17:19 < dx> nastyCreeper posts video about pbunny's server, md_5 asks why he's using an unpaid account, unnicked appears out of nowhere and says "that wasn't me"
17:19 < dx> MASSIVE LEGITNESS
17:19 < dx> i really don't care but it's funny
17:20 <+SirCmpwn> who's pbunny?
17:20 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: the one who got you banned
17:20 < nastyCreeper> dx: unnicked is just saying random stuff it seems
17:20 < dav1d> more or less
17:20 < dx> SirCmpwn: random guy who might be a bit insane
17:20 <+SirCmpwn> oh, that guy
17:20 < nastyCreeper> if you continue reading, you'll notice
17:21 < nastyCreeper> SirCmpwn: btw, http://nessus.lv/nessusms - what are your thoughts on that?
17:21 <+SirCmpwn> I think you need a new web designer
17:21 < nastyCreeper> i agree
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17:23 < shoghicp> SirCmpwn: oh, hi!
17:23 <+SirCmpwn> hi shoghicp, how's the python server coming
17:23 < dx> nastyCreeper: btw, what irc client are you using? just curious
17:23 <+SirCmpwn> he's using webchat
17:23 < nastyCreeper> dx: CGI:IRC atm
17:23 < nastyCreeper> problems?
17:24 < shoghicp> dropped the project, people started using the PHP one
17:24 <+SirCmpwn> :/
17:24 < dx> nastyCreeper: really? interesting
17:24 < nastyCreeper> because php is so much better than python
17:24 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: lol php :D
17:24 < nastyCreeper> dx: i am pbunny then, right?
17:24 < dx> nastyCreeper: lol
17:24 <+Ac-town> wow
17:24 < SinZ> no, you are pbunny anyway
17:24 <+Ac-town> gg php
17:24 < dx> nastyCreeper: if you say so...
17:25 < nastyCreeper> thanks to all your 'you-are-pbunny' talks, i even start believing in that myself
17:26 < shoghicp> SinZ: got the server working fluidly on a Raspberry Pi
17:26 < shoghicp> fuu
17:26 < shoghicp> [Tab]
17:26 < shoghicp> SirCmpwn: ^ that was for you
17:27 <+SirCmpwn> ...in PHP
17:27 < shoghicp> with Multiworlds, RCON, and Query :D
17:27 < shoghicp> and all Pure-PHP xD
17:28 < shoghicp> people ask if they can create plugins for PHP in Java
17:28 < SinZ> ...
17:28 < SinZ> PHP plugins are the best, but reloading them is messy
17:29 <+SirCmpwn> apparently Minecraft doesn't work if you use an IME daemon on linux
17:29 < shoghicp> SinZ: 100% true
17:29 < shoghicp> at least they can restart the server easily xD
17:29 <+Ac-town> you should feel bad for a php server
17:30 <+SirCmpwn> did you guys see my PartyCraft video, by the way?
17:30 < dav1d> yes!
