11:50 < MrARM> But this update will also add a config editor
11:50 < shoghicp> I'll notify you if I fix the networking bugs
11:51 < MrARM> shoghicp anyway I think that DroidPocketMine ignores the memory limit and lowers it
11:51 < MrARM> Is it possible? 
11:52 < shoghicp> you can lower it
11:52 < shoghicp> but warn them that importing MCPE maps to the PocketMine format when using low memory can corrupt them
11:53 < MrARM> not
11:53 < shoghicp> I recommend 128MB
11:53 < shoghicp> but it runs with 64MB too
11:53 < MrARM> shoghicp I think that my DroidPocketMine *currently* ignores memory limit
11:53 < shoghicp> oh xD
11:53 < shoghicp> it is php who sets it
11:54 < shoghicp> if no memory limit is in place, it defaults to 128M
11:56 < MrARM> Because it sometimes says something about overloaded server 
11:58 < MrARM> and I think you aren't awaiting 0.9.0 xD
11:58 < shoghicp> I'm not waiting ;)
11:59 < shoghicp> I'll release .12 once I have better networking & basic Minecarts
11:59 < MrARM> It will be LOOOTS of work
11:59 < shoghicp> multiworlds ;)
11:59 < shoghicp> it seems that Realms won't have infinite worlds
11:59 < MrARM> New generator...
11:59 < shoghicp> so that is a +1 for PocketMine
11:59 < shoghicp> right :S
11:59 < MrARM> Infinite worlds
12:00 < MrARM> shoghicp really? :(
12:00 < shoghicp> yep
12:00 < MrARM> Anyway I hope they won't make the payment via in app purchases
12:01 < MrARM> People without root will recompile block launcher to always send purchased and people with root will use freedom (aka freecard)
12:01 < shoghicp> if they check the tickets, they can bypass that
12:01 < shoghicp> at least on iOS
12:04 < MrARM> shoghicp Yes on Android I think they can ask Google server too
12:04 < MrARM> But... It has to be done from C++
12:04 < MrARM> And... BlockLauncher! 
12:04 < MrARM> They can hook
12:04 < shoghicp> and they can send the ticket and check via server-side ;)
12:05 < MrARM> shoghicp But we can hook it to always return true!
12:05 < MrARM> Even via proxy
12:05 < MrARM> But hooking would be simplier
12:05 < shoghicp> yep, but the realms creation is done on the server
12:06 < MrARM> hmmm
12:06 < MrARM> It's a good idea for them
12:07 < MrARM> shoghicp Are you going to support infinite worlds?
12:07 < shoghicp> yes
12:07 < shoghicp> of course ;)
12:07 < shoghicp> I can generate chunks fast enough
12:07 < MrARM> And new world generator?
12:07 < shoghicp> I've to code it
12:08 < shoghicp> I've multiple parts done
12:08 < MrARM> Is it hard?
12:08 < shoghicp> tree generators, grass generator, ore generator
12:08 < MrARM> Anyway could you make caves generator? 
12:08 < shoghicp> it is not hard, but I have to implement it ona  way that I like
12:08 < MrARM> Or its too hard?
12:08 < shoghicp> yeah
12:08 < shoghicp> It is based on the Minecraft PC one
12:08 < MrARM> I played around with perlin noise however it resulted in random stuff. ..
12:09 < MrARM> It was just random
12:09 < shoghicp> MrARM: remove the stone from a few chunks on a plain world in pocketmine-mp
12:09 < shoghicp> you will see the generated ores ;)
12:09 < shoghicp> they are like Minecraft PC
12:09 < MrARM> But... caves
12:09 < shoghicp> yep
12:09 < MrARM> That's simple
12:10 < MrARM> shoghicp I meant perlin noise for caves
12:10 < shoghicp> hmm
12:11 < shoghicp> anyway, that part is low-priority
12:11 < shoghicp> it won't be in .12
12:12 < MrARM> I am not doing a request now
12:13 < MrARM> shoghicp It's pretty much interesting how caves work in MCPC
12:13 < MrARM> They *don't* use perlin noise
12:14 < MrARM> And I think is it possible to ask an MCPE dev to give me their current apk
12:14 < MrARM> hmmm...
12:15 < shoghicp> they haven't finished it ;)
12:15 < MrARM> Yes, I know
12:15 < MrARM> I want their current one
12:15 < shoghicp> xD
12:15 < MrARM> Without saving, multiplayer and so on
12:16 < MrARM> They will just ignore me if I say this directly to they
12:17 < MrARM> shoghicp Is there a "don't harass Mojang employees" rule on #mcpedevs
12:17 < MrARM> ?
12:17 < MrARM> or #pocketmine ?
12:17 < shoghicp> yep
12:17 < MrARM> arrrr
12:18 < shoghicp> you can ask ;)
12:18 < shoghicp> but not "harass" them
12:18 < MrARM> lol
12:18 < MrARM> Awaiting jbernhardsson then. lol
12:18 < shoghicp> <DarkDemon101
12:18 < shoghicp> >jbernhardsson: hello jeb could I be a mcpe 0.9.0 tester? I am on ios and love mcpe please choose me!
12:19 < MrARM> Lol
12:19 < MrARM> Not like that
12:19 < MrARM> And jbernhardsson = jeb..?
12:20 < shoghicp> he got the name wrong too ;)
12:20 < shoghicp> > Do not harass main developers. This includes needlessly pinging them.
12:20 < shoghicp> that is the rule
12:30 < shoghicp> MrARM: he will be there on Monday ;)
12:32 < shoghicp> hmm, I think I can fix the issue with compilation
12:33 < shoghicp> if zlib wants to be built :s
12:33 < shoghicp> OH; YES!
12:33 < shoghicp> MrARM: http://status.lbsg.net/
12:44 < MrARM> shoghicp I saw it already
13:30 < shoghicp> MrARM: does DroidPocketMine support Unicode console characters?
13:32 < MrARM> I think no
13:32 < MrARM> But maybe yes
13:32 < MrARM> I don't think adding if would be hard
13:32 < MrARM> shoghicp ↑
13:32 < shoghicp> ok ;)
13:32 < shoghicp> it*
13:32 < MrARM> But no color codes
13:33 < MrARM> yes
13:33 < shoghicp> that is ANSI stuff, no problem
13:33 < shoghicp> you can call pocketmine-mp with a parameter
13:33 < shoghicp> to remove color codes
13:33 < MrARM> I do it
13:34 < MrARM> I think from v2
13:34 < shoghicp> --disable-ansi
13:34 < shoghicp> oh, and about submitting it to Play Store?
13:34 < shoghicp> is it possible?
13:34 < MrARM> I would want to support them in the future (:
13:35 < MrARM> Pretty much I-Dont-Have-A-Account stuff
13:36 < shoghicp> I can create a PocketMine account for distributing it ;)
13:36 < MrARM> Would be cool (;
13:37 < shoghicp> creating one right now ;)
13:55 < shoghicp> MrARM: done
13:55 < shoghicp> so, to publish it
13:56 < shoghicp> I'll prepare the description and everything
13:56 < MrARM> lol, I have left my DroidPocketMine on my old PC and now trying to set up it on my current one
13:56 < shoghicp> is the APK you provide OK?
13:57 < MrARM> shoghicp I think no
13:57 < MrARM> I will do a release build and correct version number
13:57 < shoghicp> :D
13:57 < shoghicp> I'll have the account ready in 2-3 days
13:57 < MrARM> However actionbarsherlock says R is missing
13:58 < MrARM> and I don't know what to do
13:59 < shoghicp> MrARM: I found a few things on Google :p
14:00 < MrARM> I am googling to
14:03 < MrARM> worked now
14:06 < MrARM> I know why it crashed after installing
14:16 < MrARM> lol. When I fix one issue the old one happens. 
