22:45 < Not-001> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn 06e70ee - Add link to TkTech script
22:46 < Thinkofdeath> TkTech: https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/indexes/1.7.4.json might be better to parse as the list on http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftResources isn't used in newer versions
22:47 < dx> TkTech: ElementTree's handling of xml namespaces makes me sad
22:50 <+sadimusi> dx: any reason I should use ElementTree over bs4?
22:50 < TkTech> sadimusi: Neither, use lxml
22:50 < dx> ^
22:50 < TkTech> I'm using it only for portability in a small example
22:51 < TkTech> (*using ElementTree)
22:51 < TkTech> Thinkofdeath: TIL
22:51 < dx> sadimusi: ElementTree was a nice improvement over the existing APIs, but IMO it was too young to include in the standard library when they did it
22:51 < TkTech> Thinkofdeath: Don't think I'll bother with a snippet for that, it's already JSON. Super simple.
22:52 < Thinkofdeath> Ok :)
22:53 < Thinkofdeath> Side note: http://resources.download.minecraft.net/fc/fce0bb3e14ade7b292a7c1d5fa785533d8106d82 is the sounds.json for 1.7.4 which would be even better to parse
22:54 < dx> sadimusi: bs4 is just wrapping lxml anyway, and lxml is nice (most of lxml's api is based on ElementTree, but better)
22:54 < TkTech> We call lxml almost 200 million times a day here at work
22:54 < TkTech> We use lxml.html *Extensively*
22:55 < TkTech> Excellent library. Used to be annoying to install on OS X, but that's been cleaned up.
22:55 < dx> lxml.html is the best html parser i've ever used. it's ready for scraping anything, out of the box
22:55 <+sadimusi> well most of the time I'm parsing html which I assume bs4 is better suited for. In case I ever come across pure xml (*shrug*) I'll  take a look at lxml :)
22:55 <+sadimusi> oh there's lxml.html?
22:56 <+sadimusi> then I'll take a look at that too the next time someone doesn't have an API
22:56 < dx> yeah, bs4 isn't actually doing parsing magic anymore as bs3 did
22:56 < dx> lxml.html and html5lib take care of that
22:57 < dx> (i heard positive things about html5lib but never used it myself)
22:57 <+sadimusi> wow, I actually used sax to parse the sounds in burger o.O https://github.com/mcdevs/Burger/blob/master/burger/toppings/sounds.py
22:59 < TkTech> dx: We've never needed it
22:59 < dx> TkTech: well yeah, it does the same thing as lxml
23:01 < TkTech> sadimusi: Ouch
23:01 <+sadimusi> that's what learning java does to you
23:02 < TkTech> Lines 26 to 84 can be replaced with 6 xD
23:02 < TkTech> Fewer, if you use lxml's shortcut to load from a URL
23:02 < dx> minidom is terrible, sax is terrible, ElementTree isn't perfect but can be decent, and... expat has a sort-of-low-level api, which can be annoying but it's impressive how fast it is
23:03 < TkTech> ElementTree is decent for small things and at least has functional namespace support
23:04 < dx> lxml should also be very fast but i'm not sure how to compare it to expat
23:05 < iBotPeaches> lxml <3
23:55 < Luqman> tinyxml has been my go to
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08:24 < TkTech> Luqman: Seems decent, but we were comparing python libraries
08:25 < TkTech> Luqman: probably more apt to compare tinyxml and libxml2/libxlst
17:41 < dylangellis> Anyone know how to change the color of the redstone with the WorldParticles packet using Redstone as the particle? If I set the speed to 0,it will be read… anything other than that it will just be random colors. (I have a feeling that it can only do this… but it's worth a shot to hear otherwise ;P). 
20:47 < dylangellis> Anyone know how to change the color of the redstone with the WorldParticles packet using Redstone as the particle? If I set the speed to 0,it will be read… anything other than that it will just be random colors. (I have a feeling that it can only do this… but it's worth a shot to hear otherwise ;P).
21:49 <+SirCmpwn> so starbound is not without its absurdities
21:49 <+SirCmpwn> packets can't really be strongly typed
21:49 <+SirCmpwn> because their structure changes wildly depending on different conditions
21:55 < turkokcu> hi
22:07 < [1]Drainedsoul> SirCmpwn: Example?
22:07 <+SirCmpwn> they use this Variant type
22:07 <+SirCmpwn> which can hold lots of different kinds of structure
22:07 <+SirCmpwn> this is a "field" within several packets
22:08 < [1]Drainedsoul> Variants are the best
22:08 <+SirCmpwn> I'm thinking of ways to document this and ways to design third party software around it
22:08 <+SirCmpwn> well, I mean, they're fine in general
22:08 <+SirCmpwn> but they abuse them, packets have entirely different meaning in different situations with different structure
22:09 < [1]Drainedsoul> I don't really see how that precludes strong typing though.  Variants are usually understood to be strongly-typed, tagged unions.
22:10 <+SirCmpwn> I mean, it prevents you from having one type per packet
22:10 <+SirCmpwn> which is generally a pretty solid design
22:10 < [1]Drainedsoul> well, the type for the packet just contains a variant type
22:11 <+SirCmpwn> sure, but that's a little crappy to handle at a higher layer
22:12 < [1]Drainedsoul> idk, I use a variant type for working with JSON/NBT data and I don't find it crappy to handle at a higher layer
22:12 <+SirCmpwn> dunno, maybe it's just me
22:12 < [1]Drainedsoul> I think a lot of it would depend on the interface of the variant you're using
22:12 <+SirCmpwn> well, yeah, variants aren't a bad thing in general
22:13 <+SirCmpwn> I'm just saying that they way starbound uses them is a bit crappy
22:15 < [1]Drainedsoul> it probably also depends on the language you're using
22:16 < eddyb> variants?
22:17 < [1]Drainedsoul> yeah, basically a formalization of the concept of a tagged union
22:17 <+SirCmpwn> http://starbound-dev.org/networking/data-types.html
22:17 < eddyb> maybe they should've written the entire thing in Rust
22:17 < eddyb> though it's probably variable length in the network packages
22:18 < [1]Drainedsoul> what does Rust have to do with anything
22:18 < eddyb> ignore that comment
22:45 < MrARM> I want to do impossible - make a Minecraft commit
22:46 < dx> git init; unzip ~/minecraft.jar; git add *; git commit -m "minecraft"
22:46 < MrARM> lol
22:47 <+SirCmpwn> https://mediacru.sh/pqzqRyUnY07e
22:47 < MrARM> Or just a commit named Minecraft
22:47 < dx> and etc
22:48 < dx> "Thanks! We read every one of these" oh god what have i done
22:48 < MrARM> Where it wrote?
22:49 <+SirCmpwn> he made my inbox more full, probably
22:49 < dx> probably
22:49 <+SirCmpwn> did you submit feedback on mediacrush
22:49 < dx> yeah
22:49 < MrARM> Probably...
22:49 <+SirCmpwn> you know you can just tell me what you think about it
22:49 <+SirCmpwn> :P
22:50 < dx> but that feedback form looked so delicious, i HAD to use it
22:50 < MrARM> lol
22:50 < dx> i only realized it was pointless to use it when it was too late and i had sent it
22:51 < dylangellis> What language is Starbound written in?
22:52 <+SirCmpwn> C++ and Lua
22:52 < dylangellis> Ahh
22:52 < dylangellis> And it's opensource?
22:52 < dx> SirCmpwn: how much of it is lua, approximately?
22:52 <+SirCmpwn> no
22:52 <+SirCmpwn> dx: I dunno, I haven't gotten that deep into it
22:52 < MrARM> 100% lol
22:52 < dx> SirCmpwn: i mean, can you do anything useful with the lua part of it?
22:52 <+SirCmpwn> there's a Lua-based modding API
22:53 < dx> whoa api
22:53 < dylangellis> Ahhhh
22:53 < MrARM> Anyway is it possible to decompile Lua application? 
22:53 <+SirCmpwn> I only bought the game like a week ago, I'm not an expert on the subject
22:53 <+SirCmpwn> I thought lua was interpreted, no?
22:53 < dx> yeah it's interpreted
22:53 < dylangellis> quick question, Anyone know how to change the color of the redstone with the WorldParticles packet using Redstone as the particle? If I set the speed to 0,it will be red… anything other than that it will just be random colors. (I have a feeling that it can only do this… but it's worth a shot to hear otherwise ;P).
22:53 <+SirCmpwn> there are better experts on the subject of starbound in ##starbound-dev 
22:53 < MrARM> I don't know, I was looking for Lua decompiler and didnt found it
22:53 <+SirCmpwn> dylangellis: I haven't heard of that, personally
22:54 <+sadimusi> dylangellis: so far I have only observed red and random colors, just like you
22:54 < MrARM> Somebody asks it third time today, finally gets an response, but I think it isnt the one he wanted.