17:30 < dav1d> I think someone even linked it in here
17:30 <+SirCmpwn> http://youtu.be/TVd8HKQkL30
17:30 < shoghicp> Ac-town:  people use it ;)
17:30 < dx> SirCmpwn: the client? i use IME and it works while it's disabled, gets weird results if it's enabled, but if you can imagine what you're typing it works
17:30 < shoghicp> SirCmpwn: I was going to ask for the link
17:31 <+Ac-town> people also use drupal and wordpress
17:31 <+Ac-town> and thats bad
17:31 <+SirCmpwn> dx: I use anthy and I can't give the vanilla client any key presses
17:31 <+SirCmpwn> I wrote a script to disable it before launching minecraft, though
17:31 < dav1d> now I forgot what I wanted to do
17:31 < dx> SirCmpwn: i just disable it with ctrl-space. if it's enabled it only works with the chat box, and only displays characters after you press enter
17:32 < dx> which means it's useless for any complex input
17:32 <+SirCmpwn> dx: nope, doesn't work
17:32 < dx> hm, i haven't tried in a while, let me check
17:32 < jast> Ac-town: you can write decent software in PHP, too
17:32 < jast> though why anyone would want to... beats me
17:32 < dx> ^
17:34 < dx> SirCmpwn: http://dump.dequis.org/jPOet.png
17:34 <+SirCmpwn> dx: weird, I can't type anything while the daemon is running
17:35 < dx> SirCmpwn: works differently than the last time i tried though. shows the input box, but only appends a single character every time i use it
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17:35 < dx> it must be a pain in the ass to use if you have to write like this always
17:35 <+SirCmpwn> yeah
17:35 < dx> SirCmpwn: uim or scim? scim is pretty much dead
17:36 <+SirCmpwn> scim
17:36 <+SirCmpwn> works fine, though, so I don't really care
17:36 < dx> switching to uim got a bunch of issues fixed for me
17:38 < dx> also i think i've been running this minecraft server in localhost for days and haven't noticed
17:39 <+SirCmpwn> I'd like to set up a script to grab and build the latest partycraft, then spin up a server
17:39 <+SirCmpwn> but I've been waiting until this refactoring I'm in the middle of is done, since it has a lot of breaking changes
17:39 < dx> yep, ps aux says i started it four days ago
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18:11 < SuinDraw> ps aux? ps uax
18:11 < dx> wat
18:18 < dav1d> dammit, y u segfault
18:31 < barneygale> for anyone who missed it: https://gist.github.com/barneygale/5705361 <-- petition to ban nessus (pbunny's server) devs from the chan
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19:13 < AnotherOne> barneygale is evil
19:13 < balrog> lol they blame java for the issues with official MC
19:14 < dav1d> blaming java always works
19:14 < AnotherOne> because java is bad
19:17 < AnotherOne> am i wrong?
19:17 < dav1d> first time I really use regex & replace in kdevelop, it works!
19:17 < dav1d> yes, but whatever
19:17 < Yoshi2> you are using regex for the first time and it works? I'm suprised
19:17 < AnotherOne> heh, why?
19:18 < dav1d> Yoshi2: no, the regex replace, I thought it has some strange syntax like eclipse
19:18 < Yoshi2> oh
19:18 < dav1d> simple_block_\(Side.\w+,\s.*\), o/
19:18 < Yoshi2> alright then
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20:51 < dx> 15:48 [FreeNode] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- 1 failed login since last login.
20:51 < dx> 15:48 [FreeNode] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last failed attempt from: nastyCreeper!~asd@static-71-174-73-11.bstnma.fios.verizon.net on May 28 09:26:06 2013.
20:51 < dx> lol
20:53 < Yoshi2> nope, that does not seem to be suspicious at all
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21:46 < dav1d> wohoo, a dynamic texture atlas! http://i.imgur.com/mDJSUgR.jpg
21:46 < dav1d> it workz!
21:47 < Yoshi2> dav1d: is this dynamic texture atlas more dynamic than the texture atlas from yesterday?
21:47 < dexter0> nice
21:48 < dav1d> Yoshi2: nope same atlas, but you see the diamant ore?
21:48 < dav1d> (also redstone, gold block etc.)
21:48 < dav1d> they have the correct textures now
21:48 < dav1d> yesterday, it was only the new atlas (terrain.png generated) but old, hardcoded values
21:49 < dav1d> now all "simple blocks"
21:49 < dav1d> have the correct texture
21:49 < Yoshi2> ah, I see
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00:27 < breezeyboy> How would I edit packet 9001
00:28 <+SirCmpwn> that's a joke, right
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00:29 < breezeyboy> No, I want to trick the client into thinking the server is a different version from what it really is
00:29 <+SirCmpwn> there is no packet 9001
00:30 <+SirCmpwn> they're 8 bit unsigned integers, IDs range from 0-255 (0x00-0xFF)
00:30 < breezeyboy> The version of the server is a string
00:30 <+SirCmpwn> are you talking about packet 0xFE, which is followed by an 0xFF?
