02:05 < ffmdr> and spout doesn't even touch ListElement?
02:05 < ffmdr> https://github.com/Vanilla/Vanilla/blob/master/src/main/java/org/spout/vanilla/protocol/codec/entity/EntityPropertiesCodec.java
02:06 < ffmdr> so the list element is long long double byte...so is spout codec wrong?
02:06 < ffmdr> I guess if they don't read the list the stream if out of sync right?
02:07 < umby24> https://github.com/umby24/Minebot/blob/master/Packets/entProps.cs
02:07 < umby24> I don't exactly do anythign with the data, but it works for actually getting it
02:08 < ffmdr> thanks, it looks like spout shit network stack is wrong again
02:08 < umby24> lolk, np.
02:31 < ffmdr> ok so it looks like that whole listelement was added in 1.6.2
02:40 < umby24> mhm
02:40 < ffmdr> mhm it wasn't here in 1.6.1
03:21 <+AndrewPH> omg the antispam question doesn't work
03:23 <+AndrewPH> oh it's dwarfs not dwarves
14:55 < Foorack> Hello?
14:55 <+pdelvo> hi
14:56 < Foorack> Hi pdelvo.. How many "active" peoples are here? or is it only you and me?
14:56 <+dav1d> 96 people
14:58 < Foorack> and all 96 people are here right now? I mean that they will answer or are they AFK?
14:58 < redstonehelper> they will all answer you
14:58 < redstonehelper> you are very important to us.
14:58 <+dav1d> people say there are now dumb questions, but that's one of these. If you have a question just ask it
14:59 < Foorack> ok :) but that wasent what i mean.. I was just checking if everyone was AFK, but its seem that everyone is here so.. :)
14:59 < redstonehelper> dav1d, let's join other channels and see if the people there are afk
14:59 < redstonehelper> now I'm being mean.
14:59 <+dav1d> redstonehelper: #idlerpg!
14:59 <+dav1d> Foorack: ofc they are
15:00 <+dav1d> people have other things to do and check here and there irc
15:00 < Foorack> ok, sorry.. ;P
15:00 <+pdelvo> why no afk -> ban? :o
15:00 <+dav1d> no worries that is pretty common ...
15:01 < Foorack> but anyway, is there someone here that know how the server is creating the authentication part
15:01 < Foorack> ?
15:01 <+dav1d> yes
15:01 <+dav1d> but what is your question
15:02 < Foorack> im currently trying to create a minecraft server from scratch to learn more java-server.. things.. 
15:02 < Foorack> but now I need to send a 0xFD packet
15:03 < Foorack> But I dont know what I should send in the fields: Server id, Public key and Verify token
15:05 < Foorack> any ideas? how would I create the server ID? and what is public key and verify token for something?
15:06 < Foorack> the verify token seems to be 4 random bytes.. but I still dont know what the public key and ID is and how I will create/generate them..
15:06 <+Fador> server ID and verify token are just random strings you generate I believe..
15:06 <+dav1d> you saw http://wiki.vg/Protocol_Encryption right?
15:06 < Foorack> Yes, Looking at it= yes...... Understanding it: Kinda (no)
15:06 < Foorack> oh, sorry.. i see now:
15:06 < Foorack> The server ID string is a randomly-generated string of characters with a maximum length of 20 code points
15:07 < Foorack> ok, Now i understand what both verify token is and id is..
15:07 < Foorack> But the public key?
15:07 < Foorack> is that random generated too?
15:08 <+dav1d> no
15:08 <+dav1d> you generate a private key/public key pair and send the public to the client
15:08 < Foorack> so 2 keys? one public and one private?
15:09 <+dav1d> Foorack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(algorithm)
15:09 <+dav1d> there are libraries generating these pairs
15:10 <+dav1d> dunno what you'd use for Java though
15:12 < Foorack> ok, that wikipedia article help a little but i found this in the source code
15:12 < Foorack> KeyPairGenerator localKeyPairGenerator = KeyPairGenerator.getInstance("RSA");
15:12 < Foorack> localKeyPairGenerator.initialize(1024);
15:12 < Foorack> return localKeyPairGenerator.generateKeyPair();
15:13 < Foorack> is that how minecraft generates the X key.. if so is that generating public, private or both?
15:13 <+dav1d> well it says "KeyPair"
15:14 < Foorack> and that is?  (im not used to encyption in java)
15:14 < Foorack> I also found this that seems to generate the PUBLIC KEy:
15:14 < Foorack> X509EncodedKeySpec localX509EncodedKeySpec = new X509EncodedKeySpec(paramArrayOfByte);
15:14 < Foorack> KeyFactory localKeyFactory = KeyFactory.getInstance("RSA");
15:14 < Foorack> return localKeyFactory.generatePublic(localX509EncodedKeySpec);
15:14 < Foorack> No. idea what it means :S
15:15 <+dav1d> google it, or copy it
15:15 <+dav1d> I am not familiar with this Java crap
15:15 < Foorack> ok, thanks for help
15:15 <+dav1d> but the names look like what you'd need
15:15 <+dav1d> so if you don't want to understand it, simply copy it
15:15 < Foorack> brb for some min
15:16 < Foorack> ok will "copy" it later ;P
15:16 <+dav1d> Foorack: I think there is also a generatePrivate
15:16 <+dav1d> (according to google)
15:16 <+dav1d> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/security/KeyFactory.html
15:16 <+dav1d> but the factory itself is probably enough
15:44 < Foorack> back.. And i found a solution:
15:44 < Foorack> .
15:44 < Foorack> KeyPairGenerator kpg = KeyPairGenerator.getInstance("RSA");
15:44 < Foorack> kpg.initialize(1024);
15:44 < Foorack> KeyPair kp = kpg.genKeyPair();
15:44 < Foorack> Key publicKey = kp.getPublic();
15:44 < Foorack> Key privateKey = kp.getPrivate();
15:46 < Foorack> .
15:46 < redstonehelper> if you're gonna paste more than one or two lines of code, use something like pastebin please
15:47 < Foorack> So thanks for all help!
15:47 < Foorack> ok, thanks for tip redstonehelper
15:47 < Foorack> ;)
15:47 <+dav1d> Good luck with your project
15:49 < Foorack> thanks, david. have to go. cya all! =D
17:04 < TkTech> Pfft, IRC virgins.
17:04 < Calinou> no u
20:21 <+AndrewPH> md_5: wow it turns out ur actually better than ensirius, who kneww???!
20:23 <+dav1d> why would someone delte these comments -.-
20:24 <+dav1d> I wish github would track comments with git, too :P
20:26 <+ammar2> AndrewPH: the past continous term is rekking
20:26 <+ammar2> not rekting
20:43 <+AndrewPH> rekt -> rektin
20:50 < TkTech> There seems to be so much context missing here.
20:53 <+ammar2> AndrewPH: rekt is the past tense
20:53 <+ammar2> I rekt you. He rekt me
20:53 <+ammar2> rek is the verb itself
20:54 <+AndrewPH> TkTech: some guy claimed his bad code was better than bungee
23:59 < Foorack> hey again
--- Day changed ven. août 09 2013
00:00 < Foorack> hallo?
00:00 < Foorack> hello*
00:02 <+dav1d> hi, just ask your question :P
00:07 < Foorack> Hi, im still working on the server.. I think i got the encrypt/decrypt part
00:08 < Foorack> but when im send a KeyRequestPacket with server id it says:
00:08 < Foorack> Java.io.IOExcpetion: Received string length longer than maximum allowed (184 > 20)
00:09 < Foorack> but I have tripple checked.. my serverID IS 20 character long
00:09 <+sadimusi> how are you sending strings?
00:09 < Foorack> using a DataOutputStream and out.writeChars()
00:10 <+sadimusi> and it's prefixed with the length?
00:11 < Foorack> can i write the code, here? its 3 lines
00:12 < Foorack> out.writeByte(Protocol.PACKET_ENCRYPT_KEY_REQUEST);  //Protocol.Packet_encrypt__ is the byte for the packet
00:12 < Foorack> out.writeShort(serverID.length() + publicKey.getEncoded().length + 4);
00:12 < Foorack> out.writeChars(serverID);
00:12 <+sadimusi> o.O
00:12 < Foorack> ?