22:55 < dylangellis> Had a feeling, thanks sadimusi
22:56 < MrARM> I think what would happen if you set it to max value
22:56 < dylangellis> Tried, random colors
22:56 < dylangellis> Bit of a shame, could do some neat stuff with that
22:56 < MrARM> Is it signed or unsigned? Maybe negative values?
22:56 < dylangellis> Maybe mojang will implement it in the next update (since they have a /aprticle command)
22:56 < dylangellis> I actually tried min value swell mrram
22:57 < dylangellis> *aswell
22:57 < Thinkofdeath> Pretty sure the /particle is just sending the packet, nothing special
22:57 < MrARM> So I think it's impossible then /:
22:57 < MrARM> I too
22:57 < Thinkofdeath> And the packet hasn't changed
22:58 < dylangellis> Yeah, no I'm thinking Mojang might change it client side, since before it was just used rarely, and now it can be used by everyone.
22:58 < MrARM> I think they won't
22:58 < MrARM> Redstone particles are redstone particles and I doubt they care about making other colors. .
23:00 < dylangellis> hah true, well RAM it's weird because it's textured to have other colors, and it is multicolored
23:00 < dylangellis> if you set the speed of the packet to something other than 0
23:00 < dylangellis> would make sense to have it so that it just applies a color to the redstone based on the speed parameter
23:01 < Thinkofdeath> I'm guessing 'speed' in this case is controlling the speed of the color changing hence why 0 keeps it red
23:01 < MrARM> Heh, possibly...
23:02 < dylangellis> No, there is a speed variable in the packet for all particles
23:02 < dylangellis> Normally it determines lifespan....
23:02 < MrARM> Yes
23:02 < dylangellis> but for redstone it determines color...ish
23:02 < MrARM> But every particle has a special functionality for it
23:02 < dylangellis> (only values are red and LSD color ;P)
23:03 < MrARM> Here it can be color...
23:03 < dylangellis> But it isn't at the moment….well again it kind of is, but the only tow values are red, and multicolor
23:03 < dylangellis> *two
23:05 < MrARM> I think Mojang doesn't add stuff they don't use
23:06 < MrARM> Or are not going to use
23:06 < MrARM> I think that the multicolor thing had it sense for them earlier
23:07 < MrARM> They had an use probably (:
23:13 < dylangellis> lol
23:13 < dylangellis> possibly
23:13 < dylangellis> IDK, maybe ill post something bout it on the reddit… would be interesting to be able to control the color :P
23:14 <+SirCmpwn> I seriously doubt reddit is the resource to turn to
23:14 <+SirCmpwn> this is probably the best place to ask
23:15 < dylangellis> I'm pretty confident the feature isn't in the game… unless I've total yfucked something up. Was going to throw a suggestion on the minecraftsuggestions sr.
23:15 <+SirCmpwn> ah, I see
23:15 <+SirCmpwn> you could start a successful youtube channel
23:15 <+SirCmpwn> dbone would give you all the attention you want if you did that
23:16 < dylangellis> Yeahp. dillydoesminecraft.
23:17 < MrARM> I want this repo to be existent and public : https://github.com/Mojang/Minecraft
23:18 < MrARM> (Or it does exist?)
23:19 < dylangellis> does exist, not public xD.
23:19 < dx> you can do git without github, you know
23:20 < dylangellis> that doesn't make sense dx, github is the hub of gitting
23:20 < dx> not sure if trolling
23:20 < dylangellis> yeah trolling ;P
23:21 < dx> heh, k.
23:21 < dylangellis> idk… i like bitbucket
23:21 < dylangellis> nice having free private repos
23:21 < dylangellis> larger teams
23:21 < dylangellis> etc.
23:21 < MrARM> I think they use a internal BitBucket
23:21 < MrARM> As they like Atlasin
23:21 < dylangellis> that would make sense
23:22 <+SirCmpwn> I don't mind supporting my hosting provider
23:22 <+SirCmpwn> so I don't mind paying for github
23:22 <+SirCmpwn> paying for things is not inherently bad
23:22 < dx> SirCmpwn++
23:22 < MrARM> I think GitHub follows the rules of error codes and if you don't have access to something it won't give you a 404
23:24 < dx> nope, it gives you 404, and it's not so much about following rules but rather about hiding information that is private
23:24 < MrARM> dx Heh, so it may or may not exist.  Lets see can api help me find it out.
23:25 <+SirCmpwn> you can try to clone the repo over ssh
23:25 <+SirCmpwn> or https, I meant
23:26 <+SirCmpwn> hmm, maybe not any more
23:27 < dx> like i said, it's supposed to be private. if there was a way to find about it, it could be considered a vulnerability (although far from a critical one)
23:28 <+SirCmpwn> there used to be a way to find out about it by trying to clone it
23:28 <+SirCmpwn> if it said it didn't exist, it didn't exist
23:28 <+SirCmpwn> if it asked you for credentials and *then* told you it didn't exist, it actually did exist
23:28 < dx> yeah, seems to ask for credentials always now
23:29 < MrARM> I like so much the GitHub is open source - help, and lots of other subpage - but the GitHub itself doesn't
23:29 < MrARM> heh, if the repo exists I would want a critical bug allowing me to clone it
23:29 < dx> i want unicorns too
23:29 <+SirCmpwn> is MrARM new here
23:30 < MrARM> not fully :P
23:30 < MrARM> I am here for some time, but generally silent
23:31 < MrARM> But GitHub has gone thought it early stages and fixed everything
23:31 < dx> SirCmpwn: joined Wed Dec 04 2013
23:31 <+SirCmpwn> yeah
23:31 <+SirCmpwn> I was just grepping my logs for his name
23:32 < MrARM> wow, I don't care about logging everything
23:32 < dx> some day i'm going to postprocess my logs to add full dates to each line, instead of just time
23:32 < dx> searching for the last "day changed" isn't really efficient
23:32 <+SirCmpwn> my logs have dates in the file name
23:32 <+SirCmpwn> I use ZNC
23:32 < dx> i like to have one file per channel
23:32 < MrARM> I don't use a Bouncer it's why
23:33 <+SirCmpwn> I kept logs before I had a bouncer, too
23:33 <+SirCmpwn> I wonder how much I have now
23:33 <+SirCmpwn> 5.7G of plaintext logs
23:33 <+SirCmpwn> 51k files
23:33 < dx> 2.4gb here
23:34 < MrARM> I don't think it's important (nor logging, nor bouncer) so I don't do it
23:34 < MrARM> Lol, its a waste of space for me
23:34 <+SirCmpwn> space is cheap
23:34 < MrARM> Especially because I use a Android client
23:35 < MrARM> And SD Cards aren't so big
23:35 <+SirCmpwn> 5.7 GB is about a third of the space on my phone, and that's two and a half years of logging :P
23:36 < MrARM> 2.5 years of logging. .. heh
23:36 < MrARM> Do you use the logs?
23:36 < dx> --- Log opened Wed Aug 05 22:10:15 2009
23:36 <+SirCmpwn> yeah, all the time
23:36 <+SirCmpwn> I would have more, but I lost them all a while ago :/
23:37 < MrARM> A while ago? How?
23:37 <+SirCmpwn> also, I'm in nearly 200 channels on 8 networks, so that makes it fill up faster
23:37 <+SirCmpwn> they were on a hard drive that I fucked up, and I wasn't keeping backups of IRC logs at the time
23:38 < MrARM> Heh, but for what you use IRC Logs?
23:38 < MrARM> Go back in time? 
23:39 <+SirCmpwn> I generate stats for several channels
23:39 <+SirCmpwn> and I like to reference them from time to time
23:39 <+SirCmpwn> them meaning the logs themselves, just with grep
23:39 <+SirCmpwn> for example, to find out when the first time someone showed up was ;)
23:42 < MrARM> I hate only when my client crashes or the log (not a file,  but that thing I see here) filled up when I was away, or to refer to something which was yesterday
23:42 < MrARM> *or when I want to
23:43 < MrARM> and its lost
23:46 < MrARM> Anyway, I am leaving now.
23:49 < dylangellis> Hmm, anyone have any idea how I might be able to target a set of entities in a cone.
23:50 < dylangellis> 2D cone i should say
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07:33 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 3 commits [+0/-0/±8] http://git.io/N5Y7cA
07:33 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 2b2ef52 - Redid large amounts of ConsoleManager to be more sane.
07:33 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 61cc5fb - Implemented tab-completion and updated JLine version.
07:33 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 4fdfa1a - Added configuration key for console mode and implemented colors on Windows.
08:18 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 1 commit [+0/-0/±5] http://git.io/IOT0cg
08:18 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac c590dcb - Tidied Block and BlockState and implemented some missing methods.
