22:35 <+SirCmpwn> since you need to release the mouse to edit config files
22:35 <+SirCmpwn> (on most systems)
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22:39 < dav1d> :D
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22:42 <+SirCmpwn> dav1d: I'm gonna write a BraLa launcher for fun
22:42 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: cool :)
22:43 <+SirCmpwn> dav1d: add --session so I can just give you a session ID
22:43 < dav1d> but it'll probably obsolette once there is an ui :)
22:43 < dav1d> mh
22:43 <+SirCmpwn> oh, you're going to bundle it all up in one?
22:43 < dav1d> yes
22:43 <+SirCmpwn> ah, then nevermind
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22:44 < dav1d> hehe kk
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02:33 <+SpaceManiac> stupid full hard drive
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05:43 <+SirCmpwn> SpaceManiac: how big is your HDD
05:45 < SpaceManiac> 120G.. it wasn't really full, just some weird transient thing
05:45 < SpaceManiac> 100% usage; reboot, 31% usage
05:46 <+SirCmpwn> 120G?
05:46 <+SirCmpwn> hard drives are measured in terabytes these days, SpaceManiac
05:46 < SpaceManiac> it's an old machine
05:54 < nopresnik> .status
05:55 < nopresnik> .stats
05:55 < nopresnik> oh lol
05:55 < nopresnik> wrong channel xD
06:35 <+md_5> soo 
06:35 <+md_5> 0.12tb
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07:10 < dx> "measured in terabytes" but the biggest commercially available hdd is just 4tb
07:11 < dx> so that would only measure 1tb, 2tb, 3tb and 4tb disks without getting into 0.xx. really useful!
07:11 < dx> i guess i'm taking that a bit too seriously
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08:41 < SinZ> dx: well, noone will buy a hdd smaller than 1tb these days, but with SSDs, 120G is fine
08:48 < dx> SinZ: there's still a market for 500gb ones
08:49 < Yoshi2> as long as the price is right, I will gladly take a 500gb one
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09:02 <+AndrewPH> I have a 500GB one for all of my wii game backups
09:02 <+AndrewPH> every time a friend brings a game over, zschoop it's mine now
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09:25 < Yoshi2> that's what I used mine for as well some time ago, but then I really needed it to backup my PC's data, so I packed up the few games I liked to play the most, deleted the rest and now I only play them on Dolphin because looking at a blurred or pixelated screen is painful
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15:06 < dav1d> http://vp.dav1d.de/img/xsn :D
15:09 < dav1d> so blue!
15:35 < Thinkofdeath> I thought this would work for the json chat https://gist.github.com/thinkofdeath/26c0f191fe63d7dc6aa0
15:36 < Thinkofdeath> Everything comes out white
15:43 < dav1d> lol json
15:43 < dx> you should write §bthinkofdeath instead of just thinkofdeath
15:43 < dx> :3
15:44 < Thinkofdeath> I know
15:44 < dx> it was a joke
15:44 < Thinkofdeath> :)
15:45 < Thinkofdeath> I thought it should work but so far colours only work if set on the root of the json (without colour codes)
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15:47 < Thinkofdeath> I thought the nesting thing was one of the reasons of switching to json anyway
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15:53 < dav1d> gah
15:53 < dav1d> huuuuge if..elseif for rotating normals :(
15:55 < dx> lahwran: oh hey i didn't notice you were lurking here
16:08 < Speck> lahwran is basically everywhere.
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16:18 < Not-002> [netherrack] thinkofdeath pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-3/±18] http://git.io/uyzPUw
16:18 < Not-002> [netherrack] thinkofdeath f82303f - Moved log into soulsand
16:18 < Not-002> [netherrack] thinkofdeath 813a4fd - Switched to 1.6 json chat (Colours seem not to work yet)
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17:40 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde pushed 2 commits to master [+1/-0/±21] http://git.io/iW0Lwg
17:40 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde 15f603e - move geometry dependend code out of renderer.enter
17:40 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde b8ae295 - Implemented normals
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18:20 < dav1d> lol, the nether crashes brala :(
18:37 < dav1d> mh, this is strange, nether seems to send broken chunks
18:54 < dav1d> is there a blockid with 240?
18:58 < Thinkofdeath> dav1d: Nope
18:58 < dav1d> gah dammit why can I parse overworld chunks perfectly fine, but nether fails
18:58 < dav1d> since 1.5
18:59 < Thinkofdeath> Do you handle 0x38's sky light sent?
18:59 < Thinkofdeath> I don't think the nether sends skylight
18:59 < dav1d> Thinkofdeath: did anything change from 1.4 to 1.5 regarding that?
