if you reach -15000 you go to the other side of map without teleportation
21:38 < shoghicp> morfin: wrap the world chunks
21:38 < morfin> hm?
21:39 < shoghicp> make a generator that wraps the world
21:39 < shoghicp> for example, an island
21:39 < shoghicp> and the borders are all water
21:39 < shoghicp> so they match
21:39 < morfin> lol
21:39 < morfin> i'll need to explicitly limit world
21:40 < morfin> and change generator not just wrapping
21:41 < shoghicp> it's just an idea :P
21:41 < morfin> i beleive it's possible with some hacks
21:41 < morfin> because teleporting is not good idea
21:46 <+Amaranth> You'll need to make chunks wrap and teleport them internally but maintain an offset to translate player coordinates to server coordinates
22:45 < dav1d> brottweiler, the Server running my vps had issues
22:56 < Brottweiler> dav1d: o
23:10 < Bane> Is there any way to send a normal click via packets? I tried sending the Player Digging packet but it has no effect :/
23:33 < Cody_> Hmm, I'm sending packets to my own server, I do not get any errors on the server and the client when sending, indicating that the packets are correct. However any packet beyond the chat packet does not show any effect, my client can  receive just fine. What am I doing wrong? 
23:53 < Thinkofdeath> Cody_: If you don't respond to Player movement packets from the server it will ignore most packets you send (last time I checked anyway)
23:55 < Cody_> That could be the problem, thanks. How would I answer them though?  Just send a packet with the same values? 
--- Day changed ven. avril 18 2014
00:01 < Thinkofdeath> Cody_: yep
00:02 < Cody_> Alright thanks, it was a major problem in my client xD
03:16 < Bane> I set my client to always answer the PlayerPositionAndLook Packets with the same values the server gives me, but the server keeps responding as if those values were wrong :O
03:18 < Bane> And now the Player that my client spawns seems to be invulnerable against every damage source but mobs, while he is also unable to interact with anything :/
04:46 < umby24> Bane: Are you sending stance correctly?
04:50 < umby24> k
04:56 <+md_5> <TkTech> md_5: What's up
04:56 <+md_5> TkTech was gonna say you should voice TheUnnamedDude 
04:56 <+md_5> blargh
04:56 <+md_5> TkTech I mean Thinkofdeath 
04:57 <+md_5> voice Thinkofdeath 
04:57 < morfin> he is devoiced?
05:10 < morfin> hmm
05:10 < morfin> there not so many packet types incoming from client
05:10 < morfin> but lots of padkes from server to client
05:14 <+SpaceManiac> this is an accurate assessment
06:12 < Eviltechie> 00:10 <@jamietech> at least joe.to doesn't use a forum portal plugin for the homepage
06:12 < Eviltechie> oops
09:29 < gre-> hey
09:30 < gre-> i got a problem with mc in fullscreen, mc window is displaying my wallpaper when i push f11 (fullscreen)
09:30 < gre-> [08:42:37] [Client thread/INFO]: LWJGL Version: 2.9.1
09:30 < gre-> [08:42:37] [Client thread/ERROR]: Couldn't initialize twitch   stream
09:30 < gre-> any idea to fix it pls? ty
09:43 < dx> gre-: wrong channel for that, try #minecraft
09:53 < gre-> noob
09:54 < prplz> dx you noob!
09:54 < dx> lol
09:56 < prplz> :D
17:56 < Ben___> Can anyone help me? My Client can receive any packet just fine, but can only send ChatMessage Packets flawless; If I try to send a Player Held Item change packet however, the effect of it only takes place on reconnect. Further on, things like the PlayerDiggingPacket do not work at all. I keep sending position updates every 100 ms with position values I receive from the Server, but the Player my client spawns can not be moved at all (
--- Day changed sam. avril 19 2014
16:33 < Myreek> Hey, anyone knows which packets I have to send for a Server to acknowledge my Client? I keep sending the Server the PlayerPacket and the PlayerPositionAndLookPacket, but the server keeps spamming me with the latter :/
17:01 < MrARM_> You have to get a spawn position packet before sensing your position
17:02 < MrARM_> *sending
17:18 < Myreek> Still not working, it keeps sending me the PlayerPosAndLook Packet, which I answer with the same values immediately
17:18 < MrARM> Probably you don't
17:20 < Myreek> Hmm, do I maybe have to apply gravity to the player? Could that be why the server is complaining about my position?