08:39 < Luqman> eddyb: o/
08:41 < eddyb> Luqman: one of these days I'm going to graph the nicks in #mcdevs and #rust
08:41 < eddyb> well, maybe also ##crypto, #llvm, etc.
10:21 < MrARM> Anyone has idea why this is blank and 11 people starred it? https://github.com/Mojang/dcpu-16
10:22 < MrARM> I don't think you can make a repo half private soo...
10:33 < bilde2910> Because Mojang
10:33 < MrARM> Lol, starring a blank repo
10:36 < MrARM> pretty much like what they did here: https://github.com/Mojang/play/commit/e35a86f351c77868c07776e540c7358a6fe3964c Just changed branch name... For what? 
15:10 < TheUnnamedDude> What does the new combat event packet do?
15:13 < Thinkofdeath> Not sure, I've only seen it sent with ENTER_COMBAT and END_COMBAT but it doesn't seem to happen every fight
15:14 < Thinkofdeath> And I have no idea what ENTITY_DEAD's message does
15:19 < TheUnnamedDude> Ok :/
17:54 < SupaHam> can I get Mark2 help here?
21:01 < TheUnnamedDude> Thinkofdeath, https://github.com/TheUnnamedDude/BungeeCord/blob/1.8-snapshot/protocol/src/main/java/net/md_5/bungee/protocol/packet/rewriter/PacketRewriter.java#L10
21:01 < TheUnnamedDude> Basicly the middle 12 bytes is the y
21:10 < TheUnnamedDude> I might have missread it though, however my test decodings seemed fine
21:18 < Thinkofdeath> TheUnnamedDude: I'm getting the second shift as 26 not 12
21:20 < TheUnnamedDude> x is 26 bytes, y is 12 and z is 26
21:20 < TheUnnamedDude> iirc
21:21 < kosgan10> xyzzzz
21:21 < Thinkofdeath> (x & 0x3FFFFFF) << 38 | (y & 0xFFF) << 12 | (z & 0x3FFFFFF)
21:21 < Thinkofdeath> (x & 0x3FFFFFF) << 38 | (y & 0xFFF) << 26 | (z & 0x3FFFFFF)
21:22 < TheUnnamedDude> Ahh, there
21:22 < TheUnnamedDude> Two sec, need to check
21:22 < Thinkofdeath> http://ideone.com/6lxMOW hacked together from minecraft's code
21:24 < TheUnnamedDude> Its 26
21:25 < kosgan10> the 'y'?
21:26 < TheUnnamedDude> I don't really see the point of these two values though;  private static final int g = f; and private static final int i = 0 + g;
21:26 < MrARM> Lol, decompiler magic
21:28 < Thinkofdeath> TheUnnamedDude: http://wiki.vg/Pre-release_protocol#Position
21:29 < Thinkofdeath> Should be correct now
21:29 < TheUnnamedDude> Nice, a bit too late though :P
21:30 < Thinkofdeath> Your not the only person using it :)
21:30 < TheUnnamedDude> No, I know, but for me :P
21:30 < Thinkofdeath> TheUnnamedDude: also https://github.com/TheUnnamedDude/BungeeCord/blob/1.8-snapshot/protocol/src/main/java/net/md_5/bungee/protocol/packet/rewriter/PacketRewriter.java#L14
21:30 < Thinkofdeath> Thanks for the correction on the position format
21:31 < TheUnnamedDude> Yeah, fixed it, just not pushed it yet
21:31 < Thinkofdeath> ah ok
21:32 < TheUnnamedDude> Not before you pointed it out first though
21:32 < TheUnnamedDude> Thanks
21:34  * TheUnnamedDude goes back to tracking bugs
23:12 < DonLouis> hello, is anyone here for a little question about Minecraft multiplayer protocol ? thanks in advance
23:15 < DonLouis> it's about the Status, I receive an ACK with content (the tcp flag push is not enabled)
23:15 < DonLouis> i can't figure how java can deal with it
23:18 < fragmer> Is anyone familiar with the .schematic file format? I'm trying to figure out what the ordering of block IDs is. The wiki page does not specify it: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Schematic_file_format
23:21 <+SirCmpwn> fragmer: TkTech may know
23:22 < fragmer> I was asked to add .schematic support to fCraft's MapConverter utility. It's easy enough to go from classic to premium maps at the moment, but we couldn't find any software that converts back.
23:23 <+SirCmpwn> what do you do for blocks that don't exist in classic?
23:23 <+SirCmpwn> also, fwiw, I have a proxy that does that on the fly
23:23 <+SirCmpwn> oh, no, my proxy does classic->modern on the fly
23:23 < fragmer> I'd just set up a mapping for premium-to-classic blocks. Best-effort conversion.
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00:13 < TkTech> fragmer: https://github.com/mcedit/pymclevel/blob/master/schematic.py#L62
00:15 < fragmer> TkTech: thanks
00:51 < Drainedsoul> I hate libmysqlclient so much
00:59 < Eviltech1e> wtf is that?
00:59 < Eviltech1e> jdbc not good enough?
00:59 < Eviltech1e> oh that's C? Well there's your problem
01:04 <+clonejo> At least C hasn't shitty realtime properties.
01:05 < Drainedsoul> Eviltech1e: There are good C APIs.  libmysqlclient isn't one of them.  libc-ares for example has a really nice API.
05:19 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy pushed 4 commits to mysql_rewrite [+6/-7/±6] http://git.io/xLz4tQ
05:19 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy a397979 - Resource Pool
05:19 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy 0d5b896 - Scope Guard Addition
05:19 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy f60cc55 - MySQL Data Provider Rewrite
05:19 < Not-002> [MCPP] ... and 1 more commits.
05:19 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy pushed 5 commits to master [+12/-14/±12] http://git.io/KRXPvQ
05:19 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy 2878734 - Merge branch 'mysql_rewrite'
05:27 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 1 commit [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/Gn3TKg
05:27 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 29f7cc2 - Tidied and implemented a few minor properties in Entity and LivingEntity (sans actual functionality).
09:29 < Not-002> [fCraft] fragmer * r2324 2 files : Fixed a missing 'using' in Trie, missed when backporting changes from 0.90x
09:32 < Not-002> [fCraft] fragmer * r2325 2 files : ConfigGUI: Fixed a DataError being thrown in the "Worlds" tab after toggling rank prefixes on/off. (Thanks Somebody @ fCraft forums)
09:40 < Not-002> [fCraft] fragmer * r2326 2 files : Added automatic error reporting for more kinds of errors in ConfigGUI.
09:51 < Not-002> [fCraft] fragmer * r2327 210 files : 0.644 final. Updated assembly versions, changelog, readme, copyright notices, and doxyfile.
09:52 < Not-002> [fCraft] fragmer * r2328 2 files : 0.644 tag
15:31 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: hey, you know if anybody has made a Jenkins plugin for notifico?
15:43 < TkTech> Prf_Jakob: There's a ticket, often requested 
15:43 < TkTech> I think I outlined how to do it
15:43 < TkTech> Prf_Jakob: https://github.com/TkTech/notifico/issues/19
15:54 <+Prf_Jakob> thanks
15:57 < TkTech> Prf_Jakob: If you just want something quick for yourself you can just use the plain text hook. There should be other Jenkins examples using the instant-message Jenkins framework to just pass along the text
15:58 <+Prf_Jakob> ok
15:58 <+Prf_Jakob> problem we have is that the current irc plugin keeps breaking
15:58 <+Prf_Jakob> which locks up the build queue.
15:58 < TkTech> Ouch, that seems like a design issue
15:59 <+Prf_Jakob> yeah
15:59 < TkTech> That *shouldn't* happen if you just call out to notifico, since it's just a HTTP POST or GET ideally with a small timeout
15:59 <+Prf_Jakob> yeah
15:59 <+Prf_Jakob> Started 4 days 14 hr ago
16:04 <+Prf_Jakob> ugh, there is no settings for the instant messaging plugin.
16:06 < TkTech> Don't think there's supposed to be
16:06 < TkTech> It's a dependency plugin for other plugins
16:06 <+Prf_Jakob> well I was hoping to not have to write code
16:06 < TkTech> The IRC plugin, Jabber, etc... all use it
16:06 < TkTech> There should be a simple webhook plugin somewhere, no?
16:08 <+Prf_Jakob> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Notification+Plugin
16:09 < TkTech> That looks simple enough, if you send me a pull request I'll deploy it ASAP
16:09 <+Prf_Jakob> again I don't know python
16:09 < TkTech> Lies, everyone knows python. Literally uses English.
16:16 < dx> [x**2 for x in xrange(10)] is literally english
16:18 <+AndrewPH> dx: so is that one sentence where it has Buffallo multiple times
16:19 < dx> AndrewPH: ..touche? i think. maybe. not really sure.