00:12 <+sadimusi> it should jsut be out.writeShort(serverID.length())
00:12 < Foorack> also, im curiois about the 
00:12 < Foorack> sorry
00:12 <+dav1d> why do you add all that stuff to the serverID.length?
00:12 <+sadimusi> the other lengths come afterwards
00:12 < Foorack> pressed enter
00:13 < Foorack> I have to send public key and token too
00:13 <+sadimusi> packets are never prefixed with a length, just some fields are
00:13 < Foorack> but im curiois about the + 4 thing...
00:13 < Foorack> I think it is because im using length identifyer for both arrays
00:13 <+sadimusi> where did you get that from?
00:14 < Foorack> 1 sec.. using pastebin
00:15 < Foorack> http://pastebin.com/SyhLY55x
00:15 < Foorack> thats is supposed to send EncryptKeyRequest packet
00:15 <+sadimusi> out.writeShort(serverID.length()) should fix it
00:15 <+sadimusi> but I really wouldn't define packets like this
00:16 < Foorack> should i remove the publicKey length and the +4 thing?
00:16 <+sadimusi> yes
00:17 < Foorack> I thugth it was <packetId> <sizeForWHOLEpayload> <payload>... but im guess i was wrong then
00:17 <+sadimusi> you were
00:17 <+sadimusi> the packet length is never sent
00:18 < Foorack> so the same for my EncryptKeyRESPONSE packet? pastebin it now...
00:18 < Foorack> http://pastebin.com/XrnG2zYt
00:18 < Foorack> should I remove the first writeShort or what?
00:19 <+sadimusi> yes
00:20 <+sadimusi> also, instead of the loops just do out.write(token)
00:21 < Foorack> So a good result would be: http://pastebin.com/101fWhXt   ?
00:22 <+sadimusi> yes
00:22 <+sadimusi> I still wouldn't define the whole protocol like this
00:22 <+sadimusi> + though
00:22 < Foorack> why not?
00:23 <+sadimusi> because it gets big, confusing and hard to maintain
00:23 <+sadimusi> plus you have to define every packet twice (read & write)
00:24 <+sadimusi> I still haven't completed my mc4p update, but the protocol definition looks something like this: https://gist.github.com/sadimusi/6025899
00:24 < Foorack> so what do you reccomend? should i do as notch did in his server, define each packet as each class/file
00:24 < Foorack> ?
00:25 <+sadimusi> in java I would probably make an enum with a constructor that takes an id plus a variable number of fields
00:26 <+sadimusi> could look something like this in the end:
00:26 <+sadimusi> enum Packet {
00:26 <+sadimusi>   CHAT(0x03, StringField("message"))
00:26 <+sadimusi> }
00:26 <+sadimusi> obviously with more packets and field types
00:27 < Foorack> hmm.. good idea, thanks :)
00:28 <+sadimusi> you can see in the gist that I added some special field types for more complex packets
00:34 < Foorack> sorry, cant see.. I dont understand python
00:34 < Foorack> :(
00:34 <+sadimusi> it's not really about python
00:34 <+sadimusi> I just added a List and Conditional type for some of the more complex packets
00:35 <+sadimusi> plus of course an item stack and a metadata type
00:54 < Foorack> ok.. Now i got the encryptedKeyRequest thing done.. but now when my server asking session.minecraft.net it says: NO
00:55 < Foorack> thats it, just 2 characters.. NO 
00:55 < Foorack> no idea why.
00:55 <+sadimusi> what are you sending it exactly?
00:55 < Foorack> sending to the client or mojang servers
00:55 <+sadimusi> mojang
00:55 < Foorack> always forgetting the questionmark...
00:56 < Foorack> "http://session.minecraft.net/game/checkserver.jsp?user=" + username + "&serverId=" + serverID
00:56 <+sadimusi> the serverID is the one you sent to the client earlier?
00:56 < Foorack> yes
00:57 <+sadimusi> yeah, that's not how it works anymore
00:57 <+sadimusi> http://wiki.vg/Protocol_Encryption#Authentication
00:57 <+sadimusi> you have to create a hash from the id, the shared secret and your public key and use that as the server ud
00:57 <+sadimusi> *id
00:58 < Foorack> ok, thanks :)
00:59 <+sadimusi> I think minecraft just uses (new BigInteger(hash)).toString(16)
01:00 <+sadimusi> that's where the odd hexadecimal strings come from
01:06 < Foorack> would this has work? if I use the string thats comes from the function as 'hash' in the attempt to verify at mojang?
01:06 < Foorack> sorry for bad english.. VERY tired :P
01:07 < Foorack> not drunk, but very tired.. but thats another topic..
01:07 < Foorack> http://pastebin.com/f5AcsAkA
01:09 <+sadimusi> no, that won't work
01:10 < Foorack> why?
01:10 <+sadimusi> look at the examples on the wiki
01:10 < Foorack> yes, Im already doing that
01:11 < Foorack> but Im sure I have made many mistakes
01:11 <+sadimusi> the length is not constant for one
01:11 <+sadimusi> leading zeros are removed
01:12 <+sadimusi> and hashes with the first bit set are treated as negative numbers
01:13 <+sadimusi> like I said, just use (new BigInteger(crypt.digest())).toString(16)
01:14 < Foorack> return new BigInteger(crypt.digest()).toString(16); ??
01:14 < Foorack> thanks
01:16 < Foorack> thanks * 1000 sadimusi :),, its working now
01:17 <+dav1d> ^ that is python
01:20 < Foorack> Anyone knows what means with Server enables AES/CFB8 stream encryption?
01:21 < Foorack> Should wrap the inputstream and outputstream to another reader/writer or should I encrypt everything I send?
01:22 <+sadimusi> in java I'd just use bc's CipherOutputStream
01:23 <+sadimusi> this might help https://github.com/SimpleServer/SimpleServer/blob/master/src/simpleserver/stream/Encryption.java#L128-L150
01:23 <+sadimusi> as does the rest of the file
01:28 < Foorack> so the outputstream should encrypt everything and the inputstream shoudl decrypt everything?.... In the example it seems that both in and out is only ecrypting and not decrypting..
01:28 <+sadimusi> the boolean flag in cipher.init specifies the direction
01:29 <+sadimusi> https://github.com/SimpleServer/SimpleServer/blob/master/src/simpleserver/stream/Encryption.java#L130
01:29 < Foorack> oh, yeah i see now .... It both that im tired and the secret key was named sharedKey..
01:29 < Foorack> thanks for help :)
01:30 <+sadimusi> it's a shared secret, so both terms are correct
01:30 <+sadimusi> (shared might even be correct-er)
01:41 < Foorack> I imported bouncycastle and now I have over 8000 errors..
01:41 < Foorack> its seems to be missing org.bouncycastle.asn1 package
01:51 < Foorack> nevermind
01:51 < Foorack> thanks for all help, have to go now, cya
04:06 < Seegee> m
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16:52 < Foorack> Hey
16:54 < Foorack> hello?
16:54 < Foorack> anyone that can help me with a problem?
16:57 < shoghicp> yes?
16:57 < shoghicp> Foorack: ping
16:58 < Foorack> Im currntly trying to create a mc  server from scratch
16:58 < Foorack> and follow the wiki step by step
16:58 < Foorack> http://wiki.vg/Protocol_FAQ
16:58 < Foorack> all the encrypt-decrypt part is done
16:58 < Foorack> at step 11
16:59 < Foorack> I send the 0xFC packet, enable AES stream and start wait for the 0xCD packet
16:59 < Foorack> but it never comes..
16:59 < Foorack> problem: client never send packet at step 14
16:59 < shoghicp> Tell me what you are receiving
17:00 < shoghicp> or
17:00 < shoghicp> what do you send
17:00 < Foorack> thats the problem, im not reciving anything.. I'm sending the 0xFC packet at step 11 and then the client not sending packet as in step 14
17:01 < Foorack> sending what?
17:01 < shoghicp> the bytes itself
17:01 < Foorack> should i tell what I send in packet 0xFC in step 11?
17:01 < shoghicp> yes, put somewhere the hexdump of that packet
17:02 < Foorack> hexdump? I can pastebin the code if thats what you mean..