14:18 < shoghicp> typical development issues
14:19 < MrARM> shoghicp you packed pthreads?
14:19 < MrARM> into last php?
14:19 < shoghicp> yes
14:19 < MrARM> [Server] 13:19:14 [ERROR] pthreads >= 0.1.0 is required, while you have 0.0.45-rc.
14:19 < MrARM> [Server] 13:19:14 [ERROR] Unable to find the YAML extension.
14:19 < MrARM> [Server] 13:19:14 [ERROR] Please use the installer provided on the homepage, or recompile PHP again.
14:20 < MrARM> Because that
14:20 < shoghicp> pthreads, yaml, curl, zlib
14:20 < MrARM> k
14:20 < MrARM> I'll update right now (;
14:20 < shoghicp> are you sure you are using the 5.5.8 file?
14:20 < shoghicp> oh
14:20 < MrARM> no, I didn't update
14:20 < shoghicp> xD xD
14:22 < MrARM> Arr
14:22 < MrARM> You don't know better extresions than .tar.gz?
14:23 < MrARM> so strange
14:23 < MrARM> A moment ago it saud
14:23 < MrARM> *said 
14:23 < MrARM> Cannot find application. 
14:23 < MrARM> Now it extracted
14:24 < MrARM> shoghicp what files I have to pack into DroidPocketMine? 
14:24 < MrARM> only php biniary as earlier?
14:24 < shoghicp> MrARM: I use tar.gz to be compatible with all *nix, I had issues with unzip not being installed
14:25 < shoghicp> yep
14:25 < shoghicp> bin/php5/bin/php
14:25 < MrARM> shoghicp not a problem anymore
14:25 < MrARM> as I thought
14:27 < shoghicp> MrARM: I need a few screenshots
14:27 < MrARM> shoghicp soon
14:27 < shoghicp> :)
14:27 < shoghicp> so, name DroidPocketMine?
14:27 < MrARM> I don't know why, but my os doesn't recognize php as executable file
14:27 < MrARM> (can mean problems)
14:28 < shoghicp> I saw that there is another app with that name, but not yours (using MrARM as the name)
14:28 < shoghicp> MrARM: :s
14:28 < shoghicp> let's see
14:28 < MrARM> It recognized php-confog and so on
14:28 < shoghicp> phpize?
14:28 < MrARM> yes
14:28 < shoghicp> hmm, weird
14:28 < MrARM> what is phpize anyway? 
14:28 < shoghicp> it is one of the steps used to compile extensions for PHP
14:28 < MrARM> I will check on my android device
14:29 < shoghicp> I use armv7-a
14:29 < MrARM> We will ser
14:29 < shoghicp> also, they don't have +x on the tar.gz
14:29 < shoghicp> you have to set it
14:29 < MrARM> What is +x?!
14:30 < MrARM> I auto chmod stuff on first launch
14:30 < shoghicp> MrARM: exec perms
14:30 < MrARM> Hmmm
14:30 < MrARM> It is this probably
14:31 < MrARM> But why only php doesn't have them
14:32 < shoghicp> no idea
14:33 < MrARM> Works on Android
14:33 < MrARM> shoghicp what's that hendeko
14:33 < shoghicp> strange
14:33 < shoghicp> "strange"
14:33 < shoghicp> Henteko Minecart
14:33 < shoghicp> codename ;)
14:34 < shoghicp> I made a poll about how to name PM versions
14:34 < MrARM> why in Chinese? 
14:34 < shoghicp> and the community choose Minecraft block/items + japanese names
14:34 < MrARM> ah k
14:35 < shoghicp> works :D perfect
14:35 < MrARM> Minecarts doesn't work
14:35 < MrARM> but I think it's indeed
14:35 < shoghicp> xD
14:35 < shoghicp> they don't work yet
14:36 < shoghicp> but they are planned in .12
14:36 < MrARM> Ok, writing ASCII color codes now
14:36 < shoghicp> so the codename ;)
14:36 < shoghicp> :D
14:37 < shoghicp> MrARM: if ansi color codes are enabled, PocketMine-MP updates the title using ANSI codes too
14:37 < shoghicp> \x1b]0;TITLE_HERE\x07
14:42 < MrARM> shoghicp K, There will be colors
14:42 < MrARM> And I hope I'll make it possible to select text from console
14:42 < shoghicp> you can get the TPS, ram usage, players and such from the title update ;)
14:47 < MrARM> shoghicp I may use it later
14:47 < MrARM> shoghicp Do you use bold, italic, underline too?
14:47 < shoghicp> I don't use them, but the codes are there
14:47 < shoghicp> just remove them ;)
14:50 < MrARM> No
14:50 < MrARM> I can implement them too
15:03 < MCMrARM> arr... looks like my split doesn't work
15:03 < shoghicp> hmm?
15:04 < MCMrARM> shoghicp I currently have \u001B\\[ as split (requires regex)
15:05 < shoghicp> I've a regex around there to get them
15:05 < shoghicp> afk 15 minutes
15:05 < MCMrARM> Any idea what's wrong? :/
15:05 < MCMrARM> k
15:25 < shoghicp> MCMrARM: check utils/TextFormat.php
15:26 < shoghicp> oh, I removed the ANSI detection
15:26 < MCMrARM> I fixed
15:26 < MCMrARM> nvm
15:26 < shoghicp> :D
15:26 < shoghicp> afk again, lunch
15:26 < MCMrARM> I was checking a empty string lol
15:50 < MCMrARM> cool, I see any colors now! :D
15:52 < MCMrARM> shoghicp should the time be blue?
15:53 < MCMrARM> more exactly: cyan
15:54 < MCMrARM> from Wikipedia an my app yes
15:57 < MCMrARM> shoghicp http://mediafire.com/view/2t5b2ldtvtt55bm/device-2014-02-01-155457.png
15:57 < MCMrARM> :D
15:58 < MCMrARM> That's all for today
16:03 < MCMrARM> shoghicp can you flush the stats
16:03 < MCMrARM> Every stat update, you have to flush them
16:04 < MCMrARM> Or my app will get them with delay
16:15 < MrARM> My IRC crashed
16:15 < MrARM> shoghicp Are you back? 
16:17 < shoghicp> MrARM: back
16:17 < MrARM> browse my messages back
16:17 < shoghicp> flush the stats?
16:17 < MrARM> shoghicp what is the console method?
16:17 < shoghicp> stats.pocketmine.net?
16:17 < MrARM> No
16:17 < MrARM> The debug info
16:18 < MrARM> With RAM and so on
16:18 < shoghicp> status
16:18 < MrARM> yes
16:19 < shoghicp> oh my, I just saw a typo
16:19 < MrARM> Because from unknown reason an it doesnt work
16:19 < MrARM> shoghicp what tupo?
16:19 < shoghicp> PocketMine-MP is distibuted...
16:20 < MrARM> lol
16:20 < shoghicp> MrARM: what does not work?
16:21 < MrARM> Formatting on stats
16:21 < MrARM> It shows a ]0;
16:22 < MrARM> I think you missed an m
16:22 < shoghicp> \x1b]0;
16:23 < shoghicp> I think it is right
16:23 < shoghicp> ESC]0;stringBEL -- Set icon name and window title to string
16:24 < shoghicp> ESC]1;stringBEL -- Set icon name to string
16:24 < shoghicp> ESC]2;stringBEL -- Set window title to string
16:24 < MrARM> Oh...
16:24 < MrARM> Oh...