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00:34 < breezeyboy> Think so
00:34 <+SirCmpwn> breezeyboy: in simpler terms, are you talking about the exchange that happens at the server list string, to get the MOTD and active players and such
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00:36 < breezeyboy> Yes, I want to have clients from 1.5.1 join 1.5.2 server, so I need to tell the client the serv version is 1.5.1
00:36 <+SirCmpwn> breezeyboy: well, yes, it's a string, so just send a different value. However, you should note that 1.5.2 players will not be able to join
00:37 < breezeyboy> I know, But how would I send it?
00:37 <+SirCmpwn> same way you send every other packet? Do you already have code that responds to pings?
00:38 < breezeyboy> Yes
00:38 <+SirCmpwn> so just modify your ping response accordingly
00:38 <+SirCmpwn> 1.5.1 is protocol version 60, afaik
00:39 <+SirCmpwn> Dinnerbone: I just realized that the ping changes prevent servers from supporting multiple protocol versions, since clients will refuse to join them if the protocol version is different. Maybe that do-nothing field in 0xFE could become the client's protocol version?
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01:05 < dx> SirCmpwn: support of multiple protocol versions in server list has been broken a few times in the past
01:05 < dx> SirCmpwn: it's safe to say that they do not care
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01:32 <+SirCmpwn> dx: I can dream, can't I
01:33 < dav1d> wohooo
01:33 < dav1d> only a pistons, torches and a single redstone dot are broken
01:33 <+SirCmpwn> dav1d: you ready to do it all over again? Because I'm pretty sure they're changing all that for 1.6
01:33 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: that's ok
01:34 < dav1d> form hardcoded to dynamic
01:34 < dav1d> it should be really easy now
01:34 <+SirCmpwn> cool
01:34 < dav1d> but I still have no clue why torches are broken (and piston heads)
01:34 < dx> SirCmpwn: sorry bro, no dreams allowed here
01:35 < dx> SirCmpwn: only json
01:35 <+SirCmpwn> oh god, don't even get me started on the json
01:36 < dx> heh
01:36 < dav1d> ~4k diff -.-
01:36 < dav1d> yay notifico is dead
01:36 < dx> long live notifico
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01:38 <+SirCmpwn> https://gist.github.com/Dinnerbone/5662824
01:38 <+SirCmpwn> dav1d: 
01:38 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: I've already seen it
01:39 < dav1d> oh
01:39 < dav1d> no
01:39 < dav1d> I thought it's the json chat
01:39 < dav1d> thanks
01:39 < dx> this usage of json actually makes sense
01:40 <+SirCmpwn> agreed
01:40 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: that makes it easier from what I can see
01:40 < dav1d> the texture pack format stays the same only with more metadata
01:42 < dx> dav1d: not sure about that, it says "Not yet implemented as of time of writing"
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01:43 < dav1d> dx: "//comment": "This block can go on any texture and it'll control how that is rendered out. Not yet implemented as of time of writing.",
01:43 < dav1d> dx: this would be the most retarded thing ever
01:43 < dx> dav1d: hm?
01:43 < dav1d> if
01:43 < dav1d> "clamp": false
01:43 < dav1d> if clamp acutally means the opengl texture parameter, then this is simply retarded
01:43 < dx> no idea about opengl here
01:44 <+SirCmpwn> dav1d: elaborate
01:44 < dav1d> it would mean every block gets his own texture, which is so imperformant
01:44 < dx> see, i have so little idea about opengl that i thought that was how everything worked
01:44 <+SirCmpwn> well, I think they're already doing that
01:45 < dav1d> also, you would need to render either all blocks of the same type at once or send the blockid to the shader then to choose the correct texture with a fucking long if..else
01:45 <+SirCmpwn> unless they throw all the separate textures into one at runtime
01:45 < dav1d> no they build an "atlas"
01:45 < dexter0> they could group the ons that don't require GL_CLAMP
01:45 < dav1d> which merges all the mini textures into one big
01:45 < dav1d> (just what I implemented)
01:45 < dav1d> dexter0: there are more attributes
01:45 < dexter0> ofc
01:46 < dav1d> that is a dumb idea
01:46 < dav1d> especially for minecraft
01:46 < dav1d> where you don't need that
01:46 < dav1d> but hey, mojang...