17:21 < Myreek> I checked the values multiple times, I'll see if anything's wrong there
17:22 < MrARM> Nope, you don't have to
17:24 < Myreek> Alright, so it's an issue with the way I send my values :/
17:45 < Myreek> Nevermind, I think I found the problem: The X and Z values sent by the server are incredibly high while the Y coordinate is close to 0 <.<
17:45 < Myreek> Should have noticed that earlier xD
18:06 < foxyhunter> Has anyone here been able to get the 1.0.6 blood n bones server to work with mcpc today
18:08 < foxyhunter> was bored so i decide to make a server for the modpack because its hard--but mcpc seems to hate it--or vice versa
18:08 < foxyhunter> works fine without it
--- Day changed dim. avril 20 2014
04:32 < Vijfhoek> Little question, http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Login states that I need to send a "Handshake State=2" package to join. Now I remember this handshake packet being a thing in the past, but apparently it doesn't exist anymore
04:32 < Vijfhoek> What do I send instead of that Handshake package?
04:38 < Vijfhoek> Or is http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Handshake meant to be clientbound
09:04 <+Amaranth> Vijfhoek: Clientbound means Server->Client. To join a server you need to send a packet Client->Server so Serverbound
11:01 < WizardCM> i'm looking at the Resource Pack documentation on the MC wiki, and the font properties section has a bit of json in it. anyone know where it's supposed to go?
12:04 <+Amaranth> Huh, I guess they got rid of glyph_sizes.bin
12:08 < Thinkofdeath> Amaranth: I still see it?
12:09 <+Amaranth> http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Resource_pack#Font_Properties makes it sound like this is handled with json now
12:11 < Thinkofdeath> I guess it isn't used by mojang yet? I can't find it anywhere
12:11 <+Amaranth> Everything else I can find makes it sound like for a custom font you have to edit glyph_sizes.bin too and/or use mcpatcher
12:16 < Dinnerbone> I don't think we use it yet
13:51 < Vijfhoek> Amaranth: Oh right. Thanks
15:31 < Vijfhoek> "Note: With the death of cia.vc, we are seeking a viable replacement. Please offer your suggestion in the channel." There is a set of replacements on the bottom of http://cia.vc/
15:31 < Vijfhoek> Notifico (http://n.tkte.ch/) looks pretty nice
15:36 < dx> lol
15:37 < dx> Vijfhoek: we're using notifico, and the guy who wrote notifico is the same guy who wrote the text you quoted from mcdevs.org, who happens to be an op of this channel
15:37 < Vijfhoek> Oh cool
15:38 < Vijfhoek> In that case, Tyler, nice job
15:40 < dx> he's TkTech here (i got stuck for a second thinking "who's tyler?")
15:41 < Vijfhoek> Got it from the copyright at the bottom
15:41 < Vijfhoek> What repos get shared here?
15:42 < dx> hmm good question, not sure if there's a way to lookup that
15:42 < dx> other than grepping my logs. i guess that could work
15:43 < dx> Vijfhoek: http://ix.io/bO1
15:44 < Vijfhoek> Cool
15:44 < Vijfhoek> Would be fun if Minecraft's repo got shared here
15:44 < dx> you're forgetting about the small detail that minecraft is closed source
15:45 < Vijfhoek> The bot doesn't share anything, does it?
15:45 < dx> share how?
15:45 < Vijfhoek> Just the commit messages
15:45 < Vijfhoek> Oh wait, cia.vc shared links too
15:45 < Vijfhoek> And of course it needs a hook, which is private
15:45 < Vijfhoek> Don't mind me
15:45 < dx> yeah it has diff links
15:45 < dx> and mojang doesn't publish commit messages either
--- Day changed lun. avril 21 2014
03:08 < Not-001> [fCraft] fragmer * r2335 2 files : Updated version number to 0.644 (missed in previous commit).
11:05 < falteckz> What's the correct way of placing a block?
11:05 < falteckz> Are the x,y,z coords the space you wish to place it on ?
11:05 < falteckz> Or the block you're placing against ? 