16:24 < MrARM> shoghicp I only started parsing colors
16:24 < MrARM> Anyway can you add a \r\n ?
16:24 < MrARM> I need it
16:24 < MrARM> ...
16:25 < MrARM> I use readLine
16:25 < MrARM> nvm
16:25 < MrARM> I will stop using readLine
16:26 < MrARM> hmmm... what happened to eclipse...
16:27 < MrARM> Probably moved shortcut to trash by mistake
16:42 < shoghicp> MrARM: readline should detect "\n" only too
16:43 < MrARM> I know
16:51 < MrARM> shoghicp fixed the issue :D
16:51 < shoghicp> :D
16:52 < MrARM> Ill make it look different now maybe? 
16:52 < MrARM> or move it from console at all?
16:53 < shoghicp> add a gui for basic things, like kick, ban, whitelist, teleporting
16:53 < shoghicp> but leave the console part too ;)
16:54 < shoghicp> I'll be out for the next 12 hours or so
16:54 < shoghicp> ping me via PM here
16:54 < shoghicp> if you want something
16:54 < shoghicp> or mail shoghicp at pocketmine.net
17:02 < MrARM> heh
17:02  * MrARM broken something
17:11 < MrARM> shoghicp Is that in release builds too?
17:11 < shoghicp> MrARM: what?
17:11 < MrARM> I meant ram usage and so on
17:11 < MrARM> In titlebar
17:11 < shoghicp> yes
17:11 < MrARM> Cool
17:11 < shoghicp> all of them
17:12 < MrARM> By reading code I would say no
17:12 < MrARM> Check for debug (;
17:12 < MrARM> So I'll parse it (:
17:12 < shoghicp> hmm?
17:13 < MrARM> nvm *;
17:13 < MrARM> *(;
17:27 < dylangellis> well, if you guys need more ram: downloadmoreram.com
17:28 < MrARM> lol
17:28 < MrARM> Read the footer
18:25 < MrARM> shoghicp I made the title to be displayed on home page of DroidPocketMine
18:26 < MrARM> Not title,  but statistics
18:26 < MrARM> Next task: Player list
18:26 < MrARM> But that's for tommorow (:
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09:24 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 1 commit [+6/-3/±2] http://git.io/96n70g
09:24 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac b99d1e4 - Migrated Health, Experience, SetWindowSlot packets.
09:24 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 1 commit [+0/-0/±5] http://git.io/ckiyqQ
09:25 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac ca02c93 - Added shortcut register inbound and outbound methods.
09:25 <+SirCmpwn> glowstone? I thought that project was totally dead
09:26 <+SpaceManiac> Not anymore ;)
09:26 <+SirCmpwn> didn't it just become vanilla/spout
09:27 <+SpaceManiac> yeah, but they strayed away from the original goal of being a Bukkit implementation
09:27 <+SpaceManiac> I finally have time and there were people interested so things are going again
09:28 <+SirCmpwn> ah.
09:28 <+SirCmpwn> is the goal to be bukkit without the shady parts
09:28 <+SirCmpwn> err, craftbukkit without the shady parts
09:28 <+SpaceManiac> something along those lines
09:34 < SinZ> wasn't it meant to be bukkit without the vannila constraints
09:34 <+SirCmpwn> so, spigot?
09:36 <+SpaceManiac> Bukkit interface, fully open-source implementation
09:37 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 1 commit [+0/-0/±25] http://git.io/r7QdZg
09:37 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 1003f1f - Updated and tidied codecs for silly flow-net business.
09:51 < rom1504> how are the performances ?
14:55 < morfin> hello
14:56 < morfin> can't remember where is MCProxy located
16:14 < morfin> guys
16:14 < morfin> anybody can tell me where is minecraft proxy?
16:22 < dx> morfin: what "minecraft proxy"? there were a few of those, none of them updated to 1.7+ afaik
16:24 < Thinkofdeath> morfin: if you're just looking to log packets then http://wiki.vg/Debugging may be useful
16:26 < dx> yeah, the feature that murdered all proxies
16:27 < dx> (not really)
16:29 < l4mRh4X0r> If you're just looking to log packets, might as well just wrap the server :P
16:32 < morfin> none of them? :(
16:33 < morfin> i just try to understand sequence
16:42 < morfin> as i know there differences between hmm
16:42 < morfin> premium and non-premium servers
16:57 < Thinkofdeath> morfin: its explained here http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Login (and the differances)
17:12 < morfin> For unauthenticated and* localhost connections
17:13 < morfin> so all that non-premium servers are vulnerable to MitM
17:29 < Thinkofdeath> morfin: yep
17:29 < Thinkofdeath> morfin: But offline mode has more issues than that :)
17:43 < morfin> like?
17:54 < Thinkofdeath> morfin: The fact you can login as anyone
17:55 < Thinkofdeath> morfin: Also the encryption wouldn't work without online mode because the session server is part of that process
18:11 < morfin> i know
18:12 < morfin> i can become even Notch :D
18:12 < morfin> there is only one way but that's looks not legal
18:13 < morfin> i mean bukkit plugin
18:14 < dx> wat
18:15 < Thinkofdeath> morfin: <morfin> i can become even Notch :D   <-- that wont work in 1.8 :)
18:15 < Thinkofdeath> Well you'll have his name not his skin
18:24 < morfin> :O
18:24 < morfin> really?
18:25 < morfin> how will it understand i am not that player
18:27 < Thinkofdeath> morfin: The infomation on where to get the skin is obtained from the session server
18:27 < morfin> hmmmm
18:28 < morfin> but on offline servers that should work i guess
18:28 < morfin> since they're not using any session servers
18:28 < Thinkofdeath> then they don't get info and therefore don't get the skin
18:29 < dx> oh, so offline servers won't have any skins anymore? interesting
18:30 < Thinkofdeath> dx: well I think thats the plan, currently (from limited testing with TheUnnamedDude) skins still kinda work just the second layer goes missing
18:30 < morfin> lol
18:31 < morfin> no more skins for pirates
18:31 < Thinkofdeath> and capes go missing
18:31 < TheUnnamedDude> There will probably be some client adding some skin service thingie
18:32 < dx> Thinkofdeath: with setups like bungeecord + offline minecraft servers, bungeecord would have to be in charge of getting the skin info from the session server and sending that to clients?
18:32 < Thinkofdeath> dx: yep
18:32 < morfin> hmmm
18:33 < Thinkofdeath> Its part of the spawn player packet, either bungee will have to rewrite them or send the skin info the server somehow
18:35 < morfin> hmm
18:35 < morfin> interesting when 1.8 will out
18:38 < dividuum> i guess the skins will be available at a known url, as it is now, right?
18:38 < Thinkofdeath> dividuum: Yeah, it still uses the old url for mob heads
18:39 < dividuum> ok
18:41 < Thinkofdeath> Heres what the new infomation looks like https://gist.github.com/thinkofdeath/86a364af949b567c1354
18:42 < shoghicp> signature?
18:42 < Thinkofdeath> shoghicp: So it can't be faked
18:42 < shoghicp> uh xD
18:43 < shoghicp> I wonder if we are going to get skins on MCPE on 0.9
18:47 < KnownUnown> shoghicp: maybe
18:47 < shoghicp> and how they will be implemented ;)
18:48 < KnownUnown> Well, according to the MCForums update thingy page
18:48 < KnownUnown> Skins will maybe be implemented 
18:59 < dx> semi-offtopic: https://www.openshift.com/blogs/paas-free-minecraft-server-hosting
19:00 < dx> this is silly but i'm going to try it later
19:03 < dx> their service is clearly not designed to host stuff that isn't HTTP (they suggest ssh port forwarding) and 512mb isn't a lot of ram, but still going to try it
19:06 < morfin> lol
23:07 < TobiX> dx: And like almost every technical minecraft howto, there are a bunch of ****** in the comments trying to follow the instructions while having no clue what they are doing...