01:47 < dav1d> dexter0: also, GL_CLAMP would only work on a single texture
01:48 <+SirCmpwn> I had hoped these things would improve when bukkit got hired
01:48 < dexter0> right, that's why I said the ones that *don't* require it.
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01:49 < dav1d> dexter0: oh didn't see that
01:50 < dav1d> dexter0: also why would you require GL_CLAMP?
01:50 < dav1d> I can not think of a reason
01:50 < dexter0> neither can I
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01:51 < dav1d> and his epic fail
01:51 < dexter0> it may be just an example
01:51 < dexter0> not going to make it into the final spec
01:51 <+SirCmpwn> JSON chat is a lot worse, you know
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01:53 < dav1d> SirCmpwn: not really, if they really do it like that (worst case = what I said), then playing COD on a 8bit processor will be faster
01:54 < dav1d> 0.5 core
01:54 < dexter0> Well, they might allow you to define a custom shader for each block which would be equally as bad if abused.
01:54 <+SirCmpwn> well, who gives a shit about the vanilla client
01:54 <+SirCmpwn> JSON chat is bad for all software
01:54 < dav1d> dexter0: shader per block o.O
01:55 < dexter0> well, per block type :P
01:55 < dav1d> holy fuck
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01:56 <+SirCmpwn> I wish they'd pay more attention to this community, Minecraft would be better for it :/
01:57 < dav1d> I mean, I am no opengl specialist, but even I know that this is a really really bad idea
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02:43 < barneygale> SirCmpwn: what's the issue with json chat?
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03:03 <+SirCmpwn> barneygale: I've voiced my concerns in Dinnerbone's gist
03:03 < barneygale> I shall read
03:09 <+SirCmpwn> maybe I should make a little PoC of how it should be done
03:10 <+SirCmpwn> using the client-specified language
03:10 <+SirCmpwn> and translating on the server side
03:26 < barneygale> json seems like a reasonable approach to me
03:27 < barneygale> I largely agree with Dinnerbone's reply to your post
03:27 <+SirCmpwn> https://gist.github.com/SirCmpwn/c5b3cd93cd424f17edf4
03:28 < barneygale> this also seems pretty reasonable
03:30 < barneygale> Though the advantages you state are pretty minor
03:30 < barneygale> e.g. network load
03:30 <+SirCmpwn> >No distribution of proprietary lang files is required
03:30 <+SirCmpwn> >Cheap message encoding/decoding
03:30 <+SirCmpwn> these are the big ones
03:30 <+SirCmpwn> proprietary lang file distribution explains itself
03:31 <+SirCmpwn> as for encoding/decoding, using JSON for this will probably increase the time spent on chat by an order of magnitude or two
03:31 <+SirCmpwn> especially on the client
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04:21 < dx> SirCmpwn: they want to be able to have nested translations
04:22 < dx> SirCmpwn: such as "give item" which is "X gave item Y to Z" where Y is a translatable item name
04:22 < dx> SirCmpwn: they also think that having the server do string formatting differently for every client is too expensive. no comment on that,
04:26 <+SirCmpwn> and JSON encoding things like that is... less expensive?
04:29 < dx> no comment.
04:30 < dx> SirCmpwn: they also wanted to resolve the bugs of the § based formatting
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04:30 < dx> SirCmpwn: for which i said this is a completely overkill solution
04:30 <+SirCmpwn> I thought there was only one - when it's the last character of a string
04:30 <+SirCmpwn> which is not really that difficult to deal with
04:30 <+SirCmpwn> I thought it was already dealt with, in fact
04:30 < barneygale> are language packs released under a certain license atm?