17:03 < shoghicp> no, they bytes on the network
17:03 < shoghicp> use Wireshark or tcpdump
17:04 < Foorack> do I need to install any of those programs?
17:04 < Foorack> The only thing im sending is this: http://pastebin.com/pQfvDmuu
17:06 < shoghicp> let me see
17:07 < shoghicp> http://pastebin.com/sUTpEhBq
17:07 < shoghicp> REQUEST -> RESPONSE
17:07 < shoghicp> and you have to remove the byte arrays itself
17:07 < shoghicp> try that
17:09 < Foorack> should i remove the lines where I send   :      out.write(new byte[0]); ?
17:09 < shoghicp> yep
17:10 < shoghicp> the shorts tell the client that the byte array has length zero
17:10 < shoghicp> so no data is sent
17:10 < shoghicp> Foorack: also, check the packet id, REQUEST -> RESPONSE
17:11 < Foorack> yes, did that, (thanks * 1000), its working now
17:11 < shoghicp> :)
17:14 < Foorack> now its working,,
17:14 < Foorack> strange..
17:15 < Foorack> I send the login packet as in step 15 and the server responds with packet 52
17:15 < Foorack> whats that for packet?
17:15 <+dav1d> http://wiki.vg/Protocol
17:15 < Foorack> on the wiki it only says in hex and what hex is 52?
17:16 <+dav1d> you should learn the basics
17:16 <+dav1d> 52 in hex is 0x34
17:16 < Foorack> how did you know that? :O
17:16 <+dav1d> I cheated, but doing that by hand isn't hard
17:17 <+dav1d> python -c "print hex(52)"
17:17 < Foorack> mm. found that cheat in java too :) System.out.println(Integer.toHexString(0xFC));
17:17 < Foorack> (oh, replace 0xFC with 52)
17:18 <+dav1d> but these are the basics of CS
17:19 < Foorack> hmm... my server says after it sending 0x01 login packet it recives a 0x34 packet,... but that packet is well only suposed to be server->client?
17:19 <+dav1d> probably means you have a bug somewhere
17:19 <+dav1d> parse the protocol incorrectly
17:21 < Foorack> can it be that im reading from the stream incorrectly? that my server reads 0x34 but becuase its encrypted and I read it wrong maybe its a whole other number?
17:21 < Foorack> this is how I create the encrypt/decrypt streams... I guess thats wrong too ;P
17:22 < Foorack> http://pastebin.com/VrrkaaQ5
17:22 <+dav1d> or you just read the previous packet not completly
17:24 < Foorack> Am I doing it right or wrong?
17:25 <+dav1d> no idea
17:25 <+dav1d> Don't know how that works with java
17:25 <+dav1d> you can use a proxy like mc4p to verify your implementation
17:25 < Foorack> ok, have to go now, thanks for help..
--- Day changed sam. août 10 2013
01:47 < Foorack> Hey,
01:48 < Foorack> anyone here thats know anything about AES encrypt stream?
01:49 < Foorack> guess I have to come back later maybe.. cya
01:52 < dx> three minutes...
10:32 < Manyman> Hey, is there support for mark2 on this channel?
10:37 < dx> maybe
10:37 < dx> two of the devs of that project are here
10:37 < dx> but idling furiously
10:39 < dx> Manyman: ...just wondering, are you 'maruchan' on esper?
10:40 < dx> (if not, then this is an odd coincidence :D)
10:48 < Manyman> nope
10:48 < Manyman> Sorry, was afk
10:48 < dx> odd coincidence then!
10:48 < Manyman> heh
10:48 < dx> well i'm glad you're not, that person didn't even know what to do with the instructions in the INSTALL.md file
10:49 < Manyman> lol, not I'm getting an error with the irc plugin
10:49 < Manyman> *not
10:49 < Manyman> *no
10:49 < Manyman> wth, I didn't press t
10:51 < dx> what's weird about this is that i almost completely forgot that mark2 existed, and today i've heard about it twice
10:51 < Manyman> It's pretty damm cool
10:51 < Manyman> if not a little buggy :3
10:52 < dx> anyway, i barely know how it works but if you got a traceback i might be able to figure it out
10:53 < Manyman> lemme grab the log
10:57 < Manyman> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rprETU4G
11:12 < dx> Manyman: uh... what
11:12 < dx> Manyman: that's an error about a missing object, the error is in line 29
11:13 < dx> Manyman: the corresponding line i can find in the source code is line 79, here https://github.com/mcdevs/mark2/blob/master/mk2/plugins/monitor.py#L79
11:13 < Manyman> oh, I should of said, we've been having trouble with monitor as well
11:13 < dx> it's like you literally deleted the whole Check class
11:13 < Manyman> It wouldn't detect that the server was online
11:13 < Manyman> and was restarting every 10 mins :3
11:13 < dx> wat
11:14 < Manyman> The other admin disabled it
11:14 < dx> ...
11:14 < dx> he deleted the whole class and expected it to work fine after that?
11:14 < Manyman> oh shit
11:15 < Manyman> he deleted it?
11:15 < dx> 06:11 < dx> Manyman: that's an error about a missing object, the error is in line 29
11:15 < dx> 06:11 < dx> Manyman: the corresponding line i can find in the source code is line 79, here https://github.com/mcdevs/mark2/blob/master/mk2/plugins/monitor.py#L79
11:15 < dx> i'm not sure if you see how the line number differs by 50
11:15 < Manyman> cocks, I'll try and reload it
11:16 < dx> this doesn't really make much sense
11:16 < dx> so before assuming stupidity, let me confirm, you did get it from https://github.com/mcdevs/mark2/ right?
11:17 < dx> not a different fork or branch or whatever?
11:17 < Manyman> I didn't install it :3
11:17 < Manyman> and I don't know where he installed it :3
11:17 < Manyman> It's not in /usr/
11:17 < dx> /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mk2
11:18 < dx> the error says it
11:18 < Manyman> oh cheers
11:18 < Manyman> hmm, could it being installed incorrectly be a problem?
11:19 < dx> that location is probably not an issue
11:20 < dx> ...the fact that the person who installed it seems to do completely random things that don't make sense, now *that* is an issue.
11:20 < Manyman> heh
11:21 < Manyman> Where is the check class meant to be located?
11:22 < dx> https://github.com/mcdevs/mark2/blob/master/mk2/plugins/monitor.py#L5-L52
11:22 < Manyman> Cheers
11:23 < Manyman> Yep, totally gone
11:23 < dx> could you pastebin that file?
11:23 < Manyman> sure
11:23 < dx> it doesn't really matter but now i'm wondering how he managed to shift it exactly 50 lines up
11:24 < Manyman> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=34v1uKr7
11:25 < dx> ...lol it was more trivial than what i was thinking
11:25 < Manyman> I'll comment it out instead
11:25 < dx> he just removed two lines of whitespace along with the class. okay.
11:25 < dx> commenting it out won't change anything
11:25 < Manyman> yeah, I just want to keep it there for now
11:26 < dx> leaving it commented is still as stupid as removing it
11:26 < Manyman> cause I'll forget :/
11:26 < Manyman> alrighty haha
11:26 < Manyman> Should I just put it back?
11:26 < dx> you should make a new, clean installation, and don't let the other guy touch it
11:27 < dx> and if you have issues with that clean installation, please consult your doct- errr i mean, ask someone who actually knows python
11:28 < Manyman> Thanks so much
11:28 < Manyman> shit bad yo
11:29 < Manyman> hmm
11:29 < dx> i don't really know if he modified anything else, but if he doesn't mind doing this, other stuff might be modified, and there's no way we can offer help over a installation that was changed like that
11:29 < Manyman> I wonder if he installed the requirements
11:30 < Manyman> true
11:31 < dx> (i'd like to say "warranty void if messed with" but the license explicitly states that there wasn't any kind of warranty since the beginning :D)
11:31 < Manyman> heh
11:32 < Manyman> I'd prefer to get him to reinstall it, since it's his box
11:32 < Manyman> and I'm just meant to help maintain the server
11:33 < dx> sure, if you can just tell him to not touch the source code again, and you can trust him not to do it, go ahead
11:33 < Manyman> haha
--- Day changed dim. août 11 2013
01:15 <+Prf_Jakob> Bah stupid lightning.