23:08 < dx> TobiX: it says "free minecraft server hosting" in the title and the contents are non-trivial, i'm not surprised at all
23:09 < TobiX> Like this: FREE Minecraft Server Hosting: Just download http://veryshadyserver.xxx/RunThisTotallyNotATrojanFreeMinecraftServerReally.exe ;)
23:11 < dx> why is veryshadyserver.xxx not registered?!?!
23:12 < dx> (why didn't i register a bunch of silly .xxx domains when they were $10?)
23:15 < TobiX> dx: 79,90 €/year :(
23:15 < dx> :(
23:18 < TobiX> And you need to do a special verification for .XXX domains...
23:19 <+SirCmpwn> I have sircmpwn.xxx, but I didn't buy it during a sale :(
23:19 < dx> >Host sircmpwn.xxx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
23:19 < dx> SirCmpwn: i want my sircmpwn porn, now!
23:21 <+SirCmpwn> k
23:29 <+SirCmpwn> dx: wait for DNS changes to set in
23:31 < dx> woo
23:31  * dx does "dig @dns1.registrar-servers.com sircmpwn.xxx" instead
23:32 <+SirCmpwn> it's sharing a server with something else
23:32 <+SirCmpwn> so you need to use sircmpwn.xxx for it to behave as intended
23:32 < dx> yeah, added to hosts file already
23:33 < dx> SirCmpwn: <3
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01:29 < WizardCM-> oooh, ping timeout, how exciting
01:36 < KnownUnown> nope
01:36 < KnownUnown> netsplits
01:37 < KnownUnown> what excite
02:43 < WizardCM> in resource packs, is ascii.png.mcmeta supposed to allow full font customization? if not, what can i do to remove spacing for some characters?
02:43 <+Amaranth> You still need a mod for TTF support otherwise it's all fixed space afaik
02:45 < WizardCM> :(
02:46 < WizardCM> how unfortunate
02:46 < WizardCM> wonder why the wiki mentions a ascii.png.mcmeta and its contents then..
04:01 < xerxes> hmm
04:04 < morfin> authentication is very complicated
04:06 < morfin> i can't understand how it works on server-side
04:21 < Drainedsoul> morfin: What don't you understand?
--- Log closed lun. févr. 03 11:02:05 2014
--- Log opened lun. févr. 03 11:02:14 2014
11:02 -!- Irssi: #mcdevs: Total of 91 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 7 voices, 83 normal]
11:05 -!- Irssi: Join to #mcdevs was synced in 224 secs
11:40 < MCMrARM> too many splits
16:10 < xerxes> hmmm
16:11 < xerxes> there is 2 proxies supporting 1.7.4(which is compatible with 1.7.2)
16:11 < TheUnnamedDude> Wat
16:11 < xerxes> but one of them does not support encryption
16:12 < xerxes> but another one is part of MCServer and it's not compiling on my machine(requires some specific asm instructions)
16:12 < xerxes> shit :(
16:12 <+sadimusi> isn't SMProxy up to date?
16:13 < xerxes> nope
16:14 < xerxes> SirCmpwn is here as i know it's his creation
16:14 < xerxes> i beleive he does not have time to update
16:14 < bilde2910> Since when did DDoSs start banning Lahwran
16:15 < xerxes> what?
16:15 < xerxes> what's DDoSs?
16:16 < xerxes> idk what's about Lawran
16:18 < xerxes> i am not sure how minecraft protocol works
16:18 < xerxes> in wiki i've found little pieces of data
16:19 < KnownUnown> idk
16:20 < KnownUnown> it's not the ddos
16:20 < KnownUnown> it's chanserv going bonkers
16:20 < KnownUnown> *services
16:39 < xerxes> hm?
16:39 < xerxes> i lost connection many times today
16:40 < dividuum_> some idiot is ddosing freenode
16:40 < xerxes> see
16:41 < xerxes> there was a moment
16:41 < xerxes> when only 2-3 peoples was on channels
16:41 < morfin> hmm
16:43 < TkTech> Womp womp.
17:09 < MCMrARM> Network problems! 
17:09 < morfin> hm?
17:10 < MCMrARM> No ChanServ!
17:10 < morfin> i am not sure how client is authenticating
17:10 < morfin> i want to test server-side
17:11 < MCMrARM> hmmm... Dump packets? 
17:12 < morfin> but there no proxy
17:13 < morfin> for 1.7.x
17:13 < MCMrARM> Write one yourself ?
17:13 < morfin> oh ;(
17:13 < MCMrARM> There is a node.js one i think
17:13 < MCMrARM> Not sure it support for auth
17:14 < morfin> yep
17:14 < morfin> it does not have encryption at all
17:14 < TkTech> morfin: You don't need one just for packet traffic any more, the client can be coerced into logging it.
17:14 < TkTech> So the major effort behind keeping the proxies up to date is gone.
17:15 < morfin> i was logging at server
17:16 < morfin> [08:54:07] [Netty IO #3/DEBUG]: OUT: [PLAY:21] net.minecraft.server.v1_7_R1.PacketPlayOutRelEntityMove[id=278, xa=0, ya=0, za=0]
17:16 < morfin> that's what i got)
17:17 < MCMrARM> Strange packet
17:18 < morfin> [22:17:44] [Netty IO #0/DEBUG]:  IN: [STATUS:0] net.minecraft.server.v1_7_R1.PacketStatusInStart[]
17:18 < morfin> i am not sure what's that
17:19 < morfin> i guess Handshake
17:20 < MCMrARM> You are using a custom client? 
17:20 < morfin> nope
17:20 < morfin> that's l4j logs
17:20 < morfin> on server-side
17:20 < MCMrARM> I would say it's a status request,  but...
17:21 < morfin> wanted to use proxy because that's strange
17:21 < morfin> logging
17:22 < morfin> and there shitloads of entities updates
17:22 < MCMrARM> heh
17:22 < MCMrARM> Anyway isn't stuff on wiki.vg clear enough? 
17:22 < MCMrARM> They didn't change encryption in 1.7
17:23 < MCMrARM> Only packets ids
17:24 < morfin> i know
17:25 < morfin> omg
17:25 < morfin> [22:22:30] [Netty IO #1/DEBUG]: OUT: [PLAY:25] net.minecraft.server.v1_7_R1.PacketPlayOutEntityHeadRotation[id=184, rot=71]
17:25 < MCMrARM> What? 
17:29 < morfin> that's my farm spamming
17:30 < morfin> over 9000 messages per second
17:31 < morfin> i don't know how i log in
17:54 < morfin> should i send 0x1 first?
17:54 < morfin> but idk what entity id is
17:56 < morfin> i guess that's outdated: http://wiki.vg/How_to_Write_a_Client
18:00 < MrARM2> Ok, Freenode experiences therrible issues now
18:01 < MrARM2> dickson is plugged in!
18:02 < morfin> what
18:02 < MrARM2> Freenode server name
18:02 < morfin> ow
18:02 < MrARM2> There's a ddos attack on them
18:02 < morfin> i knowe
18:02 < morfin> has issues all day
18:03 < morfin> and even saw empty channels :D
18:03 < MrARM2> I am currently on dickson and bradbury
18:03 < MrARM2> morfin I saw a day like it some time ago
18:04 < MrARM2> Everything was chaotic
18:04 < MrARM2> started with missing ChanServ
18:04 < morfin> )
18:04 < morfin> yes
18:04 < MrARM2> Turned into something much worser
18:04 < morfin> why they're doing that
18:04 < morfin> stupid faggots
18:05 < MrARM2> I am also thinking that
18:05 < MrARM2> Freenode is just a spam now
18:06 < morfin> actually IRC could be better
18:06 < morfin> with clusters :)
18:10 < morfin> is not that wiki outdated?