16:19 < MrARM> I don't know python too
16:20 < dx> you don't know english either :P
16:20 < MrARM> I can understand only a part of it, but not write and it is not easy to read for me...
16:21 < MrARM> dx Hmmmm... So what language I use now? Hmmmm...
16:21 < dx> MrARM: just kidding. it's just that your grammar seems weird at times
16:21 < MrARM> Lol
16:21 < MrARM> I know
16:22 < MrARM> I sometimes miss an "I"
16:23 < MrARM> and in IRC I often write a message and I do not read it again... Or hit enter button rather that the remove button
16:24 < MrARM> It happens to me often on touch keyboard
16:26 < dx> tbh i'm not really 100% confident in my english skills. most people tell me it's okay but i'm sure i still keep making silly mistakes
16:26 < dx> also i have absolutely no idea when to use at / on / in. i just use those randomly.
16:28 < MrARM> I think you see the difference with [at, on] and [in] in your native language
16:28 < MrARM> I use them very rarely anyway. 
16:33 < MrARM> And I have a question: Would updating Bukkit to new snapshot be very hard? 
16:35 < dx> likely
16:36 < MrARM> (Of course I understand I need to re-deobsficate it)
16:36 < dx> i guess it depends on how much code is changed in each snapshot. doing it in the pre-1.7 snapshots would be a massive waste of time
16:36 < dx> and i'm not sure if the bukkit devs publicly document their method
16:37 < MrARM> But I can read the source code, right?
16:37 < MrARM> Wait, nvm
16:37 < MrARM> I thought about using proguard+fernflower
16:38 < MrARM> But... Won't I run into issues with That-doesnt-decompilet?
16:38 < MrARM> *decompile
16:40 < MrARM> Or do not use proguard but import the fernflower into eclipse and do refactoring hete
16:40 < TkTech> MrARM: Some files and some Code attributes will fail to decompile but can be disassembled fine.
16:40 < MrARM> *here
16:40 < MrARM> Ok, fine, I have no idea how can I disassemble Java app
16:41 < TkTech> Open up a terminal
16:41 < TkTech> Type javap
16:41 < MrARM> Ahh... I may know what is it...
16:42 < MrARM> I've used it once, to get Java function signatures
16:42 < MrARM> Heh, so I will try at least...
16:50 < MrARM> I've decompiled a few java apps and I have to say JDGUI isn't the tool you want to use
17:06 < TkTech> JD-GUI is quite good.
17:11 < MrARM> TkTech Yup, but I spent about 2 hours where is that a method in Minecraft source code to finally, that it didn't decompile it (found it by using fernflower)
17:26 < MrARM> I meant to "finally, find that"
18:31 < TheUnnamedDude> Has the way sprinting work changed?
18:36 < TheUnnamedDude> in 1.8
18:37 < TheUnnamedDude> Ohhh
18:37 < TheUnnamedDude> I see
18:37 < TheUnnamedDude> I think
18:58 < TheUnnamedDude> k
18:58 < TheUnnamedDude> The wiki is racist
18:58 < TheUnnamedDude> http://screencloud.net/v/7Rj0
18:59 < MrARM> lol
18:59 < MrARM> That really shouldn't be a text field
18:59 < TheUnnamedDude> http://screencloud.net/v/B2pg
18:59 < TheUnnamedDude> ._.
19:01 < TkTech> TheUnnamedDude: ... that's not our wiki is it
19:01 < TheUnnamedDude> Yes
19:01 < TkTech> ... did I do that ...
19:01 < TheUnnamedDude> Well, I got it registered
19:02 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy pushed 1 commit to linux [+0/-2/±3] http://git.io/RZy37Q
19:02 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy pushed 12 commits to master [+34/-4/±31] http://git.io/ihC24A
19:02 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy 8c1eca8 - Merge branch 'linux'
19:02 < TkTech> ^- I should probably make the counts clearer. 12 commits didn't show up because they have distinct filtering on their hook
19:02 < TkTech> The only commit that hadn't been seen before was the merge
19:03 < williamtdr> YES! I can bootstrap!
19:03 < williamtdr> http://status.lbsg.net/
19:03 < williamtdr> :)
19:04 < MrARM> NOO!
19:04 < MrARM> lol
19:04 < Drainedsoul> :(
19:04 < williamtdr> That's for MCPE servers.
19:05 < MrARM> Anyway it's looking good on mobile devices (;
19:05 < MrARM> but...
19:06 < MrARM> Buttons like Capture the flag on the top doesn't work
19:06 < MrARM> williamtdr ↑
19:06 < williamtdr> Yeah, they don't exist yet.
19:06 < williamtdr> I'll add them then.
19:06 < Drainedsoul> I just love commits that remove more lines of code than they add
19:06 < MrARM> And in address bar I see #about, #contact...
19:06 < MrARM> lol
19:06 < williamtdr> :P
19:06 < MrARM> most of mojang ones lol
19:07 < williamtdr> Haven't bothered to change that.
19:07 < MrARM> They have changed 1 million of lines, it doesn't mean they written 1 000 000 lines of code
19:08 < TheUnnamedDude> Is this ok? http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Pre-release_protocol&diff=5407&oldid=5405
19:08 < TheUnnamedDude> Never edited a wiki before, feel free to kill me
19:08 < TkTech> Drainedsoul: While keeping or improving functionality. That's why it annoys me when I see systems where peers are rated based on LoC
19:11 < Drainedsoul> TkTech: Yeah I don't understand how any sane person can rate productivity by lines of code.  By that logic I've done nothing on MCPP since 1.7 was released, pretty sure I've been break even or negative since then.
19:11 < MrARM> I do not rate productivity
19:11 < MrARM> They did alot
19:12 < MrARM> Those biomes was very hard to code
19:13 < TkTech> Drainedsoul: We are 100% python here, and often as new libraries come out and we make old code into their own modules we slash thousands of LoC for an import and a line in setup.py
19:14 < TkTech> I'm proud to say my github stats for the main B2B repo are massively negative
19:15 < TkTech>  61,043 ++ / 47,241 --
19:15 < Drainedsoul> TkTech: If anything the people who are consistently negative are the most productive, since they're keeping other people in check.  I know this because I work with PHP.
19:15 < Drainedsoul> TkTech: Python is one of those languages that interests and frightens me at the same time.
19:16 < TkTech> Speaking of scary languages, are you still a fan of D Prf_Jakob?
19:17 < TkTech> I've been watching D(2), golang and rust and it seems D is falling behind
19:17 < Drainedsoul> Well golang and Rust have bigger pushers as far as I know.
19:17 < Drainedsoul> although golang doesn't have generics, so that's a big point against it in my books
19:18 < Drainedsoul> but I'm a C++ heathen, what do I know
19:18 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: well I'm making my own language (D inspired).
19:18 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: so both yes and no.
19:18 < TkTech> V is written in D isn't it?
19:19 <+Prf_Jakob> yes
19:19 <+Prf_Jakob> we are slowly porting it over to V(olt)
19:19 < TkTech> That moment when you achieve self-hosting status is fantasssstic
19:19 <+Prf_Jakob> Yeah :)
19:20  * TkTech did osdev for years, back pat moment was always portning nasm and gcc
19:20 <+Prf_Jakob> :)
21:45 < MrARM> Is MCP gonna be continued after Searge left?
21:49 < Krenair> Wait what? Searge left?
21:50 < dexter0> He didn't leave the project unless something changed since the announcement of his hiring at Minecon. 
21:52 < MrARM> I really think Mojang doesn't want him to work with MCP
21:52 < MrARM> He has direct access to original source code...
21:53 < MrARM> I meant "after Searge joined Mojang"
21:53 < dx> he had "indirect" access to the original source code before too
21:54 < dx> i mean, he used to get the obfuscation mappings directly from mojang
21:54 < dx> (or at least that's what i heard)
21:54 < MrARM> Yes... I heard it too, but then why he wouldn't just use them? 
21:55 < dx> why do you think he didn't use them?
21:55 < MrARM> These are the info you need to reverse obsfucation
21:55 < MrARM> dx in 1.7.2 version of MCP are there field names named? 
21:55 < dx> ...dunno?
21:55 < MrARM> Or the log he got was incomplete maybe. .?
21:56 < MrARM> I think these aren't. 
21:56 < dx> i didn't even know MCP for 1.7.2 was finished
21:56 < MrARM> It isnt
21:56 < MrARM> I meant it that beta
21:56 < MrARM> dx ↑
21:57 < dx> dat arrow
21:57 < MrARM> I was gonna add thar beta text
21:57 < MrARM> Yes. And?
21:57 < MrARM> *that
21:58 < dx> anyway uh i don't know what searge did with the mappings and i'm not going to start speculating randomly about that
21:58 < MrARM> I think either he got incomplete ones or just didn't wanted to use them or just didn't got them
21:59 < dx> yes, that's what i call speculation.