01:16 <+Prf_Jakob> Taking out me internets
23:01 < ellisvlad> Hey Everyone :D
23:02 < ellisvlad> Having trouble with NBT data
23:05 < ellisvlad> I'm not sure where to start...
23:06 < dexter0> with an existing library I'd recommend
23:06 < ellisvlad> Can you point me in the right direction please, I'm using C++, but will probably be able to rewrite libraries in any other language
23:08 < dexter0> https://github.com/search?q=nbt&ref=cmdform
23:09 < ellisvlad> Thanks, I do understand the NBT format, although, have trouble making my NBT data gzip compressed
23:11 < dexter0> are you working on a map viewer/editor of some sort?
23:12 < ellisvlad> Minecraft Server, C++
23:14 < dexter0> ok, some NBT libs may have compression support.  There are probably other libraries for working directly with the map format.  And for all things Minecraft server, https://github.com/SirCmpwn/Craft.Net is a good reference implementation (though its c#)
--- Day changed lun. août 12 2013
02:12 <+sadimusi> md_5: heard of this dude? http://pastie.org/8195076
02:13 < dx> fixed version: By the way, md_5, I know you're reading this, Bungee looks like it was coded by a 15 year old.
02:16 <+AndrewPH> fixed fixed version: By thi wey, md_5, I knuw yua'ri riedong thos, Bangii luuks loki ot wes cudid by e 15 yier uld.
02:18 < dexter0> where was that posted?
02:19 < Drainedsoul> the issue with C++ NBT libs I've seen is that they're too object oriented
02:20 <+sadimusi> http://twitter.com/markhed1
02:22 <+sadimusi> the guy used up all the inodes on my server because of PHP's stupid disk based session storage
02:22 < dx> >This morning, a SWAT team broke down my front door and confiscated all of my equipment
02:22 < dx> confirmed for a fucking joke
02:22 < dx> joke of a person, i mean
02:22 < Drainedsoul> the solution: Don't use PHP sessions
02:23 <+sadimusi> the band-aid solution: ramdisk for session storage
02:23 < dx> that's the "let's rely on the kernel OOM killer" solution
02:25 <+sadimusi> it should have a fixed size, but I should probably check that sometime
02:25 < dx> lol
02:25 < dx> yeah they usually do, but i think it defaults to half the physical ram or something
02:26 <+sadimusi> I set it to 300mb, that should be enough
02:26 < dx> okay, band-aid approved then
02:26 <+sadimusi> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
02:26 <+sadimusi> tmpfs           300M   90M  211M  30% /var/lib/php5
02:26 <+sadimusi> looks fine
02:27 < dx> "Do NOT unset the whole $_SESSION with unset($_SESSION) as this will disable the registering of session variables through the $_SESSION superglobal"
02:27 < dx> thanks php docs
02:27 <+sadimusi> the fun part of cleaning up after the attack was that `rm /var/lib/php5/*` did exactly nothing
02:28 < dx> it kept the fds open after unlinking?
02:29 < dx> nah actually that should hit ulimit first
02:29 <+sadimusi> I have no idea what it did, no command that had something to do with this directory ever completed
02:29 <+sadimusi> there were 900k files in there...
02:30 < dx> how many php open processes?
02:30 <+sadimusi> none, I shut down everything
02:30 < dx> fun
02:31 <+sadimusi> and php's garbage collector didn't work either of course
02:31 <+sadimusi> which, as a side note, doesn't work at all by default on some ubuntu versions
02:32 <+sadimusi> or at least uses excessive amounts of cpu power
02:33 < Drainedsoul> I'm pretty sure it's a known fact that PHP's garbage collector is garbage, and that it mostly relies on the fact that php is supposed to be short-lived
02:33 < Drainedsoul> could be wrong
02:34 <+sadimusi> I'm talking about the session garbage collector
02:34 <+sadimusi> it's a simple cronjob
02:34 <+sadimusi> http://d.pr/n/VH1N
02:34 < Drainedsoul> ah yeah
02:34 < Drainedsoul> this just sounds like don't use PHP sessions to me
02:35 < dx> most people who use php do it because they don't have a choice
02:35 <+sadimusi> it was even better a few versions ago, you could define the probability at which the garbage collector would engage whenever a php script is run
02:35 < Drainedsoul> wut
02:35 < dx> (or that's what i'd like to believe)
02:35 < Drainedsoul> as long as you have a database you can implement your own session
02:35 <+sadimusi> for me this is definitely the case
02:35 < dx> in this case i'm assuming sadimusi didn't write the php scripts
02:36 <+sadimusi> I do have the choice of rewriting everything, but that's definitely not happening
02:36 < Drainedsoul> alternately you could just refactor it instead of rewriting it, and redirect assignments to/reads from $_SESSION to a database-/cookie-based provider
02:37 <+sadimusi> there are some modules to store the session data with memcache, I might look into that sometime
02:37 < dx> i don't think php allows overloading array reads/writes :D
02:37 < Drainedsoul> it absolutely does
02:37 < Drainedsoul> implements arrayaccess
02:37 < dx> okay
08:14 <+md_5> dx hm?
08:14 <+md_5> thats lilypad he was talking about
08:14 <+md_5> sadimusi yeah it blew up hilariously in his face
08:15 < dx> md_5: you didn't see what i did there :(
--- Day changed jeu. août 15 2013
07:42 < TkTech> Anyone want a Mirrors Edge key for Steam? Have one extra.
08:42 < Cr0s> hi
08:42 < Cr0s> how to disable MC's client and server protocol encryption?
08:42 < Cr0s> I writing a proxy server and get stuck in encryption
08:43 < Cr0s> wot to play MITM attack
08:43 < Cr0s> won't*
17:06 < TkTech> Prf_Jakob: poke?
17:08 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: yes
17:49 < SimSonic> Hello all, can anybody here help with file approvement on dev.bukkit? two days waiting. Uploaded 5 versions =\
18:09 <+dav1d> SimSonic: hi, no, I don't think so, better join esper.net#bukkit
18:10 < SimSonic> Thanks )
19:52 < dx> huh, for some reason i failed to join this channel three days ago and didn't realize i wasn't in here
19:54 < TkTech> dx: Was that when it was +irm?
19:55 < dx> now my logs have a huge hole in them :(. if anyone is bored enough to provide me logs since my pingout, i'd appreciate it (i sure wish the public logs the topic mentions were actually public)
19:55 < dx> TkTech: probably just +r
19:57 < dx> i have extremely cheap autoidentify scripts ("send identify, wait two seconds, join channels") that sometimes fail if there's lag
20:00 <+clonejo> Anyone visiting Gamescom?
20:01 <+clonejo> ^ dav1d, pdelvo
20:02 <+dav1d> clonejo: no
20:02 <+dav1d> clonejo: where is it?
20:02 <+clonejo> Cologne
20:02 <+dav1d> oh köln
20:02 <+dav1d> na
20:03 <+clonejo> It's only one hour away from me, so I couldn't miss the opportunity
20:05 <+dav1d> if I you told me that ~2 month ago, I would probably be there  :D
20:05 <+dav1d> visiting relatives in Düsseldorf/Köln + gamescom :P
23:22 <+md_5> waits of 5 days arent uncommon on bukkitdev lol
--- Day changed ven. août 16 2013
03:38 < shoghicp> Just pushed PocketBurger (Burger-alike tool for MCPE)
03:38 < shoghicp> https://github.com/shoghicp/PocketBurger
03:38 < shoghicp> It is compatible with Hamburglar and BurgerVitrine
03:38 < shoghicp> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3030630/0.7.3.html
03:39 < shoghicp> It is pretty basic
03:39 < shoghicp> but works
08:58 <+md_5> whoa
08:58 <+md_5> shoghicp nice
08:58 <+md_5> really nice
08:59 <+md_5> how do you get the asm dump?
10:25 < TobiX> clonejo: I visited in recent years, but since it overlaps with German summer holidays for a few years, it has become too full for my taste...