18:10 < MrARM2> Mostly no
18:11 < morfin> i mean Protocol page
18:11 < morfin> idk why my MCP says 0x00 is login start
18:11 < morfin> but wiki says it's keep alive
18:13 < morfin> p_148840_1_.writeStringToBuffer(this.field_149305_a.getName());\
18:14 < morfin> i guess that should write string length and then string itself
18:14 < MrARM> Dunno
18:14 < morfin> too bad i can't rely on wiki 
18:15 < morfin> at least i know it uses UTF-8
18:15 <+sadimusi> the wiki is definitely not outdated
18:16 < morfin> strange then
18:16 <+sadimusi> you noticed that multiple packets can have the same id, right?
18:16 < morfin> yep
18:16 < morfin> i guess that's hmm
18:16 < morfin> a bit strange
18:17 < morfin> as example there is 0x00(Login start) and 0x00 Keep Alive
18:20 < morfin> hmmm
18:44 < morfin> oh noes 
19:36 < morfin> hmmm
19:36 < MrARM> mmmh
19:37 < morfin> i guess that's incorrect: 003469486178
19:38 < MrARM> What is that? 
19:38 < morfin> login packet )
19:38 < morfin> i writed to buffer \x00, length(converted) and then string 4 symbols
20:36 < morfin> is there auth protocol documentation anywhere?
20:36 <+sadimusi> http://wiki.vg/Authentication
20:37 < morfin> i meant in-game auth
20:37 < morfin> not login authentication 
20:37 <+sadimusi> http://wiki.vg/Protocol_Encryption#Authentication ?
20:37 < morfin> this is so complicated as hell
20:38 < morfin> i was trying to login without encryption(i don't have it because offline-mode)
20:39 <+sadimusi> why do you need docs on authentication when you have it disabled?
20:39 < morfin> there was article how to write client and it's outdated=(
20:40 <+sadimusi> well, the auth process is pretty simple http://wiki.vg/Protocol_Encryption#Overview
20:40 < morfin> that's a problem
20:41 <+sadimusi> what is a problem?
20:41 < morfin> looked at sources in MCP and now can't understand anything
20:41 <+sadimusi> you shouldn't need to look at mcp
20:41 < morfin> why
20:41 <+sadimusi> because everything is in the wiki
20:42 < dx> is it safe now?
20:42 <+SirCmpwn> regarding the surprise at SMProxy being behind
20:42 <+SirCmpwn> all of Craft.Net is behind :x
20:42 <+SirCmpwn> I haven't had time to finish all the huge changes required to support 1.7
20:42 < dx> okay i take that as a "yes and you've missed a few hours of logs"
20:43 <+sadimusi> morfin: the "hoe to write a client" article is still pretty accurate, just the packet IDs changed a bit
20:43 <+SirCmpwn> dx: freenode is still having a hard time
20:43 < morfin> a bit :)
20:43 < dx> oh well
20:46 < MrARM-Away> shoghicp hi
20:46 < shoghicp> hi
20:46 < MrARM-Away> I werent able to do anything with PocketMine today
20:46 < MrARM-Away> Shoghicp Is the current version fine for publishing or I need to write something more?
20:47 < shoghicp> I just got the IRC bouncer working again xD
20:47 < MrARM-Away> Maybe op and deop buttons?,
20:47 < shoghicp> they can just run raw commands
20:47 < MrARM-Away> shoghicp Attack on IRC and it happens
20:47 < MrARM-Away> shoghicp No wait. I'll make the setup wizard a gui.
20:47 < shoghicp> :D
20:48 < MrARM-Away> it only uses server.properties as a check, right?
20:48 < shoghicp> hmm, and a few methods to add things
20:48 < MrARM-Away> Sending it to console is too hard xD
20:49 < MrARM-Away> shoghicp My method will be just a accept/decline the license + it will open server.properties editor
20:49 < morfin> so many magic with protocol
20:49 < shoghicp> feel free to use the language files
20:49 < shoghicp> morfin: MCPE has more magic!
20:50 < shoghicp> it has a constant named magic ;)
20:50 < morfin> i am tryingto wireshark
20:51 < KnownUnown> yes
20:51 < KnownUnown> Raknet has in particular
20:51 < KnownUnown> RAKNET_MAGIC
20:51 < KnownUnown> constant
20:53 < MrARM-Away> bye now
20:56 < morfin> hmm
20:56 < morfin> handshake is 17 now?
21:17 < morfin> lol
21:20 < dx> what's so funny
21:21 < morfin> server said 27022032343636313935336633653833383238393830376561343165383637376130360469486178
21:21 < morfin> there is iHax at the end
21:36 < morfin> and i did not expect that: TSource.Engine.Query.
23:25 < nickelpro> So I just came back on for the first time in a few weeks
23:25 < nickelpro> And my bouncer buffer is filled with nonsense
23:25 < nickelpro> What happened in this channel?
23:26 < dx> freenode broke
23:26 < nickelpro> ah
23:26 < dx> the whole network was unusable for maybe 12 hours
23:26 < dx> maybe more, maybe less
23:26 < nickelpro> That would explain why chanserv was yelling at me
23:26 < nickelpro> netsplits, DDOS?
23:27 < shoghicp> dx: 20 hours for me xD
23:27 < shoghicp> nickelpro: DDoS
23:27 < nickelpro> shoghicp:  Who DDoS's freenode -.-
23:28 < shoghicp> *I think* it was caused by an specimen in a weird channel
23:28 < shoghicp> trying to takeover it
23:28 < shoghicp> one where I was banned 2 seconds after joining
23:29 < shoghicp> and somehow, got unbanned just in time to be confused with him xD
23:29 < shoghicp> and after him being banned, the DDoS started
23:29 < nickelpro> huh
23:29 < shoghicp> just 5 seconds after that xD
23:29 < nickelpro> Well, on topic, anything interesting in 1.8 protocol-wise?
23:29 < shoghicp> mini DoS, channel talk, ban, huge DDoS
23:29 < shoghicp> hmm
23:30 < shoghicp> I haven't checked the PC protocol for a while
23:30 < shoghicp> hmm... skins only work in online mode?
23:30 < nickelpro> Looks like the turned a whole bunch of values into varints
23:30 < shoghicp> yep, I heard that xD
23:31 < nickelpro> Oh man
23:31 < nickelpro> new data type
23:31 < nickelpro> fun
23:31 <+SpaceManiac> what's the new thing?
23:32 < nickelpro> SpaceManiac: An encoding for "Position" http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Position
23:38 < nickelpro> X and Z get 26 bits, Y gets the last 12, are X and Z signed? that could be annoying
23:39 < dav1d> well everyone 12 bit
23:40 < dav1d> x and z an extra sign?
23:41 < nickelpro> They must be signed, they encode position
23:42 < nickelpro> Such a weird format, to save a handful of bits
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04:05 < morfin> hmmm
04:06 < nickelpro> morfin: ?
04:06 < morfin> i sent 2 packets
04:07 < morfin> and was spammed by server)
04:07 < nickelpro> morfin: what did you send exactly?