11:12 < falteckz> HeadY has been removed from latest packets, that's wonderful news
11:12 < falteckz> That packet was a nuisance today
11:21 < SinZ> iirc its the intended x,y,z
11:26 < falteckz> Oh Hey SinZ
11:26 < falteckz> Thanks
11:34 < falteckz> SinZ, https://github.com/Bukkit/mc-dev/blob/caad082debcee0be4758837af916ef808e55c182/net/minecraft/server/PlayerConnection.java#L366-L392
11:34 < falteckz> Probably the block you're interacting with
11:34 < falteckz> Not the destination
11:37 < falteckz> Still can't seem to get it to work
11:38 < falteckz> Wish I had a hacked client that made viewing packets clean
12:10 < bilde2910> Hello everyone :)
12:11 < bilde2910> I'm trying to make a program that will read Minecraft's Anvil format region files, to get information about which blocks, entities etc. the world consists of. I found the guide at http://wiki.vg/User:Sprenger120 , but I'm having a hard time understanding how it works. I'm just wondering if anyone has made a working implementation for reading the Anvil files?
12:12 < bilde2910> If they have, is there any chance I could look at their code to see how it's being done? I already tried studying Mojang's Region->Anvil converter, but it hasn't been of any help.
12:27 < falteckz> bilde2910, What are you coding this in ? 
12:27 < bilde2910> Java
14:30 < Vijfhoek> Hm, with play packet 0x0C, does the server send multiple Data.Name, Data.Value and Data.Signatures?
14:30 < Vijfhoek> Clientbound
14:38 < Thinkofdeath> Vijfhoek: It can but currently doesn't
16:49 < winny> where can i read about VarInts?
16:55 < Flemmard> maybe google
16:56 < winny> anything one may recommend to me?
16:56 < Flemmard> https://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/encoding
16:56 < Flemmard> maybe something like that
16:56 < Flemmard> dunno
16:56 < Flemmard> it's probably linked on wiki
17:36 < Vijfhoek> It is
17:36 < Vijfhoek> http://wiki.vg/Data_types
17:41 < Vijfhoek> I don't see why VarInts are used for the handshake packet though
17:41 < Vijfhoek> The variable size shouldn't matter, considering it is only sent once
17:42 < Vijfhoek> And is an uint64_t really not enough for the protocol version?
17:43 < Vijfhoek> If there was a new protocol made every millisecond, it would last more than 580,000 millenia
17:45 < Vijfhoek> </rant>
17:55 < bilde2910> Argh... I don't get this...
17:56 < bilde2910> No one here has an implementation of the Anvil map format though?
18:00 < winny> i'll add a link from the serverlistping pag
18:38 -!- Irssi: #mcdevs: Total of 135 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 10 voices, 124 normal]
18:39 < rom1504> roblabla: are you there ? I think it's still there https://github.com/nevercast/mineflayer/blob/feature-1.7/lib/plugins/chat.js#L20
18:39 < rom1504> but only for 1.6.2 it seems
18:39 < roblabla> hmm ?
18:39 < roblabla> yeah, I'm looking at it
18:40 < roblabla> I really want to remove this if check
18:40 < roblabla> and remove the whisper
18:40 < roblabla> because it's stupid, there's no way to reliably check if a message was a chat or a whisper
18:40 < roblabla> nor is there any reliable way to know who sent it, really
18:42 < rom1504> well pseudo don't contain spaces so the idea is if you remove what's before the space then you get the pseudo
18:42 < roblabla> My opinion is, we should just have our own internal ChatMessage class, which would act like minecraft's JSONs without the translate, and with a method to retrieve a string without the controls
18:42 < roblabla> doesn't work all the time
18:42 < roblabla> HeroChat and other plugins sometimes prefix the permission group
18:43 < roblabla> Essentials changes the username to a nick
18:43 < roblabla> I mean, if we were to only support minecraft_server, then sure we can get it reliably. But that's a bit ridiculous since the majority of the servers run bukkit/spigot
18:43 < rom1504> hum I see, the problem is the pseudo of the sender is sometimes needed, for example so that the bot take only the command of the owner
18:44 < roblabla> zuazo had a good alternative
18:44 < rom1504> worst cast even if the pseudo is not recognized then the message should at least pass through
18:44 < roblabla> https://github.com/andrewrk/mineflayer/pull/165
18:44 < roblabla> This is a good compromise IMO
18:44 < roblabla> I didn't check the implementation, but the idea is good
18:44 < rom1504> right now I don't even get bot.on('chat' on my spigot server
18:45 < roblabla> yeah, I saw
18:45 < roblabla> I didn't test the PR yet
18:46 < rom1504> yeah that make sense, basically one plugin by chat system
18:47 < roblabla> all fulfilling the same contract
18:48 < roblabla> Just wondering, anyone know what is the size of a player ? AKA, difference between feet and eye height ?