10:36 <+pdelvo> @clonejo not this jear :(
11:19 <+clonejo> okay, np
11:57 < shoghicp> md_5: I use the IDA asm output
11:58 < shoghicp> I didn't tested it with other things
12:01 < shoghicp> Adding more things right now ;)
14:22 < shoghicp> Added additional methods + biomes to PocketBurger :D
15:19 <+sadimusi> shoghicp: very nice
15:21 < shoghicp> I'm adding blocks now
16:08 < shoghicp> Burger is the tool used to compare releases, right?
16:08 < shoghicp> Hamburglar only shows it
16:08 < shoghicp> right?
16:58 <+ammar2> shoghicp: burger gets info for one version, hamburgler compares different versions. BurgerVitrine generates fancy html pages
17:00 < shoghicp> I mean
17:00 < shoghicp> python Burger/munch.py -c minecraft.1.5.jar minecraft.1.6.jar
17:00 < shoghicp> Burger gets the info for each one
17:00 < shoghicp> right?
17:07 < shoghicp> Ok, right now it has packets + instructions, version, blocks, biomes, sounds
17:46 < shoghicp> MCPE 0.6.1 <=> 0.7.3 comparison: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3030630/0.6.1_0.7.3.html
17:47 < shoghicp> there are some bugs with block detection
--- Day changed sam. août 17 2013
16:55 < ashka> hello there, I wanted to know if the packet that used to set the server texture pack was removed silently in 1.6, I can't find it
16:59 < zml> ashka: It's always been using Packet250, so you wouldn't see a separate packet class. I'm not sure how resource packs may have changed that though
16:59 < ashka> well, with bukkit 1.6 at least, it's sending the packet, but the vanilla client isn't reacting
16:59 < ashka> that's maybe just a bug, still have got to try with the vanilla server
16:59 < shoghicp> ashka: MC|Tpack
17:00 < shoghicp> http://wiki.vg/Plugin_channel
17:05 < ashka> still seems buggy, the client won't prompt me for a pack
17:15 < ashka> oh ok, just read it was disabled temporarily
21:29 <+Prf_Jakob> good thing I didn't press enter when I entered my password
21:30 < TkTech> Prf_Jakob: Q?
21:30 <+Prf_Jakob> or I would have entered it here...
21:30 <+AndrewPH> is that bad?
21:31 <+Prf_Jakob> yes
21:31 <+Prf_Jakob> basically focus error..
--- Day changed dim. août 18 2013
01:16 < shoghicp> Is there any way in BurgerVitrine to set the name of a packet? (via JSON)
01:16 < shoghicp> I'm adding a comment to each packet with the name
01:16 < shoghicp> I tried looking into the code
01:16 < shoghicp> nothing
01:17 < shoghicp> sadimusi: ping ^
01:29 < shoghicp> sadimusi: Pull request, https://github.com/sadimusi/BurgerVitrine/pull/3
01:31 < shoghicp> With the patch: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3030630/0.7.3.html#packets
01:31 < dx> nice!
01:32 < dx> i like the tiny patch
01:33 < shoghicp> The feature was there ;)
08:28 <+SpaceManiac> my Linux machine has finally bitten the dust
08:29 <+AndrewPH> yay
09:04 <+md_5> thats ad
09:04 <+md_5> thats sad
23:26 < shoghicp> sadimusi: thanks!
23:47 < fragmer> TkTech, my wiki.vg login no longer works
23:47 < fragmer> > There is no user by the name "F".
23:48 < fragmer> (clearly there is though: http://wiki.vg/Special:Contributions/F )
23:48 < dexter0> fragmer: the wiki moved to a new host
23:48 < dexter0> a while ago
23:48 < dexter0> create a new account w/ the same name
23:48 < fragmer> That's odd.
23:49 < fragmer> Now my contribution list has been blanked
23:49 < fragmer> What kind of a host move is this...
23:50 < dexter0> TK is now hosting the wiki, instead of kevin
23:50 < dx> he used a mediawiki xml export that keeps the page history
23:50 < dx> but no user accounts or anything
23:50 < dx> because apparently it wasn't possible to contact kev to do the host move
--- Day changed lun. août 19 2013
00:02 < fragmer> I see
00:04 <+dav1d> the light
13:58 <+clonejo> is coming
13:59 <+pdelvo> I dont know if I want to know that :o
14:00 <+clonejo> pdelvo: ouch, I actually wanted to append to what david said
14:00 <+pdelvo> :D
14:00 <+clonejo> otherwise I would have used /me
14:01 <+dav1d> that was a long time ago :P
14:02 <+clonejo> so?
14:02 <+clonejo> IRC can fluently go from realtime to long delays.
14:06 < SinZ> Kinda not really
14:42 <+clonejo> Don't you have some backlog?
14:45 < SinZ> I know the previous messages, except it was too long of a gap
20:33 < MaximoMinial> Hi, I have a question related to the minecraft protocol. When you send a packet, it has various fields, and some fields have a variable length. How are you able to know how long will a string be for e.g. ? 
20:35 < shoghicp> it is prefixed by a short
20:35 < shoghicp> that is the length
20:36 < shoghicp> check the Data types page
20:36 < shoghicp> http://wiki.vg/Data_Types
20:36 < MaximoMinial> thanks !
20:37 <+clonejo> The data types pake should be more obvious
20:37 <+clonejo> s/pake/page/
20:38 < Morrolan> Isn't it linked from the top of the protocol page?
20:38 <+clonejo> it's linked from the very bottom
20:38 < MaximoMinial> Yeah I didn't checked bottom
20:38 < Morrolan> Ah, the bottom it is.
20:38 < MaximoMinial> Quite normal to see links there in a wiki
20:39 <+clonejo> most wiki pages aren't that long
20:40 <+clonejo> that string length prefix question comes up every few weeks
20:40 <+clonejo> not that it bothers me much, actually
20:40 <+clonejo> maybe we should keep the links how they are to get the people to irc :D
20:41 < MaximoMinial> A quick recap at the top of the Protocol page or a direct link would help, but yay irc is nice though
20:41 < shoghicp> Those links were at the top of the page before
20:41 < shoghicp> oh
20:41 < shoghicp> no
20:41 < shoghicp> they weren't links
21:20 <+dav1d> iirc it was a table
23:44 < dx> http://wiki.vg/index.php?title=Protocol&diff=4243&oldid=4228
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03:41 < TkTech> It was just a stub on the top of the page previously.
03:41 < TkTech> That page is getting to the point where it needs a custom template.
03:41 < shoghicp> yep
03:48 < dx> damn +r
03:49 < shoghicp> and another release of PocketMine-MP
03:49 < dx> damn
09:11 < MaximoMinial> Hi, I'm messing around in java to try to log in my private server, but after sending an 0x02 packet with all the fields correctly set (I generate exactly the same hex sequence that i captured from sniffed packets from the regular clients) I'm going to paste you the code
09:11 < MaximoMinial> I forgot the mention the interesting part, my server does not respond and the program exit after 30s which I believe is the default timeout
09:12 < MaximoMinial> http://pastebin.com/FfkcGqmD
09:13 < MaximoMinial> The program is stuck at the in.read() instruction, waiting for something, then returning -1, and exiting
09:14 < MaximoMinial> *return -1 and exits
09:15 < MaximoMinial> The first time I tried, the packet didn't contain all the field required and I got a 0xFF from the server (which is normal), and from that point, it was impossible to get a server response on new connection
09:17 < MaximoMinial> Even after completing all the fields and getting the same hex sequence has sniffed
09:24 < MaximoMinial> I'm using 1.5.2 btw
12:19 <+md_5> anyone got C/C++ examples of openssl+minecraft
12:19 < barneygale> MaximoMinial: did you figure it out?
12:22 < dx> md_5: http://ix.io/7qB
12:26 < MaximoMinial> Actually, the server responds after 30s with the double fuck packet (0xFF ;)) and closes the connection. It seems that it didn't get my 0x02 packet at all
12:27 < MaximoMinial> The 0xFF says that I "Took too long to log in", as written in my server log
12:28 < MaximoMinial> I'll paste the actual version of my code
12:38 < MaximoMinial> The hex sequence generated for the 0x02 is actually different from what I sniffed, I look further in that direction, I think that's where the problem lies
12:41 < MaximoMinial> Ok i got it, the number I was putting in front of strings was the number of bytes used by the string and not the number of code points, which is in this case the number of bytes divided by 2
12:48 < barneygale> aye, that's what I was going to tell you then I accidentally went AFK
12:48 < barneygale> sorry :P
12:49 < MaximoMinial> np barneygale 
13:57 < Drainedsoul> md_5: I have pretty extensive examples if you still need
13:58 < Drainedsoul> all C++11
15:46 < MaximoMinial> Is it possible that my server Id has a length of 1 ?