04:31 <+SirCmpwn> barneygale: proprietary, I believe
04:31 < dx> barneygale: no, it's "we don't care about licenses"
04:31 < dx> or "grey area" like they like to say
04:31 <+SirCmpwn> in other words, assume proprietary
04:31 < barneygale> uhg
04:31 < barneygale> that's scarcely better than proprietary
04:32 < dx> it's like the situation with modding
04:32 < enchilado> Hi SirCmpwn o/
04:32 < dx> everything is technically illegal
04:32 <+SirCmpwn> possible solution: create alternate lang files based on the same keys
04:32 <+SirCmpwn> but that's pretty damn grey, and there aren't a lot of different way to say "player has joined the server"
04:32 <+SirCmpwn> enchilado: hi
04:34 < dx> >Yes, § had issues, the main ones that affected me were §r and §f behaving the same way (white resets all formatting), bold/italic/etc not cancelling each other, and the client freaking out if the formatting codes were too complex then deciding to apply everything from the start of the beginning of the line
04:34 < dx> SirCmpwn: ^
04:34 <+SirCmpwn> why not use IRC codes
04:34 <+SirCmpwn> (joke)
04:34 < dx> lol
04:34 < Exio> mIRC you mean
04:34 < dx> § is a lot like irc codes
04:34 <+SirCmpwn> yeah, yeah
04:34 < dx> but shittier
04:35 <+SirCmpwn> I'd say mIRC codes are shittier
04:35 <+SirCmpwn> mIRC formatting codes are pretty damn shitty
04:35 < dx> these cancel each other
04:35 < dx> i wish i had that with §
04:36 < dx> again
04:36 < dx> my point was, if they cared about this stuff, it wouldn't be hard to fix it
04:37 < dx> they hate §
04:37 < dx> they hate NBT too
04:37 < dx> so json is the perfect solution
04:37 <+SirCmpwn> actually, replacing NBT with JSON would make me happy
04:37 < dx> except that NBT is used in a bunch of places in the protocol
04:38 < dx> that's a lot of packets that become ten times bigger
04:38 <+SirCmpwn> yeah, I'd pull it from the protocol, too
04:38 <+SirCmpwn> not really, minified JSON is only slightly larger than NBT
04:39 < dx> it's also awful for binary data
04:39 < dx> i think the standard solution is to base64 stuff lol
04:39 <+SirCmpwn> yeah, binary data would be terrible with it
04:39 <+SirCmpwn> but there isn't much of that in the NBT that goes over the wire
04:40 <+SirCmpwn> what is NBT used for besides enchantments
04:47 < dx> SirCmpwn: any slot data actually, so, anything with items, opened windows, etc
04:48 <+SirCmpwn> yeah, but it's only actually included for enchanted items
04:49 < dx> also tile entity updates
04:50 < dx> no idea what that's used for though
04:50 <+SirCmpwn> mob spawners
04:50 < dx> just that?
04:51 <+SirCmpwn> maybe a little more, but that's the only thing I know it's used for
04:51 < dx> hmmk
04:51 < barneygale> NBT is used for level data, player data, etc
04:52 <+SirCmpwn> that doesn't go over the wire, barneygale
04:52 < dx> ye
04:52 < barneygale> I know that. JSON makes sense for enchantment data, I agree
04:52 <+SirCmpwn> as for on-disk, I like the idea of unminified JSON for player info, levels, etc
04:53 <+SirCmpwn> easier for non-savvy users to modify
04:53 < barneygale> map data? JSON isn't particularly compact for that
04:53 < dx> maybe for the metadata
04:54 < dx> not the data itself
04:54 < ShaRose> just player info and that is fine
04:54 <+SirCmpwn> maybe keep NBT for chunks
04:54 < ShaRose> since that doesn't matter for size
04:54 <+SirCmpwn> that's about the only thing that it needs to be compact for
04:54 < dx> or binary, at least
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07:32 < AlphaModder> anyone know what packet is sent when a client hits a block?