18:49 < roblabla> nevermind, it's 1.62
18:51 < rom1504> I was wondering whether craft problems in mineflayer (https://github.com/andrewrk/mineflayer/issues/144) could have been fixed by minecraft updates but can't test it without chat
18:52 < roblabla> well you could disable the chat plugin by moving it out :P
18:53 < roblabla> talk about long-standing bug
18:53 < roblabla> one year old issue
18:54 < roblabla> I think I'm going to pull the work nevercast did up 'till now, and try to integrate zuazo's PR. 
18:54 < rom1504> yeah, that was a problem in my bot using mineflayer (I was trying to make a command get 1 diamond sword which work by crafting, getting basic ressources, ... and I got stuck because craft is broken)
18:55 < rom1504> that'd be nice
18:55 < rom1504> roblabla: moving out the chat plugin ?
18:56 < roblabla> rom1504, well, modularizing the chat.
18:56 < roblabla> I'm going over zuazo's implementation to see how it works;
18:56 < rom1504> oh yeah ok
--- Day changed mar. avril 22 2014
01:12 -!- Irssi: #mcdevs: Total of 135 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 10 voices, 124 normal]
04:41 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 2 commits [+0/-0/±4] http://git.io/WvXnzw
04:41 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 722281c - Added and switched to using sendSignChange.
04:41 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac e206edb - Naive implementations of getPlayer/getOfflinePlayer with UUID.
20:07 < barneygale> Hi all. When doing a request to /session/minecraft/join, what should selectedProfile be? a dict with 'id' and 'name' members, or just a string?
20:07 < barneygale> Also I expect I should be getting an HTTP 200 back, right?
20:10 < Thinkofdeath> barneygale: string and yes
20:11 < barneygale> what should the string be? profile id or name?
20:11 < Thinkofdeath> id
20:11 < barneygale> thanks very much!
20:11 < Thinkofdeath> np :)
20:12 < barneygale> Kind of silly how on login, selectedProfile is a dict, and on join it's a string...
20:19 < barneygale> Thinkofdeath: is offline mode documented anywhere?
20:19 < Thinkofdeath> Don't think so
20:20 < barneygale> what's different?
20:20 < Thinkofdeath> They just skip the encryption part of the protocol
20:20 < barneygale> sweet
22:08 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 4 commits [+6/-3/±48] http://git.io/f7lB2Q
22:08 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 530b77b - Changed tags to not include name, started adding helpers in CompoundTag.
22:08 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 6ddd3db - Switched everything to use new NBT stuff, minor improvements.
22:08 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac b27b310 - Further improvements and cleanup, and complete unit tests.
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02:39 < Not-001> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 0e0fe39 - More fixes to world I/O for new NBT stuff.
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02:24 < Not-001> [mineflayer] nevercast tagged 3fa3141 as 1.1.0 http://git.io/CD_R7g
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18:00 < Not-001> [mcprotocol] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±102] http://git.io/c9YOzg
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06:17 <+SirCmpwn> fragmer: you're scryptonite, right?
11:53 < Vijfhoek> Osst
11:54 < Vijfhoek> Psst*
11:54 < Vijfhoek> Wiki guys
11:54 < Vijfhoek> It's Markus Persson
11:54 < Vijfhoek> Not Perrson
11:57 < dx> peerson
11:58 < Flemmard> why not ppeerrssoonn
11:59 < dx> Vijfhoek: it would be helpful if you actually mentioned where you saw that "perrson"
11:59 < Vijfhoek> Oh
11:59 < Vijfhoek> The captcha
11:59 < Vijfhoek> Woops, meant to say that
12:00 < dx> ok cool
12:02 < dx> TkTech: please fix spelling of wiki registration textcha from «Markus "____" Perrson» to «Markus "____" Persson»
12:02 < dx> Vijfhoek: issue redirected to our great leader
12:03 < dx> also, damn, we still get a lot of spammers
12:05 < Vijfhoek> Are you by any chance French?