15:46 < MaximoMinial> Is it because it's in offline mode ?
15:47 < MaximoMinial> (no authentication)
15:47 <+sadimusi> it might just be "-" in offline mode
15:47 < MaximoMinial> ok thanks
15:47 <+sadimusi> at least that's what it used to be before encryption was added
15:48 < shoghicp> sadimusi: One question, is there Tile Entity support in Burger / BurgerVitrine?
15:49 <+sadimusi> no, but adding a new topping to Hamburglar / BurgerVitrine is pretty easy
15:49 < MaximoMinial> It is still used in 1.5.2, my server ID hex code is "00 2D", which is the number "45", which is the character "-"
15:50 < shoghicp> Ok, keep an eye for pull requests ;)
15:52 < Drainedsoul> looking over the code dx provided, my examples are also a bit more object oriented/well abstracted
--- Day changed mer. août 21 2013
07:57 <+md_5> Drainedsoul , dx
07:57 < dx> hi
07:57 <+md_5> I'm planning on implementing bungeecord encryption with openssl+jni
07:58 < dx> huh why
07:58 <+md_5> because the java one is slow as f***
07:58 <+md_5> and is bottlenecking
07:58 < dx> pbunny would be proud of you
07:58 <+md_5> talking 10-20% of bungee cpu usage
07:58 <+md_5> problem being I have 0 JNI experience
07:58 <+md_5> and 0.01 C experience
07:58 < dx> heh
07:59 < dx> 0 JNI experience, 0.5 C experience here
07:59 <+md_5> I just need to do the bulk cipher part
08:00 <+md_5> ie 19:31 <+Fador> dx: https://github.com/fador/mineserver/blob/master/include/user.h#L109 <- cipher init
08:00 <+md_5> 19:32 <+Fador> dx: https://github.com/fador/mineserver/blob/master/src/sockets.cpp#L94 <- encryption and #L167 decryption
08:00 <+md_5> the rest I can do in java
08:00 <+md_5> but the stream I want in C
08:00 < dx> are you sure this will improve it significantly, though?
08:00 <+md_5> dx with aes-ni
08:00 <+md_5> hell yeah
08:01 <+md_5> native code + cpu specific instructions
08:01 <+md_5> compared to java
08:01 < dx> oh right
08:01 <+md_5> I think so
08:02 < dx> (btw i heard people say that JITs can be faster because of the ability to optimize with more cpu specific code, but in practice i doubt that applies often)
08:02 <+md_5> look at the java aes code :p
08:02 < dx> no thanks
08:03 <+AndrewPH> md_5: let me guess, "welcome to die"
08:03 < dx> md_5: do JNI calls have significant overhead?
08:03 < dx> or is it nearly none?
08:03 <+md_5> not much at all
08:03 <+md_5> http://grepcode.com/file/repository.grepcode.com/java/root/jdk/openjdk/6-b14/com/sun/crypto/provider/AESCrypt.java#AESCrypt
08:04 <+md_5> also my current engine involves memcpy
08:04 <+md_5> direct buffer -> array -> direct buffer
08:04 <+md_5> whereas with jni I can do direct -> direct
08:05 <+md_5> anyway if someone here knows JNI and please poke me up, would love your help
08:05 < dx> THAT PINGOUT WAS VERY SUSPICIOUSLY TIMED
08:05 <+md_5> understood that code yet dx?
08:05 <+md_5> its very basic...
08:07 < dx> yeah it seems to be
08:08 < dx> but maybe the JIT can do magic!
08:51 < Drainedsoul> you want it in C or C++?
08:52 <+md_5> Drainedsoul not sure if JNI supports c++
08:52 <+md_5> if it does then I would prefer that
08:54 < Drainedsoul> I wouldn't imagine JNI supports C++ because C++ doesn't have a consistent ABI
08:55 <+md_5> I belive it can
08:56 <+md_5> just implement the headers in C or something
08:56 <+md_5> http://thebreakfastpost.com/2012/01/26/wrapping-a-c-library-with-jni-part-2/
09:01 < Drainedsoul> oh cool
09:01 < Drainedsoul> https://github.com/RobertLeahy/MCPP/blob/master/src/aes_128_cfb_8.cpp here's a C++ wrapper for OpenSSL AES128CFB8
09:01 < Drainedsoul> https://github.com/RobertLeahy/MCPP/blob/master/src/rsa_key.cpp and here's a C++ wrapper for RSA key generation/manipulation
09:01 < dx> why do you have to wrap it..
09:01 < dx> it can be just written in C and it's less pain for everyone
09:01 < Drainedsoul> ?
09:01 < dx> we're not talking about developing a big server that you might need stuff like templates or object orientation
09:02 < dx> we're talking about calling a few openssl functions. there's no good reason to use c++
09:02 < Drainedsoul> md_5 was the one who said he preferred C++, and I have a lot of Minecraft-related C++11 code
09:02 <+md_5> meh
09:02 <+md_5> I dont care
09:02 < dx> well, i'm questioning that too!
09:02 < Drainedsoul> and the project those two CPP files are from is a server
09:02 < dx> yes
09:02 < Drainedsoul> I guess I don't understand what you're getting at o.0
09:03 <+md_5> be back soon
09:38 <+md_5> public native void init(byte[] cipherKey, boolean forEncryption);
09:38 <+md_5> public native int cipher(long inMemoryAddress, long length, long outMemoryAddress); // Return number of bytes ciphered
09:39 <+md_5> Drainedsoul thats basically what i need
09:39 <+md_5> cipherKey I guess could be converted to a pointer containing the raw key
09:39 <+md_5> public native void init(long cipherKey, int keyLength, boolean forEncryption);
09:39 <+md_5> public native int cipher(long inMemoryAddress, int inLength, long outMemoryAddress); // Return number of bytes ciphered
09:40 <+md_5> * public native void init(long cipherKeyAddress, int keyLength, boolean forEncryption);
09:42 <+md_5> 	// CFB8 always outputs the
09:42 <+md_5> / same number of bytes as it
09:42 <+md_5> / takes as input
09:42 <+md_5> oh heh
09:42 <+md_5> never knew that
09:43 <+md_5> ----
09:43 <+md_5> public native void init(long keyAddress, int keyLength, boolean forEncryption);
09:43 <+md_5> public native void cipher(long inAddress, int inLength, long outAddress);
09:46 <+AndrewPH> beautiful
10:40 < SimSonic> Hello all. What Jenkins plugin allows to mark some builds as Recommended? With gold star at right. Promoted Builds or another one?
12:31 < barneygale> Dinnerbone: sorry to bother. Could someone be assigned to this? https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-10984
12:32 < barneygale> Dan Frisk was mistakenly assigned when it was first filed and removed himself recently
15:13 < dav1d> poor pdelvo
--- Day changed jeu. août 22 2013
11:11 < dav1d> Brottweiler: ping
13:56 < tehme> yo sup boyz!
13:56 < tehme> im back!
13:56 < dav1d> yay he is back!
13:59 < tehme> what did i miss here?
14:01 < tehme> dat wiki
14:01 < tehme> dwarfs != dvarves
14:01 < tehme> :(
14:02 < tehme> dwarves*
14:05 < tehme> oh yeah
14:05 < tehme> fixing wiki is fun
15:34 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19306834 <-- thats one hell of a party.
15:35 < TkTech> Ah ha ha, the strippers.
15:36 <+Prf_Jakob> Yupp a cool billion in strippers
15:37 < Brottweiler> pong
15:37 < Brottweiler> dav1d: plong
15:47 < dav1d> Brottweiler: znc working again?
15:47 < Brottweiler> yes!
15:48 < dav1d> Brottweiler: got my broadcast?^^
15:48 < Brottweiler> i dont think so?