21:59 < MrARM> I don't think there are other options. 
21:59 < dx> might be more effective to just go to the mcp irc channel and ask them
22:00 < MrARM> K, Ill do so
22:09 < MrLovejoy> Hi
22:10 < MrARM> Hello.
22:10 < MrLovejoy> Hello MrArm i had no idea u were here
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02:23 < williamtdr> Anywhere ever used xdebug?
02:34 < iBotPeaches> williamtdr: is there more than one? I'm using the PHP one now
02:35 < williamtdr> iBotPeaches, I meant for php.
02:35 < iBotPeaches> then yes, I'm debugging a laravel app now using it
02:35 < williamtdr> OK, any experience in using it outside a web server?
02:36 < iBotPeaches> no sorry only local web-server stuff
03:42 < Not-002> [fNbt] fragmer pushed 2 commits to master [+1/-0/±4] http://git.io/h0-ZEw
03:42 < Not-002> [fNbt] fragmer 2a6f963 - Reverted accidentally-committed changes to fNbt.sln, which were meant to facilitate internal testing.
03:42 < Not-002> [fNbt] fragmer 052324c - Continued refactoring work on NbtCompiler, to allow creating decompilers using the same framework.
06:40 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy pushed 4 commits to master [+18/-19/±6] http://git.io/AM9YgQ
06:40 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy ef0344a - Makefile Tweaks
06:40 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy f55c71a - Makefile Organization
06:40 < Not-002> [MCPP] RobertLeahy b484910 - Build Script Cleanup
06:40 < Not-002> [MCPP] ... and 1 more commits.
07:05 <+SirCmpwn> I found this: https://miners-movies.com/
07:05 <+SirCmpwn> it's quite cool
07:05 <+SirCmpwn> connect to 94x9fbyphq.v.miners-movies.com with 1.7.4 for a quick demo
07:06 <+SirCmpwn> records gameplay and lets you spectate after the fact
07:11 <+SpaceManiac> spiffy, but it looks like it requires your login info?
07:13 <+SirCmpwn> it requires your auth token
07:13 <+SirCmpwn> and asks for your login info if you're not savvy
07:13 <+SirCmpwn> but it has instructions with curl: https://miners-movies.com/auth/accesstoken
07:13 <+SirCmpwn> auth token expires after 7 days, fwiw
07:14 <+SirCmpwn> they've put a lot of work into this, the whole thing is very polished
07:14 <+SirCmpwn> (still exploring it)
07:15 <+SpaceManiac> Ah, neat. Had trouble figuring out how to work it since I'd forgotten I'd disabled chat links
07:18 < dx> SirCmpwn: dividuum made that, he usually lurks here, but disconnected a few hours ago
07:18 <+SirCmpwn> oh, neat
07:18 <+SirCmpwn> I sent him an email cause I didn't see him here and I expected him to be here :x
07:19 <+SirCmpwn> I should bug him to open source it
14:11 < Dragon707> exit
14:11 < Dragon707> exit
14:12 < Dragon707> whoops
14:12 < Dragon707> forgot the / hehheh
18:54 < morfin> hmmm
18:55 < morfin> how do you think is there other way than just dispatch packets using bungee cord
18:56 < morfin> i see next problem: if central server crashes any server using that central server as proxy is going to be down
19:42 <+sadimusi> is anybody in here with a crappy internet connection willing to test something real quick?
19:43 < jspiros> how crappy?
19:44 <+sadimusi> doesn't really matter, I just need an opinion from someone with an "average" connection
19:44 < dx> 5mbit/s here, randomly fails with some connections
19:44 <+sadimusi> that should do, I'll send you a query
19:45 < dx> i'm paying for 6mbit/s but the dsl line noise limits it to 5mbit/s
20:44 < TkTech> Didn't we used to have someone who was so slow he could DoS classic servers?
20:44 < TkTech> fragmer: I know you know who I'm thinking of
20:46 < Morrolan> You could dos classic servers by having a slow connection? oO
20:47 < dx> did it have blocking networking in the same thread as everything else?
20:47 < Morrolan> That'd be a rather interesting design decision. ^^
20:48 < MCMrARM> lol
20:48 <+AndrewPH> I think the only software that was affected by slow clients was JTE
20:48 < TkTech> Yuuuuuuuuup.
20:48 < TkTech> IIRC, the map was locked when a new client was joining.
20:49 < TkTech> It was an accidental trickle attack.
20:49 <+AndrewPH> and wasn't it only when sending ma- yeah
20:50 <+AndrewPH> funny story, I still have a copy of JTE.
20:51 <+AndrewPH> original and I think with mail2345's mods
20:51 < MCMrARM> what JTE I
20:51 < MCMrARM> *is?
20:51 < MCMrARM> Google didn't help.
20:53 <+AndrewPH> MCMrARM: one of the first 2 or 3 custom servers for classic
20:53 < MCMrARM> Ah, k
20:54 <+AndrewPH> written in, ah, perl.
20:54 < MCMrARM> lol
20:55 < MCMrARM> Anyway is Minecraft obsfucated from its early days?
20:57 <+AndrewPH> Yep, right from the very start
20:57 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: your thing is really well done, looks very good
20:57 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: how long have you been working on it?
20:58 <+AndrewPH> TkTech: also I think you're thinking of either tarkata or cial. they both had dialup, although only one of the two has been active on irc since the early days
20:59 <+AndrewPH> or maybe not, but they were two really active people I can think of who had dialup.
21:02 < dividuum> SirCmpwn, started in september, with huge pauses in between
21:02 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: what's it built with?
21:02 < dividuum> SirCmpwn, python :)
21:02 <+SirCmpwn> the level of quality suggests "I think I will make money from this somehow"
21:02 <+SirCmpwn> any plans to monetize?
21:03 < dividuum> not sure how yet. But i'd have to try at some point.
21:03 <+SirCmpwn> any thoughts around open sourcing it?
21:03 < MCMrARM> What did he did?  My IRC log doesn't have anything released with him...
21:03 <+SirCmpwn> MCMrARM: https://miners-movies.com/
21:04 < dividuum> i think i'll release my minecraft protocol parser library soon
21:04 < dividuum> the rest is closed for now
21:05 < MCMrARM> wow!
21:05 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: I had a thought on usability
21:05 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: would you like to hear it?
21:05 < dividuum> sure!
21:05 <+SirCmpwn> rewinding isn't very usable, and the speed selection is too granular
21:06 <+SirCmpwn> why not move the compass to the middle of the inventory and have reverse speeds on the left?
21:06 < dividuum> because reversing speed isn't possible right now. the recordings only go forward
21:06 < dividuum> making them go backwards is a huge task
21:06 < dividuum> i'll do that some day, but i'm not sure when it's done
21:06 <+SirCmpwn> well, assume all the infrastructure involved would also be a part of my thought
21:07 <+SirCmpwn> also, reverse *playback* is perhaps not required
21:07 <+SirCmpwn> but how about jumping backwards at set intervals?
21:07 < dividuum> yeah. that's how i'll implement it. i think. i didn't even start thinking about that properly :)
21:08 <+SirCmpwn> seeking to a specific time with a command would also be pretty nice
21:08 <+SirCmpwn> just playback control in general could use some improvement
21:08 <+SirCmpwn> overall, though, it's very cool and very polished
21:08 < dividuum> thanks :)
21:08 < dividuum> once i can jump to any point in a recording, i'd have to rethink the controls anyway. it can only get better :-)
21:09 <+SirCmpwn> regarding open source, the reason I ask is because I want to be able to run it all locally
21:09 <+SirCmpwn> there might be a closed source solution for that, dunno
21:12 < MCMrARM> Anyway does it download the chunks to your server?
21:15 < MCMrARM> I am too lazy to check,  but what happens when you Q and playback item?
21:15 < MCMrARM> *an
21:22 < TkTech> AndrewPH: Technically you lie. A couple versions of classic and infdev were released by accident that were not obfuscated
21:22 < TkTech> Cial sounds right, I remember him.
21:23 < TkTech> dividuum: That looks fantastic. Have you shared it yet?