12:05 < dx> nope
12:05 < Vijfhoek> Hm
12:06 < Vijfhoek> France is the only country I know that uses «»
12:06 < dx> us-intl keyboard, i got it there, and it's better than nesting quotes in a confusing way
12:06 < Vijfhoek> Yeah okay
12:06 < dx> sometimes i even use 「...」
12:06 < dx> because it looks cool
12:06 < Vijfhoek> us-intl keyboard here too btw, it's standard here
12:07 < Vijfhoek> Alt Gr ftw
12:07 < dx> indeed
12:07 < Vijfhoek> Even though it's a software feature, really
12:07 < Flemmard> im on a french keyboard but uses us-intl ..
12:08 < Flemmard> confuses everyone that wants to use my computer, so they stop doing it :D
12:10 < dx> it would be mostly okay if it wasn't for shift+numbers
12:10 < dx> seems like every key layout i've used has different ordering of symbols in that row
12:11 < Flemmard> yeah, but q => z, m => ; etc
12:12 < Flemmard> but yeah symbols/numbers is kinda painful also XD
12:12 < Flemmard> the most annoying thing is to go from one to the other
12:13 < dx> also extremely common issue that probably affects anyone ever in the whole universe: "where's your @ key?"
12:13 < Flemmard> now it would be "WHER IZ UR HASHTAG KEYYY??"
12:13 < Flemmard> xD
12:56 < Vijfhoek> ^where ^is ^your ^hashtag ^key
12:58 < Flemmard> the crappy typing was made for the 'joke'
14:18 < Aragas> Hello guys!
14:22 < Aragas> I'm developing an online client for minecraft, have some troubles. 
14:22 < Aragas> I'm receiving some 0x26 (Map Chunk Bulk) packets with strange coordinates: My spawn position is about 0,0 but these packets give me chunk coords about 1000, 1000 and i have some errors with reading these packets - something is wrong with them.
14:23 < Aragas> All metadata from packet have strange coordinates
14:28 < Aragas> My client doesn't send anything except 0x00 (KeepAlive) and 0x04 (PlayerPosition) with 0x05 (PlayerLook) packets
14:30 < Aragas> I don't think that the problem is on my side - i'm just gettin' packets length, id and then read it. 
14:45 < Aragas> Still here, will be waiting for answer. Have registered
15:24 <+fragmer> SirCmpwn, I don't know what scryptonite, so I am probably not it
15:24 <+fragmer> *what scryptonite is
15:36 < dx> fragmer: probably someone who does scrypt mining
15:36 < dx> Aragas: what language?
15:40 < Aragas> dx: C#
15:40 < dx> Aragas: there's a wonderful implementation of it here https://github.com/SirCmpwn/Craft.Net
15:41 < dx> Aragas: you might want to take a look at it for inspiration, or just use it.
15:41 < Aragas> dx: yes, i use it a bit, i'm develipont my client for quite some times
15:43 < dx> Aragas: you mean your project is using Craft.Net.Client, or that you're already using that code for reference?
15:44 < Aragas> dx: Nope, i have done my own network stuff, i just use some part of other code. No references or something like this
15:47 < Aragas> dx: I need to go. I'll come back in an hour. If you are interested, here is my code: https://github.com/Aragas/MineLib.ClientWrapper
15:48 < dx> oh, neat. that helps
15:48 < Aragas> https://github.com/Aragas/MineLib.Network and that too
15:49 < Aragas> dx: Have uploaded my last version. Have fun :D
15:51 < dx> this is the point in which i realize i have no idea what to do with this code
15:51 < dx> halp
16:54 < Vijfhoek> Flemmard: I am aware
16:54 < Vijfhoek> And the ^s represented the user looking for the # button
16:54 < Vijfhoek> wanting to type #where #is #your #hashtag #key
16:54 < Vijfhoek> because they can only type like that
16:55 < Vijfhoek> (I'm not a grammar nazi)
17:00 < Flemmard> oh okay, sorry :D
17:01 < Flemmard> #allmakessensenow
17:01 < Flemmard> XD
17:31 < Vijfhoek> :D
17:59 < Aragas> dx: Did you like it? :D
18:00 < dx> Aragas: 10:51 < dx> this is the point in which i realize i have no idea what to do with this code
18:00 < dx> Aragas: 10:51 < dx> halp
18:01 < Aragas> dx: That's the spirit!
18:01 < dx> Aragas: \o/
18:02 < Aragas> dx: Nah, it runs only is the server is online
18:02 < dx> huh?
18:02 < dx> the bug only happens with offline mode?
