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07:38 < OGK> Hi Q I didn't see answered in the wiki
07:38 < OGK> minecraft is a TCP protocol?
07:40 < OGK> The stream encryption inclines me towards "yes" but it seems strange for a game protocol.
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07:40 < AndrewPH|Alt> OGK: Minecraft uses TCP, yes.
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07:43 < OGK> thx. do you think I'd have fun writing a minecraft server in node.js? how much is handled by the client?
07:44 < SinZ> its been done
07:45 < OGK> Yeah, I'm not expecting to write anything as comprehensive as what's already out there...just wanna play with the protocol.
07:45 < OGK> and exercise my node skills. ;)
07:45 < SinZ> after you get passed the damn encryption, its fun
07:46 < OGK> what does a server attempting to be a stock server replacement have to implement?
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10:41 < edk> sorry
10:41 < edk> my client is a bit more retarded than i thought it was
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11:50 < OGK> yep, writing a node.js minecraft server is going to be difficult! :o
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16:53 < Stormx2> Hey folks. What are the "best" python NBT implementation around at the moment? I wrote my own a year ago but it's probably not as nice as some others' work.
17:07 < SinZ> TkTechs most likely
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17:23 <+Prf_Jakob> TkTech: ^
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17:52 < TkTech> Stormx2: There's twoolies (which is more popular) and mine (which has nothing unique about it).
17:52 < TkTech> I wrote mine to be minimal and as a reference for when I was writing the NBT wiki page.
17:53 < TkTech> https://github.com/twoolie/NBT & https://github.com/TkTech/PyNBT
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01:50 < Not-001> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn 701b107 - Define Craft.Net.Utilities
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02:19 < Not-001> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn 54acd4a - Reorganizing unit tests
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04:15 < x56> ##windowsphone
04:15 < x56> whoops...
04:38 < TkTech> Wait a minute, when was the last time the wiki.vg bot said anything in here...
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04:44 < TkTech> Huh, nope still working. Just no edits.
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05:05 < Not-001> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn 80bf386 - Further work on adding back Level functionality, now supports unlimited worlds
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09:28 < Not-001> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn 78e3a90 - Removing majority of code in other classes, will be rewritten
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10:47 < Sanky> Hey, so what's up with Minecraft Pocket edition?  Can you connect to arbitrary servers?
10:50 <+md_5|away> Um
10:50 <+md_5|away> Don't think so y err t
10:50 <+md_5|away> Yet
10:50 < Sanky> what's it for then ~_~
10:50 < Sanky> wake me up when yes :p
10:51 <+md_5|away> WiFi and Bluetooth servers
10:51 < Sanky> no internet servers?  lame
10:52 < Sanky> thanks for the info though
10:52 < SinZ> it would rape peoples puny bandwidth on mobiles
10:53 <+md_5|away> It's UDP and efficient afaik
10:53 < Sanky> that's not an excuse
10:53 < SinZ> and they are working on implementing minecraft realms to pocket iirc
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10:54 < Sanky> I just want to connect to my server from my phone
10:54 < Sanky> why is that so hard
10:55 < SinZ> simple minecraft pocket edition != minecraft PC edition
10:56 < Sanky> and apparently xbox is totally different too?? 
10:56 < Sanky> why aren't they working off a single codebase ?_?
10:56 < SinZ> because Mobile and xbox hate java
10:56 < SinZ> and pc edition was made in java
10:56 < Sanky> game logic should be shared
10:57 < SinZ> well, xbox was made by a different company
10:57 <+md_5|away> I agree
10:57 < Sanky> yes and it's getting the same updates regular minecraft is, just a couple months behind.  so dumb
10:57 < SinZ> and pocket wanted to change things up, as mobile was designed to have a different play feel
10:57 <+md_5|away> Like doodle jump for stupid
10:57 <+md_5|away> Droid
10:57 < Sanky> also fine, they're different
10:57 <+md_5|away> Has libdoodle.so
10:57 < Sanky> still could write a proxy between pocket client and regular server
10:58 < SinZ> proxy between udp and tcp, fun
10:58 < Sanky> that's the least of my concerns
10:58 <+md_5|away> When they can actually connect to external IPS I plan to add to my proxy
10:58 <+md_5|away> Bungeecord
10:59 < Sanky> what's it proxy
10:59 < SinZ> with a weird github name
10:59 < SinZ> Sanky: ...minecraft
10:59 < Sanky> oh servers huh
11:00 < SinZ> md_5|away: support minecraft 2.0 on bungeecord yet?