18:59 < dav1d> that could explain it
18:59 < Thinkofdeath> Can't remember
19:00 <+SirCmpwn> not sure when it changed, but they did add the ability for skylight to be optional
19:00 < dav1d> ah
19:00 < dav1d> there is a new flag
19:00 < dav1d> thanks, that's probably it
19:00 < dav1d> I bet it's still called "unused" in my protocol code
19:01 < dav1d> read!bool(s); // unknown
19:01 < dav1d> yep, kinda
19:03 < Thinkofdeath> Still trying to solve why this comes out incorrectly, https://gist.github.com/thinkofdeath/26c0f191fe63d7dc6aa0
19:03 < dav1d> lol I'll use a goto
19:04 < Thinkofdeath> Looking at how minecraft handles it didn't help
19:05 < Thinkofdeath> Although I found out why colour codes haven't been removed yet
19:05 < dav1d> *** Crashed with return code: 0 ***
19:05 < dav1d> Segfault!
19:05 < Thinkofdeath> It just converts the json version back to the old minecraft version currently
19:05 <+SirCmpwn> Thinkofdeath: did you make your own JSON implementation
19:06 < dav1d> but it shows for a short time the correct data
19:06 < Thinkofdeath> SirCmpwn: To create it? yeah
19:06 <+SirCmpwn> Thinkofdeath: why
19:06 < Thinkofdeath> It shows up fine in game just without colour
19:07 <+SirCmpwn> that's not what I asked
19:07 <+SirCmpwn> anyway, sniff with SMProxy and mimic what the vanilla server uses
19:07 < Thinkofdeath> The thing is colour works but only on the root of the json
19:10 < dav1d> does 0x33 send skylight?
19:11 < dav1d> that is strange, there doesn't seem to be a flag, but if I assume it has skylight it crashes
19:11 <+SirCmpwn> every time, yes
19:11 <+SirCmpwn> to the best of my knowledge, that is
19:11 < dav1d> but if I assume it has no skylight it works
19:11 < dav1d> maybe dimension specific?
19:11 <+SirCmpwn> maybe just guess based on which dimension you're in?
19:11 < dav1d> WOW fuck you mojang
19:11 < dav1d> how should I implement that -_-
19:11 <+SirCmpwn> I concur
19:12 < dav1d> I can't
19:12 <+SirCmpwn> my protocol implementation will be much sadder when I implement that
19:12 < dav1d> why should the networking code have any state
19:12 < dav1d> this is just stuipid
19:12 < dav1d> dinnerbro proof me wrong!
19:12 <+SirCmpwn> Mojang is pretty stupid a lot of the time, dav1d
19:12 < dav1d> you think it's ok if I ping dinnerbro?
19:13 <+SirCmpwn> yup
19:13 <+SirCmpwn> he won't change it, though
19:13 <+SirCmpwn> Mojang doesn't consider our opinions valuable these days
19:14 < dav1d> Dinnerbone: is 0x33 dependend on the current dimension?
19:14 <+SirCmpwn> badly phrased
19:14 <+SirCmpwn> Dinnerbone: does the inclusion of sky light in 0x33 packets depend on which dimension the client is in?
19:14 < dav1d> ha, yeah thanks :P
19:15 < dav1d> ok it seems it is
19:15 < dav1d> if I change it "has_skylight = false" it doesn't crash
19:16 <+SirCmpwn> Dinnerbone: if it is, please change it. Most of us design our networking code to be independent of the rest, and this would break that (very good) design. Please add a boolean to 0x33 that specifies the inclusion of sky light
19:17 <+SirCmpwn> this also makes SMProxy more intelligent than it should be
19:17 <+SirCmpwn> since I'd need to keep track of the client's dimension to proxy 0x33 properly
19:18 < dav1d> this is strange
19:18 < dav1d> keeping it false in the overworld seems to work
19:18 < dav1d> maybe just coincidence that it didn't crash...
19:19 <+SirCmpwn> you've broken something, then
19:19 <+SirCmpwn> I assure you that 0x33 has sky light in the overworld
19:19 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: mh?
19:19 <+SirCmpwn> oh, hey, try using the size of the decompressed data to determine if it has sky light
19:19 < dav1d> then it's probably only a coincidence that it didn't crash
19:19 <+SirCmpwn> it's probably because you just discard the sky light when you set it to false
19:20 < dav1d> yeah of course it didn't crash
19:20 < dav1d> it has more data then it consumes and I made everything else "safe"
19:20 < dav1d> biome_data is now "safe" returns OCEAN if it is some random value
19:21 <+SirCmpwn> I think using the length of the decomressed data is a tolerable solution
19:21 <+SirCmpwn> try that
19:21 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: I need to go through the primary_bitmask, then I can calculate the size
19:21 <+SirCmpwn> correct
19:22 < dav1d> maybe I should do a trial and error, if it is about to parse skylight and there isn't enough data for even one block of skylight data, stop
19:22 <+SirCmpwn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamming_weight
19:22 < dav1d> yeah isn't free though
19:22 <+SirCmpwn> it can be pretty cheap
19:23 < dav1d> well, makes no huge difference, it's threaded
19:23 <+SirCmpwn> 12 operations
19:23 < dav1d>             if(f == "sky_light" && !has_skylight) {
19:23 < dav1d>                 goto LBiome;
19:23 < dav1d>             }
19:23 < dav1d> yS
19:23 < dav1d> *xD
19:26 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: core.bitop has popcnt :)
19:36 < dav1d>         int pc = popcnt(ret.chunk.primary_bitmask);
19:36 < dav1d>         bool has_skylight = pc*4096+pc*2048*2 > 256;
19:36 < dav1d> seems to work
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19:46 <+SirCmpwn> there's nothing I wanted more than to spend my day building ffmpeg
19:48 < mbaxter> Me too!