15:49 < dav1d> he ok
15:49 < dav1d> Brottweiler: now?
15:49 < Brottweiler> yes
22:21 < tehme> damn
22:21 < tehme> why did you restrict free enter to channel?
22:22 <+sadimusi> because some bots flooded the channel with bad jokes
22:23 < tehme> heh
22:23 < tehme> i have a little question about wiki
22:23 <+sadimusi> Prf_Jakob: is the +r really meant to be permanent?
22:23 <+sadimusi> ask away
22:23 < tehme> some fields in protocol page are bold. does it mean anything?
22:25 < tehme> http://wiki.vg/Protocol#0x08example
22:25 < tehme> http://wiki.vg/Protocol#0x08 example
22:25 < dav1d> tehme: I think these values changed in the last protocol version
22:25 < dav1d> it used to be something else
22:26 < tehme> ok, thank you
22:27 < dav1d> tehme: yep, it was of type "short" in 1.5.2
22:32 < tehme> does anyone here have experience with Lua?
22:34 <+Prf_Jakob> sadimusi: done
22:34 < dav1d> Prf_Jakob: wb :P
22:34 < dav1d> ahhhh
22:34 < dav1d> pdelvo: wb
22:51 <+ammar2> dav1d: urf, I bolded them in the pre-release page so it was clearer what changed.
23:57 < tehme> fock yeah! i made my new code generator!
23:57 < Drainedsoul> your whut
23:57 < Drainedsoul> fuck
23:57 < Drainedsoul> okay it's not censored
23:57 < Drainedsoul> was wondering why you said "fock" instead
23:57 < tehme> code generator. wiki source -> c++ classes
23:58 < tehme> because i like to say FOCK
23:58 < dav1d> FORK
23:58 < tehme> I WANT TO FORK YOU
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00:01 < tehme> ping
00:12 < tehme> geberated code is little ugly, but is doesnt matter, i think
00:12 < tehme> generated*
00:12 < tehme> it*
00:12 < tehme> omg
00:13 <+sadimusi> how do you generate stuff like 0x1d?
00:13 <+sadimusi> *0xd1
00:13 <+sadimusi> well, iirc 0x1d isn't trivial either
00:14 < tehme> d1 is "special" in my terms, so i must make it manually
00:15 < tehme> 1d is special too for now, but soon i will teach generator to recognize arrays
00:17 < tehme> we can develop some wiki structure to describe special packets, but manual creation is much easier, i think
00:18 <+sadimusi> I'm hoping to skip the wiki and use burger output directly
00:18 <+sadimusi> at least for simple arrays it might be possible
00:19 < tehme> what about obfuscation?
00:20 <+sadimusi> good point
00:21 <+sadimusi> it could just use the field names from the last version and set the rest to "unknown"
00:21 <+sadimusi> so all you have to do is fill in the new ones before the next version is released
00:23 < tehme> but in burger field names are not set al all
00:23 < tehme> at all*
00:23 < tehme> a b c everywhere
00:23 < tehme> or am i blind?
00:24 < tehme> how to see packets of version but not comparation?
00:24 < dav1d> set one to None
00:25 < tehme> anyway a b c
00:25 <+sadimusi> you're right, but if your generator can use your protocol definitions that won't matter
00:26 <+sadimusi> just rebuild the new packets, copy over the rest and then try to match the fields of the modified ones
02:25 < dx> woo i got my identify script right this time
08:56 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2161 2 files : Initial implementation of BitMap3D, to be used for /Fill3D
08:56 <+fragmer> oh hey Notifico's back.
08:57 <+fragmer> I just made a terrible data structure
08:57 <+fragmer> https://gist.github.com/fragmer/6316217#file-bitmap3d-cs-L168
09:08 < SinZ> I like the name of your goto
10:17 < dav1d> fragmer: do { } while(bitIndex > 31)
10:17 < dav1d> should work?
10:17 <+fragmer> Probably. I am rewriting the whole thing though, to get rid of some branching and division/modulo
10:18 <+fragmer> Won't need a goto then
11:51 < Not-001> [fCraft] fragmer * r2162 2 files : Fixed and optimized BitMap3D enumerator.
11:52 <+fragmer> Much cleaner and ~3.5x faster. https://gist.github.com/fragmer/6317220
12:29 < SinZ> fragmer: what is this for?
12:33 <+fragmer> SinZ, 3D flood fill in Minecraft
12:33 < SinZ> classic or modern? <3
12:33 <+fragmer> Classic of course
12:33 <+fragmer> Just tested it up to 100M blocks, works like a charm
12:38 < tehme> sup
14:55 < Foorack> Hey. anyone that can help me with sending the chunk too the client? Should I use 0x33 OR 0x38 and how would i use them? I dont know what the array should contain..
14:56 < Drainedsoul> http://wiki.vg/SMP_Map_Format
14:59 < Foorack> so i should send 0x38 when the players join and 0x33 when the player moves into a new area?
15:05 < Drainedsoul> that's what the vanilla server does afaik
15:08 < Yoshi2> Foorack: you can try sending lots of 0x33s if you have issues with sending 0x38, it should work as well
15:08 < Drainedsoul> sending lots of 0x33s seems like a less tightly-coupled method to me
17:17 < tehme> anyone here?
17:18 < tehme> i am now thinking about how can my code generator know what field is length of array
17:18 < tehme> usually it is previous field
17:18 < tehme> but there are exclusions
17:51 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde pushed 1 commit to master [+6/-6/±3] http://git.io/feHGcA
17:51 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde 6e2e4ae - updated glad
17:59 < tehme> fuuuuuuuck
18:00 < tehme> i fixed arrays recognition
18:00 < tehme> and now code generator thinks 0xD1 is a regular packet
18:01 < dav1d> add a blacklist
18:02 < tehme> yep, i thought about this
18:23 < Drainedsoul> what's this about 0xD1?
18:38 < tehme> http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Teams_.280xD1.29
18:39 < tehme> variable fields
19:09 < Drainedsoul> variable fields are so annoying, not just because they're a pain in the ass, but because they're just a hallmark of poor design
20:01 < tehme> this is mojang
20:10 < Drainedsoul> I know, I wasn't implying that Mojang doesn't have a history of awful design choices, was just pointing out that variable fields are a symptom of that disease.
23:45 < TkTech> Prf_Jakob: Yes.
23:46 < TkTech> Prf_Jakob: http://evevalkyrie.com/
23:47 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: looks cool
23:47 <+Prf_Jakob> can't wait to try it out
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01:38 < TkTech> WebKit's (new) interface almost seems sane, and easy.
01:38 < TkTech> Then the ever so subtle bugs start creeping in.
01:47 <+Prf_Jakob> heh
01:48 <+Prf_Jakob> is it to integrate into a app like awesomium?
01:56 < Not-002> [fCraft] fragmer * r2163 30 files : Moved all map generation code into a separate namespace (fCraft.MapGeneration).
02:00 < Not-002> [fCraft] fragmer * r2164 11 files : Added missing copyright notices/acknowledgments to MapGeneration source files.
02:01 < TkTech> Prf_Jakob: No, we use it for crawling.
02:03 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: ah okay
03:01 < Not-002> [fCraft] fragmer * r2165 6 files : Added /fill3d command! Fixed an offset error in BitMap3D's enumerator.
10:34 < conur> anyone not AFK right now that can help me figure something out real quick?
10:36 < Yoshi2> conur: what do you need?
10:37 < conur> Im having the weirdest experience.  I just started working on a server and I was testing it with the Ping command in 1.6.2.  For some reason, its first byte is perceived as -2, instead of 0xFE.
10:37 < conur> Oddly enough, if I try to login to the server itself, it sends the handshake 0x02 just fine.
10:39 < conur> Or is this normal?  I honestly havent ever dealt with hexa so Im not sure if thats supposed to happen. 
10:39 < Yoshi2> ah, you're most likely interpreting the 0xFE as a signed byte, and not a unsigned byte
10:39 < conur> I just realized I was probably doing something like that.  Thank you!
10:39 < conur> I know Java handles all that weirdly..