04:07 < morfin> \x17\x00\x04\x11\x6e\x6f\x6e\x61\x6d\x65\x2e\x62\x6f\x74\x61\x6e\x73\x2e\x6f\x72\x67\x88\xdb\x02
04:08 < morfin> then \x06\x00\x04\x69\x48\x61\x78
04:09 < nickelpro> It didn't spam you
04:09 < nickelpro> morfin: It would send you an encryption request
04:09 < morfin> there a farm around spawn)
04:09 < morfin> actually it's not
04:09 < morfin> since offline
04:09 < nickelpro> ah
04:10 < nickelpro> morfin: so login success followed by multi-chunks, still not spam
04:10 < morfin> i was wiresharking 
04:10 < morfin> i guess i should handle everything :(
04:11 < nickelpro> morfin: You don't have to, just skip packets you haven't implemented
04:11 < morfin> Paraphrase (with no authentication and no encryption): send a 0x02, get a 0xFD, send a 0xCD, get a 0x01, get a 0x06. Then you'll eventually get a 0x0D, and that's when the game really begins.
04:12 < nickelpro> morfin: where is that from? It's old
04:12 < morfin> but i really sent 2 packets(there was no payload in responses from server)
04:13 < nickelpro> morfin: You said the server was "spamming" you, now you're saying you got no responses?
04:13 < morfin> no
04:14 < morfin> after first packet 2 or 1 packet was returned without any payload
04:14 < morfin> then when i send second packet i get some hash and after that lots of chunks data etc
04:16 < morfin> what that hash for?
04:19 < nickelpro> morfin: what hash?
04:20 < morfin> ' 24661953f3e838289807ea41e8677a06iHax
04:21 < nickelpro> Yes but from what packet? How do you know that data is a has?
04:21 < nickelpro> hash*?
04:22 < morfin> look at that: 24661953f3e838289807ea41e8677a06 size is 32 so i assumed that's md5
04:23 < nickelpro> Any random 8 bytes from the stream could be displayed that way
04:23 < nickelpro> it could be the player UUID
04:24 < morfin> probably
04:24 < morfin> because hmm it's 0x01
04:24 < nickelpro> morfin: Clientbound 0x01 in the login state is an Encryption Request
04:25 < morfin> it's serverbound
04:25 < nickelpro> morfin: so how do you not know what you're sending?
04:25 < morfin> i was connecting to server with my script 
04:26 < morfin> so i did not send that
04:26 < nickelpro> morfin: You just said it's serverbound
04:26 < nickelpro> client -> server
04:26 < nickelpro> this is your client right?
04:27 < morfin> i readed that when sent that \x06\x00\x04\x69\x48\x61\x78
04:27 < nickelpro> morfin: Walk me through what your client does exactly, and then what you read
04:28 < nickelpro> (or just post code)
04:45 < cathode> hey guys... question: how consistent/transactional is the server when it comes to writing to region files? ... If i were to use filesystem-level snapshots (zfs in this case), would there be a chance of a snapshot recording an inconsistent world data file state?
04:58 < morfin> actually that does not look like serverbound handshake
04:58 < morfin> it does not have int x,y,z and metadata
05:01 < morfin> i connect to server then send \x17\x00\x04\x11\x6e\x6f\x6e\x61\x6d\x65\x2e\x62\x6f\x74\x61\x6e\x73\x2e\x6f\x72\x67\x88\xdb\x02 it's login request: that's what client is sending to server(\x02 is login request i guess)
05:03 < morfin> after that i send \x06\x00\x04\x69\x48\x61\x78 (string length and nick)
05:05 < morfin> server responses with that: 27022032343636313935336633653833383238393830376561343165383637376130360469486178
05:06 < nickelpro> morfin: What's that in hex?
05:06 < morfin> yep
05:07 < morfin> it looks like that: ' 24661953f3e838289807ea41e8677a06iHax
05:07 < nickelpro> morfin: That's a login success, UUID and Username
05:07 < nickelpro> probably
05:08 < morfin> but i thought there should be X Y Z and metadata 
05:08 < morfin> hmmm
05:08 < nickelpro> morfin: Why would you think that?
05:08 < nickelpro> http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Login_Success
05:15 < WizardCM> what would be the unicode newline character than i can use in the language file to make a piece of text split correctly?
05:18 < KnownUnown> Err can you just use backslash n? 
05:18 < KnownUnown> \n
05:19 <+SpaceManiac> is U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE what you want?
05:22 < WizardCM> KnownUnown: doesn't work in the language pack, in the same way you have to use a section sign to get the colour code working
05:24 < WizardCM> how would you type that in windows SpaceManiac? more specifically, notepad++
05:28 <+SpaceManiac> I have no idea
05:40 < morfin> hmmm
05:40 < morfin> who said & color codes will be deprecated?
05:41 < nickelpro> morfin: They already have been
05:41 < morfin> i am not sure how will colored signs work without that
05:41 < morfin> chat is using JSON so there no problems with colors
05:41 < nickelpro> Yes and color codes are on their way out in favor of json-flavor color data
05:42 < morfin> but signs can't do that
05:42 < nickelpro> sure they can
05:42 < nickelpro> just need to change the protocol
05:42 < morfin> lol
05:43 < morfin> changing protocol -> incompatibility
05:43 < nickelpro> that's never beem a problem for mojang before
05:44 < nickelpro> They've disliked codes for awhile now, they'll probably changes signs soon
05:44 < nickelpro> Codes already don't work in chat
05:44 < morfin> with hacks they do
05:45 < morfin> anyway
05:46 < morfin> i was thinking they'll add system like MMO has(show item to chat)
05:46 < morfin> i beleive that's possible with new JSON format(it have hover event to show_item) 
07:52 <+SpaceManiac> is there a client-side limit on the distance particles are shown at?
08:14 <+SirCmpwn> I know there's a limit for entities like item drops and mobs
08:43 < morfin> hmm
08:44 < morfin> is there actual login information?
08:44 < morfin> wiki is outdated
08:44 <+SirCmpwn> what kind of login
08:44 <+SirCmpwn> logging into the launcher, or into a server?
08:47 < morfin> into server
08:47 <+SirCmpwn> which version? 1.7.x?
08:47 < morfin> yep
08:48 <+SirCmpwn> https://github.com/SirCmpwn/Craft.Net/tree/1.7.x/source/Craft.Net.Client
08:48 <+SirCmpwn> most of Craft.Net isn't working on 1.7.x
08:48 <+SirCmpwn> but the client is, reference it
08:48 < morfin> i am wondering why first packet is \x17
08:49 < morfin> checked on my server with tcpdump and client
08:49 <+SirCmpwn> you're probably reading it wrong
08:49 <+SirCmpwn> it's a varint, remember?
08:49 < morfin> first packet i send i mena
08:49 < morfin> *mean
08:50 <+SirCmpwn> the packet ID isn't a straight unsigned octet any more
08:50 <+SirCmpwn> are you absolutely certain that you're reading it properly
08:50 < morfin> hmm
08:51 < morfin> varint is padded as i know
08:51 < morfin> but what about bid endian?
08:51 <+SirCmpwn> the endianness of a varint is defined in the varint spec
08:51 <+SirCmpwn> least significant 7-bit group first
08:54 < morfin> oh
09:28 < morfin> but what can become 17?
09:28 < Flemmard`> 16+1, 15+2, 18-1 .. (sorry)
09:29 < morfin> lol
09:32 < nickelpro> morfin: The wiki is up to date on the login process
09:33 < nickelpro> Handshake -> Login Start -> (optional) Encryption Request -> (optional) Encryption Response -> Login Sucess
09:34 < nickelpro> http://wiki.vg/Protocol_Encryption
09:35 < nickelpro> The protocol FAQ and the "How to write a client" article are outdated, but you shouldn't be relying on them anyway. I will say we should have put a notice up on those pages
09:35 < nickelpro> Actually, nvm, there is already a notice on the Protocol FAQ
09:39 < Thinkofdeath> SpaceManiac: The limit is 16 blocks for most particles, explosions have a 64 block limit
09:49 < morfin> i guess i got lots of problems because of that conversions
13:03 < morfin> i am still trying to understand what architecture will i have
13:08 < morfin> i was going to use async network IO but not sure about threading
13:09 <+sadimusi> are you writing a server?