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19:55 < Alphonse> Hey
19:56 <+SirCmpwn> actually wasn't that bad, it's well-documented and took something like 20 minutes
19:56 < Alphonse> I was wondering if anyone knew what had changed between 1.5.1 and 1.5.2 as regards to the protocol. I'm using https://github.com/shoghicp/Minecraft-PHP-Client-2/ and don't quite know how to update it.
19:56 <+SirCmpwn> Alphonse: http://b.wiki.vg/1.5pre...1.5.2
19:56 <+SirCmpwn> dammit shoghicp
19:57 < shoghicp> ??
19:57 < shoghicp> oh
19:57 < shoghicp> xD
19:57 < dav1d> shoghicp: they use php!
19:57 <+ammar2> shoghicp: stop slacking off!
19:57 < Alphonse> LOL :')
19:58 < shoghicp> Alphonse: I've problems regarding the scoreboard
19:58 < Alphonse> Do you have any intention of updating that?
19:58 < shoghicp> I tried everything except the thing that works :'(
19:58 < Alphonse> damn
19:58 < shoghicp> The client starts, loads everything... and blocks after 10 seconds or so
19:58 < Alphonse> Have looked through *every* cli client, yours is the only one that looks decent + isn't too damn hard to do anything.
19:59 < shoghicp> :D
19:59 < shoghicp> I think I opened an issue there long ago regarting this problem
20:00 < Alphonse> ah
20:00 < shoghicp> I'm currently solving an problem with the Minecraft PE server
20:00 < shoghicp> I'll into that again now
20:00 < shoghicp> oops
20:00 < shoghicp> after that ^
20:01 < Alphonse> Ah, okay.
20:02 < Alphonse> Any kinda ETA on that?
20:04 < shoghicp> not yet
20:04 < shoghicp> be around here, I'll ping you once I get something
20:05 < dav1d> oh lol
20:05 < dav1d> Alphonse | Have looked through *every* cli client, yours is the only one that looks decent + isn't too damn hard to do anything.
20:05 < dav1d> > php
20:06 < Alphonse> Hey
20:06 < Alphonse> It works
20:06 < Alphonse> it does what I need
20:06 < Alphonse> I can set it up, which says something about it's ease of use...
20:07 < dav1d> it's php
20:08 <+SirCmpwn> Alphonse: its use of PHP automatically pushes it to the bottom of the list of acceptable clients
20:09 <+SirCmpwn> Craft.Net also works great, dav1d's client works great, mineflayer works great
20:09 < dav1d> Well, my client isn't intended as library, but it would work
20:09 < dav1d> I'd probably chosen mineflayer
20:09 < Alphonse> I tried that, was a complete bitch to try and set up.
20:10 <+SirCmpwn> I'd suggest Craft.Net (biased) since it's well modularized and mature, with ongoing development
20:10 < Alphonse> *goes to go test*
20:11 < dav1d> well you need node.js for mineflayer..
20:11 < Alphonse> I know.
20:12 <+pdelvo> dav1d does brala have 1.5.2 support now?
20:12 <+SirCmpwn> he's using PHP on windows
20:12 < dav1d> pdelvo: yes!
20:12 <+pdelvo> yay!
20:12 < dav1d> pdelvo: for a loooong time now :P
20:12 < dav1d> a few days after your first tests :)
20:12 <+pdelvo> :D
20:12 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: with xampp xD
20:13 < Alphonse> wat
20:13 <+pdelvo> git status
20:13 < dav1d> pdelvo: you probably need to update the dmd compiler
20:13 <+pdelvo> oops :D
20:13 < dav1d> might work with dmd 2.062 though
20:14 < shoghicp> SirCmpwn: And on a Raspberry Pi ;)
20:14 < shoghicp> Everything is compiled manually
20:15 <+pdelvo> I think I have to update mine. does not compile
20:17 <+SirCmpwn> Alphonse: another Craft.Net benefit: it does as much as you want it to. It can just do networking, or it can do pretty much everything else Minecraft does
20:17 <+pdelvo> brala\gfx\terrain.d(442): Error: cannot implicitly convert expression (index) of
20:17 <+pdelvo>  type long to uint
20:17 <+pdelvo> std.exception.ErrnoException@std\process.d(372):  (No error)
20:17 < Alphonse> I'm attempting to install now, gon be good.
20:17 < Alphonse> Running it on a linux box, never liked mono.
20:17 < dav1d> pdelvo: wtf
20:18 <+SirCmpwn> I develop Craft.Net on Linux
20:18 <+SirCmpwn> works fine
20:18 < dav1d> pdelvo: nope, 32bit issue
20:18 <+SirCmpwn> hey, speaking of cool things you can do with C.N, do you guys remember that REPL thing I did?