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07:53 <+SirCmpwn> AlphaModder: yup
07:53 <+SirCmpwn> AlphaModder: 0xE, informally called the "player digging" packet
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07:54 < AlphaModder> ah ok
07:54 <+SirCmpwn> AlphaModder: here's a C# implementation: https://github.com/SirCmpwn/Craft.Net/blob/master/Craft.Net/Packets.cs#L490
07:54 <+SirCmpwn> AlphaModder: and here's a C# server handling that packet: https://github.com/SirCmpwn/Craft.Net/blob/refactoring/source/Craft.Net.Server/Handlers/InteractionHandlers.cs#L19
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17:24 < Mathuin> I went looking at the latest source to pymclevel, and it has what looks like the beginnings of biome support.  Nothing that lets me set the biome at any particular point, but it will at least preserve biome data over moves..
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17:24 < Mathuin> Any idea if/when it'll get the ability to set the biome at any particular column on the map?
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17:27 <+SirCmpwn> Mathuin: now
17:27 <+SirCmpwn> oh, sorry, pymclevel
17:28 <+SirCmpwn> well, it's pretty simple, you can probably add support for it yourself
17:28 < Mathuin> I could probably rewrite pymclevel to do only what I need it to do as well.  I just wondered if _someone else_ was going to do it first. :-)
17:29 < Mathuin> I wonder if TkTech's project has reached that point.  Hmm.
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17:29 <+SirCmpwn> if you don't insist on python, you can do it with Craft.Net
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17:29 <+SirCmpwn> but you probably insist on python
17:30 < Mathuin> I indeed probably do.
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17:35 < Mathuin> Ah, PyNBT is that irritatingly seductive thing: a library that focuses on the part I really don't want to do, which lets me do the thing I've been trying to avoid for a long time.
17:35 < Mathuin> I guess I know what I'm doing this summer.
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20:16 < dav1d> dexter0: http://i.imgur.com/tBZkhys.jpg any ideas why the mipmaps seems to remove the alpha from the texture?
20:18 < Calinou> still that ugly thingy? 8D
20:18 < Yoshi2> it is looking much better now than it did before
20:19 < dexter0> nothing comes immediately to mind
20:19 < dav1d> Yoshi2: hehe, I fixed most of the textures now
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20:19 < dav1d> dexter0: I have no idea why the mimpas cancel out the alpha :(
20:20 < dexter0> granted I'm much further behind you in my construction of an MC 3d engine.  I may not be the best resource atm :(
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20:46 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2017 7 files : Cleanup, commenting, and optimization in MapRenderer and IsoCat.
20:46 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2018 2 files : Fixed handling of names containing periods in /Info wildcard search
20:46 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2019 2 files : MapRenderer now defaults to having same number of threads as your logical CPU count or number of inputs, whichever is lower.
20:46 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2020 2 files : ConfigGUI/AddWorldPopup: Hooked up BlockDB settings dropdown, and filled the "import settings" menu with existing worlds.
20:46 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2021 2 files : ConfigGUI/AddWorldPopup: Hooked up "visibility" dropdown
20:46 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2022 4 files : Added MapGenUtil and MapGenGuiUtil classes, to track registered IMapGenerators and IMapGeneratorGuiProviders.
20:46 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2023 3 files : Code cleanup in AddWorldPopup, IMapGeneratorParameters, and JetBrains.Annotations
20:46 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2024 2 files : Tweaks to FloatingIslandMapGen
20:47 < Not-003> [netherrack] thinkofdeath pushed 5 commits to master [+0/-0/±10] http://git.io/XXQscg
20:48 < Not-003> [netherrack] thinkofdeath dadb095 - Switched util.Stack to a linked list
20:48 < Not-003> [netherrack] thinkofdeath f3374b2 - Sky lighting now works. On old chunks this works fine but on newly generated chunks it fails to generate the correct lighting
20:48 < Not-003> [netherrack] thinkofdeath ecdd6c3 - Fix lighting on new chunks
20:48 < Not-003> [netherrack] thinkofdeath 50dbd44 - Re-enable chunk saving
20:48 < Not-003> [netherrack] thinkofdeath 36ae99d - Removed debug lighting code
20:48 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2025 14 files : Renamed PlayerSearchOptions to SearchOptions, and ReturnSelfIfNoOthersMatched to ReturnSelfIfNoMatches. Less verbose!