10:39 < conur> dont you have to do like & 0xFF at the end of it or something
10:40 < conur> Answered my own question!  Thanks for reminding me about that
10:40 < Yoshi2> you're welcome
10:40 < Yoshi2> yeah, from what I've heard, java doesn't support unsigned bytes internally
10:41 < conur> yeah unlike C++ and the like
14:03 < circ-user-no1VE> hello?
14:03 <+sadimusi> o/
14:04 < circ-user-no1VE> im making a networked game, and i was looking at the minecraft protocol, but i cant figure out whether to use TCP or UDP
14:04 < Calinou> MC uses TCP
14:04 < Calinou> I suggest using UDP, lol
14:04 < circ-user-no1VE> hmm
14:05 < circ-user-no1VE> i read that for real time games, you usually use udp
14:05 < circ-user-no1VE> but udp packets can be lost
14:05 < circ-user-no1VE> so, if a client connects to the server, entire parts of the login system can be lost
14:05 < circ-user-no1VE> and the client blocks up
14:05 <+sadimusi> either you use two streams or you have to build your own ack mechanic for a few selected packets
14:05 <+sadimusi> or you just use tcp of course
14:06 < circ-user-no1VE> i also thought of something like that, where players movement and entity data(enemy, anything that is real-time) via UDP, and downloading maps/data/inventories/spawning via tcp
14:07 < circ-user-no1VE> also, i read that when using udp, sometimes multiple packets basicly...are added together or somethign
14:07 < circ-user-no1VE> like, i send 2 packets, 1 arives, containing data of both... is this true?
14:07 < Yoshi2> not added together, but I've heard that packets can arrive twice
14:08 < MooshBeef> ow thats not that much of a problem then
14:08 < MooshBeef> thanks for the help :D
14:08 < MooshBeef> --leaving--
14:48 < tehme> yo sup
14:48 < tehme> imma angry as fuck
14:48 < tehme> i am starting to hate free software
14:48 < tehme> it always tries to install lots of shit like SOCIAL BROWSER ORBITUM to my pc
14:50 < tehme> and what i "like" most of all is that express-install option is an option for this fucking orbitum only
14:50 < tehme> fucking froadsters
14:52 < iBotPeaches> yep
14:53 < Drainedsoul> I get angry when I get other peoples' work for free as well
14:53 < Drainedsoul> ...wait
14:54 <+clonejo> I like how Oracle takes care of bringing the awesome Ask search to the people with every Java update
14:54 < tehme> i would not be angry if it just proposed this fucking chromium with changed icon and facebook in tabs
14:54 < tehme> but it hides it
14:55 <+clonejo> tehme: There are other Chromium forks, aren't there?
14:55 < tehme> i dint need any
14:55 < tehme> dont
14:56 < dav1d> chromium on windows? o.O
14:56 < tehme> i just want to install apps without constant waiting for them to cheat me and install  shit
14:57 < Drainedsoul> I find the apps that you pay for don't do that, since they don't have to game people to make money without charging their customers
14:57 < tehme> i dont know what is orbitum, but it definitely is a trash if it installs this way
14:57 < tehme> wait
14:57 < tehme> screenshot
14:59 < tehme> http://imgur.com/sipa0Ln
14:59 < tehme> first is express, second is advanced
14:59 < tehme> express is "recommended"
15:00 < tehme> noobs will have nice new browser
15:00 < tehme> isn't it too much?
15:00 <+clonejo> Where did you download that installer?
15:00 < tehme> offucial site
15:00 < tehme> official*
15:00 <+clonejo> url?
15:01 <+clonejo> http://www.cheatengine.org/downloads.php ?
15:01 < tehme> yes
15:01 <+clonejo> okay
15:02 < tehme> mb it gives installers with different shitload depending on ip
15:03 < tehme> looks like this orbitum is russian
15:03 < Yoshi2> it's really sad to see that most of the time the "advanced" option is just for changing the install location of the program and preventing adware from being installed
15:03 < tehme> NEW GENERATION BROWSER WITH BUILT-IN VK>COM CHAT!!!!
15:03 < tehme> PROGRESS!!!
15:04 < tehme> saddest thing about this is noobs really trust these words
15:05 < tehme> well ok, cheat engine developers want to eat too
15:06 < tehme> but i hope i will never do this if i make something good and free
15:12 < dav1d> windows, what do you expect
15:24 < tehme> i have linux too
15:24 < tehme> but NOGAMES
15:26 < dav1d> *"no dumb AAA games"
15:26 < dav1d> ftfy
15:28 < Yoshi2> on linux there are so many cool indie games
15:30 < tehme> problem is i want my league of legends
15:31 < tehme> i really like linux more than windows, but it does not have some things i need
15:31 < tehme> mah old ubuntu without unity
15:32 < tehme> do you like ubuntu?
15:35 < dav1d> no
15:38 < tehme> why?
15:40 < Drainedsoul> all linuxes are just a shell through SSH
15:40 < Drainedsoul> let's be real
15:40 < dav1d> tehme: personal opinion
15:41 < dav1d> I rather have everything in my own hands, also rolling release ftw
15:41 < Drainedsoul> personal opinions can still have a reason attached to them
15:41 < Drainedsoul> ah there we go
15:46 < Drainedsoul> templates are definitely my favourite part of C++
15:46 < tehme> yep, rolling release
15:46 < tehme> things that break in ubuntu every half a year, can break tororrow in your arch
15:46 < tehme> templates are great:)
15:47 < Drainedsoul> does anyone know off-hand what algorithm vanilla MC uses to turn seed strings into integers?
15:48 < tehme> look at minecraft wiki
15:49 < Drainedsoul> nothin'
15:49 < tehme> The Java String.hashCode() function is used to generate a number seed if a word/phrase is used.
15:49 < tehme> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/lang/String.html#hashCode%28%29
15:50 < Drainedsoul> jesus christ it uses exponents wtf
15:50 < Drainedsoul> do not want
15:50 < tehme> kekekek
15:50 < Drainedsoul> I'll stick with djb2.
16:02 < dav1d> tehme: only that it never broke for me
16:22 <+clonejo> Most of the time, I break my Arch by myself
16:41 < tehme> hey
16:42 < tehme> i want to fix wiki
16:42 < dav1d> tehme: where is the problem?
16:42 < tehme> replace "array of xxx" with "xxx array"
16:42 < tehme> is it ok?
16:42 < tehme> problem is someone may not want this:)
16:42 < dav1d> ok?
16:43 < tehme> ok
16:43 < tehme> i will do this
16:43 < Yoshi2> tehme: can you give some particular examples?
16:43 < tehme> http://wiki.vg/Protocol#0x1D
16:44 < Yoshi2> hm, alright
16:45 < tehme> oh damn
16:46 < tehme> fuk it
16:46 < tehme> this fix can kill sence of phrases
21:16 < edk> does simpson still lurk here?
23:45 < MestreLion> any kind soul can help me with directory layout for a mod git repository?
23:45 < MestreLion> I'm not sure where the root should be, or what files to include
23:46 < dx> try #mcp-modding or #minecraftforge or #bukkitdev
23:47 < dx> all in esper
23:50 < MestreLion> thanks dx
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00:23 < AnotherOne|2> qweqwe
00:24 < AnotherOne|2> lol
00:33 < tehme> hey people
00:33 < tehme> i need a help with one algorithm
00:34 < tehme> for example, i am printing some list {a = "123", b = "456", etc = "etc"}
00:34 < tehme> if i do it in a loop, how to prevent comma to be printed after last element?
00:35 < tehme> just with if, or there is any better solutions?
00:35 < tehme> are*
00:35 < dav1d> yes, use a join function
00:37 < tehme> thank you
00:37 < tehme> in lua there is table.concat
00:37 < tehme> interesting, how does it work
00:42 <+md_5> well
00:42 <+md_5> in java I have a .toCSV function
00:42 <+md_5> that basically
00:42 <+md_5> StringBuilder out = new StringBuilder();
00:42 <+md_5> for (String s : list ) out.append(s).append(", ");
00:42 <+md_5> return s.substring(0,s.length()-2)
00:43 <+md_5> * return out.substring(0,out.length()-2)
00:44 < tehme> yep
00:44 < tehme> ihave this too
00:45 < tehme> i dont know what is cheaper
00:45 < tehme> if or sub
00:45 < tehme> but anyway, my arrays are too small to worry