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20:18 <+SirCmpwn> I had an idea the other day, and I loaded up Craft.Net.Client *into* the REPL, then spun up a bot and connected it to the server hosting the REPL
20:19 <+ammar2> so you had a bot running from a server connecting to itself
20:19 <+pdelvo> dav1d you use 32bit????
20:19 <+ammar2> SirCmpwn: go deeper
20:19 < dav1d> pdelvo: no you do
20:19 <+SirCmpwn> ammar2: yep
20:19 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde pushed 5 commits to master [+1/-0/±31] http://git.io/fq5zdA
20:19 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde 042c5e6 - Implemented normals
20:19 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde 898ee17 - cleanup fbo creation, set position datatype to GL_FLOAT
20:19 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde dd2613a - fixed MapChunk packets (nether)
20:19 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde 24a3580 - make a few classes final
20:19 < dav1d> pdelvo: git reset --hard HEAD~1; git pull
20:19 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde e9da4bd - fixed 32bit issue
20:20 < dav1d> pdelvo: dmd on windows makes 32bit executables
20:20 < dav1d> there is a way to use VS linker and make 64bit executables but I don't know how
20:21 < dav1d> the reset is important, I rebased ...
20:21 <+pdelvo> compiling...
20:21 < dav1d> also, don't forgot to update the submodules
20:21 <+SirCmpwn> dav1d: you broke the One Big Rule
20:21 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: I rebase all the time, I am used to no one using my projects
20:22 <+SirCmpwn> don't rebase after you've pushed, dav1d
20:22 <+pdelvo> what the hack. that compiler uses 1.3gb of ram
20:22 < dav1d> I am not used to anyone pulling :P
20:22 < dav1d> pdelvo: yeah, dmd ftw
20:22 <+SirCmpwn> not an excuse, dav1d, just don't rebase after you push
20:22 <+pdelvo> but only one thread -.-
20:22 < dav1d> pdelvo: doing quite some compile-time magic
20:23 < dav1d> so it has to fire up its interpreter which is sloow and loves memory
20:23 <+pdelvo> this is not a problem for me. I got 16gb, but for other people it might be
20:24 < dav1d> pdelvo: what was the max? 1.3gb?
20:24 <+pdelvo> jeah
20:24 <+pdelvo> there are some people out therewith only 2gb of ram.
20:24 < dav1d> that's ok
20:24 < dav1d> everyone who can't handle that, can't run brala
20:24 < dav1d> needs at least 1Gb vram
20:25 <+pdelvo> I got 3gb :D
20:25 < dav1d> well 700mb would be enough, but I've never seen a graphics card with 700mb
20:26 <+pdelvo> does it support service dns records?
20:27 < dav1d> pdelvo: for servers?
20:27 < dav1d> nope
20:27 <+pdelvo> okay
20:27 < dav1d> pdelvo: feel free to add brala.utils.dns
20:27 < dav1d> ;)
20:28 <+pdelvo> I dont know D and I think writing a udp client is not that easy for me
20:28 < dav1d> clonejo, clonejo1, pdelvo, what do you think of a qt dependency for brala?
20:28 < dav1d> pdelvo: you basically had to do it with berkley sockets
20:29 <+clonejo> dav1d: Using this QML stuff?
20:29 < dav1d> clonejo: ammar2 is playing with it
20:30 < dav1d> I am not sure if I want qt as dependency
20:31 < Alphonse> Right, installing craft.net failed spectacularly
20:31 < Alphonse> #badlinuxskills
20:31 < dav1d> got mono?
20:31 <+SirCmpwn> Alphonse: would you like some help?
20:31 < Alphonse> yes
20:32 <+SirCmpwn> Alphonse: what package manager?
20:32 < Alphonse> If possible, yeah.
20:32 < Alphonse> apt
20:32 <+SirCmpwn> sudo apt-get install mono-complete
20:32 < Alphonse> done
20:32 < Alphonse> I've installed mono and everything
20:32 <+SirCmpwn> git clone --recursive git://github.com/SirCmpwn/Craft.Net && cd Craft.Net
20:32 <+SirCmpwn> xbuild /p:Configuration=MONO
20:32 < zutto> oh you're doing C.N on mono?
20:32 < zutto> awesome
20:33 < Alphonse>  done, only 55 warnings :')
20:33 <+SirCmpwn> the client is Craft.Net.Client/bin/MONO/*.dll
20:33 <+SirCmpwn> probably
20:33 <+SirCmpwn> MONO might be a different folder name, don't recall
20:33 <+SirCmpwn> you can add these as references to another C# project to use C.N.C
20:33 < Alphonse> assembly .* doesn't have an enrty point, runtime version supported by app not available.
20:33 <+pdelvo> Brala is black
20:34 < Alphonse> mono Craft.Net.Client/bin/MONO/*.dll WARNING: The runtime version supported by this application is unavailable. Using default runtime: v2.0.50727 Assembly '/root/craftnet/Craft.Net/Craft.Net.Client/bin/MONO/BouncyCastle.Crypto.dll' doesn't have an entry point.