20:50 < Not-003> [BraLa] Dav1dde pushed 6 commits to master [+0/-0/±21] http://git.io/BqnxQA
20:50 < Not-003> [BraLa] Dav1dde 02d446f - also move ProjTextureSlice to terrain/atlas
20:50 < Not-003> [BraLa] Dav1dde 12def54 - don't pass blocks (4byte) by reference
20:50 < Not-003> [BraLa] Dav1dde 3dc6e3b - use the new atlas (makes the world look funny!)
20:50 < Not-003> [BraLa] Dav1dde 5938c17 - make code a bit more readable
20:50 < Not-003> [BraLa] Dav1dde 1c48ba4 - "simple blocks" have correct textures now
20:50 < Not-003> [BraLa] Dav1dde 6c6e77f - textures are 90% accurate!?
20:50 < Not-003> [BraLa] Dav1dde pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] http://git.io/FU-weQ
20:50 < Not-003> [BraLa] Dav1dde b194fb1 - fix bookshelves
20:51 < Not-003> [fCraft] fragmer * r2026 2 files : Fixed /Info revealing hidden players' online status in some cases (thanks Intertoothh and recon)
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21:13 < dav1d> spam!
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21:13 < dav1d> Not-003: hi?
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21:16 < Thinkofdeath> dav1d: I think you upset him
21:17 < dav1d> Thinkofdeath: didnt like my commits, I guess
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21:20 <+SirCmpwn> I wonder if Craft.Net still gets shown here
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21:20 <+SirCmpwn> must have been fun whenever I merged branches
21:21 < Thinkofdeath> I have seen it pop up before
21:21 < Thinkofdeath> And yes it was fun when you merged (commits, commits everywhere)
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21:44 < dav1d> clonejo1: https://github.com/Dav1dde/BraLa/commits/master :D
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22:18 <+clonejo> dav1d: testing ongoing…
22:18 < dav1d> clonejo: you need a ~/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar or use --texture-pack or set it in your config
22:18 <+clonejo> ok
22:19 <+clonejo> dav1d: glwtf doesn't compile
22:20 < dav1d> clonejo: yep dmd 2.062 needed :P
22:20 < dav1d> pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
22:20 <+clonejo> thx
22:20 < dav1d> somewhere there should be the old dmd
22:20 <+clonejo> yep
22:22 <+clonejo> dav1d: it's all blue
22:23 < dav1d> then the tessellation threads crashed, yay
22:23 <+clonejo> wait a sec…
22:23 < dav1d> in the log there should be something
22:23 < dav1d> I should make the errors not critical
22:24 < dav1d> or let brala completly crash
22:24 <+clonejo> I might have tho check the right MC version out of my ~/.minecraft/bin git repo
22:24 <+clonejo> *to
22:25 < dav1d> clonejo: just get a texture pack :)
22:25 < dav1d> (smart didnt think of having ~/.minecraft a git repo)
22:25 < dav1d> git checkout 146optifine :D
22:26 <+clonejo> :3
22:26 <+clonejo> not .minecraft/ but .minecraft/bin
22:27 <+SirCmpwn> that's awesome
22:27 <+SirCmpwn> a .minecraft git repo
22:27 <+SirCmpwn> going to do that
22:27 <+clonejo> This way I can go back to old MC versions (which are compatible to mc-erl :P) or switch mod installs
22:27 < dx> nice
22:28 < dx> is there any way to do it with uncompressed jars instead?