21:23 < TkTech> dividuum: I'd be really interested in the analytics
21:24 < dividuum> not with /r/minecraft yet
21:24 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: I found it through your xkcd tool, which is also wonderful
21:24 < TkTech> You'll almost assuredly suffer the hug of love/death
21:24 < dividuum> oh. nice. just added that link like 3 days ago :-)
21:24 <+SirCmpwn> I've got some server infrastructure to spare, if you want some help surviving the launch
21:24 < dividuum> TkTech, probably
21:25 < dividuum> i'll have to add feature flags, so i can disable stuff when the load gets too high
21:26 < TkTech> The recording server would have to be behind a load balancer and spammed
21:26 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: how do you handle playback, is it a full blown server like bukkit or is it something custom and lightweight
21:26 < TkTech> I'd be more worried about it surviving than the frontend
21:26 <+SirCmpwn> I'm more worried about playback, which is the best demo imo because you can jump straight in
21:26 < dividuum> it's all in python. no original minecraft code anywhere (not sure if that's an advantage or not :-))
21:26 <+SirCmpwn> nice
21:27 < dividuum> i'm not sure if i'll keep the recording feature on the server side as it is right now. using the desktop recorder (miners-movies.com/desktop-recorder) has quite a lot of advantages
21:28 <+SirCmpwn> you might be convinced to open source the desktop recorder and keep the rest closed
21:28 <+SirCmpwn> I'd be more comfortable sharing my minecraft login with that
21:29 < dividuum> yeah. i'll probably do that
21:29 <+SirCmpwn> except, I'd need linux support :x
21:29 < dividuum> oh. btw, you don't have to provide the login. you can also provide a valid access token
21:29 <+SirCmpwn> which is better, sure, but still not ideal
21:29 <+SirCmpwn> bug mollstam to implement oauth already :P
21:30 < dividuum> yeah. open sourcing would solve that. :)
21:30 <+sadimusi> SirCmpwn: all it does is replay the packet stream, so no need for server logic
21:30 <+SirCmpwn> does it only replay the packet stream?
21:30 < dividuum> there's a little more than that :)
21:31 <+sadimusi> I must day, I haven't used it in weeks
21:31 <+sadimusi> *say
21:31 <+SirCmpwn> presumably it does a bit more, since you can leave the perspective of the original player
21:31 < dividuum> the basic idea is replaying, but that wouldn't include the recording player
21:31 < dividuum> also non of the analyze features
21:32 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: do you save all the chunks seperately from the rest of the stream
21:32 <+SirCmpwn> would be a good idea so that you can explore the map beyond the recorder's loaded chunks
21:38 < dividuum> that unfortunately no information that's available to the recording player. i might stop the viewer from unloading them, but they would then observe outdated information
21:39 <+SirCmpwn> yeah, it would be a little complicated
21:42 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 1 commit [+0/-0/±3] http://git.io/5cfRaA
21:42 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 793c07d - Moved some inventory stuff from Player to HumanEntity.
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04:30 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 1 commit [+0/-0/±3] http://git.io/XMIEtQ
04:30 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac 88716fc - Implemented isPrimaryThread and callSyncMethod, along with helper syncIfNeeded.
06:55 < TkTech> Fun night! AWS account got attacked by skiddies. Brought up a bunch of EC2 g2.xlarge instances to do litecoin mining.
06:55 < TkTech> Silly billies tried to cover their tracks.
06:55 < TkTech> He has an open-to-the-world getwork proxy at http://ontscvpwta3i6too.onion:8332
06:56 < TkTech> So I've got a bunch of micro's spamming getwork JSON-RPC requests. Enjoy not making any money!
06:57 < Brandon15811> heh
07:33 < humerusj> TkTech: how'd they attack it?
12:09 < dav1d> does anyone know when I quit?
12:11 < SinZ> [19:05] GMT + 11
12:12 < SinZ> ~3 hours ago
12:13 < dav1d> thanks
14:15 < mcpemodder> Normal minecraft is boring
14:16 < zutto> minecraft itself is boring
14:25 <+AndrewPH> everything minecraft is boring
14:26 < MrARM> World is boring 
14:27 < mcpemodder> I wanna zombie apokalypse, then world isnt anymore boring
14:27 < MrARM> And I wanna Minecraft source code 
17:54 < dav1d> ammar2: ping
17:57 < TheUnnamedDude> pong
18:59 < dav1d> ammar2: kk forget it, figured it out :P
18:59 < dav1d> ty anyways
19:30 < TkTech> dav1d: You're going to make Prf_Jakob a happy man.
19:31 < dav1d> TkTech: I already did :)
19:31 < dav1d> TkTech: just submitted the pull check https://github.com/TkTech/notifico/issues/19 https://github.com/TkTech/notifico/issues/50
19:35 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: you should check the volt channel :)
19:37 < dav1d> yea, was spamming the crap out of it :P
19:42 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: you going to merge that?
19:43 < TkTech> dav1d: 10 pep8 errors, other than that looks good
19:43 < dav1d> TkTech: where?
19:44 < dav1d> I know, one line is 2 chars above the line limit, but meh, looks bad if I split it
19:46 < dav1d> TkTech: if you used a linter, can you tell me the name?
19:46 < dav1d> then I can change that asap and we can make Prf_Jakob happy
19:47 < TkTech> dav1d: Already fixed, pushed, deploying
19:47 < dav1d> TkTech: nice!
19:47 < dav1d> actually, I'm a derp
19:47 < TkTech> dav1d: I use vim-jedi for completion and pyflakes for linting
19:47 < dav1d> pip2 install pep8
19:47 < dav1d> pyflakes kk
19:49 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: F5 F5 F5 F%
19:49 < dav1d> :D
19:50 < TkTech> And it's live.
19:50 < TkTech> Thank you dav1d 
19:50 < dav1d> TkTech: https://github.com/TkTech/notifico/issues/19 can be closed, I guess
19:50 < dav1d> TkTech: thank Prf_Jakob :D
19:51 < dav1d> but np, you did a good job with notifico!
19:54 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: btw, is it still my volt project that has the most messages?
19:54 < TkTech> dav1d: You broke it
19:55 < dav1d> TkTech: oh noes?
19:55 < TkTech> Prf_Jakob: http://n.tkte.ch/s/projects?s=messages
19:55 < TkTech> Prf_Jakob: The top 2 projects are both private
19:55 < TkTech> Top has 156459 messages
19:55 <+Prf_Jakob> Hehe okay :)
19:55 < dav1d> ha! wow
19:56 < TkTech> Still, top 5
19:56 <+Prf_Jakob> yeah :)
19:56 < dav1d> BERNERADH GET TO WORK :D
19:56 < TkTech> dav1d: If you join #notifico you'll see the sentry errors
22:16 < MrLovejoy> Hi
22:54 < dav1d> TkTech: I found two really minor issues, gonna fix these tomorrow
22:56 < TkTech> dav1d: Roger wilco. Thanks again. You've already got 6 users.
22:56 < dav1d> wow! :D
23:01 < TkTech> I should show a "Top Services" or "Top Hooks" or something on the front page with the rest...
23:02 < TkTech> There's a lot of stuff that's just hidden, like the sorting and user stats...
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04:47 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac deleted branch encryption
16:39 < TkTech> dav1d: Thanks
16:41 < dav1d> :)
18:37 < morfin> hmmm
18:37 < morfin> since when chat is using JSON?
18:38 < dx> lol
18:38 < morfin> there is even clickEvent :O
18:39 < dx> lol
18:43 < dx> to answer your first question: since 1.6 or snapshot 13w21a from 2013-05-23
18:44 < morfin> oooh
18:45 < dx> § based color codes are deprecated-ish and working due to backwards compatibility right now, might be removed at any time
18:47 < morfin> there is color property in JSON as i can see
18:48 < morfin> but can i send several objects with different properties?
18:49 < morfin> as example i want to have regular text, then some item(blue,underline,hover shows it) then something else
18:50 < dividuum> use the array in 'extra'
18:50 < dividuum> just add more objects in there. they'll be concatenated.
18:51 < morfin> oh
18:51 < morfin> i saw GSON is server client implementation
18:52 < morfin> so i think it should parse valid JSON properly
18:52 < morfin> good news that Minecraft is finally using UTF-8 not UTF-16
18:52 < morfin> but i guess it's still big-endian
18:54 < dx> nothing wrong with big endian
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00:18 < Drainedsoul> morfin: What's wrong with big endian?  The endianness is the one thing that Minecraft does RIGHT.  Big endian IS network byte order.
00:29 <+SirCmpwn> ^
00:29 < dividuum> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp7h_583Mi8 :-)
00:35 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: nice
00:35 < dividuum> best coverage up to this point :)
00:39 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: how do you know everyone else's life?
00:39 <+SirCmpwn> dividuum: just guessing based on what's going on?
00:40 < dividuum> it's sent in one of the packets.
00:40 < dividuum> not sure which, i'd have to look at the code again
00:40 <+SirCmpwn> I thought that was just for the actual player
00:40 <+SirCmpwn> and not for everyone else
00:40 < dividuum> nope. everyone else too
00:40 <+SirCmpwn> that must be new
00:42 < dividuum> it's been in 1.6 too. not sure about earlier versions
00:43 <+SirCmpwn> well, I started writing Minecraft code in beta 1.8, the versions tend to melt together in my head :P
00:43 < dx> dividuum: whoa, i didn't know you got that far with the project. this looks awesome.