20:34 <+SirCmpwn> it's a library, not an executable
20:34 <+pdelvo> I dont see anything
20:34 < Alphonse> lol
20:34 < Alphonse> oh dear
20:34 < Alphonse> Sorry, I'm kinda new to all this.
20:34 <+SirCmpwn> which distribution?
20:34 < Alphonse> debian 7 x32
20:34 <+SirCmpwn> or rather, which repositories
20:34 <+SirCmpwn> ick, debian
20:34 <+SirCmpwn> well, maybe their MD is up to date
20:34 <+SirCmpwn> sudo apt-get install monodevelop
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20:34 < zutto> SirCmpwn: what distro are you running?
20:34 < zutto> arch?
20:35 <+SirCmpwn> zutto: I'm on mint atm
20:35 < zutto> ew :|
20:35 < zutto> opensuse & arch all teh wai
20:35 <+SirCmpwn> I was on arch a while back
20:35 <+SirCmpwn> turns out I don't really feel like spending an entire day setting up my system
20:35 < zutto> haha
20:35 < zutto> give a go to opensuse then
20:35 <+SirCmpwn> KDE < *
20:35 < barneygale> mint is nice
20:35 < zutto> DWM > *
20:35 < Alphonse> right, that's done
20:36 <+SirCmpwn> I like Cinnamon
20:36 <+SirCmpwn> Alphonse: monodevelop is a pretty nice C# IDE
20:36 <+SirCmpwn> Alphonse: open it up and create a new console project
20:36 <+SirCmpwn> also, what version is it?
20:36 < Alphonse> 3.0.3.2
20:36 <+SirCmpwn> good, 3.x is far better than 2.x
20:36 < Alphonse> See, this is where I start getting way outta my depth.
20:36 < Alphonse> I want something I can monitor chat on, and maybe, just maybe interpret it, basically.
20:37 <+SirCmpwn> if you know Java, you almost know C#
20:37 <+SirCmpwn> if you know C++, you're halfway to C#
20:37 < Alphonse> >know java
20:37 <+SirCmpwn> you have no right to criticize languages, you came in here asking about PHP
20:37 < Alphonse> :')
20:37 < Alphonse> I don't know java well in the slightest.
20:37 < zutto> Alphonse: also, remember to take a look at MSDN
20:38 <+SirCmpwn> well, C# is like most C-based languages in terms of basic syntax
20:38 < zutto> since you're going to be toying with c#, MSDN is great resource
20:38 <+SirCmpwn> I'll give you a simple chat program as an example
20:38 <+SirCmpwn> Alphonse: right click the project, add a reference to each of the DLL files in that output directory from earlier
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20:42 <+SirCmpwn> dammit, I just finished writing up a simple chat client
20:43 < Thinkofdeath> SirCmpwn: Put it on github anyway for an example for others
20:43 <+SirCmpwn> it's just a gist, I wrote it offhand and didn't test it
20:43 <+SirCmpwn> https://gist.github.com/SirCmpwn/a6faf60d041a26d5f511
20:44 < Thinkofdeath> SirCmpwn: Nice and simple
20:44 <+SirCmpwn> also, I do have a graphical client example on github
20:45 < Thinkofdeath> Link?
20:46 <+SirCmpwn> https://github.com/SirCmpwn/ExampleGraphicalClient
20:46 <+SirCmpwn> don't clone it yet, I'm about to update it to 1.5.2
20:47 <+SirCmpwn> "graphical" doesn't mean it renders terrain, fyi, it means it doesn't run in a terminal
20:47 < Thinkofdeath> Never used C# before, looks nice
20:48 < Thinkofdeath> I started work on a client a while ago, didn't get too far
20:48 <+SirCmpwn> I have a private repo on github
20:48 <+SirCmpwn> turns out I suck at opengl, though
20:48 < Thinkofdeath> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48264738/Screenshot_2013-06-11-09-13-46.png
20:48 < Thinkofdeath> Thats what it looked like (on Android)
20:48 <+SirCmpwn> that's a lot further than I got, wow
20:49 <+SirCmpwn> that looks further than dav1d even got
20:49 < Thinkofdeath> The thing was it was coded in Java
20:49 <+SirCmpwn> yuck
20:49 < dav1d> pfft
20:49 < Thinkofdeath> I coded it all on my phone as well (no hard keyboard)
20:49 <+SirCmpwn> dav1d: I didn't see any water, lava, transparent leaves in the latest BraLa
20:49 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: transparent leaves work, change the texture
20:49 < Thinkofdeath> Debugging was a pain
20:50 < dav1d> there is no water for a reason btw
20:50 < dav1d> soon there will be shadows :)
20:50 <+SirCmpwn> I was thinking about doing an android client
20:50 < Thinkofdeath> The textures are animated as well
20:50 <+SirCmpwn> a proper client, that connects to 1.5.2 servers
20:51 <+SirCmpwn> since there's no reason PE couldn't be that
20:51 < Thinkofdeath> The GC was the reason I stopped (Frooze the client every couple of seconds)
20:51 <+SirCmpwn> sounds like you're bad at memory management
20:52 < Thinkofdeath> I am :)
20:52 <+SirCmpwn> after the initial setup, shouldn't require many new objects per frame
20:52 <+SirCmpwn> if any
20:52 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: ...