22:28 <+SirCmpwn> I think so
22:28 < dx> you could pretend to be able to apply mods like patches that way
22:28 <+SirCmpwn> you could probably extract them and invoke minecraft with the classpath set, with a custom launcher
22:29 < dx> oh, classpath, right
22:29 <+SirCmpwn> SuperLauncher uses classpath to install mods without changing the jars
22:30 < dx> whoa, just uncompressing minecraft.jar to a directory called minecraft.jar seemed to work
22:30 <+SirCmpwn> that's cool
22:31 < dx> old vanilla launcher, i guess 
22:31 < dx> err how did i press enter there. *i guess it uses classpath for that exact filename
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01:57 < moejoe> hi all
01:57 < moejoe> nickelpro around?
01:58 <+sadimusi> evening moejoe 
01:59 <+sadimusi> any questions someone else than nickelpro could answer?
02:02 < moejoe> hey, thx.
02:02 < moejoe> i'm checking out his spock (python minecraft client) atm
02:02 < moejoe> having some issues getting it up and running but thats prbly just me ...
02:05 <+sadimusi> never saw spock mentioned here before
02:05 <+sadimusi> it looks pretty nice
02:06 <+sadimusi> what isn't working? maybe I can help
02:08 < moejoe> very kind of you. but right now i think i have to fix some dependencies on my machine
02:09 < moejoe> for example it can't find Crypto even though I have it installed (via pip)
02:09 <+sadimusi> I wonder why he didn't include them in the setup.py
02:10 <+sadimusi> maybe you have multiple versions of python installed
02:11 <+sadimusi> and if you're on windows you probably can't install pycrypto with pip at all
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02:12 < moejoe> I use osx ... it seemed to work before but i kind of messed things up when i incidenally installed things as root ;)
02:13 <+sadimusi> :)
02:14 < moejoe> but you could help me with another question:
02:14 < moejoe> my task is to build an interface in between minecraft and an experimental ai
02:15 < moejoe> and i'm looking into custom minecraft clients right now
02:15 < moejoe> something in python (like spock) would be best as the ai is written in python
02:16 < moejoe> the most sophisticated client i found so far was mineflayer (node.js)
02:16 <+sadimusi> yeah, mineflayer is probably the best out there
02:16 <+SirCmpwn> BraLa is also pretty advanced
02:16 < moejoe> do you know of any other good (bot-) clients?
02:16 <+SirCmpwn> Craft.Net supports the entire protocol and has good support for worlds and such
02:16 <+SirCmpwn> BraLa isn't scriptable, but it's got the best graphics
02:17 <+SirCmpwn> I think he has all the textures mapped right and fancy models for things like brewing stands
02:17 <+sadimusi> I assume the graphics don't matter for a bot
02:18 <+SirCmpwn> well, just listing all the alternatives
02:18 <+sadimusi> spock looks nice but also very raw, you have to work directly with the protocol
02:18 <+SirCmpwn> I think that's every client that supports 1.5.x
02:19 < moejoe> mineflayer supports 1.5.x and has lots of abstraction
02:20 <+SirCmpwn> superjoe: do you still support mineflayer
02:20 < moejoe> i'm working fulltime on this project. so i might use spock as a foundation and port mineflayer.
02:21 < moejoe> can't really estimate the amount of work yet though as i'm new to python
02:21 <+sadimusi> it looks like there's a lot of my code in spock :)
02:21 <+SirCmpwn> Minecraft's pretty complicated, you should be comfortable in your language of choice before tackling minecraft-related projects
02:22 < moejoe> thx for the advise
02:22 < moejoe> sadimusi: what did you work on?
02:22 <+sadimusi> a proxy: https://github.com/sadimusi/mc3p
02:24 < moejoe> sweet
02:24 < moejoe> what is nickelpro using it for in spock?
02:24 <+sadimusi> just parts of the encryption and authentication
02:24 <+SirCmpwn> there tends to be a lot of code pulled into various projects from the "main" projects in each language
02:25 <+sadimusi> for example https://github.com/nickelpro/spock/blob/master/spock/utils.py#L13 vs https://github.com/sadimusi/mc3p/blob/master/mc3p/authentication.py#L85