11:00 < Sanky> well, a pocket client <> regular server is definitely on my todo list
11:01 <+md_5|away> On holiday
11:01 <+md_5|away> Barely know what 2.0 is
11:01 <+ammar2> SinZ: "(SinZ) because Mobile and xbox hate java" meet android
11:01 <+ammar2> it loves java
11:01 < SinZ> mobile is on iOS too
11:01 <+ammar2> pftt, I know
11:02 < SinZ> and android hates java applets, which is what minecraft is actually on
11:02 <+ammar2> lolwat
11:02 <+ammar2> minecraft isn't a java applet
11:02 < SinZ> yes it is
11:02 <+ammar2> the full downloadable version that is
11:02 < SinZ> the launcher makes a frame to put the applet on
11:02 <+md_5|away> Its not an applet
11:03 < Sanky> pretty sure that's not how it works
11:03  * SinZ dives into logs
11:03 < Sanky> I mean sure a launcher makes a frame but applet doesn't mean anything special
11:09 < SinZ> the launchers code shows creating the applet from the class net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet
11:18 <+md_5|away> That doesn't mean it's an applet
11:19 <+ammar2> the applet itself is merely a wrapper to show the actual window
11:20 <+ammar2> could just as easily be in swing or whatever
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13:25 < Sanky> are there any minecraft clones for android with multiplayer...
13:31 < dav1d> minecraft pocket edition
13:32 < Sanky> real multiplayer, with static servers
13:33 < SinZ> last I checked, this was #mcdevs and not #android
13:34 < Sanky> last time I checked custom/open clients fell under what #tmdevs discussed
13:34 < Sanky> (then again, the last time I checked was over a year ago.)
13:35 < SinZ> I don't think there are anyone that talk of minecraft clones for mobile
13:35 < SinZ> there are clients/servers that support pocket edition protocol though
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13:40 < SinZ> ohai
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16:49 < Not-001> [fCraft] fragmer * r1945 3 files : fCraft no longer tries to use "mono-sgen" binary, now just using "mono" and assuming that runtime is properly configured. (backport) UpdateInstaller is now more flexible with --restart parameter: It's no longer required to be a .NET binary, now it can be anything that a console could execute. (backport) 
16:52 < Not-001> [fCraft] fragmer * r1946 2 files : Dropped Mono 2.6 support. Fixed /wload showing incorrect map file names when prompting to replace files (thanks Smokeybacon) 
16:52 < cathode> damn someone's been busy...
17:02 < SinZ> very busy for classic server software
17:04 < shoghicp> You won't want have PocketMine-MP commits here ;)
17:04 < shoghicp> uh, the MCPE livestream is going to start
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22:58 < Not-001> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn 90aada9 - Added NBT_List serialization
23:15 < Not-001> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn pushed 1 commit to refactoring [+1/-0/±4] http://git.io/wKTq0A
23:15 < Not-001> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn 8be1d3a - Added INbtSerializable for custom serialization
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23:31 < Not-001> [Craft.Net] SirCmpwn 5fa9838 - Added NBT serialization bindings to Chunks and Sections
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18:57 < toqueteos> guys are links of packets 0x29 and 0x2A ok on wiki.vg/Protocol?
18:57 < toqueteos> it seems both should point to the same link for the Effect Id info link
19:02 < Thinkofdeath> toqueteos: Both should point to the mcwiki table by the looks of it
19:02 < toqueteos> yep, that's it
19:03 < toqueteos> but i'm not minecraft protocol expert so had to ask here
19:03 < toqueteos> those two packets handle potion effects, right? nothing else
19:03 < Thinkofdeath> yep
19:03 < SinZ> 29 and 2A, aye..
19:05 < Thinkofdeath> Changed it
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19:18 < toqueteos> thanks Thinkofdeath!
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04:15 <+ammar2> #bukkitdev, irc.esper.net
04:15 < dreadiscool> I'm banned off there for reasons I don't know :3
04:16 < dreadiscool> Not really, I got into an argument with mbaxter
04:16 < dreadiscool> Could someone point me in the right direction?
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10:20 < mulka> hi
10:20 < TkTech> mulka: No.
10:20 < mulka> maybe?
10:20 < TkTech> There have been a few attempts, nothing functional.
10:20 < mulka> haha... you know my question already
10:39 < mulka> how about just a web viewer for minecraft worlds?
10:47 < masterm> mulka: execuse my curiosity: what is the question? ;)
10:49 < mulka> has anyone started on an HTML5 client for minecraft
10:50 <+Fador> http://voxeljs.com
10:50 < mulka> voxeljs looks cool, but it doesn't connect to a minecraft server, does it?
10:50 < mulka> or read minecraft world files?
10:50 <+Fador> I don't think so ;)
10:53 < eddyb> mulka: I tried like two years ago, I didn't have the time to keep working on it
10:53 < eddyb> and I wanted to have lots of features, I was dreaming instead of working on it :(
10:55 < TkTech> Small world, #voxel.js uses Notifico.
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