20:52 < dav1d> a stop the world gc
20:52 <+SirCmpwn> wat
20:52 < dav1d> it kicks in randomly and stops the world
20:52 < Thinkofdeath> I was an infinite world so new chunks were being built
20:52 <+SirCmpwn> at least in C#, it kicks in something like every 500 kb allocated
20:53 <+SirCmpwn> the server only sends you so many chunks, Thinkofdeath
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20:53 < Thinkofdeath> The freezing only happens when you move
20:53 <+SirCmpwn> I see
20:54 < Thinkofdeath> But the networking was never done anyway just the rendering
20:54 < Thinkofdeath> I didn't have a server to test with
20:54 <+SirCmpwn> I crashed mono with my graphical client thing
20:55 <+SirCmpwn> :(
20:55 <+SirCmpwn> I didn't just get an exception or anything, I actually crashed the mono runtime
20:55 < Thinkofdeath> lol
20:55 < zutto> mono still has bugs left, especially with debuggers attached
20:55 <+SirCmpwn> I have never before crashed the actual runtime
20:55 <+SirCmpwn> and I didn't have a debugger attached
20:56 < zutto> i have :|
20:56 < zutto> i was fighting with project that required very heavy multithreading.. nasty things happen
20:56 <+SirCmpwn> oh, cross thread x server issues
20:57 <+SirCmpwn> MessageBox.Show is thread-safe on windows, but not on linux
20:58 <+SirCmpwn> this is surprisingly sophisticated
20:58 <+SirCmpwn> parses your vanilla server list and everything
21:00 <+SirCmpwn> updated to 1.5.2, fixed on mono
21:00 <+SirCmpwn> Thinkofdeath: if you wanted to try it, go ahead
21:00 < Thinkofdeath> Ok one sec
21:01 < Thinkofdeath> Just getting mono + monodevelop
21:01 <+SirCmpwn> git clone --recursive git://github.com/SirCmpwn/ExampleGraphicalClient.git && cd ExampleGraphicalClient && xbuild /p:Configuration=MONO && cd ExampleGraphicalClient/bin/Release && mono ExampleGraphicalClient.exe
21:02 <+SirCmpwn> once you have everything installed, that is
21:09 < Thinkofdeath> SirCmpwn: https://gist.github.com/thinkofdeath/996d82a57df5a7761f6f
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21:26 < Thinkofdeath> SirCmpwn: Ok fixed it and got it built, now to test
21:29 < Thinkofdeath> SirCmpwn: And it works!
21:30 < Thinkofdeath> Well direct connect does
21:30 < Thinkofdeath> Using the server list I get this: https://gist.github.com/thinkofdeath/e87fe192325c1301f5a8
21:31 <+pdelvo> I'll fix it
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21:36 <+pdelvo> SirCmpwn you got a pull request
21:36 <+pdelvo> https://github.com/SirCmpwn/Craft.Net/pull/169
21:46 <+SirCmpwn> pdelvo: noted
21:46 <+SirCmpwn> pdelvo: merged
21:46 < Not-002> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/Hersqw
21:46 < Not-002> [Craft.Net] pdelvo 4cb24c7 - Does now support IpV6!
21:46 < Not-002> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn a1dd676 - Merge pull request #169 from pdelvo/ipv6 Does now support IpV6!
21:46 <+pdelvo> yay!
21:46 <+SirCmpwn> Thinkofdeath: git submodule foreach git pull origin master
21:49 < Thinkofdeath> SirCmpwn: Works :)
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23:08 < Not-002> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn pushed 3 commits to refactoring [+0/-0/±2] http://git.io/fKjXNQ
23:08 < Not-002> [Craft.Net] pdelvo 4cb24c7 - Does now support IpV6!
23:08 < Not-002> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn a1dd676 - Merge pull request #169 from pdelvo/ipv6 Does now support IpV6!
23:08 < Not-002> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn 7aa8fdf - Merged master into refactoring
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00:13 <+md_5> how can your code not support ipv6 o.O
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00:20 < mbaxter> md_5: explicitly coding using ipv4?
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00:42 <+pdelvo> when you use sockets you have to specify the Address Family. it was set to InterNetwork which is ipv4. I changed it to use the protocol family the ip address is in
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01:24 <+clonejo> pdelvo: Doesn't one often have dual stack, i.e. both IPv4 and IPv6?
01:25 <+clonejo> oh wait, is this about a client?
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02:42 < Drainedsoul> how does one send the literal section sign (U+00A7) in chat?
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02:44 <+md_5> Drainedsoul do you know how to send strings?