18:03 < Aragas> Nope. Client runs only if the server was started, i mean
18:04 < Aragas> Local server. Or change the adress. You can't run my client or you totally dunno what to do with it?
18:08 < dx> well i don't do C# so i can't compile it to test, and i'm not sure what part of the code would be relevant to your issue
18:09 < Aragas> Chunk data is not corrupted. First bytes are correct, i mean Zlib headers or what it uses
18:09 < Aragas> I can give u readed from packed data. It is fully stored
18:09 < Aragas> All metadata, chunk data array
18:13 < Aragas> I thought it was an error by my side, but if i skip reading that packet (gettin' information from byte array) and go to the next packets - they will be not corrupted. I'm receiving bad packets from server. That's for sure
18:14 < Aragas> And this is weird
18:23 < Aragas> I tried run vanilla with that xml debug mod. Packets were sended slower, and bugged packets were not so many. 47-49 without debug, 20-35 with debug. I'm reading packets too fast? I'm just confused.
23:27 <+SirCmpwn> look what I found https://github.com/JBou/McMetroLauncher
23:27 <+SirCmpwn> I hope they'll send some of their launcher stuff back to Craft.Net, I'd like to have some of that in the lib
23:32 < TkTech> SirCmpwn: Make a ticket about it?
23:32 <+SirCmpwn> I did so
23:33 < TkTech> Jesus, they're using 2MB pictures on their homepage and must have dialup upload
23:33 < dx> SirCmpwn: what parts of craft.net do they use right now?
23:33 <+SirCmpwn> the software looks pretty cool, though
23:33 <+SirCmpwn> dx: they extend a lot of the classes in Craft.Net that provide basic launcher functionality
23:33 <+SirCmpwn> dx: i.e. Session.cs
23:34 < dx> SirCmpwn: oh, extending classes, fun.
23:34 <+SirCmpwn> https://github.com/JBou/McMetroLauncher/search?q=Craft.Net&ref=cmdform
23:35 <+SirCmpwn> https://github.com/Conji/the-syhno-project
23:35 <+SirCmpwn> >SirCmPwn
23:35 <+SirCmpwn> :/
23:35 < TkTech> Ego-search Saturday? :)
23:35 <+SirCmpwn> yeah, looking to see who's using it
23:35 < dx> sIRCmpWn
23:36 < dx> i never realized you had "irc" in your name
23:36 <+SirCmpwn> putting off fixing my kernel's header format while I do this instead :)
23:36 <+SirCmpwn> dx: neither did I
23:36 <+SirCmpwn> apparently there's an AUR package for Craft.Net
23:36 < dx> aur... why
23:36 <+SirCmpwn> <3 arch linux
23:37 < TkTech> Same here. Work to do so instead I'm making a library for the ArmAII/DayZ packfile format. http://w.tkte.ch/pypbo/pypbo.html#module-pypbo.cli
23:37 <+SirCmpwn> neato
23:37 < dx> craft.net-git depends on fnbt... and nothing else depends on either of them
23:38 < dx> is it actually useful to isntall craft.net system wide? dunno how C# libraries work
23:38 <+SirCmpwn> I suppose it could be useful
23:38 <+SirCmpwn> there's a centralized place for them, and you can reference stuff from that place
23:38 <+SirCmpwn> I generally don't bother
23:39 <+SirCmpwn> dude, like 8 people have credited me in their code for "blockY & 16"
23:39 <+SirCmpwn> dude
23:39 <+SirCmpwn> I thought maybe it was just one weird guy but no, it's several people
23:39 <+SirCmpwn> is that really difficult to figure out?
23:39 < dx> haha
23:40 < dx> we get people who use C# quite often, and we redirect all of them to the craft.net code as reference
23:40 <+SirCmpwn> i %= 10; // Credit to my 7th grade programming teacher for telling me how modulo works
23:41 < dx> it's not *that* surprising that you got 8 people that found that useful
23:45 <+SirCmpwn> https://github.com/Damgaard/TicTacToe/blob/master/.gitignore
23:45 < Aragas> Nah, nope. I think they just copy-past it without deleting this comment
23:45 < Aragas> I must have it too
23:46 <+SirCmpwn> I found my name in your repos, but for stuff that is reasonable to take
23:46 <+SirCmpwn> like cryptography
23:47 < Aragas> I'm often use your work. Really make life easy
23:47 <+SirCmpwn> glad to hear it could help
23:48 <+SirCmpwn> https://github.com/kria/TfsBot
23:48 <+SirCmpwn> should I tell him that ChatSharp is a massively overengineered, buggy piece of crap?