13:09 < morfin> yep
13:09 <+sadimusi> then that isn't really a question
13:09 <+sadimusi> go with async
13:10 < morfin> there is problem with multicore\multiprocessor(+multicore) 
13:11 <+sadimusi> what language are you using?
13:11 < morfin> C++ )
13:11 < morfin> as i know some stuff like Intel TBB can help with that
13:14 < morfin> that's what i want to try: Async IO with dispatching event handlers into thread pool(configurable)
14:30 < shoghicp> MCMrARM: ping
14:36 < MCMrARM> pong
14:36 < MCMrARM> shoghicp: PONG:
14:36 < shoghicp> got a binary compiled with uclibc
14:37 < MCMrARM> Of wha
14:37 < MCMrARM> t?
14:37 < shoghicp> MCMrARM: http://198.52.198.142:8080/job/PocketMine-PHP/90/artifact/archive/crosscompile/android-armv7/php5/bin/php
14:37 < shoghicp> php ;)
14:37 < MCMrARM> shoghicp lol, ask jbernhardsson for 0.9.0
14:37 < MCMrARM> shoghicp is it any better?
14:38 < shoghicp> it might fix issues with DNS
14:38 < MCMrARM> k... Will check when I go home. 
14:38 < shoghicp> ok
14:38 < shoghicp> MCMrARM: johan is here too ;)
14:39 < shoghicp> he is working on it
14:39 < shoghicp> from #mcpedevs:
14:39 < MCMrARM> I asked him yesterday but no response
14:39 < shoghicp> "doing some big changes to the packets for 0.9.0 but I think you will like them. :)"
14:39 < MCMrARM> He is working on sending it to me? 
14:39 < shoghicp> and world generation being server-side
14:39 < shoghicp> xD xD xD
14:39 < shoghicp> no, me xD
14:40 < shoghicp> And I'll have to implement true world generation
14:40 < MCMrARM> shoghicp will you give it to me?
14:40 < MCMrARM> PLZ
14:40 < shoghicp> xD
14:40 < shoghicp> nope
14:40 < MCMrARM> :'(
14:40 < shoghicp> I won't distribute them xD
14:40 < shoghicp> join the beta program ;)
14:40 < shoghicp> it is not up yet
14:41 < MCMrARM> It's not gonna be soon...
14:41 < MCMrARM> shoghicp you gonna get it earlier? 
14:41 < MCMrARM> shoghicp ask jbernhardsson can you give it to me too
14:41 < shoghicp> I don't know ;)
14:41 < shoghicp> ¬¬
14:41 < MCMrARM> He wont ignore you
14:43 < MCMrARM> I was in 0.8.0 beta test
14:45 < MCMrARM> afk
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--- Log opened mar. févr. 04 18:46:27 2014
18:46 -!- Irssi: #mcdevs: Total of 129 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 7 voices, 121 normal]
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--- Day changed mer. févr. 05 2014
02:09 < WizardCM> anyone know where i can find a psd or something of the font file that actually has the literal characters that i can copy from it rather than images? i'm looking for this character http://wizrd.tk/iw5kdy - whoever made the font file in minecraft screwed up apparently, because lowercase gamma is actually the third one from the left code-wise, but not in actual greek
02:10 < TkTech> WizardCM: One second
02:25 < WizardCM> TkTech: not as easy as it seems, eh?
02:27 <+clonejo> It seems Mojang to extra effort to not make block simulation (eg. redstone) parallelize well.
02:27 <+clonejo> infinite signal propagation within one tick m(
02:29 <+clonejo> not to mention all the special cases there are to redstone
02:30 <+clonejo> but the infinite signal propagation kills off any effort to exactly redo the vanilla simulation in a parallel manner
02:34 <+clonejo> if you want an example: http://imgur.com/a/b9c66
02:54 < dav1d> wohoooooooooooo
02:54 < dav1d> clonejo works on his server again!?
02:54 <+clonejo> :p
02:54 <+clonejo> merely doing some thinking
02:55 < dav1d> at 3 in the morning :o
02:55 < dav1d> btw did pdelvo die?^^
02:55 < dav1d> damn
02:55 < dav1d> I am heading off to bed
02:56 < dav1d> cya & gn8
02:56 <+clonejo> cu
02:57  * clonejo shall pull pdelvo to the local hackerspace
03:00 < TkTech> WizardCM: I'm sorry, still in the office, got distracted
03:00 < WizardCM> TkTech: haha i know that feeling
03:05 < TkTech> WizardCM: Right, so the png's with the pre-rendered fonts are just in the .jar file
03:05 < WizardCM> i know TkTech that IS the pre-rendered font png
03:05 < TkTech> assets.minecraft/textures/font/*.png
03:05 < WizardCM> i'm looking for the literal character
03:05 < TkTech> Let me finish silly.
03:05 < WizardCM> like this - ΦΘΩ
03:05 < TkTech> assets.minecraft/font/glyph_sizes.bin has the mapping
03:05 < WizardCM> alrighty then :P
03:05 < WizardCM> ohh
03:05 < WizardCM> i never even thought of that
03:07 < WizardCM> now how to read it..
03:11 < TkTech> It's used in bjd.class which JD-GUI can't decompile
03:12 < WizardCM> this has the character set but is missing the one i'm trying to use http://wiki.vg/Chat
03:12 < TkTech> Neither can javap ;| It has no bytecode but it's the only file whose constant pool references it...
03:14 < TkTech> That's not the same thing
03:15 < WizardCM> yeah i figured
03:15 < WizardCM> :(
03:31 < TkTech> I don't think it's even used any more ;\
03:31 < TkTech> No that's a lie
03:31 < TkTech> It is
03:34 < TkTech> WizardCM: Looks pretty simple
03:34 < TkTech> WizardCM: Familiar with Python?
03:38 < WizardCM> TkTech: can't say that i am
03:38 < WizardCM> i decided to just use the next character over, as that's correctly mapped
03:39 < WizardCM> but now i'm trying to use sed to do a bulk character replace, but it's not doing what i want
03:39 < TkTech> WizardCM: https://gist.github.com/TkTech/8816587
03:40 < TkTech> It's always 65536 bytes long, index is the unicode character code, upper and lower nibble are start and end respectively
03:43 < Drainedsoul> I thought minecraft used Unicode
03:43 < TkTech> It does
03:44 < Drainedsoul> what's this talk on that page of an 8-bit character set then
03:44 < WizardCM> if you explicitly enable it, yes - but you can't edit unicode textures using a resource pack
03:45 < TkTech> Drainedsoul: Because for some characters it (used to? still does?) renders the old base font in a different way
03:45 < TkTech> FOr the unicode fonts it looks like assets/minecraft/textures/font is full of unicode_page_<N>.png files
03:46 < WizardCM> correct
03:46 < WizardCM> and resource packs can't replace unicode_page_<N>.png with their own resources
03:46 < WizardCM> i tried
03:46 < TkTech> WizardCM: Give me the unicode value of a character that should be valid please
03:46 < Drainedsoul> 00A0?