02:45 < Drainedsoul> UCS-2 BE encode them and prepend them with a signed 16-bit integer giving their length in Unicode code points
02:46 <+md_5> mmm
02:46 <+md_5> and sending section is the same
02:46 <+md_5> §
02:46 <+md_5> just make a string with that
02:46 < Drainedsoul> but the client gives U+00A7 special meaning
02:46 <+md_5> oh
02:46 <+md_5> you want to send it without meaning
02:47 < Drainedsoul> yeah, as a literal
02:47 <+md_5> not possible
02:47 < Drainedsoul> thanks
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06:01 < dx> hmmm the network my minecraft server is in is having some packet loss issues, almost completely consistently 25% for every test i do
06:02 < dx> it seems to make the game unplayable
06:02 < dx> *cough* this wouldn't happen if we had an UDP protocol *cough*
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06:25 < mbaxter> dx: Write a udp client and server mod. 
06:27 < dx> mbaxter: DEJA VU
06:27 < mbaxter> dx: Write a udp client and server mod.
06:27 < dx> mbaxter: DEJA VU
07:38 < AlphaBlend> huh
07:39 < AlphaBlend> lolz, bad network
07:54 < Drainedsoul> Do the Notchian server/client just not understand/recognize non-BMP code points?
07:56 <+SirCmpwn> non-BMP code points?
07:56 <+SirCmpwn> wat?
07:56 <+SirCmpwn> what is BMP, what is a code point
07:57 < Drainedsoul> uhh...
07:57 < Drainedsoul> a code point is a discrete character in Unicode
07:57 < Drainedsoul> the BMP is the Basic Multilingual Plane, the first 65535 code points in Unicode
07:57 <+SirCmpwn> oh, you're still trying to display § on the client
07:57 <+SirCmpwn> give up, it doesn't work
07:57 < Drainedsoul> code point is just used to disambiguate between characters and graphemes
07:58 < Drainedsoul> well, the section sign is actually in the BMP, so that's not what the question is about at all
07:59 <+SirCmpwn> Minecraft is explicitly limited to 0x0000-0xFFFF, iirc
07:59 < Drainedsoul> characters outside the BMP have a five digits U+ representation, like U+1D11E (MUSICAL SYMBOL G CLEF)
07:59 < Drainedsoul> okay, thanks
07:59 <+SirCmpwn> I don't know much about unicode beyond 0x80, though
08:10 < dx> Drainedsoul: hah what, you seem to know more about unicode than most people here, but somehow ignored the fact that UCS-2 has a fixed width of 2 bytes
08:11 <+SirCmpwn> UCS-2 doesn't have a fixed width of 2 bytes, dx
08:11 < Drainedsoul> UCS-2 is almost compatible with UTF-16 though, so if you don't see non-BMP characters and no one tries to encode surrogates, you can confuse them
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08:11 < Drainedsoul> UCS-2 is fixed width 2 bytes, UTF-16 is not
08:11 < Drainedsoul> but Java represents strings -
08:11 < Drainedsoul> - afaik -- as UTF-16, hence the question
08:11 <+SirCmpwn> bleh
08:12 < dx> SirCmpwn: you're thinking UTF-16, they are compatible, but UCS-2 is fixed
08:12 <+SirCmpwn> I'm going to stop talking about unicode now
08:12 < dx> so it's sorta deprecated for that reason
08:13 <+SirCmpwn> I've been fighting with ffmpeg all day
08:13 < dx> fun
08:13 <+SirCmpwn> it's great when it works
08:13 < eddyb> dwarf fortress kind of fun
08:13 < dx> ^
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19:38 < Not-002> [netherrack] thinkofdeath eae05c8 - Change inventories to support multiple players inventories (Fixes #20)
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22:36 < M6PIC> I have written some code, http://pastebin.com/tnG9nik1, to tell me what information is sent when a MC client tries to connect and handle some packets. When I refresh the multiplayer server select screen it prints "Server Pinged" and I don't receive any more packets. What am I doing wrong?
22:38 <+sadimusi> M6PIC: if (magic[0] != 1)
22:38 <+sadimusi> if it is one, there shouldn't be anything else
22:38 <+sadimusi> and it is
22:39 < M6PIC> It is just a check.
22:39 <+sadimusi> what are you expecting to see? The only other line that could print anything is in that if block...
22:40 < M6PIC> Any other information from the default case.
22:41 <+sadimusi> you only get the 0xfe packet
22:41 < M6PIC> Should I be getting any other packets?
22:42 <+sadimusi> no
22:42 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±7] http://git.io/jnL5SQ
22:42 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde 950ab6f - improved tscreen, added a way to debug fbo
22:42 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde ffd6b3b - move ladders/vines a bit further away from the blocks attached to
22:43 < M6PIC> The MC multiplayer screen says 'Can't Reach Server'. Can I change this?
22:43 < dav1d> M6PIC: is this D?
22:43 <+sadimusi> reply with the appropriate response
22:43 < dav1d> looks like it
22:43 < M6PIC> Yes.
22:44 < dav1d> (someone should mean, I should recognize D, with my client written in D...)
22:44 < dav1d> int[1] id; client.receive(id); looks smelly
22:44 < M6PIC> I see. I need to reply with 0xFF packet.
22:45 < dav1d> M6PIC: I recommend you std.socketstream and std.stream
22:45 < dav1d> especially useful EndianStream
22:45 < M6PIC> OK.