23:49 < dx> if he didn't notice, better not tell him
23:49 < dx> if he did, it's probably redundant to tell him
23:50 <+SirCmpwn> good point, he probably already knows
23:51 < Aragas> Looks funny
23:55 < Aragas> SirCmpwn, i wanted to ask you, you thought about graphic part for client?
23:56 <+SirCmpwn> every time I touch OpenGL, a kitten dies
23:56 <+SirCmpwn> bleh, he left
23:56 < Aragasas> Oops. Dunno what it was
23:56 <+SirCmpwn> every time I touch OpenGL, a kitten dies
23:57 <+SirCmpwn> that being said, I have an extremely half-assed attempt here: https://github.com/SirCmpwn/Crafty
23:57 < Aragasas> Why so hardcore? Why not unity or (oh yea) xna?
23:58 <+SirCmpwn> well, not Unity because I don't think it's well suited to interact with Craft.Net
23:58 <+SirCmpwn> and not XNA because XNA doesn't have great linux support
23:58 <+SirCmpwn> in any case, s/OpenGL/any 3D graphics/
23:58 < Aragasas> Yea, good point
23:59 <+SirCmpwn> someone credited me with code that I wouldn't be caught dead writing
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00:01 < Aragasas> If my work with chunks will be done, i'll try something. Have searched for some a-bit-ready code. So naive. 
00:01 <+SirCmpwn> I would love to see a Craft.Net.Rendering library, if you're willing to help out
00:01 <+SirCmpwn> with OpenTK for graphics
00:03 <+SirCmpwn> Aragasas: if you do want to help out, by the way, it'd be best to hang out in #craft.net 
00:03 < Aragasas> That would be nice. If it will work on my client, then i can easy port it to Craft.Net
00:05 < dx> SirCmpwn: XNA is pretty much deprecated and replaced by monogame, which seems to have great support of every platform ever
00:05 <+SirCmpwn> but not great coverage of the XNA API, dx
00:06 <+SirCmpwn> at least as of 8 or 9 months ago, when I last checked
00:06 <+SirCmpwn> it was particularly hurting for 3D support, though 2D was fairly mature
00:06 < dx> SirCmpwn: not sure about that, but you aren't going to start a new project basing it on the xna api anyway
00:06 < dx> oh, hmmm
00:07 < dx> yeah now that you mention it i don't think i've seen any monogame 3d projects...
00:07 < Aragasas> They have voxel engine on monogame
00:07 <+SirCmpwn> well, in any case, it wasn't great the last time I considered building a graphical client
00:07 <+SirCmpwn> which was a while ago
00:07 < Aragasas> It was called voxeliq i think
00:08 <+SirCmpwn> damn, look at all that bloom
00:08 <+SirCmpwn> https://voxeliq.codeplex.com/
00:09 < Thinkofdeath> Dear god it burns
00:09 < Aragasas> Niiiiice
00:09 < dx> doesn't have enough lens flare though
00:09 < Aragasas> I want that on my client. Now. Like crysis
00:10 <+SirCmpwn> look up sonic's shaders
00:10 < Aragasas> Hm. They don't support andoid and ios
00:11 <+SirCmpwn> oh, man, I seriously doubt Craft.Net will work on any mobile platforms
00:11 < Aragasas> I don't want crysis 5. I need just some bloom :DD
00:11 <+SirCmpwn> I had a working chat client for WP7 years ago
00:11 <+SirCmpwn> but that's the last I tried
00:12 < dx> SirCmpwn: why not? some of those new phones have the same screen resolution as my desktop pc, and 4 times more cpu cores
00:12 <+SirCmpwn> because most phone APIs are async only
00:13 <+SirCmpwn> and craft.net does its own threading and uses the syncronous .NET APIs
00:13 < Aragasas> Keepin' it work on mobile is important. We can run some serious games yet on phones
00:14 < Aragasas> like that game flapping bird. So much graphic
00:15 < Aragasas> Does that mean it will work on mobile platforms?