00:45 < dividuum> thx :)
00:45 < dx> dividuum: but how do you proxy to other servers? i thought that was impossible without asking for user/pass
00:45 <+sadimusi> dividuum: yeah, you really polished it up since I saw it the last time
00:45 < dividuum> it is. that's why i'm asking for that or for an access token
00:45 < dividuum> *it is not
00:45  * sadimusi remembers three villagers on a flat amp
00:45 < dividuum> yeah. that was quite a while ago :-)
00:49 <+SirCmpwn> did you build the hub or did you get some help
00:51 < dividuum> recruited my fellow minecraft playing friends :)
00:51 < dividuum> (when we're not building lobbies, we're building this: http://hcfluffy.de/bases/)
01:00 <+SirCmpwn> I am unable to play minecraft for fun anymore
01:44 < humerusj> SirCmpwn: have you tried out the snapshots?
01:44 <+SirCmpwn> not for 1.8
01:45 < humerusj> When amplified mode was released, that triggered my want to play again  
01:50 < dx> just googled what amplified mode is about. with that name i always thought it was something like large biomes, so i always ignored it, but damn http://i.imgur.com/DtYeEDO.jpg
01:54 < humerusj> It's amazing to explore
02:03 < Not-002> [fCraft] fragmer * r2329 2 files : Ported ConfigGUI fixes and improvements from /branch-0.60x/ (r2325 and r2326)
02:32 < Drainedsoul> I don't understand why people think "amplified" is so interesting.  The challenge with generating worlds is NOT generating something like that.
02:33 < Drainedsoul> i.e. generating "normal" looking worlds is a challenge, generating strange worlds like "amplified" is not difficult
02:54 <+AndrewPH> Drainedsoul: because cool-looking stuff is sometimes not hard to make, and normal-looking things aren't as interesting
07:01 < WizardCM> hey guys, i don't know where else to ask so here goes - is it possible to retexture the background of the hover? this -> http://scr.wizrd.tk/scr/2014-01-31_17-01-01.png
07:08 < Eviltechie> I'm sure if you modified the client
07:08 < WizardCM> yeah it looks like that's the only possible method - as there doesn't seem to be a texture file for it, and it'd have to be tiled or calculated
07:08 < WizardCM> so i'm guessing it's calculated in the client itself
07:09 < Eviltechie> probably hardcoded
07:09 < WizardCM> bummer
08:56 < Not-002> [Glowstone] SpaceManiac pushed 5 commits [+62/-110/±62] http://git.io/-vc1Bg
08:56 < Not-002> [Glowstone] desmin88 b5dca8f - Begin work on encrypted authentication, decryption of secret and tokens.
08:56 < Not-002> [Glowstone] desmin88 3f32a8e - Big flow-networking update.
08:56 < Not-002> [Glowstone] desmin88 5fd07be - Implemented encrypted connections.
08:56 < Not-002> [Glowstone] ... and 2 more commits.
08:59 <+SpaceManiac> Phew, that was complicated to merge.
13:11 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: <Not-001> [ClassiCube-Client] ... and 1 more commits. <-- so that doesn't seem that smart...
15:51 < MellissaTheBest_> I found it!
15:51 < MellissaTheBest_> http://j.gs/3Nkb !!!
15:51 < MellissaTheBest_> Ups, wrong channel
15:51 < MellissaTheBest_> Sorry Guys, Love you, Bye!
16:10 < dav1d> Brottweiler: u there?
16:16 < Brottweiler> yes
16:19 < Brottweiler> dav1d: YES
16:19 < dav1d> Brottweiler: server might go down soon, probably installing arch :o
16:19 < Brottweiler> :o
16:19 < Brottweiler> ok
16:20 < dav1d> but hopefully only for a few hours
16:20 < dav1d> that's ok for you`
16:20 < Brottweiler> if its before hl3 yes its ok
16:20 < dav1d> haha
16:37 < dav1d> Brottweiler: it's time
21:42 < dav1d> Brottweiler: everything setup again!
21:42 < dav1d> Brottweiler: you need to reenter your nickserv password, everything else should be still the same
22:35 < Brottweiler> dav1d: k
22:35 < Brottweiler> dav1d: you mean *nickserv?
22:35 < Brottweiler> like the znc module
22:35 < dav1d> Brottweiler: and you really should change your zncpassword, IamBrottTheKing1337 is really childish
22:35 < dav1d> Brottweiler: yapp the znc module
22:35 < Brottweiler> O.o
22:36 < dav1d> Brottweiler: jk^^
22:36 < Brottweiler> but i am the king leet
22:36 < dav1d> :D
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00:30 < WizardCM> the durability bars.. are they hardcoded or can they be configured with a resource pack?
00:31 < Thinkofdeath> WizardCM: hardcoded
00:31 < WizardCM> bummer
00:32 < WizardCM> because even when the server 'corrects' the durability to max as soon as it can, the bar still shows up for a split second, was hoping i could make it transparent or something
00:32 < WizardCM> oh well
00:32 < WizardCM> i've been having a lot of fun making textures for the past couple of days.. http://scr.wizrd.tk/2014-02-01_10-28-37.png :D
00:33 < Thinkofdeath> WizardCM: Pretty sure there is an "Unbreakable" tag for items which removes it
00:34 < WizardCM> yeah that's what i thought
00:50 < WizardCM> what would be the right way to fix bolded font? http://wizrd.tk/rg1qzl
03:37 < WizardCM> the stack counters don't have a 'prefixable' colour code that can be changed, do they?
10:14 < Fenhl> is it true that the mob head block (numeric id 144) and item (397) have the same internal name, minecraft:skull?
10:35 < t89> Fenhl, you'll probably find the item is skill_item
10:35 < t89> *skull
10:36 < Fenhl> t89: it says minecraft:skull in player.dat files
10:37 < MCMrARM> I think it's possible
10:37 < MCMrARM> When you use /give it will give the item, when /setblock it will set the block
10:37 < Fenhl> great, now I need separate databases for blocks and items
10:38 < MCMrARM> Fenhl try using setblock
10:38 < MCMrARM> Because I am not sure
10:38 < Fenhl> it works
10:38 < MCMrARM> heh, so probably it is like that
10:39 < MCMrARM> It's like you use /give command and /setblock command_block
10:40 < t89> i cant seem to obtain 144 through commands
10:40 < Fenhl> no, they disabled the numeric ids
10:40 < MCMrARM> t89 because you can't
10:41 < t89> it said giving me some 144 (SKULL)
10:41 < MCMrARM> Even if they support numeric ids they would disable items
10:41 < MCMrARM> w
10:42 < MCMrARM> What? 
10:42 < leon_> hello
10:42 < leon_> is this mc devs
10:42 < MCMrARM> hello
10:42 < Fenhl> what?
10:42 < Fenhl> yes
10:42 < MCMrARM> 10 people joined at same time
10:42 < Fenhl> there was a netsplit
10:42 < t89> netsplit
10:42 < MCMrARM> Yes
10:43 < leon_> I need debs for my mc server can anyone help email me at leonps135@gmail.com if you could help??? Thx leon
10:43 < leon_> devs"
10:43 < t89> debs?
10:43 < MCMrARM> There was a bigger one
10:43 < MCMrARM> Devs I think
10:43 < leon_> yes devs
10:43 < t89> of what kind?
10:43 < t89> you're being very vague
10:43 < leon_> developers for bukkit
10:44 < t89> maybe you should head over to the bukkit irc then
10:44 < t89> or forums
10:44 < leon_> I need a full time developer team for my mc server
10:44 < MCMrARM> Even thought lots of us write Bukkit, I don't think you will find anybody here
10:44 < MCMrARM> *Bukkit plugins
10:45 < leon_> I have looked everywhere for devs but no luck
10:45 < t89> "everywhere"
10:45 < t89> impossible
10:45 < leon_> Pls anyone i really need a dev team
10:45 < MCMrARM> Full time developer?!
10:45 < leon_> ok everywhere i know
10:45 < leon_> Well you know do a few plugins
10:45 < t89> have you considered learning java and starting off developing yourself?
10:45 < leon_> I can do a little java but not well
10:46 < leon_> Can anyone help?
10:46 < t89> tried bukkit forums? spigot forums?
10:46 < leon_> A bukkit forms don't allow "private plugins" and spigot i would ant know where to start
10:47 <+SirCmpwn> leon_: this is not the place to start
10:47 < MCMrARM> And maybe use existing plugins and use plugin requests
10:47 <+SirCmpwn> leon_: this channel is for an entirely different kind of development
10:47 <+SirCmpwn> leon_: try #bukkit on irc.esper.net
10:47 < t89> iirc they don't allow that kind of chatter
10:47 < t89> "looking for dev"
10:47 <+SirCmpwn> try posting on a job board if you really want a full timer
10:48 < leon_> sorry i just am a bit desperate
10:48 < leon_> thx anyway for your time
10:50 < t89> also i had a quick look: blockRegistry.addObject(144, "skull", 
10:50 < t89> itemRegistry.addObject(397, "skull", 
10:50 < t89> @ Fenhl 
10:50 < MCMrARM> Exactly as I thought
10:50 < Fenhl> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
10:50 < t89> why u do this mojan!