03:46 < Drainedsoul> I think that's NBSP
03:46 < TkTech> Valid in the minecraft pre-rendered unicode characters
03:47 < TkTech> Ideally something I can actually see :)
03:47 < Drainedsoul> U+00E9
03:47 < Drainedsoul> LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE
03:47 <+clonejo> à á
05:08 < Not-001> [fNbt] fragmer pushed 1 commit to master [+6/-0/±3] http://git.io/_deSQg
05:08 < Not-001> [fNbt] fragmer 1e1e55f - Added [MissingPolicy] and [NbtConstructor] attributes, to support the de-serializer.
05:36 < Not-001> [fNbt] fragmer pushed 2 commits to master [+6/-0/±7] http://git.io/buamhA
05:36 < Not-001> [fNbt] fragmer 95047b6 - NbtCompiler: Began adding code to handle efficient serialization of IDictionary<string,?> types
05:36 < Not-001> [fNbt] fragmer a432809 - Merge branch 'master' of github.com:fragmer/fNbt
05:58 < CanVox> Hello, does anyone know what hashing algorithm is used to obtain the resource hashes used by the new resource system?
06:27 < TkTech> CanVox: I don't believe there is one? There's an index.
06:27 < CanVox> Right, the index tells me the hash
06:27 < CanVox> But I'd like to know the algorithm so I can verify against it
06:27 < CanVox> To make sure the file is correct
06:28 < TkTech> Ah. That might be something worth pinging Gru_m or Dinnerbro over.
06:29 < TkTech> Assuming you tried the obvious?
06:31 < CanVox> Well if MD5 is the obvious then yeah.  I haven't tried SHA1 yet tho
06:31 < CanVox> So I should get around to doing that before pinging anyone probably
06:34 < TkTech> CanVox: It's the SHA1 of the file contents
06:34 < CanVox> oh rad man thank you
06:35 < TkTech> CanVox: Maybe drop a note on the wiki? http://wiki.vg/Game_Files
06:42 < TkTech> CanVox: Awesome, thanks for contributing :)
06:42 < CanVox> Thanks for clearing that up!
06:43 < TkTech> WizardCM: Almost done, I keep getting distracted.
06:44 < TkTech> WizardCM: Have a small python script (which is readable if you're using a different langauge) that given a unicode character can spit out the correct character from the pre-rendered files
07:51 < TkTech> WizardCM: https://gist.github.com/TkTech/dff9bbe54c9a074612e1
07:51 < TkTech> WizardCM: Quick'n'dirty
07:53 < dx> TkTech: what's "#:"? is that something for a documentation generator?
07:53 < TkTech> dx: For sphinx, it's how you document properties (of classes or modules)
07:53 < dx> i see
07:54 < dx> so even your "quick'n'dirty" scripts are ready to be used with sphinx? :D
07:54 < TkTech> Nah, pure habit, the rest should be documented
07:55 < TkTech> The sample that uses Pillow to spit out an image should be moved into the class as a helper
07:55 < TkTech> And another method should be added that uses Pillow to just give you a raw bitmap
07:55 < dx> heh
07:56 < dx> typical python programmer
07:56 < TkTech> ... but anyways, some of that should probably end up under /Chat I guess as psuedo code?
07:56 < dx> the code looks extremely clean, but still doesn't look clean enough
07:56 < TkTech> I couldn't find it documented *anywhere*
07:57 < dx> hm, yeah, documenting this would be nice
07:58 < TkTech> Reading the array and box_for_unicode are language agnostic, the actual image stuff is hugely language and framework dependent
08:00 < dx> TkTech: the "actual image stuff" is just the contents of the 'with' block, right?
08:01 < TkTech> Righto
08:01 < dx> that seems like the simplest part of the code...
08:02 < TkTech> Pillow is fantastic :)
08:02 < dx> i mean, still library dependent, but trivial to understand
08:03 < TkTech> Ah...well, I'm going to leave it to whoever decides to document it :P
08:03 < TkTech> Sleep time
08:04 < dx> pillow time?
08:05 < TkTech> Damn, I missed a perfect opportunity.
11:56 < shoghicp> MrARM: is the binary working?
12:41 < MrARM> shoghicp not tested yet
12:41 < MrARM> in an hour
15:17 < MCMrARM> shoghicp what's the point of "Server IP"
15:17 < shoghicp> leave that empty
15:17 < shoghicp> it is only used when a machine has multiple IPs to bind on a specific one
15:17 < MCMrARM> But what it is for? 
15:17 < shoghicp> ^
15:17 < MCMrARM> hmmm
15:18 < shoghicp> leave it empty or 0.0.0.0
15:18 < MCMrARM> Ok
15:18 < MCMrARM> I'll put it anyway
15:18 < shoghicp> don't add it to the config screen D:
15:18 < shoghicp> they will input random and incorrect things there
15:18 < MCMrARM> Why?
15:18 < shoghicp> when the best way to do it is leave it blank
15:19 < MCMrARM> I'll add a (leave blank if you have a single ip)
15:19 < MCMrARM> Or wair
15:19 < MCMrARM> *wait
15:20 < MCMrARM> I'll add a "Show advanced settings"
15:20 < MCMrARM> shoghicp ok?
15:20 < shoghicp> ok
15:20 < shoghicp> put RCon there too ;)
15:20 < MCMrARM> Ol
15:20 < MCMrARM> *Ok
15:20 < shoghicp> warn them, because I'm sure that people will complain about it
15:21 < shoghicp> they don't like to have something blank
15:21 < shoghicp> and 0.0.0.0 seems weird to them
15:22 < shoghicp> I saw people put there 127.0.0.1, 192.168.*.* (this one is ok), their global IP (won't work with a router), "I don't know", a domain name, etc
15:23 < shoghicp> but most of them started complaining on twitter and spamming the Github Issues page
15:27 < MCMrARM> ok
19:00 < TkTech> WizardCM: Poke
19:13 < MCMrARM> tor-sasl!
19:24 < morfin> lol
19:24 < morfin> what's point of settings screen?
19:25 < morfin> that's for blonds
19:26 < morfin> empty == 0.0.0.0, if you fill something invalid -> show fatal error -> exit
20:36 < morfin> anybody can tell me
20:37 < morfin> does original server really drop events if it's overloaded?
22:41 <+Amaranth> morfin: Well it skips ticks which would drop things in the block tick scheduler, sure
22:42 <+Amaranth> But it doesn't really skip ticks aside from skipping some numbers in the "number of ticks running" field since most things just do cooldownTicks-- in their tick method instead of being based on that field
22:44 <+Amaranth> Scheduled ticks in the mojang server are mainly (only?) used for fire and redstone, to give you an idea of what skipping things in the block tick scheduler would mess with
23:01 < RainyMesa> Still learning about how MC does level things, esp in regards to entities. Been using pymclevel. I'm trying to add a sign, do I need to add a sign block (does that even exist) in the same spot as my TileEntity?
23:16 < RainyMesa> Oh, ahha. Minecraft starts counting at 1. Sign NBT structure: Text1, Text2, Text3
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03:56 < cathode> hey guys
03:57 < cathode> having some issues with a corrupted world... anyone around having dealt with this stuff before?
03:57 < cathode> i'm running a server, not developing a mod if that matters
03:57 < KnownUnown> A lot with Bukkit 
03:57 < KnownUnown> There's this world fixer.... 
03:57 < cathode> ok i'm using Forge (Feed the beast monster pack)
03:58 < KnownUnown> :/
03:58 < KnownUnown> cathode: try https://github.com/Fenixin/Minecraft-Region-Fixer
03:58 < KnownUnown> Run that on your world
03:58 < KnownUnown> See if it helps
03:58 < KnownUnown> Read the documentation for the args for the script 
03:59 < cathode> uh ok