00:15 <+SirCmpwn> no, that means it probably won't
00:15 <+SirCmpwn> unless you feel like overhauling the core networking
00:15 <+SirCmpwn> for a fifth time
00:16 < Aragasas> Ya now, my network stuff works, except this bug with chunks
00:17 <+SirCmpwn> I wouldn't even try to get Craft.Net.Server to run on mobile
00:17 < barneygale> woo, I have client and server implementations!
00:17 <+SirCmpwn> I'd make far too many sacrifices that would make it less fun on desktop
00:17 <+SirCmpwn> barneygale: link
00:17 < barneygale> been a while since I've had one working
00:17 < Aragasas> Specially keepin it on .net 2.0
00:17 < barneygale> SirCmpwn: not online yet!
00:17 < dx> barneygale: what are you making?
00:17 < barneygale> oh sorry I should say
00:17 < barneygale> it's just a protocol library
00:17 < dx> \o/
00:17 < dx> language?
00:17 <+SirCmpwn> PHP
00:18 < dx> \o/
00:18 < Aragasas> Lol
00:18 < dx> wait..
00:18 < dx> /o\
00:18 < barneygale> the idea is to have some good skeleton code people can write auth servers, bots, chat relays, proxies, etc
00:18 < barneygale> python
00:18 <+SirCmpwn> sounds like Craft.Net.Networking, eh
00:18 < dx> barneygale: \o/
00:18 < barneygale> well, I won't pretend there aren't other libraries out there
00:18 < barneygale> heh
00:18 < Aragasas> Sounds like my stuff too :D
00:19 < barneygale> Aragasas: link?
00:19 < Aragasas> https://github.com/Aragas/MineLib.Network
00:19 < dx> barneygale: but i don't think we have any decent python libraries
00:20 < barneygale> another point is that I'm not maintaining structs for every packet
00:20 < barneygale> because I'm never going to maintain em :P
00:20 < dx> yay for packet lengths
00:20 < barneygale> yes!
00:20 < barneygale> thank fuck haha
00:21 < Aragasas> Handling packets is not that bad
00:21 < barneygale> but it should be a pretty tight, clean, easy-to-understand implementation
00:21 < barneygale> Aragasas: aye but getting login/auth in python is a pain in the arse
00:22 < Aragasas> barneygale: you mean http or crypto stuff?
00:22 < barneygale> both
00:22 < barneygale> well, mainly crypto
00:22 < dx> barneygale: that seems to be exactly the part you should prevent people from reimplementing
00:23 < barneygale> aye
00:23 < barneygale> it doesn't implement anything past auth, protocol-wise. You can add callbacks for whatever packets you're interested in
00:24 < barneygale> I might write more of the client so that it does enough to stay connected
00:24 < Aragasas> I was always wondering about Y coordinate format. Byte, short, int
00:24 < barneygale> eh its always been a mess
00:24 < Aragasas> That was *by the way*
00:24 < barneygale> I think it's better now right?
00:25 < Thinkofdeath> Yep 1.8 mostly fixes that
00:26 < Aragasas> Oh god thank for that a lot
00:26 < Thinkofdeath> http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Position
00:28 < Aragasas> Looks good
00:28 < Aragasas> And entity id was changed too!
01:07 < dx> just saw this link in an old post http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/use_udp_instead_of_tcp
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02:07 < Vijfhoek> http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Effects
02:08 < Vijfhoek> Shouldn't the second 2005 effect be 2006?
02:09 <+SpaceManiac> Probably
08:02 < Guest91646> [mineflayer] nevercast pushed 15 commits to master [+3/-0/±67] http://git.io/LDs7HA
08:02 < Guest91646> [mineflayer] roblabla 54b5920 - Preliminary work for 1.7 support
08:02 < Guest91646> [mineflayer] nevercast 2bf52ce - Update to 1.7 chat message, impl. ChatMessage class
08:02 < Guest91646> [mineflayer] nevercast 821a3c2 - Change packet id
08:02 < Guest91646> [mineflayer] ... and 12 more commits.
08:24 < Guest91646> [mineflayer] nevercast pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/VVVTvQ
08:24 < Guest91646> [mineflayer] nevercast c471b5f - Fix digger, Make equip provide error to cb
09:03 < Aragas> Who is registering these weird accounts on wiki.vg?
09:58 < dx> Aragas: welcome to the internet, we have spambots
10:22 < Aragas> dx: Spambots on...mediawiki?
18:29 < shoghicp> MrARM2: https://github.com/PocketMine/PocketMine-Android/issues/3