10:51 < MCMrARM> To make you write less?
10:51 < MCMrARM> (commands)
10:52 < t89> Fenhl, it this really much of a problem?
10:52 < MCMrARM> And what are you doing? 
10:52 < MCMrARM> t89 this means a rewrite for him probably...
10:53 < t89> yeah he said that above
10:53 < t89> but i'm curious
10:53 < Fenhl> I'm updating a jsonfile of blocks and items which is used in various places around a private server's infrastructure
10:54 < MCMrARM> If you are writing a plugin maybe use Material.getMaterial rather than json? (Or it isnt your plugin?)
10:54 < Fenhl> it's not a plugin
10:55 < MCMrARM> ah, k, so
10:55 < MCMrARM> Maybe parse decompiled vanilla file?
10:55 < Fenhl> we're not running Bukkit, instead we're trying to get as much as possible out of the vanilla server
10:56 < MCMrARM> Whoa. I didn't known it's possible to load .json in vanilla
10:56 < t89> i guess you need two dictionaries, one for items one for blocks
10:56 < Fenhl> we're not loading it into the game
10:57 < MCMrARM> hmmm... So why you need it...
10:57 < t89> parsing player.dat files i think he said
10:57 < Fenhl> the website for example
10:57 < Fenhl> http://wurstmineberg.de/
10:57 < Fenhl> if you look at one of the people pages, there's things like stats for the blocks and items
10:58 < Fenhl> eg http://wurstmineberg.de/people/fenhl#blocks
10:58 < Fenhl> the inventory display doesn't work anymore because it needs the new id system
10:59 < MCMrARM> hmmm
11:00 < t89> interesting stuff
11:00 < MCMrARM> t89 I meant to parse a file from minecraft source code to make a .json from it
11:01 < Fenhl> I'm probably just going to keep using the numeric ids and add the new ids as one of the fields
11:01 < t89> MCMrARM, i meant that's why he needs it 
11:01 < t89> (i'm correct)
11:01 < MCMrARM> I remember, when writing an mod for MCPE, when I had to name all the IDs
11:02 < MCMrARM> Took about 5 hours
11:02 < MCMrARM> It was on MCPE
11:02 < shoghicp> I've the constants ;)
11:03 < shoghicp> you have the Burger output for Minecraft PC
11:03 < MCMrARM> lol, I could just parse them. ..
11:03 < MCMrARM> ...1.7.x?
11:04 < MCMrARM> shoghicp Not for 1.7.4
11:04 < shoghicp> :(
11:05 < MCMrARM> He needs to replace ids with texts
11:05 < MCMrARM> Anyway I thought they still use ids in storage but looks like I'm wrong
11:08 < Fenhl> since they're not unique, I'll just add the text ids as one of the fields, and rewrite the inventory thing to use that
11:08 < MCMrARM> shoghicp I wonder does _tomcc use IRC?
11:09 < shoghicp> hmm, no, only Johan
11:09 < shoghicp> I invited him to #mcdevs, #mcpedevs and #pocketmine
11:09 < shoghicp> he goes there between Monday-Friday
11:10 < MCMrARM> lol, did you said it's freenode?
11:11 < MCMrARM> Wait, nvm
11:12 < MCMrARM> shoghicp Who did you invite? Johan or _tomcc? 
11:12 < shoghicp> Johan
11:12 < MCMrARM> Did you try inviting tomcc?
11:12 < shoghicp> tomcc sometime talks using his account xD
11:12 < shoghicp> not directly ;)
11:12 < MCMrARM> lol
11:14 < MCMrARM> _tomcc responded even to my stupid tweet
11:14 < shoghicp> I'll ask him on Monday
11:16 < shoghicp> MCMrARM: also, I updated the Android binary
11:17 < shoghicp> it contains the new things that the dev. uses
11:17 < MCMrARM> Shoghicp THANKS!
11:17 < shoghicp> and phpize
11:17 < shoghicp> so you can compile extensions "easily"
11:17 < MCMrARM> It's a great moment for me
11:17 < MCMrARM> Now write anti-CompleteMCNoob stuff and Ill do the update
11:17 < shoghicp> yeah xD
11:18 < shoghicp> remember, this is for the dev. only
11:18 < MCMrARM> and I'll do update notifications (;
11:18 < shoghicp> it uses a different structure
11:18 < shoghicp> or just change the start.sh file
11:18 < MCMrARM> shoghicp did you fix internet connection in it?
11:18 < MCMrARM> shoghicp I don't use start.sh ...
11:18 < shoghicp> that is a werid cross-compilation error
11:19 < shoghicp> weird*
11:19 < shoghicp> we compile it on jenkins.pocketmine.net:8080
11:19 < shoghicp> you will have to talk that with Brandon15811
11:19 < shoghicp> he got it working, and the cross-compilation things are there
11:20 < shoghicp> basic_functions.c:(.text+0x10f4): warning: Using 'getservbyname' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking
11:20 < shoghicp> hmm
11:20 < shoghicp> interesting
11:20 < shoghicp> same for gethostbyaddr
11:20 < MCMrARM> So its the error here
11:20 < shoghicp> yeah xD
11:20 < MCMrARM> Bradon15811 ↑
11:21 < MCMrARM> I think the simplest fix would be to use Android internet apis
11:21 < shoghicp> I think he *should* be sleeping right now
11:21 < MCMrARM> or include the lib in compile
11:21 < shoghicp> let's see if I can fix it
11:22 < MCMrARM> shoghicp or see is the lib in Android sdk and if it, modify makefile
11:24 < shoghicp> I've to run all the commands there through Jenkins builds >.<
11:24 < shoghicp> let's find it
11:27 < MrARM> clicked close server by mistake
11:28 < MrARM> shoghicp why you have to use Jenkins? 
11:29 < shoghicp> We can build them directly
11:29 < MrARM>  But? 
11:30 < shoghicp> We test PHP binaries on Linux 32-bit, Linux 64-bit, Android, Mac and Raspberry Pi in one go
11:31 < MrARM> wow
11:31 < MrARM> No Windows? :(
11:32 < shoghicp> I do not compile PHP there, I use the ones provided
11:32 < shoghicp> I only compile specific extensions
11:32 < MrARM> I generally don't use php
11:33 < MrARM> shoghicp is there a PocketMine plugin repo? 
11:33 < shoghicp> forums.pocketmine.net/plugins/
11:33 < shoghicp> you have an API for it too
11:33 < MrARM> API! :D
11:33 < shoghicp> http://forums.pocketmine.net/api.php?action=getResources
11:33 < shoghicp> and
11:33 < shoghicp> http://forums.pocketmine.net/api.php?action=getResource&value=1
11:34 < shoghicp> the getResource provides extra info about a plugin
11:35 < MrARM> Does the first one send all plugins? 
11:35 < shoghicp> yes
11:36 < MrARM> It's a bad api design to don't do paging
11:37 < shoghicp> it was a xenforo resource >.<
11:37 < shoghicp> I'll modify later, I already had to fix them a few times
11:37 < shoghicp> it*
11:38 < MrARM> shoghicp anyway can it be other? : "state":"visible"
11:38 < MrARM> It's also a bad api design
11:38 < shoghicp> other are hidden
11:38 < shoghicp> it is not my API ;)
11:39 < MrARM> Stuff that are hidden should be hidded from the whole world
11:39 < shoghicp> they are not shown there
11:39 < MrARM> And if it doesn't print hidden entries it's a bad design again, because it adds a never used field
11:40 < shoghicp> http://forums.pocketmine.net/api.php?action=getResource&value=370
11:40 < shoghicp> well, it does
11:40 < shoghicp> not that I wanted that :S
11:40 < shoghicp> let's see...
11:44 < MrARM> shoghicp but that isn't visible in getResources
11:45 < MrARM> Anyway the API
11:45 < shoghicp> done
11:45 < MrARM> will help
11:46 < MrARM> I am gonna do a plugin manager (;
11:46 < shoghicp> MrARM: http://forums.pocketmine.net/plugins/sheep.249/
11:47 < shoghicp> https://github.com/KnownUnown/sheep
11:47 < MrARM> yes, but a GUI one
11:47 < shoghicp> :D
11:48 < shoghicp> Do a good job and you'll get it on a tab on the Linux & Mac Installer popup
11:49 < MrARM> :D
11:49 < MrARM> Next update will come with a file manager