22:45 < dav1d> the GC.collect isn't necessary
22:46 < dav1d> const char[] ip = cast(char[])"192.168.1.108";
22:46 < dav1d> const(char)[] ip = "...".dup;
22:48 < M6PIC> I know. I was just seeing whether it made it go any faster.
22:48 < M6PIC> How do I create an array with a 2 byte short - I am very new to programming.
22:49 < dav1d> M6PIC: new short[2]
22:49 < dav1d> or: short[] s; s.length = 2;
22:49 < M6PIC> Thanks
22:50 < dav1d> well you maybe want an array on the stack
22:50 < dav1d> short[2] s;
22:52 < M6PIC> Communication Error now.
22:56 < M6PIC> What is supposed to happen after I send a 0xFF packet. I have updated the pastebin.
23:03 < M6PIC> I have got to go now.
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04:35 < Not-002> [Miners] astelyn a42b575 - Fixed otherplayer interpolation lag
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05:02 < Not-002> [Miners] astelyn bf4e640 - mc/classic: Fixed interpolation lag
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06:48 < Drainedsoul> what is the root cause of a client side "Ticking Screen" error?
06:55 <+SirCmpwn> I've never heard of such an error
06:56 <+SirCmpwn> what's the high-level cause
06:56 < Drainedsoul> "Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Ticking screen"
06:56 <+SirCmpwn> pastebin full error log, maybe
06:56 <+SirCmpwn> and tell us what you were doing around the time it happened
06:57 < Drainedsoul> https://gist.github.com/RobertLeahy/c64395ea1672224510cf
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06:58 <+SirCmpwn> <SirCmpwn> and tell us what you were doing around the time it happened
06:58 <+SirCmpwn> important
06:58 < Drainedsoul> trying to get the client to spawn.  It goes away from the "Logging in..." screen, sits there, and then does that
06:59 <+SirCmpwn> run through SMProxy, give log
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07:06 < Drainedsoul> https://gist.github.com/RobertLeahy/268f56e16551500fb750 I don't have SMProxy, but there's a protocol transcript
07:08 <+SirCmpwn> get SMProxy
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08:14 < M6PIC> What packets should be sent after 0xFE and 0xFF?
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08:23 <+SirCmpwn> nothing, M6PIC
08:23 <+SirCmpwn> the connection is terminated after 0xFF goes out the door
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14:58 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] http://git.io/nR_RUw
14:58 < Not-002> [BraLa] Dav1dde 6cc99cf - updated glamour
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16:27 < Not-002> [netherrack] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/KrBqyw
16:27 < Not-002> [netherrack] thinkofdeath 52639f1 - Update to 13w25a
16:44 < Grum> Thinkofdeath: that is not enough to support the protocol properly ;P
16:44 < Thinkofdeath> Grum: Was there any changes? 
16:44 < Grum> yeah else the protocol wouldnt change >.>
16:45 < Thinkofdeath> True :P I'll go look
16:46 < Grum> awardstats (200); byte -> int
16:46 < Thinkofdeath> Grum: Ty
16:48 < Thinkofdeath> Grum: Side note - https://gist.github.com/thinkofdeath/26c0f191fe63d7dc6aa0 Shouldn't the colours show using this?
16:49 < Grum> Thinkofdeath: euuuuh Dinnerbone!
16:49 < Not-002> [netherrack] thinkofdeath pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/fHiC5w
16:50 < Not-002> [netherrack] thinkofdeath 2097d70 - Fix snapshot support
16:58 < Not-002> [Miners] Astelyn pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/pRVdrg
16:58 < Not-002> [Miners] astelyn a64f979 - Fixed otherplayer interpolation lag mc/classic: Fixed interpolation lag mc/classic: Formatting
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18:46 < Not-002> [Miners] Astelyn pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/Svw4FA
18:46 < Not-002> [Miners] astelyn f81420d - mc/classic: heading/pitch interpolation
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19:46 < M6PIC> When I run my code, http://pastebin.com/tnG9nik1, the multiplayer screen says the server version is 1.3. What have I done wrong?
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19:57 < act4> I see this showing up in google again: http://minecraftservers.ceilingcat.ch
19:58 <+Fador> M6PIC: toUTF16("§1\061\01.5.2\0M6PIC\00\03") change this to something like toUTF16("§1\0" "61\0" "1.5.2\0" "M6PIC\0" "0\0" "3") (or whatever you can do in D to join strings)
20:00 <+Fador> M6PIC: because it will use \061, \01 etc as one escape value (if it's the same as in C) ;)
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20:09 < M6PIC> OK
20:11 < M6PIC> I changed the \0 to \x0000 and it still doesn't work.
20:14 <+Fador> are you sure it doesn't use more than 4 numbers..?
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20:16 <+Fador> toUTF16("§1\0" ~ "61\0" ~ "1.5.2\0" ~ "M6PIC\0" ~ "0\0" ~ "3") maybe it works like this in D
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20:23 < dav1d> Wtf
20:24 < dav1d> Why zero terminate?